1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: On today's show, Lillly Brown says she was betrayed by 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Nicki Westcott and Lucy Jackson. Molly May opens up about 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: her low sex drive and you won't believe who. Shanni 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: Grimman sent a pr package to Hello. 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: And welcome to Outspoken. 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Kate Torbert and I can't 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: believe we're actually talking about this, but it's officially less 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: than three months to Christmas and Haigs have unveiled their 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: epic Advent calendar. Now it is quite prizy. This calendar 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: is retailing for one thousand, two hundred and seventy five dollars. Look, 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: I know that Haig's is expensive, but this seems to 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: be a little excessive. 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: Who is buying this? I know it equates to around. 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: Fifty three dollars per window, and I was like, surely 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: you get more than one chocolate. You do, but you 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: don't get heaps in it. Yeah, I wouldn't say that 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: you'd get fifty three dollars worth of chocolate in there, 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: because this calendar isn't actually that big. It's thirty four 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: cents meters high and twenty seven centimeters wide. It is 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: bigger than your traditional Advent calendar. But if I'm spending 22 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: twelve hundred dollars on. 23 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: This, I would like it to be huge. 24 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: I would actually like to go to Haig's and spend 25 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: twelve hundred dollars on chocolates and make my own Advent calendar. 26 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: I think that would be better. 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: You would definitely get. 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: More value for your money. My sister in law did 29 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: float the idea of having a little Haig's bar at 30 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: her wedding as a dessert bar, but I think when 31 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: she did the math, she was like, oh my god, 32 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: this is going to be absolutely obscene. I wonder if 33 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: they're not going to sell many and these will be 34 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: on super sale after Christmas. I reckon there's very limited 35 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: stock with these things. You do know Christmas is coming 36 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: when influencers start unboxing these lavish Advent calendars, and I 37 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: always wonder who was actually the audience for this, particularly 38 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: when we are in a cost of living crisis at 39 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: the moment. To be fair to Haig's, they have chosen 40 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: some very Christmas y chocolates that I would love to try. 41 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: So they've got these really cute little dark Christmas pudding 42 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: Brandy truffles. They look incredible. They also have a snowball 43 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: and a gingerbread biscuit style chocolate. 44 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: Look. 45 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: At least they're on theme. But again, I don't know 46 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: who is buying this. 47 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: I am in the mood to do a really cute 48 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: makeup look today, so let's do it. 49 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: Shannee Grimman has proven she's well and truly over her 50 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: ex boyfriend Jonathan Sour. The Swim Where founder sent Jonathan's 51 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: current girlfriend and influencer Madison Woolley a PR package from 52 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: her label, Silk Swim. Madison proved there's no bad blood, 53 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: sharing a photo of the bikinis and tagging Silk Swim. 54 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: I was a bit surprised by this crossover, and it's 55 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: not because I think that Sharne is holding some sort 56 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: of flame for Jonathan Sour. It's more just because it's awkward. 57 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: It is pretty awkward. I do wonder how Madison felt 58 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: when she received the package, because if I think about it, 59 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: if I got a PR package from my partner's ex girlfriend, 60 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: I would almost feel like it was a bit of 61 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: a power play. It would definitely start a conversation, I think, 62 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: and it would kind of bring up old feelings about 63 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: the X because then suddenly they're in your life again 64 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: and they're being nice to your new girlfriend. You're like, oh, 65 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: that was pretty big of them. I wonder if Sharney 66 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: was doing it for a bit of a PR move 67 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: as well. I mean, I know it was a PR package, 68 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 1: but obviously it's going to get people talking. 69 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: About her brand and her product. 70 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very strategic because actually is very clever. Because 71 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: I feel like Shany Grimmond is really waning in popularity. 72 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: We don't really hear much about her. I know she 73 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: is quite active on TikTok, but I feel like she 74 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: has lost a lot of the relevance she once had. 75 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: I mean, in twenty seventeen, she was the it girl 76 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: of social media, and now I don't really know much 77 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: about her life. I know she's still with Jacob Tompkin, 78 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: but that doesn't really capture me much. I'm not really interested. Well, 79 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: I suppose she doesn't really hang out with all the 80 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: influences that she used to. Yes, she still is friends 81 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: with Michael Finch and a couple of those guys, but 82 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: they don't have that big, powerful crew that they used to. 83 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: I wonder if Madison is going to do the same 84 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: thing and now give Shanny something from her clothing brand. 