WEBVTT - MINI:The Ultimate NFL Australia Guide with David Lombardi

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like Christmas Eve today. The buzz here in

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<v Speaker 2>Melbourne is electric right now. The sun's up. The Rams

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<v Speaker 2>are finally showing up for the game as well. 49ers

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<v Speaker 2>have been here all week, and I think they've won

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<v Speaker 2>over all the locals. Neutral fans will be cheering on

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<v Speaker 2>the 49ers tomorrow. We have a pair of tickets, which

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<v Speaker 2>are going to give away to go to the huge

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<v Speaker 2>game tomorrow. And one of the highlights of this week

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<v Speaker 2>has been all the American sports journalists who've been over

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<v Speaker 2>wandering around here, who've been here for the week with

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<v Speaker 2>the 49ers, filming videos, discovering what chicken salt is, that

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<v Speaker 2>the coffee really is some of the best in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's been a really nice way because

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<v Speaker 2>when I moved here from London eight years ago, for

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<v Speaker 2>my first two years, people would always say to me,

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<v Speaker 2>why did you move here from London? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>because this is a nice place here as well. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think Australia sometimes has this kind of lack of self-confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a cultural cringe. I don't think you realize what

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<v Speaker 2>a great country it is. And there's so many great highlights.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we've got David Lombardian, who's a reporter for

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<v Speaker 2>the San Francisco Standard. And I started watching your stuff

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday. So we really want to say thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>for being so effuse about Melbourne and Australia. David, welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. And I think I had chicken salt for

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<v Speaker 3>the first time yesterday. Now that you mentioned it, they

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<v Speaker 3>put it on my fries at this Australian burger place

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<v Speaker 3>called Andrews.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was really good.

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<v Speaker 3>The fries were addictive with it. They asked me if

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted chicken salt or some kind of other salt.

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<v Speaker 3>I had no idea. I'm like, just pick for me.

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<v Speaker 3>They said, you want the chicken salt. So I had

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<v Speaker 3>the chicken salt.

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<v Speaker 2>Australians are very proud of Australians. Now, the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>I have to check, your surname then, Lombardi.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Are you any relation to one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>coaches of all time, Vince?

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<v Speaker 3>I mess with people, and I probably could mess with

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<v Speaker 3>you guys right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You should.

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<v Speaker 3>We wouldn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You could be his son.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Vince Lombardi's great-great, or maybe just great-grandson. Grandson? I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what the appropriate... I'm not related to him,

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<v Speaker 3>but I have a perfect name for football.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is.

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<v Speaker 3>And people love it, and that is the Lombardi trophy.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right. And tell me this. What have you made

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<v Speaker 1>of Australia this week, then? Because you've been here all week.

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<v Speaker 3>It's such a fascinating country. I started in Brisbane, worked

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<v Speaker 3>my way down to the Gold Coast, the Byron Bay area,

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<v Speaker 3>flew down here, and I'm going to see Sydney after this.

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<v Speaker 3>The first part that really, really kind of messed with

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<v Speaker 3>my head, but it's awesome, is that there's a Pacific

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<v Speaker 3>Coast Highway. It's called the Pacific Motorway here. We have

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<v Speaker 3>that in California.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is like the mirror inverse of We're on

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<v Speaker 3>the other side of the Pacific Ocean. We're in the

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<v Speaker 3>southern hemisphere. And so I see so many things that

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<v Speaker 3>are similar, but they're a little bit different. The burger yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, there's a place in San Francisco called Sam's

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<v Speaker 3>that Anthony Bourdain went to. And he said it's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the top three burgers in the world. I love Sam's.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to them if you ever go to the U.S.

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew's reminded me of Sam's, like the vibe and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>But the burger was different. It was Australian. It was

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<v Speaker 3>really good. So everything here is different. reminds me a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of California going down the coast, except in

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<v Speaker 3>a slightly different way. And it's like really hard to

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<v Speaker 3>put your finger on it. But that's the biggest compliment

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<v Speaker 3>I could give because I love California. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that Australia and the coastline and the cities have similar vibes.

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<v Speaker 3>And now we're here in Melbourne and there's some San

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<v Speaker 3>Francisco in this city, quite literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've been to San Francisco. I would definitely say that.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got a bay as well here in Melbourne as well.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing I've noticed from your videos, you really love

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<v Speaker 2>tram talk. At first, I thought you were a tram correspondent.

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<v Speaker 2>You love our tram system. A lot of heavy video

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<v Speaker 2>about the trams.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a cool connection there, and you're right. I'm half Czech, actually.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom is from Prague, and I spent the summers there,

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<v Speaker 3>and they have a crazy, intricate tram system as well.

