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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Female Athlete Project. My name is Chloe Dalton.

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Speaker 1: I'm an Olympic gold medalist in rugby sevens and because

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Speaker 1: I have commitment issues, I've played two other sports at

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Speaker 1: professional level. The last two seasons, I've played for Carlton

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Speaker 1: in the AFLW and prior to that, played for the

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Speaker 1: Sydney Uni Flames in the Women's National Basketball League. I'm

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Speaker 1: currently training full time with the Australian rugby sevens team

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Speaker 1: in preparation for the now Tokyo twenty twenty one Olympics.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite things to do is to head

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Speaker 1: down to the beach, grab a coffee and the paper,

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Speaker 1: click to the back page and read about sport. I've

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Speaker 1: had enough of only reading stories about men's sport, so

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Speaker 1: I decided to do something about it. One day, female

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Speaker 1: athletes will be recognized by their achievements, not by their gender.

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Speaker 1: Until then, I'm going to chat to and share the

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Speaker 1: stories of epicossy female athletes. This episode is brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Workplace Law. The team at Workplace Law are

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Speaker 1: Law dot com dot au. My guest this week is

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Speaker 1: netballer Maddie Proud. In twenty eleven, at just sixteen years

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Speaker 1: of age, Mattie became the youngest ever player to be

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Speaker 1: contracted to a professional team, the Adelaide Thunderbirds. In twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: Mattie moved to Sydney to join the new South Wales Swifts,

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Speaker 1: who she captain to a premiership in twenty nineteen after

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Speaker 1: being sidelined with an aco rupture. In twenty twenty, following

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Speaker 1: an impressive Sun Corpse Supernetball season, Maddie was selected for

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Speaker 1: her first Australian Diamonds netball squad. Maddie has some really

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Speaker 1: unique insights on battling through injury and rehab while trying

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Speaker 1: to lead a team from the sidelines, and she's even

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Speaker 1: written a book for young girls. I had so much

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Speaker 1: fun chatting with Maddie. I hope you enjoy it. Maddie Proud,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Female Athlete Project.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for having me. Excited to be here, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Very excited to have you on. Welcome back to Sydney.

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Speaker 1: You've spent a few months up north in Queensland. The

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty supernet Ball season, which we'll get to a

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Speaker 1: little bit later on, but firstly, congratulations on your selection

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Speaker 1: in the Australian Diamonds squad. How was that going into

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Speaker 1: the supernet Ball season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: It kind of feels like the last few months are

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Speaker 3: all a blur and they've kind of merged into one.

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Speaker 3: To think that we kind of were eve it is

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Speaker 2: But the Diamonds camp itself was amazing.

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Speaker 3: It was my obviously first taste of that and obviously

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Speaker 3: everything that has happened this year, it was a little

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Speaker 3: It was in Noosa, were staying at like an RACV resort.

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Speaker 3: I was like, if this is what the Diamonds is like,

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Speaker 3: I should have been here earlier. If I'd noticed it,

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Speaker 3: it is obviously everything that had happened. We've played so

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Speaker 2: Social media was just full of us on boats.

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Speaker 3: Actually I'm doing some culture stuff behind closed doors, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing, And what will next year look like

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Speaker 1: And as you kind of mentioned before, that was something

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I can't wait to see what happens from here.

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Speaker 1: And when you were sixteen years old back in twenty eleven,

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Speaker 1: back in your hometown of Adelaide, what was that phone call?

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Speaker 1: Like I read that the coach was Jane Woodland's Thompson.

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Speaker 3: And I think back then, you're sixteen, you're very dramatic.

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Speaker 2: And then I was like, but why is she asking you?

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Speaker 3: Chanane did to get me to sign the contract, and

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Speaker 3: And yeah, being in year twelve that year, so I

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Speaker 3: I think it helped me probably grow as a leader

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Speaker 3: Think everything happens for a reason, And yeah, it could

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Speaker 1: in training, like I've found and I don't know a

439
00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,600
Speaker 1: lot of athletes find that rehab process can be pretty

440
00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,720
Speaker 1: isolating in a pretty lonely time, and you've got so

441
00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,359
Speaker 1: many milestones that you have to tick off, and it

442
00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,520
Speaker 1: feels like it goes so slowly. But you also feel

443
00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,600
Speaker 1: like you're missing out on what the team is doing.

444
00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,280
Speaker 1: Did you find that balance tricky because you were the

445
00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,000
Speaker 1: captain and you were kind of trying to give them

446
00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,399
Speaker 1: feedback and advice, but you're not going through all the

447
00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,159
Speaker 1: hard yards at there. You're obviously doing your own you're

448
00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,800
Speaker 1: facing your own battle with your rehab, but you're not

449
00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,760
Speaker 1: doing the same training that they're doing on the court.

450
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And I think everyone sort of thinks, oh,

451
00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,879
Speaker 2: now you're doing real like you're injured, you know, what

452
00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:50,920
Speaker 2: are you doing with all your spare time?

453
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, like you train more when you're

454
00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,560
Speaker 3: in rehab, because we'll started as you're going to every

455
00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,600
Speaker 3: training session with the girls. And I was lucky that

456
00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,560
Speaker 3: I was sort of able to do my rehab almost

457
00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,000
Speaker 3: like on the soide at the court, particularly in those

458
00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,440
Speaker 3: early days. Your training essentially is learning to walk again,

459
00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:05,880
Speaker 3: so you can kind of do that and be able

460
00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,119
Speaker 3: to see what they're doing on the court.

461
00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,480
Speaker 2: But it then meant that, yeah, you're.

462
00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:10,960
Speaker 3: You know, when the girls are finished, you then have

463
00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,840
Speaker 3: to do your extra rehab or your extra conditioning that

464
00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,480
Speaker 3: you might have to do at the pool somewhere else.