85 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: I kind of just want to delve into the loose 86 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: and next situation, just briefly and again prefacing we've hashed 87 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: it out. We are all good. 88 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: There is no beef, there is no tea. 89 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: But I do want to just put it to bed 90 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: and let you guys know what happened. 91 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: Lily Brown has finally shared her side in the infamous 92 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: friendship breakdown with the wild Ones Nicky Westcott and Lucy Jackson, 93 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: the Pajama Entrepreneurs. Said she felt betrayed by the Happy 94 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: Hour podcasters and said it was a traumatic time for her. 95 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: Now. 96 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: So rumors have been circulating for years now about their 97 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: friendship breakdown. It really has played out very publicly online, 98 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: and until now we've only really had information drip fed 99 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: to us by both parties in sort of subtle ways, 100 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: whether it's digs in the comment section or on Lucy. 101 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: And Nicky's podcast. 102 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, people have really come up with their own theories 103 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: based on these little bits of information going into their friendship. 104 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: It was in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen that was 105 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: evident to everyone on social media that Lily, Nicky, Lucy 106 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: and m Davies were part of a really tight friendship 107 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: group and they seem to do everything together, whether it 108 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: was traveling the world or attending a lot of festivals. 109 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: And they also seem to help each other out with 110 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: work opportunities, and they regularly appeared on each other's Instagram accounts. 111 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: Things really did take a turn when Lily went through 112 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: a breakup with her then boyfriend Jerome. Now after announcing 113 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: the breakup, Nicki and Lucy continue to publicly hang out 114 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: with Jerome, even posting very cozy photos with him, and 115 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: this caused a lot of tension online and confusion from followers. Now, 116 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: whilst there has been a lot of speculation about what's 117 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: gone on, Lily hasn't gone into detail about it until now. 118 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a very juicy. 119 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: Episode on her podcast, so it was entitled Let's Get Real, 120 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: and Lily said she wanted to put the situation to 121 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: bed and give her side of things. And I thought 122 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: it was really interesting that she was even touching upon 123 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: this because in the first episode of her podcast she 124 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: made a bit of a comment saying that she didn't 125 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: want to give some people airtime. But this is exactly 126 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: what she's done. Yeah, I thought it was odd too, 127 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: because she kept reiterating that if people were there for Tea, 128 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: they weren't going to get it and she's not going 129 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: to air dirty laundry. But I feel like that's exactly 130 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: what she ended up doing. And I think that a 131 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: saw point for her is probably that Lucy and NICKI 132 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: have this hugely successful podcast and they've been able to 133 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: drop little snippets and sort of give a bit of 134 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: their side of things on the Fallout, but she really 135 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: hasn't had that opportunity because although she does have her 136 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: social media platforms like on Instagram and TikTok, I think 137 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 1: if you jump on and talk about a friendship bust 138 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: up on your Instagram stories, it almost feels very antagonistic 139 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: and like you're trying to call someone out. And I 140 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: think that a podcast is a bit more of a 141 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: safe space where you can go deeper on a topic 142 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: and it feels a bit more personal, and you can 143 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: also subtly drop things in other people's stories, So if 144 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: you're interviewing someone and they're talking about a friendship breakdown, 145 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: you can kind of add your narrative to it a 146 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: little bit without being so overt like you would if 147 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: you were doing on your story. 148 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 149 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: Now let's get into Lily's side of things. So she 150 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: explained that in twenty nineteen, at this point, Nicki and 151 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: Ollie Frost were single, but they started spending more and 152 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: more time together. Now he is an interesting one because 153 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: we have spoken a lot about him recently on the podcast. 154 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 1: He went into business with Tammy hem Bro's ex Matt Paul, 155 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: the other Matt, and there's been a lot of drama 156 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 1: about that because the business recently went under and Nikki 157 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: and Ollie have since gone on to get engaged. But 158 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: at this stage they were single and just starting to 159 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: talk to one another. Now, Jerome was good friends with 160 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: Ollie Frost and would hang out with him a lot, 161 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: and shortly after Lily and Jerome broke up, Lily said 162 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: that Nicky, Lucy, Ollie and Jerome started hanging out together 163 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: as a foursome and started posting content across social media. 