WEBVTT - How To Make Sure Your Ex Never Gets Over You 💔

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Flex and Frooms catch Up podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sitting here in the flexing Froom studio and next to

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<v Speaker 2>me is a Dell PC. Have I seen a PC

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<v Speaker 2>since high school? No? I haven't. Okay, and this dell

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<v Speaker 2>has blood or some other red substance splattered on it.

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<v Speaker 2>As you know, I'm living in Squala Mansion. However, when

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<v Speaker 2>I come to my place of employment, I want it

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<v Speaker 2>to be clean, okay, and it's not. So Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's like free crying for help and who's gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, Hello, I'm living in Squaler mansion. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>looking good. Bran need a What do you need babe?

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<v Speaker 1>You want to check?

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<v Speaker 2>Nah? I want to learn how to spend money on myself.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, watch this space more anden do to massages day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get one this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just too busy.

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<v Speaker 1>Shut up somehow I disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of the podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>Keeter Flex and Fromes Flex and Firms. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest skills you can learn as someone who uses the Internet,

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<v Speaker 1>namely social media, namely TikTok is to be discerning. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like a lot of young people wouldn't think they

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<v Speaker 1>have a problem with fake news up until the creation

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<v Speaker 1>of TikTok, because on Facebook, it's really quite easy to

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<v Speaker 1>see when an article wasn't reputable or when the source

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't reputable when it was opinion piece versus an actual,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, actual news story. But on TikTok, there's something

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<v Speaker 1>about the way that people speak with so much authority

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<v Speaker 1>and certainty and things they've never experienced, or when they

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<v Speaker 1>frame their personal experience as gold standards, flex and from

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<v Speaker 1>show exactly where you find yourself up and to think, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>do I think that? Or is this right? In comes

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<v Speaker 1>this TikTok creator called Dan Henchel, who has this amazing

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<v Speaker 1>ability to, I guess, give us the most manipulative but

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<v Speaker 1>somehow helpful dating advice. I recommend everybody follow him now

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<v Speaker 1>before we listen to what he has to say. Peah,

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<v Speaker 1>play the tape, DJs.

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<v Speaker 3>This is how I make sure my exes never get

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<v Speaker 3>over me. At the beginning of every relationship, I buy

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<v Speaker 3>a big pack of birthday candles. Every time we share

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<v Speaker 3>a happy moment together, I secretly blow one out. It's

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<v Speaker 3>birthday candles. Blowing out birthday candles is a distinct smell

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<v Speaker 3>that everyone recognizes. By conditioning them to associate this smell

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<v Speaker 3>with our relationship every birthday they celebrate in the future,

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<v Speaker 3>when they blow out the candles, they'll think about me.

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<v Speaker 2>That is powerful magnetic perspective manipulation technique that could possibly

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<v Speaker 2>be used in the CIA.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the kind of manipulation. I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>none of that everyday good morning texts? You know you

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<v Speaker 1>know what they say when you're trying to instill some

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<v Speaker 1>good behavior into someone, No, when you're trying to instill

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<v Speaker 1>behavior into someone that you want, or when you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to form an attachment with someone in an early stage

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<v Speaker 1>where the relationship is quite tumultuous and you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how they feel. You need to create a habit and

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<v Speaker 1>then break it. So let's say you get into the

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<v Speaker 1>habit of always talking six pm every day, do that

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<v Speaker 1>consistently for four days, and then don't reach out for

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<v Speaker 1>five days. WHOA, They'll be yearning for you. They'll be like,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened? Did I do something wrong? I'm really missing them?

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<v Speaker 1>And when you come back in, you start the habit

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<v Speaker 1>again like nothing changed. That is low level manipulation. This

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<v Speaker 1>stuff incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what we need to be working towards as women.

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<v Speaker 1>In the world, as women in STEM, as women in

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<v Speaker 1>STEM and media. This is the level of manipulation we

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<v Speaker 1>need to get to because we've been bamboozled for too long.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to start making sure these things work for us,

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<v Speaker 1>not against us. So clinical trial, we're gonna see birthday

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<v Speaker 1>Kendles salt out nationwide and for good reason. If anybody

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<v Speaker 1>tries it, let me know I'm not above it for

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<v Speaker 1>science and then for the plot neither.

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<v Speaker 2>Thru meno through me boo, mummy, let smile. Listening to

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<v Speaker 2>flex and rooms, I'm kata Flexi. I'm now going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you how to deal with the know it all.

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<v Speaker 2>We all have no it alls in our life and

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<v Speaker 2>it's really important to know how to deal with them,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't that right, Brookie?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you ah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting bullied in the studio anyway. You told us

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<v Speaker 2>what was your technique the other day about saying you're right?