465
00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,920
Speaker 3: So it's like your kind of whole life becomes rehab.

466
00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,320
Speaker 3: And yeah, I guess in terms of their bigger cat

467
00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,480
Speaker 3: that and you kind of want to be like, oh,

468
00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,119
Speaker 3: you guys, are you guys working hard enough? Blah bah

469
00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,960
Speaker 3: blah blah, it's like, well, you're walking off the sidelines, Maybie.

470
00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,800
Speaker 3: But I was very lucky that I think the girls

471
00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,679
Speaker 3: kind of understood and we I think for me it

472
00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,560
Speaker 3: probably taught me a bit more tough love. And I

473
00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,040
Speaker 3: think it's sometimes hard as a captain if you're on

474
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,080
Speaker 3: the court and say you're not performing, you're having a

475
00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,200
Speaker 3: bad game. I always struggle with being like, how can

476
00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:40,560
Speaker 3: I be the one that's telling the girls is not

477
00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,879
Speaker 3: good enough because I'm actually not doing my role, Whereas

478
00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,480
Speaker 3: when I sort of was a bit more removed from that,

479
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,399
Speaker 3: it probably helped me learn how to kind of do

480
00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,760
Speaker 3: that in a way that was like, what's not personal

481
00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:51,560
Speaker 3: and it's something to do with me.

482
00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,920
Speaker 2: It's just about the team, I guess more than anything.

483
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess I did have days where it

484
00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,479
Speaker 3: was incredibly lonely, or you had I probably found it

485
00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,560
Speaker 3: was harder when the girls were in off season as well,

486
00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,680
Speaker 3: because everyone else went home, and that was probably when

487
00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,600
Speaker 3: things were ramping up for my rehab, so I was

488
00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,040
Speaker 3: having to do two gym sessions a day, and you think,

489
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,800
Speaker 3: you know, at least when we had season, it was

490
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,480
Speaker 3: sort of broken up by games and I was still

491
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,000
Speaker 3: traveling and you know, you still kind of.

492
00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 2: Had everything else going along.

493
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,080
Speaker 3: But I was also I don't say lucky, but one

494
00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,760
Speaker 3: of the other girls in the team did a shoulder

495
00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,680
Speaker 3: sort of a couple of weeks after I did, and

496
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 3: so she was sort of on that similar journey to me,

497
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 3: with similar sort of timelines and well obviously opposite ends

498
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 3: of the body, but even just being able to have

499
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,160
Speaker 3: her there. You kind of never wish another long term

500
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,000
Speaker 3: injury upon anybody, but it is a lot nicer and

501
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,920
Speaker 3: a lot kind of easier, I guess, when you're being

502
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 3: out to share it with someone else. So yeah, I

503
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,159
Speaker 3: definitely think that long term injuries and rehab have a

504
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,359
Speaker 3: bit of a misconception in the in the sporting world,

505
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 3: and it's probably not until you experienced it that you

506
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,679
Speaker 3: do realize, yeah, how kind of isolating and lonely it

507
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 3: can be, and yeah, how much you kind of value

508
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,760
Speaker 3: that team support, which is why we all played choose

509
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 3: to play team sports is because of that, So rehab

510
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:00,879
Speaker 3: makes you realize you never to be an individually.

511
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Speaker 1: Yes. And I had a really interesting chat with Kayla

512
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,399
Speaker 1: George who plays in the Women's National Basketball League for

513
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 1: the Melbourn Boomers, and she's in a leadership role and

514
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,880
Speaker 1: I found it really interesting what she talked about. She's

515
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 1: been playing basketball professionally for thirteen or fourteen years or

516
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,920
Speaker 1: something now, and I loved what she said about how

517
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 1: when she was younger, she was like really anxious and

518
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 1: so nervous when she'd got on the court, but now

519
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 1: because she feels as more of an experienced player now

520
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 1: has the ability to be relaxed and more calm out

521
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 1: on the court. She can now help the younger girls

522
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 1: and lead them in a sense. And do you feel like,

523
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Speaker 1: because you've been playing for a longer time now that

524
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 1: you can can give that to the younger girls that

525
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,120
Speaker 1: are coming through the swifts? Yeah.

526
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Speaker 3: I think it's it's kind of a fine line as

527
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 3: a balance. I think with netber as well, you're never

528
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,160
Speaker 3: sort of safe in your position either, Like even this year,

529
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 3: like we had the instruction of rolling subs and partly

530
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 3: because I was coming back from n injury, but you

531
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 3: also like you're never on the court every quarter for

532
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 3: every game, and I probably was in and out of games,

533
00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 3: and that's so there's that fine line between trying to

534
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 3: focus on your own performance, and for me, it was

535
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 3: that's something I kind of had to work with, you know,

536
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,360
Speaker 3: even our team psych about when I was coming back.

537
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 3: It was like, Okay, I want to be a captain,

538
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 3: I want to be a leader. I want to be

539
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 3: able to give back to everyone, but also come back

540
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 3: from a long term injury, and so I need to

541
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 3: kind of just be able.

542
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: To get my performance right.

543
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 3: And for me, even coming back from injury, it was like,

544
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 3: you obviously hear a lot of the mental side of

545
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 3: it in terms of re injuring yourself, whereas I was

546
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 3: very lucky that I was probably so confident in my

547
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 3: rehab and physios and senc that I kind of felt

548
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 3: fitter and stronger than ever. For me, it was more

549
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 3: the performance side of things that I kind of struggled

550
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,439
Speaker 3: with more, just that I was so nervous.

551
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 2: I was like, am I going to be able to

552
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 2: plain apple again? Am I going to know how to

553
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 2: throw on catch?