164 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 2: Here's what Lily said. 165 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: I just was really taken back, to be honest, when 166 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: the four of them started hanging out like the two 167 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: girls and the two boys. I brought it to their attention. 168 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: We went and had dinner and sat down. They came 169 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: to Brisbane and we had dinner and was there and yeah, 170 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: I just like hashed it out with them and then 171 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: just let them know like how much it was affecting 172 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: me that they were posting all over socials them hanging 173 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: out with my ex boyfriend, like going to festivals with them, 174 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: seeing him on the cheek, and posted them on his 175 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: on their story, and then people were saying me the stories, saying, 176 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: what the fuck is this your ex boyfriend, that's a 177 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: pretty dog act whatever, which like, I don't give a 178 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: fuck about him, This is the whole This has nothing 179 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: to do with him, really, It's just more of the 180 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: betrayal of my two best friends who I did everything with. 181 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: I'm kind of on Lily's side there. 182 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: I would be so pissed off if I broke up 183 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,559 Speaker 1: with a guy and then my two best friends looked 184 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: like they were almost out on a double. 185 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: Date with the guy. 186 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: I feel like, if you're sharing it on social media 187 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: as well, given their profiles, you're essentially siding with that person. Yeah, 188 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: it sounds a big message. It almost sent the message 189 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: that Lily had done something wrong in that scenario. Yeah, 190 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: that they were all getting around Jerome to support him. 191 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 192 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: Now, Lily did go on to say that when she 193 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: voiced her concern with the situation, Lucy and Nicki said 194 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: that they respected what she was saying and they were 195 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: going to stop hanging out with Jerome and stop posting 196 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: about it. 197 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: However, she said that it had the opposite effect. 198 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: The post started ramping up and they continued hanging out 199 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: with him. It was pretty clear how much this affected 200 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: her because she said numerous times during the podcast that 201 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: she felt betrayed, and Lily did mention there was a 202 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: photo of Jerome kissing Lucy's cheek, So I wonder if 203 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: she was eluding that something was going on between Lucy 204 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: and Jerome, particularly how she said the two girls hung 205 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: out with the two boys. Yeah, I do think that 206 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: she was insinuating that, particularly because they were all single 207 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: at that point. 208 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: It almost seemed like a double date situation. 209 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it was at this point that Lily really 210 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: started withdrawing from social media and she stopped sharing YouTube 211 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: videos and also stopped posting as much on Instagram. And 212 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: Lily said that this situation was the reason why, and 213 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: it left her feeling shattered and unconfident, and it was 214 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: really evident. The told that this friendship breakdown had on her. 215 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: She broke down in tears during the recording Let's have 216 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: a listen. 217 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: And even talking about it now, I'm like, ah makes 218 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: me wonder cry, but I can't. I can't. Anyways, this 219 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 3: is so I should cry. Oh, I think it's different 220 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 3: to like deal with dealing with friendship like bust ups 221 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 3: in real life is obviously hard enough, but then when 222 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 3: you've got like hundreds of thousands of people. Mm, wow, 223 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 3: I actually am fine, Wow, sorry, got a little bit emos. 224 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: This was a really refreshing side of Lily that I 225 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: don't think that we've seen before. And I think that 226 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: it was a really important conversation to have on her podcast. 227 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: While I do think she was airing a bit of 228 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: tea even though she didn't think so, I think it's 229 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: really helpful for young girls to listen to someone talking 230 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: about a friendship breakdown, because often we minimize the impact 231 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: that friendship breakdowns have on you. I mean, we always 232 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: hear about, oh, if you go through a breakup with 233 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: a partner, that that's such a big deal, But I 234 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: think a friendship breakdown. 235 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: Is just as difficult. 236 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,239 Speaker 1: Oh, and it's something that we all go through, particularly 237 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: in our early twenties. 238 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: I think there's this period where you start. 