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<v Speaker 1>So when somebody tells you something that you already know,

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<v Speaker 1>a fact, a new story, instead of saying I know

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<v Speaker 1>it is polite and customary to say you're right. That

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<v Speaker 1>did happen. You're right, I did see that. You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>that was such a good party. You're right. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that restaurant. I know, though it is factually correct, is impolite?

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<v Speaker 2>I love this. It's a little tiny loophole that you

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<v Speaker 2>just put in the back pocket of conversation. I've taken

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<v Speaker 2>a one step further, obviously and consulted Wiki House the

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<v Speaker 2>one up. You're right, You're right, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you how to deal with the know it all.

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<v Speaker 2>This is super important. We've got no it alls all

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<v Speaker 2>over offices all over Australia and they need to be

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<v Speaker 2>dealt with appropriately, preferably not using HR because HR is

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<v Speaker 2>not real and they have the company's best interest at heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Just remember that. Okay, here are a few techniques when

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<v Speaker 2>you're dealing with a nod all. Number one, try to

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<v Speaker 2>be understanding. You have to empathize because whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>it's a personality disorder, the need for recess, you've admiration

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<v Speaker 2>or arrogance, nod ales have issues that have to be addressed.

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<v Speaker 2>So you just need to empathize with nodles. Okay, avoid

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<v Speaker 2>the impulsive fight or flight response because you need to

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<v Speaker 2>understand that differences between people will always exist. Also, the

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<v Speaker 2>route to all understanding is respect, so you need to

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<v Speaker 2>show them respect when perhaps they're not showing it to you,

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<v Speaker 2>which is obviously difficult. Number two, you must think first

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<v Speaker 2>before responding, so as you know, we maybe want to

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<v Speaker 2>say I know, I know, so you can think. You

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<v Speaker 2>can deploy or your right straight away, or you can

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<v Speaker 2>just take a seat and have a think. It's okay

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<v Speaker 2>if people think you move slowly, except it because it's

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<v Speaker 2>better than aggravating situation. Typically, taking time to think about

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<v Speaker 2>the situation might even in greet might even increase your

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<v Speaker 2>confidence in dealing with somebody who is a know it all.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you think prevents saying stupid things that destroy friendships,

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<v Speaker 2>start fights, or create awkward situations, it does nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>solve your issues with a know it all. And also

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<v Speaker 2>being thoughtful gets you more respect. It's like people who

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<v Speaker 2>don't talk much actually come across smarter and cooler. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't relate, and number three lead by example.

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<v Speaker 1>They should have started with that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Loops. See, don't be afraid to say I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>around and know it all? Well, what's happening with my voice?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you hear that yeah, you know when you sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>eat chocolate and then it like changes your vocal cords.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna keep it because I think it sounds cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sounding slimmy.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that have some water, babe? I will say, saying

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You can also build trust by demonstrating openness, vulnerability,

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<v Speaker 2>and honesty. However, I disagree with that point. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you should not say I don't know around and all.

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<v Speaker 1>That feels like a trap.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to just hit them with a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>kindness and respect.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say. One thing that doesn't get brought up

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<v Speaker 1>a lot when you're dealing with someone that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to deal with is just not having the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to feel, as someone who encouraged conversation from

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<v Speaker 1>people a lot, that I should give everybody a fair go.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I found is that it usually lives. It

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<v Speaker 1>usually leaves them feeling really understood and me feeling really activated.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so sometimes you just see the hidden with

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<v Speaker 1>a oh, that's really awesome, and then leave.

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<v Speaker 2>I love learning more things about you to know when

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing it to me, which is never because you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have no I have a lot of patience for you.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a good thing to have because you see

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<v Speaker 1>in action, like you've obviously seen me in situations where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dealing with someone that I am an acquaintance with

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to talk to you, I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>really polite and fully extroverted, and then I leave. And

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<v Speaker 1>then on the adverse, when we're dealing with someone who

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<v Speaker 1>has a prickly personality, if I'm not being my most

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<v Speaker 1>esteemed self, I will take the bait and be an animal.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's not hot.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Have got to learn to walk away sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've ever seen you go full tropo.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not in your wheelhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't go full tropo, but I can hurt a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling with very little effort. And that's the issue, because

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I'm like, I haven't even gotten to my

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<v Speaker 1>point yet, and I'm seeing the eyes of water, which

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want. I don't want that.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are some people so good at that?

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<v Speaker 1>Crying on command?

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<v Speaker 2>No, making others feel the need to cry No, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back to it. This is flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>We are physically in front of each other right now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's such a pleasure. And if I lift my arms

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<v Speaker 2>above my head like so arms are above, you will

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<v Speaker 2>set on my left arm there is a bandage.