554
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,719
Speaker 3: And everything happened with COVID meant that my sort of

555
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 3: comeback plan got pretty derailed, and I actually was sort

556
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 3: of lucky in the end because I retore my miniscus

557
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 3: early this year, which would have put me back further

558
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 3: and meant that I probably wouldn't have come back until

559
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 3: halfway through a normal season, but COVID pushed the season back,

560
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 3: so I ended up being able to play a full season,

561
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 3: which was a blessing in disguise, but it sort of

562
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 3: meant that I didn't get those practice in and so

563
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 3: there was still a lot of kind of anxiety and

564
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 3: stress around am I going to be able to get

565
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: back to the level that I was at last year,

566
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 3: or am I even going to be able to earn my.

567
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 2: Spot on the court?

568
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 3: So I find that's always that real juggling act between that.

569
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 3: But then you also obviously want to be able to

570
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 3: give back to the younger players and help them out.

571
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 3: But then it's like, in my own head, but I

572
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 3: want to be with you, and I guess as I

573
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 3: grow and probably even more pally heading into twenty twenty one,

574
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 3: that's when I'll be able to maybe flip that a

575
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 3: little bit more. But in a way, I probably had

576
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 3: to be a little bit selfish in some senses this year,

577
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 3: just to make sure we'll Okay, well, I'm not doing

578
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 3: my job if I can't get myself right first. So

579
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 3: it's kind of that case of do you and then

580
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 3: be able to help others. But I also think on

581
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 3: the other side of it, it can be you can

582
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 3: sometimes learn more and you kind of relax a bit

583
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 3: more if you take the focus away from yourself and

584
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 3: actually say, Okay, I'm going to help this young girl

585
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 3: out today. Yeah, I haven't probably answered your question, but

586
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: I guess it's a juggling act.

587
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Speaker 1: Some real good stuff in there. I like it.

588
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 2: It's never a simple answer with me, So.

589
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Speaker 1: nineteen Supernetball Grand Final.

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Speaker 4: Eleven years between Drinks two thousand and night, the last

604
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Speaker 4: time the SWISSWA Apprenticeship and today they have their maiden

605
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Speaker 4: Supermal Premiership. The News Final sixty four of the Lighting

606
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Speaker 4: forty seven win. Oh my god.

607
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: Obviously a pretty special day that that one. You were

608
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: still coming back from your ACL injury, so they're in

609
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: your polo shirt. But as the captain and I saw

610
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Speaker 1: with Paige Hadley you were able to kind of lift

611
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Speaker 1: the trophy together with the girls. What was that experience like?

612
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Speaker 3: That was just it's still feel like a dream, even't

613
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 3: he listening to that? It kind of doesn't feel real.

614
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 3: And we'd played the Lightning, That's who we played in

615
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 3: the Grand Final. I think we played in them three

616
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: times that year and we had not beat them once

617
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Speaker 3: and then we came out on that Grand Final day

618
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: and won by seventeen goals. And I just remember watching

619
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 3: the first center pass and like I was, I'm the

620
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 3: worst spectator, like I that whole year, Like if you

621
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: see any photos of me on the sidelines, like everyone's like, oh,

622
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 3: Maddie was.

623
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Speaker 2: Amazing, she was so into it.

624
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 3: I was like, it's just because I'm such a terrible

625
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: spectator and I get like so involved. I literally was

626
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 3: more exhausted, I think, after watching than I was playing.

627
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 3: But I still remember the morning of the Grand Final,

628
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 3: I'm making the s and C do a gym session

629
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 3: with me so I can get rid of some pent

630
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 3: upe energy, and like I'm the mess in the Chaine rooms.

631
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 3: The rest of the team they're like so calm, and

632
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 3: there was just this kind of aura around the group

633
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 3: that day where you could just felt like something good.

634
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: Was in the air.

635
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 3: And I still remember the first out of past of

636
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: that entire game, and Paige Tadley, We'll talk about it

637
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: all the time, but she it was, you know, a

638
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: three pass play and Page on the end of the

639
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 3: circle feeds his long bomb into Sam and usually a

640
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: first and a pass, particularly in a final, you're like

641
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: throw it around a bit. You're a bit you know,

642
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 3: worried about what's going to happen. You don't want to

643
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 3: make an error. But as soon as that kind of

644
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 3: ball went in the ring, that first guy sat back

645
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 3: and was like, We've got this, Like it was just

646
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 3: you just knew from the beginning. And I even remember

647
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 3: with about ten minutes to go, I'm starting to kind

648
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: of like because obviously winning by a fair bit, and

649
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, can you start to celebrate or

650
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 3: can you not? And it probably wasn't until that five

651
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: minute slot where Brian stided to put on our bench

652
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 3: players and like a Nat Haythornthwaite came off. And we

653
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 3: had quite a funny year last year and that Nat.

654
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Speaker 3: We played the same position, and Nat was injured for

655
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 3: the first half of the season, and so when I

656
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 3: was still playing and then it literally was like clockwork,

657
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: and then she recovered and then I got injured, so

658
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 3: we I guess tagged team and played half the year

659
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 3: and so I remember like hugging her and we're both

660
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: sort of crying and it was just this like, yeah,

661
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 3: real special moment, and then to be able to run

662
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 3: out when we won. I've told this story a few times,

663
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: but it kind of the in terms of my rehab,

664
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: I just started running that week and so I was like,

665
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: all I wanted to be able to do was run

666
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: on and jump on the top of that pile. And

667
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 3: so I'll just remember going and I think I even

668
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 3: had to do like a little change of direction. I

669
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 3: was like, hope that because I'm not quite after that

670
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: in my rehab you had, but nothing was going to

671
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: stop me from like jumping on top of that pile.

672
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: And yeah, I think just they kind of talk about

673
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 3: things like, you know, significant injuries, and we had a

674
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: few of them last year and we reckon. We went

675
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 3: through about twenty players in a twelve ten squad team.