239 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: Moderating your friendship group and working out who you actually 240 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: see a long term friendship with, and that can be 241 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: really tricky, particularly if you're not the one making that decision. Yeah, 242 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: and for her, she really lost her ex boyfriend and 243 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: her two best friends at the same time. I am 244 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: glad that Lily remained friends with Em Davies, but I 245 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: do feel for em Davies because she is literally in 246 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: the middle of it because she's still friends with Lily, 247 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: Lucy and Nikki. I don't know how she does it 248 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: because normally when something like that happens, like we had 249 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: a similar friendship breakdown, not for the same reasons, but 250 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: we were in a big friendship group with a group 251 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: of girls and then there was this divide and two 252 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: of the girls didn't like one of the girls and 253 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: vice versa, and we almost had to pick a side, 254 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: and we tried to stay friends with everyone, but it 255 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: just does not work. It really doesn't. And during the episode, 256 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: Lily said that em knows what they did was wrong, 257 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: and they know what they did was wrong. I do 258 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: wonder how Em felt being brought into the narrative because 259 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: it would be awkward for your friend to say that, 260 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: perhaps if you. 261 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: Hadn't acknowledged it with the other two. I do wonder how. 262 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: M Davies feels that this has been brought up all again, 263 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: because I felt like things might have been getting better 264 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: between the four of them, because Lily did appear at 265 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: EM's work event recently and it was clear that Nicky 266 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: and Lucy were also both there. So people are like, well, 267 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: maybe they're cool with each other, but I think this 268 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: is going. 269 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 2: To rehash the drama again. 270 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, in the podcast, Lily said that she did 271 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: congratulate Nicki when she got engaged to Ollie, and she 272 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: said that them getting engaged almost made the whole situation 273 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: make a bit more sense because that's probably why they 274 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: were all hanging out together. It would be a hard 275 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: peel to swallow, but I suppose it makes a little 276 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: bit more sense because it appears that Nicki was really 277 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: trying to impress Ollie and in turn except his best 278 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: friend Jerome. 279 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I did really. 280 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: Enjoy this style of episode from Lily. It was interesting 281 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: to see her so to pull down the facade and 282 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: say what's actually going on in her life, because she 283 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: spoke about how she made a lot of bad financial 284 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: decisions off the back end of bad financial advice, so 285 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: much so that she could no longer afford to pay 286 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: her gym membership. 287 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: Here's what she. 288 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 3: Said, I literally almost lost everything at the end of 289 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 3: last year. So yeah, that in itself like not being 290 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: and I even when I was literally scraping the bottom 291 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: of the barrel, like could barely afford my rent, had 292 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 3: to obviously move to the Gold Coast, almost got my car, 293 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: moved all myself into storage unit. I just was always 294 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: making sure that I had enough money to go personal 295 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: training three times a week. 296 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: I think it's so important for influencers to actually open 297 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: up about their influence of lifestyle because so many of 298 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: us to see it as this glamorous life where they 299 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: have so much money and they can. 300 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: Buy whatever they want. 301 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: But that's actually not the reality, and every life has ups, 302 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: and so it is nice that Lily has finally spoken 303 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: about some of the downs that she has experienced, because 304 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: sometimes you just think they get everything so easily. Yeah, well, 305 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't think that anyone expected the past twelve months 306 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: has been this difficult for her, particularly having to move 307 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: to the Gold Coast because she couldn't afford her rent. 308 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: And I think it is just also the reality of 309 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: starting a business, because she did reveal that to get 310 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: her pajama business Chill, off the ground, she invested seventy 311 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, and. 312 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: She said overall she's put. 313 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: About two hundred thousand dollars into her business and continues 314 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: to do so. I found her putting those numbers to 315 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: the business really interesting because I've never heard an influencer 316 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: actually say how much they've invested in their business. And 317 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: I think it's quite refreshing because a lot of us think, oh, yeah, 318 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: they've just started up this business, like you know, it's 319 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: all easy for them. But it clearly had an impact 320 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: on her. 321 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: I suppose it. 322 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: Also gives