1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Jum mission with Jones and Amanda. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 2: It was sad to wake up this morning to the 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: news that Charlie What's the drummer from the Rolling Stones 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: had passed away the. 5 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 3: Age of eighty. He hadn't been well recently. He wasn't 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 3: going to do the latest tour of them. The rest 7 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 3: of them were. 8 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: It's amazing, isn't it. 9 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 4: It's amazing. 10 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: I was reading about Keith Richards in his book Keith 11 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: Richard's Life by Keith Richards, and he said, he doesn't perform. 12 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 4: He doesn't perform for you. He doesn't perform for the money. 13 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 4: He just does it for himself. That's his thing. 14 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, they love it, he loves it. They love it. 15 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 3: And well, I've told you the story before that Harley's 16 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: father could have been in the Rolling Stones. 17 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 4: That's right. It was an amplifier thing something. 18 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 3: What happened was that Harley's dad made amplifiers. Living in England. 19 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: Harley's dad made amplifiers for Bill Wyman, and Bill Wyman 20 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 3: has gone on to say many times the only reason 21 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: he got into the Rolling Stones was because he had 22 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: his own amplifiers. 23 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: Should have been because of Oliver Rhodes. That's Harley's dad 24 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: Rhodes Oliver, Rhodse. 25 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: Oliver, No, no, I've extrap Lady said I got the 26 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: job because I had the amps, my own ams. Harley's 27 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: dad made him those amps. It doesn't take much thinking 28 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: to suddenly have Harley's father in the Rolling Stones, don't 29 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: you think? 30 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: Direct line? 31 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 5: Oh? 32 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 3: Come on, can I be any clearer? Anyway, he didn't 33 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: get in there, and the others did. But this is 34 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: interesting that Charlie was saying this earlier. He's been with 35 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: the band since nineteen sixty three. He married in sixty two. 36 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 3: He's a stayer, stayed with the same band, stayed with 37 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 3: the same wife. 38 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: He was the only professional musician in the band, so 39 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: he was playing in a jazz band and he wasn't 40 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: really interested in joining a rock band. And Keith Richards 41 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: had such a vibe on Charlie said, look what we've 42 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: got to do. We've got to get this guy in 43 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: our band because he's so good. Let's get him and 44 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: we'll pay him. So he was the only guy that 45 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: was getting paid in the band. And there was a 46 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: point where they'd run out of money and he said, okay, 47 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: fellas has been good knowing it and he just left them. 48 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 4: He was very pragmatic that way. 49 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, didn't he think the band would last a year? 50 00:01:59,280 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: And that a year? 51 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 4: He said, you know, and here they are sixty years later. 52 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: Reason it eighty. 53 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: And it's hard to imagine the band without him. And 54 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: it's often said that Keith and Mick feuded over everything. 55 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: The one thing that they constantly agreed on was the 56 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: adoration of Charlie Wattson. 57 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 4: Also his love of his drum kit. He had this 58 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 4: Gretch drum kit that he had for forever. 59 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: Hear how he explains, like, so this drum kit came 60 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 2: from the fifties, but he inherited it in the seventies. 61 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 5: Six or seven Gretch with a round badge, which those 62 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 5: who collect them is quite important. This particular mate and 63 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 5: drums were like what everybody loved to use. In the 64 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 5: early seventies. I was doing a session for Ronnie Wood 65 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 5: in Los Angeles, one of his many solo epics, and 66 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 5: he hired a drum kit from sir and the boy 67 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 5: that got it bought this along, which is like his 68 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 5: favorite one in the place, and I fell in. 69 00:02:59,520 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: Love with it. 70 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 5: I've had it ever since and I use it all 71 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 5: the time. 72 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 3: One drum kit, one bad, one bad with a drum kit? 73 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: Do you have to replace the skins? 74 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: Do I get all droopy? 75 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 3: Not your actual skins, but the drum like micking Keith. 76 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: Bulldog clip at the back of the neck. 77 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: I would say that the head, it's called. 78 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 4: The drum head. 79 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 3: And you know he was a major collector of cars, 80 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: even though he didn't dry it. 81 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: He just like to look at them. What else you're 82 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: going to spend your money on? Really? How much money? 83 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: You get? So much money, that's what you do. 84 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: But that jazz drumming was so iconic on so many songs, 85 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: and I've separated the just the drum tracks. 86 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 4: Here you guess the song? Okay, I'll put this. 87 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 6: On that satisfaction No, how can you taste so good now? 88 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: Brown sugar? 89 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? 90 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: Could you never sing it again? Please? 91 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 4: What about this one? Miss m hm? How good is he? 92 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: He didn't look like he had big bulky arms. 93 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 4: He doesn't have the rob rob Hurst has got wiry. 94 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: Arms, big bulky ones. I think I think he's got 95 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: big guns, hasn't he. I don't think Charlie had big guns. 96 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 4: He's wiry. 97 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: He was Life Jonesy and Amanda's