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<v Speaker 1>Not even a bandage, a bloody bandage with bruising and

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<v Speaker 1>mottled skin on your bicep.

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<v Speaker 2>On my bicep, so on the inside of my arm.

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<v Speaker 2>I recently had a procedure yesterday which involved getting my

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<v Speaker 2>implanon out. Do you know what an implanent on is? FLEXI,

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<v Speaker 2>please let me know. An implanon is a small plastic device.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say it's three centimeters long and about yay thick,

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<v Speaker 2>so very very tiny, almost looks like a vain thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a baby little rod, a little rod. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What they do is they put the rod inside of

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<v Speaker 2>your arm and it slowly releases progesterone. Progesterone is a

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<v Speaker 2>hormone that people who ovulate get alongside estrogen, and it

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<v Speaker 2>helps you. How do you say, like line the uterus

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<v Speaker 2>or do something like that. And I am at the

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<v Speaker 2>age now where I thought, I've had three implan ons, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to get them every three years. So

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<v Speaker 2>I've been on this thing for many many.

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<v Speaker 1>Early ado I was an all coming up to a decade.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally, whoa, and sorry if you don't like talking about blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Who cares babies is about you?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't had my period in about seven years or

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<v Speaker 2>something yet, like I, it can stop your period in

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<v Speaker 2>some women. And so I got it out because I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to see is my body bodying? What's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was having all of these conversations with my friends,

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<v Speaker 2>like I went to the doctor obviously to talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>because she was the person who took it out. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, hand on heart a single person besides

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<v Speaker 2>someone in our team here at KITA. Why sorry, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't because Brookie is going to jump in and say

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<v Speaker 2>that your own contraception.

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<v Speaker 1>No I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you said you take the pill supposed to,

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<v Speaker 2>but she doesn't remember exactly. So there's only half of

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<v Speaker 2>a person. Because let's say Brookie takes it half a time.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be real, we don't take it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, bo, he's not taking the conception. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>a single person in my life that takes contraception. M

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know a single person with the ROD. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know anyone who takes the pill. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>that's bottom of the barrel. I don't know anyone in

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<v Speaker 2>the mini pill. No, I will say that with my chest,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the bottom of the barrel. In terms of like

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<v Speaker 2>what people deem, you know, people who don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>take your interception, I usually find that the big pill

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<v Speaker 2>is the one that like has scarred them more turned

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<v Speaker 2>them off. So I want to discuss why is it

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<v Speaker 2>that everyone is going off contraception. I say everyone broadly,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone that I know, Miss Frimiani. So because I've been

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<v Speaker 2>on this rod for so many years, I have found

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<v Speaker 2>it amazing. So in terms of my journey towards contraception,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna could you pass down a bottle please?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oftentimes on the Flex and Froom show, I need to

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<v Speaker 2>check that the mouth is not mouthing too hard. I

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<v Speaker 2>see my bottle, the Kleiner Strata water bottle keeping us.

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<v Speaker 2>I see for hours. It's amazing. So I started off

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<v Speaker 2>probably sixteen or seventeen on the pill. Okay, that's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you're encouraged to go on it. The

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<v Speaker 2>doctors had gone it. Maybe I think it was to

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<v Speaker 2>do with my skin.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So when you when we had a brief conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>we shouldn't do this, but for me and I talk, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so put us in jail together, preferably this cells, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the cells we can annoy everyone. When Freeman asked me

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<v Speaker 1>if I'd used any kind of contraception, I said no,

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<v Speaker 1>And I said I wasn't surprised that she had, because

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<v Speaker 1>when I was growing up, it was very Caucasian law

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<v Speaker 1>to be sixteen and on the pill for skin. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen on the pill for skin. That was the law.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always thought it strange that for me it

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<v Speaker 1>was the habitual thing, like what is it about the

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<v Speaker 1>pill that was going to help you more than eating

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<v Speaker 1>differently or a skincare routine or whatever it might have been.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed like such an extreme thing to do at

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<v Speaker 1>that age, but it was like a a it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a trend, and I in my adulthood I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps it just is maybe an awareness or not even awareness.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know how parents always think that you're more

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<v Speaker 1>promiscuous than you are, or they think the worst case scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>Parent's like I don't want a pregnant tink daughter. I

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<v Speaker 1>always think it's that wrapped up in a skin concern

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<v Speaker 1>situation because realistically there are other solutions. Maybe I'm being

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<v Speaker 1>a hater.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I will say there is some elements of truth

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<v Speaker 2>in what you're saying. I was always very open with

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<v Speaker 2>my parents about my activity. I'm obviously not in graphic detail,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a pretty good show. So I met this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there was never any like shame or secrecy around