an insight into the type of money that 323 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: she has earned along her career. And it's interesting she 324 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: said she couldn't afford her rent because a lot of 325 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: influencers got into this position where they were so used 326 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: to having so much money coming in that they would 327 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: rent these massive houses that would cost thousands and thousands 328 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: of dollars a week, and they would also be always 329 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: buying designer gear and they've got used to that excessive spending, 330 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: and then I suppose now when they're not earning as 331 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: much or they're not as relevant, they have to learn 332 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: how to actually live on a normal way. 333 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 334 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: She also mentioned that she used to spend one hundred 335 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars a week on the gym and having 336 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: personal training, and to me, that sounded like a huge 337 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: amount of money. And it just shows the pressure that 338 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: is on these women to appear on social media looking 339 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: a particular way. Yeah, it is a very expensive lifestyle, 340 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: particularly when you're trying to make your life look so 341 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: perfect online challengers. Are you ready? Gladiators? Are you ready? 342 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: The cast of the Gladiators revival has been announced and 343 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: it includes an influencer's boyfriend, Iron Man and male model 344 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: Jet Kenny, who dates Lily Brown, has been cast as 345 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: a gladiator. Now it's not known what his gladiator name 346 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: will be, but he was dressed in a crop top, 347 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: tight fitted pants and a faux fur cape. They must 348 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: be paying him a lot to get up in this outfit. 349 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he's obviously a very fit looking guy. He 350 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: was able to pull off, but I wasn't expecting the fur. 351 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: The fur was a different touch. 352 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: For me, and the makeup was quite out there as well. 353 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: They are meant to be channeling the nineties Gladiators, so 354 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: I loved this show back when I was a kid. 355 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,479 Speaker 1: It aired between nineteen ninety five and nineteen ninety. 356 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: Six, and it was epic. 357 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: My favorite growing up was Storm and Volcan. For any 358 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: other nineties kids, they might remember them too, and it's 359 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: weird to think that they were probably the it models 360 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: and athletes of the time. They did try and revive 361 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: the show back in two thousand and eight and they 362 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: had Tiffany Hall on as a gladiator, so she was 363 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: the trainer from The Biggest Loser and she was called Angel. 364 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: I do love the names that they give them, but 365 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: it just wasn't the same as the nineties, so I 366 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: wonder how they're going to make it better. I did 367 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: see that they're going to bring back some of the 368 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: challenges from the ninety show, so they're going to have 369 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: the challenge, hang tough Jewel, the Wall, Powerable Pyramid, and 370 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: the Eliminator. Okay, for those who can't remember them, my 371 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: favorite was the one where they both down on these 372 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: podiums and they'd have these big sticks and they basically. 373 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: Just try and hit each other off. I think that's 374 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: called the jewel. 375 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: I do remember there was another one, and we used 376 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: to recreate it at sleepovers with our friends, and it 377 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: was that tunnel that you had to run through and 378 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: they're all standing there with those like padded sticks. 379 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: I forgot about that one. 380 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: I was also thinking of the one at the end 381 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: when they have to do all the different challenges and 382 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: they'd always have monkey bars and they'd have to put 383 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: their hands in some sort of powder just so they 384 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: could do the monkey bars. I remember doing that so 385 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: often as a kid at school. Well, that put my 386 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: hand's in the bark chip. That one's called the eliminator. 387 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: There was also that one. I think it is hang 388 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: tough when they had to do sort of monkey bar things, 389 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: but they were like circular hooks and they had to 390 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: swing across, but then out of nowhere a gladiator would 391 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: be chasing them and rip them down. Off this I 392 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: always remember, the contestants would have these really skin tight 393 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: outfits on and it was pretty unforgiving for some of 394 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: the men because I feel like they patted out the gladiators. 395 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: Outfits were not the bulges. 