676
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 3: We just had one of those kind of years from

677
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 3: hell in a lot of ways, but years that obviously

678
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 3: you win a Grand Final, and so it was just

679
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: so special for so many reasons. One of the girls,

680
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 3: Sam Wallace, her father had passed away a few weeks later,

681
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: and he'd been kind of terminally ill with the whole

682
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 3: whole year, and so there was just so much emotion

683
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 3: in so many ways that it was just, Yeah, one

684
00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 3: of those kind of fairy tale years.

685
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: I remember stay throughout the year. I was like, God,

686
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: if we win this year, it's going to make for

687
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 2: a good movie. And then when we did that.

688
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: I remember just say that after the game, like we

689
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: need to make a movie out of this, Like so.

690
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still on one of the best days I've

691
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: ever had.

692
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: Very very cool. And then looking at the twenty season,

693
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: you guys were up in the hub. How did that

694
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: whole thing go? I think for a lot of people

695
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: looking on at a few different sports that had hubs

696
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: happening this year, it looked like somewhat glamorous because you're

697
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: up in Queensland and it's beautiful weather and you can

698
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: go to the beach and all that kind of thing.

699
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: But I think the reality of it was probably a

700
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: lot harder than what people saw.

701
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was sort of a mixing.

702
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 3: I think probably the lead up was almost the hardest part,

703
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: and I guess you guys would know that first hand,

704
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: with things getting canceled and everything like that. But you

705
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: sort of you had one plan, then that got changed,

706
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 3: and then within the next hour there's another plan, and

707
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: that gets changed. And we'd sort of been told that,

708
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: you know, this hub was probably going to happen, then

709
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 3: it wasn't going to happen, and then it was going

710
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 3: to happen, and then the latest the sort of most

711
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: concrete plan we'd got that was going to play in

712
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 3: Sydney for a few weeks against the teams that were

713
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 3: allowed into Sydney and then go up to Queensland. So

714
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: it was the weeks of leading into that first game

715
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: and then it's a Tuesday and we've all been in

716
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 3: the gym and then we all still remember standing around

717
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 3: this group and our CEOs come down and she's gone Queensland.

718
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: Of closing the borders news southwal I was tomorrow, like

719
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 3: everyone needs to get out, like we need to leave

720
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 3: by tomorrow morning. And so we've literally like, of course

721
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 3: we've still finished our training session and anyway then have

722
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: to sort of we've had about an hour to work

723
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 3: out logistics in terms of our right like bring everything

724
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: you can because obviously being sydneeded to Queensland, it wasn't

725
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 3: too fast. So they said we're going to get a truck,

726
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 3: We're going to put our gym stuff on there, bring

727
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: whatever you want. So if that was probably the biggest

728
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: mistakes that the coach made because girls bringing coffee machines.

729
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: We got like, wow, anything you could imagine that girls

730
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 3: just because panic packing, it was just like throw everything

731
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 3: and anything in but we said we actually thought it

732
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: was a blessing in disguise.

733
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: He didn't have much time to pack, otherwise it would

734
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: have been a disaster.

735
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, those first kind of I guess twenty four to

736
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: forty eight hours were pretty crazy, and then the players

737
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: all flew up, the coaches all drove up a day later,

738
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: like it was just mental. But then once we kind

739
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 3: of got there and you got settled in, and we

740
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: end up basing ourselves in the Sunshine Coast, so we

741
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: knew that we were sort of playing between Brisbane and

742
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: the Sunny Coast, and we figured in terms of lifestyle

743
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: and being able to, you know, have a bit of

744
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 3: freedom to do a bit more stuff, you know, within

745
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: the restrictions, that was going to be the best place

746
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: to be.

747
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: And so yeah, on one hand, you think.

748
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: Living in Malulabar Beach for two months or whatever it was,

749
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: And I guess for me personally, it was a pretty

750
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 3: easy transition away because I obviously already live away from home,

751
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: live with three of the other girls. So there's four

752
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: of us that lived together and you know, we already

753
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: are you know, like a family and know each other

754
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: so well. So that side of things in terms saying

755
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: goodbye to love ones was not really an issue, and

756
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: then just yet being around each other and being at

757
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: the beach, and it was kind of that novelty, particularly

758
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: for those first few weeks. But yeah, there were definitely

759
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: times where it was hard and playing midweek games and

760
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: having to get yourself up and about for every game,

761
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 3: and then even just you know, that idea of no escape.

762
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: And we had girls that left husbands like we had Briani. Actually,

763
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 3: our coach moved her whole family up. So she has

764
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: three boys, so four boys, twins, and so she's got

765
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 3: a four year old and four and he turned fifteen

766
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: in the hub, so she's brought her kids up that

767
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 3: are missing out on school, so they're home schooling. It

768
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 3: was kind of one of these bizarre situations. So I

769
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 3: still look back and think, like, so grateful for it,

770
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: and I think it's one of the kind of best

771
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 3: experiences I've had in terms of, you know, to be

772
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: able to tell your kids that you were one of

773
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: the players that got to go into these hubs. And

774
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: we were pretty lucky in terms of we weren't on

775
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: you know, really strict restrictions, like we were still allowed

776
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: to get a take away coffee and take away food

777
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: and go to the beach and sit outside and do

778
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff. So it still felt like

779
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: we had some you know, realm of freedom and normality

780
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: living on top of each other, and especially when you've

781
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 3: got fourteen girls together, there's bound to be a few

782
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 3: things happened along the way. Yeah, I still think that,

783
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: you know, to think that we were still able to

784
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: play sport and do what we loved. And I remember

785
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: talking a few girls from Albourne teams that were like, oh,

786
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: it's been really hard in terms of they weren't sure

787
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: at the start what to share on social media you

788
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: in that because obviously the rest of their states in

789
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: this horrible lockdown. And then it wasn't until they started

790
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: to get messages from back home saying, you know, you're

791
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 3: what we are living for at the moment. Being able

792
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 3: to watch you guys play on you know twice a

793
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 3: week is kind of the only shining light in our

794
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: year sort of thing. And so to hear those of

795
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: stories was like, yeah, you felt very very grateful that

796
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: you were able to do that and yet be able

797
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 3: to do what you loved and still be able to

798
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: kind of yeah, share that with your teammates as well, and.