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<v Speaker 3>As an American, we don't really have much knowledge In

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<v Speaker 3>terms of public transit, people love their cars. They're probably

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<v Speaker 3>the two most robust public transit systems are New York

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<v Speaker 3>city and San Francisco and San Francisco is not, not

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<v Speaker 3>nearly as robust as New York. So I think there

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<v Speaker 3>is a little bit of a fascination from Americans when

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<v Speaker 3>you could show up somewhere and you don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>drive everywhere. And then they have the Melbourne has the.

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<v Speaker 3>I think biggest tram network in the world. The only

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<v Speaker 3>reason I now know this is from watching your video.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that none of us on the team

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<v Speaker 2>knew this until David.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you see the connection to San Francisco? Melbourne donated

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<v Speaker 3>two of them to San Francisco and they run there.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I showed up here, I saw the old

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<v Speaker 3>historic one. It's the older one. It's like the one

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<v Speaker 3>that just, I think, takes the scenic route. I saw

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<v Speaker 3>it and I'm like, I've seen that in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>We're screwing with you, David. So at that point I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, this is cool. Let me look up

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<v Speaker 3>some other connections. And the neighborhood called Richmond in Melbourne

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<v Speaker 3>is the namesake for the Richmond district in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's some cool connections between the two cities. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's fitting that the 49ers, the San Francisco

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<v Speaker 3>49ers are playing the first game here.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, tell me this, though. Big game tomorrow. Australia's really,

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<v Speaker 1>really excited.

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<v Speaker 2>What's fascinating about this as well is it's two completely

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<v Speaker 2>teams with two very different strategies about how to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with the sleep and the time zone and the 15-hour flight. So, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>your team, the 49ers, you've been here for a week.

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<v Speaker 2>The team have been getting used to acclimatising to the

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<v Speaker 2>time zone here. Rams have just arrived. Don't you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be interesting tomorrow? They've all been looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the same science. Two vastly different teams with different approaches.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Rams have decided to just ignore jet lag.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, though, they say we would rather play the game

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<v Speaker 3>at 5 p.m. on our body clock time, which is

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<v Speaker 3>the time that it's going to be at 10 a.m.

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<v Speaker 1>On Thursday, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when it starts. What I think they're not taking

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<v Speaker 3>seriously enough is just being on a plane for that

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<v Speaker 3>long makes you ache and just throws you off in

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<v Speaker 3>a different way. So even if you're on the body

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<v Speaker 3>clock time that you want to be on, They could say,

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, we have lay flat seats. These guys are 6'6,

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<v Speaker 3>320 pounds. Not all of them are going to sleep

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<v Speaker 3>or not all of them are going to get the

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<v Speaker 3>you know, most restful position.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, have they got extra wide beds for some

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<v Speaker 1>of the big guys?

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<v Speaker 3>They're on the Qantas A380, so they have the- Is.

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<v Speaker 1>That like the widest plane in the world?

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<v Speaker 3>That's the double-decker where they have the ultra first class

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<v Speaker 3>at the top, so I think the biggest players might

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<v Speaker 3>get the best seats. So, in theory, I could see

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<v Speaker 3>what they mean, but I think it's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bunch of- It's like a giant share house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>A frat house in the sky. Animal house in the sky.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the Niners took the same flight and they

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<v Speaker 3>have already reported back saying it took us three or

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<v Speaker 3>four days to do normal. I just think that the

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<v Speaker 3>Rams did this on paper and it sounded good in

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<v Speaker 3>their heads. But I think in practice, once you're on

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<v Speaker 3>the plane, yeah, you could say, oh, this is really comfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>But once you're on it, you're like, wait, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>this is nice, but I still need a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>days to recover. That's my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, listen, I know obviously you're biased, um, but what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think is going to happen? What can we

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<v Speaker 1>expect in the game tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be a really good competitive game. The

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<v Speaker 3>NFL picked these two teams for a reason. They're in

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<v Speaker 3>the same division. They play twice a year, unless they

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<v Speaker 3>play three times a year, like they did a few

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<v Speaker 3>years ago in the NFC championship game. So they know

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<v Speaker 3>each other really well. The games between the Niners and

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<v Speaker 3>the Rams are always very competitive. Last year, they split.

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<v Speaker 3>The 49ers won one, the Rams won one. So it, it,

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<v Speaker 3>It's a toss-up, I think. I think that the Rams

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<v Speaker 3>not having Aaron Donald yet, who's their legendary defensive tackle,

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<v Speaker 3>came out of retirement but didn't make the trip, works

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<v Speaker 3>in the favor of the 49ers. I think the 49ers

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<v Speaker 3>will have Nick Bosa, will have George Kittle. Those are

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<v Speaker 3>two superstars. So I think the edge will be that

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<v Speaker 3>they got here sooner and the fans will be on

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<v Speaker 3>their side.

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<v Speaker 2>Our whole team in show now, we're all 49ers because

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<v Speaker 2>of that.