396 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am excited to see how this show does go. 397 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: I know our dad was really excited for it. I 398 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: think it would be a good family show. 399 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Jet is going to appear alongside eleven other athletes, 400 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: including a couple of footy stars, CrossFit champions and also 401 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: a Hollywood stunt woman. And I love the fact that 402 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: Liz Ellis is going to be hosting this show alongside 403 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: the host of the amazing Race Bo Ryan. 404 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: Liz Ellis is very of. 405 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: The moment because she did win, I'm a celeb and 406 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: of course she is a very successful Australian netbuller and 407 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: all time legend. This is going to appear on Channel ten, 408 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: which is the original channel that it aired on back 409 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: in the day, so I really like the nostalgia of 410 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: it all. 411 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: This will take you back. 412 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: So if you've got the full list of Gladiator names, 413 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: so there was Commando, Condor, Cougar, Force, Hammer, Predator, Taipan, Tornado, 414 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: Tower and Volcom So they were the male contestants. The 415 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: female were Blade, Cheetah, Delta, Electra, Flame, Fury, Glacier, Rebel 416 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: and Storm God. That brings back a lot of memories, guys, 417 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: I literally had the best euro Summit. Now officially that 418 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: influencer Talia Scaines has revealed the plans for her epic 419 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: Ballei villa. So Talia and her partner Jake Sajano moved 420 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: to Bari at the start of the year and for 421 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: the past six months have been building a villa to 422 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: permanently live in. 423 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 3: Now. 424 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: Talia's partner, Jake, he runs a development and construction company 425 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: in Bari called The Villas, so his company is behind 426 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: the whole build and as influencers do, Talia has made 427 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: a home account for the villa and she's also given 428 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: the villa a name, so it's called Cassa Su which 429 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: means home at the end of the River, which is 430 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: quite fitting because the villa is located in Illawatu and 431 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 1: overlooks Dreamland Beach. I'm glad she's learnt from her past 432 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: mistake because she did buy a villa with her ex 433 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: boyfriend Mitch Third and they called it Villa Tami, which 434 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: was a collaboration of both of their names. So I'm 435 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: glad she's done something a little bit different. Yeah. 436 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 2: Now, this villa is incredible. 437 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: It spans across three levels and it has the most 438 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: grand entrance, so it's just in the building stage at 439 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: the moment, but she did take her followers for a tour, 440 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: and this isn't your run of the mill villa. The 441 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: bottom floor has a cinema and a gym, as well 442 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: as a guest bedroom, and then the second floor has 443 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: a kitchen with a six meter island bench top and 444 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: a massive pool and outdoor area that forms this balcony. 445 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: And then on the top floor, it's made up of 446 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: three master bedrooms, all with en suites, walking robes, and balconies. 447 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: I do wonder if they're going to have friends live 448 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: with them, or if they're going to rent out some 449 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: of the rooms, because this house is too big. 450 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: For two people. 451 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't get over how massive this villa was. I've 452 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: never seen one that big, and the view was just 453 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: so incredible. I'm assuming it's because he owns this construction company, 454 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: so he's going to give himself the best feeler possible. 455 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: When I was in Bali for my honeymoon, I just 456 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: got so nervous walking past the construction sites because there 457 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: was a big sign that said the aim is zero accidents, 458 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: but I feel like they rarely hit that because you'd 459 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: see construction workers with no shoes on there was no 460 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: safety gear and they'd be standing on the top of 461 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: this huge ledge with no infrastructure around them. It's just 462 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: incredible how they managed to build these amazing villains. Yeah. Well, 463 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: she was just walking around the construction site in a bikini. 464 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: Looked like she had no shoes or no construction hat. 465 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's really interesting to watch the process. It 466 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: doesn't look like they'll be in the villa anytime soon. 467 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: There's a lot to do, but she has been sharing 468 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: some inspo photos on her Instagram and it's very much 469 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: a European feel, that's what she's describing it as, and 470 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: everything inside the house is pretty much white and beige, 471 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: with a lot of marble and a lot of stone finishes. 472 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: I always wonder how people go living in Balley because 473 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: I was there for a week, as I mentioned, and 474 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: I loved it, But I don't think I could live 475 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: in Balley. No, I was wondering how it would go. 476 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: It seems to be working well with her job and 477 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: her partner, Jake, has actually previously lived in Balley before. 478 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: They seem like quite a cute couple because they're both 479 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: just as obsessed with Bali as one another. 480 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 2: They've actually met in Balley, but she never seems to 481 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: actually be home in Balley. 