799
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: You guys put together a good season and qualified for finals,

800
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: and then heading into the minus semi final against West

801
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: Coast Fever, they were down by nine at three quarter

802
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: time and then they came back to win sixty seven

803
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: to sixty two. Coming off winning the premiership the year before,

804
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: and I'm sure as a captain you so badly wanted

805
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: to go to the grand final and back it up

806
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: with the girls. What was that? What did that disappointment

807
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: feel like coming off that game?

808
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: That was really one of the hardest losses I think

809
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: I've ever had, and I think same with the girls

810
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: of that change room. Was just it was horrible, and

811
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: you just the one thing that we said after all

812
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: of that was like, if you can just bottle up

813
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: this feeling and know that you never ever ever want

814
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: to feel like this again, then that's got to be

815
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: motivation enough leading forwards. And I think we had a

816
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: pretty up and down season. We had talk about just

817
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: the other day that we had one game where we

818
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: literally won one quarter, yet we won the game. We

819
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: had this quarter where we shot I think it was

820
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: twenty seven goals, which is we broke records for sort

821
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: of Yeah, how many goals we shot. Yeah, we lost

822
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: every other quarter that we still won the game, and

823
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: so we were just very inconsistent. We had these patches

824
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 3: of absolute brilliance, but they were pretty limited. And I

825
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: think we had you know that you can make all

826
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: the excuse you on the world, and that we had

827
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: the soup shot coming, you had rolling subs, you had

828
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: multiple games a week and a lot, but at at

829
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 3: the end of the day, every team had that, and

830
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: so I don't know, we're probably still trying to figure

831
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: out what it was, whether it was you know, again

832
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: coming off the high of last year, or everything else

833
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: that sort of went on. But we definitely didn't play

834
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: as well as we could have or should have. And

835
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: if anything, I think this year you never want to

836
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: say you want to have a loss, but I think

837
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 3: for us it's going to be a huge growth heading

838
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: into twenty twenty one. And even in that game itself

839
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 3: to be up the way, you know, by nine goals

840
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: and I think we're up by ten or twelve at

841
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: one point, and we probably had that first half that

842
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: we played in that final was like this is how

843
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: we should play, this is how we can play, and

844
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: it was kind of like as if everything clicked for once,

845
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: but then the fact that it can so quickly derail

846
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: and credits the fever. I think they had a great

847
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: second half, and they pulled a few things out and

848
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: made a few changes and did a few things that

849
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: obviously set them up for the rest of the game.

850
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, we should never have been in that position

851
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: and lost that game. And that's where I think we'll

852
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: probably go back to the drawing board this year and yeah,

853
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: reflect on what happened and why it happened, and why

854
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: a lot of the things throughout the season happened, and yeah,

855
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: make sure that it makes us better heading into next season.

856
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: What do you reckon in those high pressure situations? Like

857
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 1: what's your mindset heading into into those situations? Obviously it's

858
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: a thing I found for me as an athlete, like

859
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: the more I'm exposed to those situations, the better I

860
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: get because you just get that get that exposure to it.

861
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: And maybe with younger players they don't necessarily have that

862
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: experience yet and it can feel so overwhelming all of

863
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: those things. What do you reckon something that you might

864
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: take out of that game, or what do you find

865
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: helps you in those really high pressure moments?

866
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because I had a fairly long career

867
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,959
Speaker 3: at this level but haven't actually played in a whole

868
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: lot of those hyper situations in terms of I've played

869
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: finals and I've done you know, state teams and Aussie

870
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: teams and that, but in terms of SSN level, my

871
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: time at Thunderbirds we weren't really in finals. My first

872
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: years at Swiss, we weren't really in finals. And well,

873
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: you've won close games and those sort of things, and

874
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 3: you know, we had a lot of those in our

875
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: time at the Swiss, winning by one goal and even

876
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 3: this year had that, but in terms of actually playing

877
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 3: finals and being in those positions, I hadn't done that much,

878
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: especially after not being able to do it last year.

879
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: And so I think for me it was a huge

880
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: growth that game, a just being able to experience what

881
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: it's like to be in a game like that, and

882
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 3: also from a captain perspective, and so I think, yeah,

883
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: for me, it was just about being able to be

884
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: that person on the court that can bring the team

885
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: up and knowing that you know, okay, well you've gone

886
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: from teng goal lead and now it's gone like that's

887
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 3: not good enough.

888
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: And I think for me it's fine that balance between.

889
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: Okay, like I was saying earlier, fight, you know, you

890
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: want to be able to perform yourself, but that does

891
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: come a point where you have to be the one

892
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: that steps up and brings the rest of the team along.

893
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 3: And I guess for me that's a big growth and

894
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 3: something that I'll probably work on leading into next year.

895
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 3: But I think when netbulls, well, it sounds so cliche,

896
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: but it's all about the process and it's so it's

897
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: such a simple game that's passing and catching and then

898
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: you get every second center pass. So if you can

899
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 3: just score off of your center pass, then you shouldn't

900
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 3: ever lose a game.

901
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: And it's easy.