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<v Speaker 3>So, listen, in football, I don't know how... In football,

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<v Speaker 3>it might be more important than in any other sport

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<v Speaker 3>because there are actual technical ramifications of crowd noise.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Because there's so much communication.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a real thing. So, you know, anybody listening

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to the game, if you're offended by the

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<v Speaker 3>Rams disrespecting the city and the country by showing up

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<v Speaker 3>so late, you have to be as loud as possible...

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<v Speaker 3>When the Rams have the football right when they line

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<v Speaker 3>up at the line of scrimmage, because then the Rams

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<v Speaker 3>can't hear any of what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so all the calls will just get lost.

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<v Speaker 3>And they have to go to silent count. So they

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<v Speaker 3>have to start doing stuff with their hands. And that

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<v Speaker 3>actually really, really impacts how things operate.

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought about that.

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<v Speaker 3>And the defensive linemen can actually time the snap count

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<v Speaker 3>then and get like a split second advantage over the

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<v Speaker 3>offensive linemen trying to block him. because they can rely

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<v Speaker 3>on the visual cues. And so the defense is statistically

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<v Speaker 3>more likely to get to the quarterback and is more

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<v Speaker 3>successful when it is playing at home because the crowd

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<v Speaker 3>is on its side.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Meant to be a home game for the Rams.

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<v Speaker 2>And one thing the 49ers did great, not only did

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<v Speaker 2>they show up early, but they've had all the ex-players

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<v Speaker 2>and legends. Jerry Rice created chaos yesterday in Fed Square

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<v Speaker 2>by going into the transport bar.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the greatest... receivers and players ever.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I suppose the Rams didn't at least send

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<v Speaker 2>some former players and legends out here in advance because

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<v Speaker 2>this is supposed to be a home game for them.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's really funny is that whenever the 49ers play

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<v Speaker 3>the Rams in Los Angeles, it's also supposed to be

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<v Speaker 3>a home game. for the Rams but it ends up

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<v Speaker 3>being a home game for the 49ers the Rams don't

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<v Speaker 3>even own LA is is I think Australians should understand

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<v Speaker 3>that so there's a rather complex history there but the

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<v Speaker 3>the Rams are have never been good at cultivating a

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<v Speaker 3>fan base. When they were in LA, they moved to

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<v Speaker 3>Orange County, which is over an hour away. And then

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<v Speaker 3>they moved to St.

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<v Speaker 1>Louis.

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<v Speaker 3>So they abandoned Southern California. And that was during the

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<v Speaker 3>window where the 49ers were a dynasty. So the LA area,

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<v Speaker 3>an entire generation said, we're just going to be 49ers fans.

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<v Speaker 3>And so now when you go down to LA, there is.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say 70, 80% of the stadium is 49ers

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<v Speaker 3>fans and the Rams that their quarterback Stafford has complained

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<v Speaker 3>that he has to run silent count in his own stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So they're going to get that treatment here as well. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So, so here's the, here's the kicker. The, the Rams, they,

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<v Speaker 3>they got this Australia game and Kyle Shanahan, the 49ers

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<v Speaker 3>coach is convinced. And I think he has inside information

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<v Speaker 3>that the Rams lobbied the NFL to to send the

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<v Speaker 3>49ers as their opponent because the Rams did not want

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<v Speaker 3>to be embarrassed in their home stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And now because they haven't shown up in time and

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't realize how seriously people take the sports here,

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<v Speaker 3>they might've turned the crowd against them. So they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to have the same issue. Love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the backstory. And so are you excited about

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<v Speaker 2>the game? Do we think we're going to see this

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<v Speaker 2>to be an annual thing? I think that obviously there's

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<v Speaker 2>a deal where there's two more games over the next

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<v Speaker 2>four years, because I think it was also surprised even

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<v Speaker 2>us on the team, is just how much Australians have

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<v Speaker 2>really got behind this week.

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<v Speaker 1>We've loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. I think they're coming back next year. I think

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<v Speaker 3>they've already made modifications to the G, to the locker rooms.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's four locker rooms in there, but they've

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<v Speaker 3>been able to, because you need bigger ones for football

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<v Speaker 3>because the rosters are so big, that they've combined two

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<v Speaker 3>of the locker rooms to make one. Yeah, I read

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<v Speaker 3>something about that. So I think that they're doing stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that is not meant for one-time use. The NFL wants

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<v Speaker 3>to come back and, Roger Goodell has been glowing about

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<v Speaker 3>how well this week is going, and I think the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL has already decided that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a joy having you guys here. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>coming in on the show. Enjoy Sydney the weekend, and

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy the game tomorrow. Go 49ers. Dave Lombardi, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>very much.

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<v Speaker 1>The Christian O'Connell Show. Go on. Podcast.