482 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: She's always in Australia or she was traveling Europe with 483 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: a lot of brands. Yeah, but I think it works 484 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: for her career because she probably doesn't get sick of it, 485 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: and then when she is at home, she's got a 486 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: really beautiful backdrop to shoot content for her bikini line 487 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: with very true I just yeah, I don't think I 488 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: could do it. 489 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 4: I answered a question whats on my YouTube about was 490 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 4: a love lining in a business move for you? And 491 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 4: it is tricky for me to say the right thing 492 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 4: without upsetting people. But I didn't go on that show 493 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 4: to find love. 494 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 1: Molly May and her sister Zoe Haig have opened up 495 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: about their sex drives and also their experiences with cosmetic procedures. 496 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: During a recent YouTube video, they did put a call 497 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: out to their followers asking what they wanted vice on. 498 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: Now. 499 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: I think that I've. 500 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: Ever heard anyone, particularly with a large platform like Molly May, 501 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: talk so openly about their sex drive before. She has 502 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: been opening up more and more recently, though, because back 503 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: in March last year, she did share that she was 504 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: battling endometriosis and that the condition was actually making it 505 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 1: really excruciating to have sex with her partner, Tommy Fury, 506 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: And this was so brave to talk about because if 507 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: you're in the public eye, people always want to talk 508 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: about your relationship, and there's so many rumors regarding their 509 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: relationship and a lot of bullshit about cheating. And I 510 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: feel like talking about the fact that they didn't have 511 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: sex that often because it was painful was opening up 512 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: a can of worms. 513 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: But she wanted to do so to help out her followers. 514 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, because Tommy is often away on different camps to 515 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: do with his boxing, so they actually aren't under the 516 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: same roof a lot, which, as you said, Kate, does 517 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: lead to a lot of speculation. So I think it 518 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: was really brave for her to put herself out there 519 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: and have this conversation, which is so important. Now, Molly 520 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: did undergo surgery to try and alleviate some of these 521 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: symptoms and. 522 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: It has seemed to work. It's funny. 523 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: I always know when Molly's gonna say something juicy on 524 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: her YouTube channel when she puts a disclaimer saying, oh, 525 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: I didn't know if I should talk about it because. 526 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with the headlines. Let's throw 527 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: to what she actually said. 528 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 4: I actually dread the things I'm gonna come from this video. 529 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 4: Mollie may say she hates sex, No I don't. 530 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 3: I don't. 531 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 4: Oh God. 532 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: I really like that Molly was brave enough to have 533 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: this conversation because I think in the past few years 534 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: we've really seen this wave of sex positive feminism where 535 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: women are feeling more liberated to talk about sex and 536 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: the idea of enjoying it isn't something to be ashamed of, 537 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: which I think is really positive. But I think it 538 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: has left some women wondering why, perhaps for them, sex 539 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: isn't at the top of their priority list, or why 540 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: they don't seem to have as much desire as other 541 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: women do online, and whether that's normal or not. 542 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 543 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: And Molly did say that she'd spoken about this with 544 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: her friends before, and it actually left her feeling worse 545 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: about the situa because none of them could relate to 546 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: what she was feeling. So I think she has put 547 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: it out there to be like, well, this is how 548 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: I feel, So if anyone's feeling like me, you're not alone. 549 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 550 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: And I think it really highlighted that if you are 551 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: feeling a particular way you should talk about it with 552 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: your partner, and it doesn't mean that you're any less 553 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: attracted to them at all. On the flip side, Molly 554 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: said that when she was pregnant with Bambi that her 555 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: sex drife went through the roof and it was actually 556 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: Tommy who wasn't reciprocating things because he felt strange about 557 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: their daughter technically being there. Molly did say at the 558 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: time it did make her question whether Tommy was still 559 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: attracted to her. 560 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: Here's what she said, When. 561 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 4: I was pregnant and I want to have sex all 562 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 4: the time and Tommy didn't, I do not find me attracted. 563 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 4: That's god. I wanted to have sex and I'd be like, yeah, no, literally. 