902
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 3: It's easy when you say that, but I think sometimes

903
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 3: we overcomplicate it, and it's just in those clutch moments

904
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 3: and in those sort of situations, it's just being that

905
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 3: voice that's saying, you know, let's just go back to

906
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: the basics. And if you pass to her and she

907
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 3: catches it, and then she passes at her and she catches it,

908
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: you just got to get the ball through the ring

909
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: and your So yeah, I guess, especially this year with

910
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 3: the Super Shop, with the last few minutes that changes everything,

911
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: and I think we probably needed a better strategy in

912
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 3: those moments, and that's something that we will look back

913
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 3: on at the end of this year. For those of

914
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 3: whom that don't know, there's now a section in the

915
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: court kind of like a three point zone for basketball,

916
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: but last five minutes of each court, a shot from

917
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 3: in that area is worth two points.

918
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: And that changed games and that teams came.

919
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: We were up by ten goals in one game and

920
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: drew with a team that just bombed two pointers the

921
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:24,959
Speaker 3: whole time.

922
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: So there's little things like that.

923
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: And then as a captain as well, it's being able

924
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: to have that confidence to speak to your shooters and

925
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 3: let them know when they should be taking those shots

926
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: or not. And again it's that fine line between trusting

927
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: your players but also being able to be a leader

928
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 3: and give them that guidance. So yeah, I guess that

929
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: game is going to be huge, I think not only

930
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: for me, but for the whole team in terms of

931
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: learning and moving forwards.

932
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: I every week on the show, I have a segment

933
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: where I get a five year old and my grandma

934
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: to ask a question. So I'm going to play these

935
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: for you. The first one is from five year old

936
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: Freeda this one. I may have purposely shown her a

937
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: specific compilation on YouTube that you'll probably understand. What the question, Hi, magdie,

938
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: why do you've all the time for low red netble? Oh?

939
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 3: Well, I find you the answer, then I wouldn't probably

940
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: do it so much long winded answer. I grew up

941
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: with two brothers playing you play AFL, but that I've

942
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: been from adelaide A fel was everything playing mats up

943
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: in the backyard. The only way for me to win

944
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 3: was to literally dive on the ball. And so I

945
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 3: think my dad taught me how to tackle or get tackled,

946
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 3: and it was always kind of about putting your body

947
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 3: on the line, and that was kind of the mancher

948
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: in the Proud family. And I think I've maybe taken

949
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 3: that a little bit too literally in that if there's

950
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 3: a bullets or the ground that I want to get,

951
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 3: I'll do anything to get there. I can't probably speak

952
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: to the ones where I'll literally trip over my feet.

953
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 3: That's something that we probably need to go back to

954
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 3: the drawing board. And maybe it's a bit of a biomechanics.

955
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: Issue that I can't quite put one foot.

956
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: In front of the other It's definitely become a bit

957
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 3: of running joke now, especially when you put a YouTube

958
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 3: compilation of all those videos and it can go for

959
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: up to ten minutes.

960
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: I think, probably all right.

961
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: Question from Rannie him Maddie, who has been the most

962
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: influential person in your life so far?

963
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: That's a great question.

964
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 3: I heard her question with I think it was elier

965
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: and I was like, she gets deep, so ready for that.

966
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: Again?

967
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 3: Probably I answer to my parents. I think I'm very

968
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 3: fortunate to have had kind of the upbring I had,

969
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: and even I guess in terms of sport that my

970
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 3: dad had me throwing tennis before I could walk. My

971
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: parents both still play tennis every Saturday. Very sort of

972
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: sporty family. And you know, you think about going to

973
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: Netple at five o'clock in the morning when I was

974
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 3: training at Sassy and they dropped me there, and everything

975
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 3: they've done kind of along the way and to this

976
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: day still my number one supporters. Even living away from them,

977
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 3: I think it's probably brought us closer. I didn't think

978
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: you get much closer, but you know, you speak on

979
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 3: the phone every every day pretty much, and you know,

980
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 3: when I do go home, it's the best time so yeah,

981
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: I guess in terms of the sacrifice they made for

982
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: me my brothers when we were younger, the kind of upbringing

983
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 3: they gave us. But then even away from sport, kind

984
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: of the lessons they've taught me, particularly if my mum. Recently,

985
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 3: I'm getting involved in a bit of writing and writing

986
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 3: my book, and she's the person that I'll send every

987
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 3: bit of work to. And she's a journalist so does

988
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 3: editing and things like that, and you know, she'll be

989
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 3: sending back edits and does the whole thing that's twenty

990
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: five thousand words and will add the commas for me

991
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: or do all those sorts of things, and is the

992
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: person I'm calling every day to ask about, you know,

993
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 3: what should I do for this book or this person

994
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: or this chapter. And I think that's a real special

995
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: pond that we have and that we can have that

996
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 3: sporting bomb, but also with writing. And then yeah, even

997
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: my dad still talk to him every day, and yeah,

998
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: every traveling as kids. That's something that they did with

999
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: us all the time. And I think, yeah, the person

1000
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 3: I am today is all kind of credit to them.

1001
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 3: So definitely them.

1002
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: I want to get to your book. But I love

1003
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: I love the thing about parents. I think I've found

1004
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: the older I've got, the more I've come to appreciate

1005
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: the amount of hours that I know my parents put

1006
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: in for me and both my brothers with sport. Like

1007
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: I think they were talking the other day that they

1008
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: had a ridiculous number of years where they didn't have

1009
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: a weekend or a long weekend off and they just like,

1010
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: similar to you, the early mornings driving to trainings and

1011
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: when you're a kid, Like I didn't never hear my

1012
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: parents complain about it. I feel like I had a kid,

1013
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, okay.

1014
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: I literally you're not doing that.

1015
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: Support you doing once for I know, I don't think

1016
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: it's crazy to think that. I think probably everyone that

1017
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: makes it to this level you wouldn't been able to

1018
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 3: do it if you didn't have the parents that kind

1019
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 3: of gave those opportunities and let you do. I've even

1020
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: had stories of girls that you know, had to fund

1021
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: their own away trips and then they're probably those exceptions.

1022
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 3: But unless you had ye parents that were willing to

1023
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: support you and do that, then god, yeah, would not

1024
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: be here for sure.

1025
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. So to your book you've written a book.

1026
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 3: Yes, I actually brought you one as well, because I

1027
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: was like, something, it's a been a running joke that

1028
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, I always have one on me, and then

1029
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: I've been really slack lately and that like, I've had

1030
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: a few instances where I've been talking about it.

1031
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, do you have one on you? Yeah,

1032
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: and I haven't, but I.

1033
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: Brought amazing, So tell us a little bit about this book.

1034
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's always a shameless plug.

1035
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: I always bring it up.

1036
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, I definitely have no fear of talking about that.

1037
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 3: But yeah, writing's really been something that I've always enjoyed

1038
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 3: but never probably thought that I'd do anything with it. Obviously,

1039
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 3: as I said, mum was a journalist and growing up

1040
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: I used to write stories and do all that. But

1041
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 3: then even you know, during school loved English, but after

1042
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 3: school sort of a marketing degree and never really thought

1043
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 3: much of making myself a writer. And it wasn't until

1044
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: i got back from a world yieth cup that i'd yeah,

1045
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 3: just deferred uni I had a bit of time off,

1046
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 3: and I'd always kind of had this idea of writing

1047
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: a book, and I'd probably started at about ten and

1048
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 3: it's never kind of persisted with it. And as a

1049
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: kid I grew up loving Specky McGee. I don't know

1050
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: if you've heard it was a book about a young

1051
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: boy playing football AFL and written by Gary Lyon and

1052
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 3: Felice Aerena, And anyway, read them cover to cover and

1053
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 3: kind of found there was a bit of a gap

1054
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: in the market for books for young girls, particularly for netball,

1055
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: and I found that without kind of I don't know,

1056
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 3: speaking out of school, but they were a lot about

1057
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 3: dancing or ballet, and there weren't many about actual, you know,

1058
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: girls playing netball, team sports or anything like that. And

1059
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 3: so I kind of thought, why not write something that

1060
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: I would have liked to have read when I was

1061
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: a kid, And again, as nerd as it sounds, kind

1062
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: of wrote it just for fun and there's a bit

1063
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: of an escape and didn't sort of think that anything

1064
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 3: would happen.

1065
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: And again comes back to mum.

1066
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: She sort of asked what I was doing always on

1067
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 3: my laptop and ended up sort of sharing a bit

1068
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: of it with her when I'd written maybe half of it,

1069
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: and she was really the one that said, it's actually

1070
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 3: not too bad, Like I think you should keep going

1071
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: with this and maybe we can see what happens. And yeah,

1072
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: sort of wrote it probably the end of twenty fourteen

1073
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 3: is when I finished it, and they didn't get published

1074
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 3: until twenty eighteen.

1075
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, very very long process.

1076
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 3: And that's one thing it's taught me is that you

1077
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 3: have to be patient because nothing happens very.

1078
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: Fast in the literary world.

1079
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess I've said before, like something I'm

1080
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: very passionate about is young girls sort of playing sport

1081
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: and also, you know, having an education. And I think

1082
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: that this book's about a young girl playing netbul and

1083
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 3: starting high school, and I think it's that transition from

1084
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: primary school to high school that can be pretty critical

1085
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: in a young girl's life. And I think I heard

1086
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: you and Elliott talking about it in terms of when

1087
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 3: you're a teenager, having sport as a particularly as a girl,

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00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: is I think life saving and life changing. And I

1089
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: don't think I would have, you know, enjoyed school so

1090
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 3: much like I missed school to this day because I

1091
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 3: loved it so much. But I think that was because

1092
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 3: you played sport with your friends and you had those

1093
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 3: kind of relationships and that escape. And so yeah, I

1094
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: always say that if I can get young girls playing

1095
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 3: sport out of reading that book, then that's a tick.

1096
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: But then on the flip side, being able to get

1097
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 3: young girls to read, and I think someone is a

1098
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 3: bit of a disconnect between if you play sport you're

1099
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 3: not the person that reads, or if you read, you're

1100
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,479
Speaker 3: not the type of person that plays sport. And it's like, well,

1101
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 3: you can actually do both. And I always love I

1102
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: get some messages from mums or teachers or say that

1103
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: you know, oh, my daughter she hates reading, but you know,

1104
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 3: she read your book cover to cover and a night,

1105
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: and then or on the flip side, you got a

1106
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 3: one that says, oh, my dad loves reading and she

1107
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: read your book, but now she wants to play netball,

1108
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: and yeah, just you know, if you can do that

1109
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 3: to one or two people, then I feel like I've

1110
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: kind of done my job. Yea, now I'm gone Union,

1111
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 3: done the Masters of Creative Writing, so hoping I can

1112
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 3: write a few more books. I've written the sequel actually

1113
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 3: to Grace in the Court, so waiting for that to

1114
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: come out, and then have a few other little projects

1115
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 3: in the works. But yeah, something that I guess I

1116
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 3: didn't didn't think could. I guess it's still probably not

1117
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: a career unless you're JK Rowling, But.

1118
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: It's run.

1119
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: But definitely a little a little passion I got outside

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00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 3: of that for at least.

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00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: That's really cool and I love the way you've kind

1122
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: of been able to combine the two with with the

1123
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: education side and the sports site. What do you reckon

1124
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: for young girls could be the biggest change, whether that's

1125
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: from government policy level or organizational level in terms of

1126
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: netball or as sport across a whole is across Australia,

1127
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: what do you think the biggest change could be. I mean,

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00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: that's very difficult.

1129
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 3: It's tough, and I think, like I think in terms

1130
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: of women's sport, like it's already come such a long way,

1131
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: and I think the fact that you know, girls now

1132
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 3: have a choice, I think that's probably the biggest thing

1133
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: that's come with a FLW and and everything like that.