564 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 4: And also I always say to Tommy like, if I'm 565 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 4: not feeling it or whatever, it's like nothing to do 566 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 4: with you as a mere problem. It's literally a problem. 567 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: It was also interesting how they spoke about their relationship 568 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: with cosmetic proceed just because both girls have been very 569 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: open about what they've had done. They did say that 570 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: every time they've had something done, it seems to have 571 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: gone wrong. They weren't so much against cosmetic procedures, they 572 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: just wanted people to be open minded and realized that 573 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: this is actually something serious. You are doing something to 574 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: your face and you might react negatively to it, because 575 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: Zoe said she's had a number of allergic reactions, so 576 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 1: she was allergic to cheek feeler. Apparently she got it 577 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: done and her whole face blew up like a chipmunk. 578 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 579 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: And then she had botox done to kind of calm 580 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: her crows feet down, and she said that then it 581 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: stopped her from being able to smile. But they did 582 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: acknowledge that it looks great on some people, it just 583 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to work for them. 584 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 585 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: Well, I mean that is a good message because over 586 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: the last ten years, social media has really glamorized the process, 587 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: and it is important to know that things can go wrong. 588 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 589 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: I think that cosmetic procedures have almost become something like 590 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: just getting your hair done. It's sort of just this 591 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: routine that you go and do. It's something in your schedule. 592 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: But I think that the lot of people don't talk 593 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: about the negative side effects that can happen. I mean, 594 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: I go on TikTok and I hear everyone talking about 595 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: the botox that they're getting in their forehead or for 596 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: their crows feet, and I do feel a lot of pressure. 597 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: I think, you know, getting into your mid thirties, you 598 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: start thinking why I want to keep looking young? You know, 599 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: you feel this pressure that you want to look like 600 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: everyone else. And you know, I do also think that 601 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: the botox forehead it almost comes with an element of 602 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: privilege and you think, oh, wow, that person must be 603 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: really rich because they can afford to go and get 604 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: that done all or you just assume that anyone that 605 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: looks young has had botox when it might not. 606 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 2: Be the case at all. 607 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: And again, absolutely no shade to anyone who gets it done, 608 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: because I do find myself like, oh, you know, getting 609 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: interested in seeing people people's results, but I like to 610 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: be reminded that it is a process. 611 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: Some people can have negative reactions. 612 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: So the reality check of you know, you have to 613 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: choose the right person to do it. And Molly May 614 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: and Zoe they have access to probably the best people 615 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: in the industry, and yet there's having issues with it. 616 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: So it's not so black and white that you're always 617 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: going to look great after having it. And that is 618 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: a concern because I think that whilst we don't want 619 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: to be shaming anyone who chooses to go and get 620 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: cosmetic procedures, because it is one hundred percent your decision 621 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: if you want to get that done. I also think 622 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: that we still need to be having important conversations about 623 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, putting out that there are risks, you need 624 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: to be choosing the right people. 625 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: To do it. 626 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: You need to really research what procedures you're going to 627 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: get done. And I think that's why it's really important 628 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: that there are more guidelines in place at the moment. 629 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: And I do like how there seems to be a 630 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: trend on TikTok of people sharing the failures as well, 631 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: like everyday people saying, oh, actually I got my lip 632 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: filler and it looks ridiculous on me and I hate 633 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: it because you haven't seen that side of things on 634 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: social media for so long. Well, I think that is 635 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: all we have time for today. Thank you so much 636 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: for joining us for today's episode. If you have enjoyed it, 637 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: could you please make sure you are subscribed on Apple 638 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: podcast and also Spotify, And if you are in the 639 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: mood to hear more content from us, then maybe sign 640 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: up to Outspoken Plus. We do have back catalog of 641 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: over thirty episodes and we drop new episodes every Wednesday. 642 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: This episode was recorded on the traditional land of the 643 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to 644 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,719 Speaker 1: elders past and present