1134
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you'd love to get the W knocked off

1135
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 3: the end, but I think you know, the fact that

1136
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 3: a girl can now have the choice of it's not

1137
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: just maybe it was netbul or tennis or swimming or whatever.

1138
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 3: You've now got an array of sports and you actually

1139
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: have them in the limelight as well. I think that's

1140
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 3: probably what the biggest thing is you can't be what

1141
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 3: you can't see. And I know that's probably something has

1142
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 3: said a lot, but it comes toably down to that

1143
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 3: TV coverage and even I know I used to talk

1144
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: about it, probably more in later years, probably coming better now,

1145
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: but it was in terms of getting athletes to be

1146
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: able to go to schools and visit schools. And it

1147
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I remember this story. Someone said, oh,

1148
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: girls play sport too, because the only people that we've

1149
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: had come visit our school that have been you know, athletes,

1150
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: have been men. And it was like, well, often female

1151
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: athletes can't go to schools because during that time they

1152
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,959
Speaker 3: might have to work, or they might be training before

1153
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 3: and after hours, or doing those sorts of things. So

1154
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: I guess the more you can get you know, those

1155
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: role models out into the world and out on screens

1156
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: or in the paper and I've heard you talk about that,

1157
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 3: and yeah, the more exposed that young girls are to that,

1158
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: then that's going to make them aspire to be that

1159
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 3: and actually know that it is a possibility that a

1160
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: young girl can be a professional athlete. It's not that

1161
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: you know, you can just play sport and then have

1162
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: another job you can do That is huge, and there's

1163
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 3: even like, just coming out of this COVID time, I

1164
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 3: do a bit of work with this team Girls, which

1165
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 3: is part of Netbelle, and it's all about you know,

1166
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: young girls when they get to I think fifteen, there's

1167
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 3: like a fifty percent chance that they'll stop playing sport.

1168
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 3: And then apparently there's a survey that was done around

1169
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 3: this COVID time and it was like, if how many

1170
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 3: young girls are going to go back to sport, and

1171
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: about fifty percent that they wouldn't, And it was like

1172
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: and then of them, fifty per cent that there's nothing

1173
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: that could happen that could change their mind, and it

1174
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 3: was the fact that obviously not having that exposure has

1175
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 3: meant that they don't want to come back. So yeah,

1176
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 3: I just think the more that young girls can know

1177
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: it's a reality and see it and it can be

1178
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 3: in front of them and it's not that yeah, all

1179
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 3: you see is male sport that can will trickle down

1180
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: and help the young ones.

1181
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I think it's pretty exciting to see where

1182
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: we can go in the future. And I think players

1183
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: like you and a lot of the girls in super

1184
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: netball and across the whole range A're doing different sports

1185
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: are doing pretty incredible things for the next generations. All right.

1186
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: To finish up, I've got three would you rather questions

1187
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: for you? All right? The serious one to start. Number

1188
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: one in a Netball World Cup, would you rather win

1189
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: silver and you play the best game of your career

1190
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: or win gold and you play the worst game of

1191
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: your career?

1192
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: One win gold.

1193
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: I think that they even decid last year was like

1194
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 3: I wasn't on the core for that Grand Fighter, but

1195
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 3: I still felt like I won. So no matter what happens,

1196
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,959
Speaker 3: you still ye one hundred percent with it, all right?

1197
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: Number two? Would you rather have a VIP all access

1198
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: pass to meet Justin Bieber? Or one direction if they

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00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: were still together?

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00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 3: Oh see, that's just so hard on so many levels,

1201
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 3: because with one direction you're getting access to five or

1202
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 3: as with Justin you're only getting one.

1203
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: But then this is the thing.

1204
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 3: I do have a big game, but I know that

1205
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: if I've got in a room with either of them,

1206
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: I would become a mute, which is very unlikely, I

1207
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 3: think at the moment, just because I'm in such Justin

1208
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: Bieber phase, I'd have to say him. Although I'm on

1209
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 3: a big tailor swift phase of the moment as well. Okay,

1210
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 3: she got had the thing come out on Disney Plus

1211
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 3: last night that everyone should watch. But yeah, Justin zoeg

1212
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: a lot for me at the moment, So I'll go

1213
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 3: Justin and I am actually twenty six, I'm not sixteens.

1214
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: I love it. Number three, would you rather have fingers

1215
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: as long as your legs or legs as long as

1216
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: your fingers?

1217
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: I guess in terms of netball, having fingers that are

1218
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 3: as long as my legs could be very handy. I'd

1219
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: have a good pass, Whereas if I had no fingers

1220
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 3: for legs, then I'd be terrible. I think I'm gonna

1221
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: have to go fingers as long as legs. It'd be inconvenient,

1222
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 3: but it would.

1223
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a true elite athlete.

1224
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: Reach food.

1225
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: And before we finish up, where can people find you

1226
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: on Instagram? Oh?

1227
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: Instagram is just very simple at Maddie Proud. And I've

1228
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: also got a website if you want to buy Grace

1229
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 3: on the Court. Yeah, manpad dot com.

1230
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: So there another plug? Yeah, perfect.

1231
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you so much for coming on.

1232
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: I had so much fun having a chat with you.

1233
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: You're full of life and energy and it was really

1234
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: cool to learn all about what you went through with

1235
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: your injury and the resilience you developed from that. But still,

1236
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty incredible the way that you were

1237
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: still able to lead a team and not be so

1238
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: caught up in the hardships of what you're facing and

1239
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: still be able to achieve that. And yeah, can't wait

1240
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: to see what happens with the Diamonds and heading into

1241
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: next year. So yeah, good luck with all of that,

1242
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: and can't wait to keep watching.

1243
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you for having me. I

1244
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: feel very privileged.

1245
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. We'll catch you on the

1246
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: next episode. You can find us on Instagram at the

1247
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: FEMA Athlete Project.