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. So mine really was for my skin,

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<v Speaker 2>but it ended up didn't work, like made my migraines

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<v Speaker 2>worse because it obviously like wow, it changes your hormones

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<v Speaker 2>vy Obby, the istrojen levels were wilding, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>did end up going on row accutane, which we also

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<v Speaker 2>spoke about earlier. Is that really even more harsh than

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<v Speaker 2>being on the pill? I think it technically is if

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<v Speaker 2>we're going from a pharmaceutical lens, like you can't go

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<v Speaker 2>in the sun. My lips at the U twel formal

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<v Speaker 2>chapped to pieces to pieces actually like corners lacks the

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<v Speaker 2>joker corners of the mouth. It was really hard. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. As you know, I've been listening to

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<v Speaker 2>Human Lab podcast. Someone messaged me after I posted about him,

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<v Speaker 2>saying that they listened to him to go to sleep

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a great way to go to sleep because

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<v Speaker 2>he very much like keeps a solid tone, has quite

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<v Speaker 2>a nice voice, authoritative kind of voice, almost, which I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like sometimes if I'm listening to podcasts and people

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<v Speaker 2>are having a conversation, I'm imagining what I would say back,

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<v Speaker 2>which I even do for our own podcast, because obviously

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<v Speaker 2>I dissociate when I'm in the studio. And he interviewed

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<v Speaker 2>this doctor. I'm actually going to get her name, because

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<v Speaker 2>I keep saying I don't actually name her, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>not giving.

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<v Speaker 1>Free press is necessary in this instance.

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<v Speaker 2>Humanman lab fertility. So he was speaking to an American

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<v Speaker 2>woman called doctor Sarah Gottfried, Sarah Gottfried, Saira, and she

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<v Speaker 2>was dispelling all of these myths around the pill. She

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<v Speaker 2>was quite flex mummy pilled. Actually, she was saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of women, I just put on the

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<v Speaker 2>pill at this really young age for all of these

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<v Speaker 2>reasons that aren't necessarily helpful because the pill has all

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<v Speaker 2>these other side effects, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Cure is not fitting the symptoms facts.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't remember exactly what she said, but I

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<v Speaker 2>recommend going human lab Sarah Sarah Gottfried, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to like make this a little well, I could

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<v Speaker 2>be could be totally wrong. I actually remember, but like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to give the wrong men in medical device.

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<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of people out here might assume

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm a doctor, given my and general way of speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Down disposition. It gives how do you say.

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<v Speaker 2>Highly educated ten years of hex down the drain. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pretty sure she was saying that it was.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you can't paraphrase, want hear more about your experience? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear about you. I want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>about paraphrase.

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<v Speaker 2>I paraphrase like exactly what she didn't say. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>I'm worried. I'm not worried about I want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then tell me more about your experience. I want here

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<v Speaker 1>about the pain levels, getting it invested, getting it out, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, so this like actual trigger warning for this

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<v Speaker 2>beer because it's gross. So when you get implanent on

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<v Speaker 2>taking what for this? Like sorry, general, you never use

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<v Speaker 2>a life trigger warning like blood procedure, insertion of objects,

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<v Speaker 2>foreign objects. So to get the implent in, they put

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<v Speaker 2>you on a bed in the doctor, they put local

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<v Speaker 2>anesthetic into your upper arm. Mine is on my left arm,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think they put it in the non dominant arm.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they put it they get the little rod and

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<v Speaker 2>they poke cut a skin and then poke it in.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck only knows how they do it. I don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>Brookie is squealing.

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<v Speaker 1>Shouting you like a piece of meat, because I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's how you do it. If I wanted to like

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<v Speaker 1>tuck some garlic and some rosemary into it's just like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It is though. Yeah, so you kind of have to, like,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, I don't want to continue saying dissociating

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm using it in jest, but you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>have to like project somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is busy your mind?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then like obviously I've had it in and

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<v Speaker 2>out three times, so then when you get it out

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time, it was so again, No, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not even gonna say traumatic, but it was definitely an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting you'd say it if it was now. I wasn't traumatic.

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<v Speaker 1>It affectively you physically negatively.

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<v Speaker 2>For five minutes. Yes, okay, it can be very like

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<v Speaker 2>your skin encapsulates around it and form scar tissue. And

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<v Speaker 2>so to get it out, there was some yanking involved.

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<v Speaker 2>There was some like foot on the bed pulling?

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<v Speaker 1>Did she did? She grunt as she was doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>There was just like so you can't feel anything because

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<v Speaker 2>you're under anesthetic.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound labor intensive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was like so like wrap it up there,

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<v Speaker 2>She's literally like leg up on the bed like yanking. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>So this time I got it out. I'm currently not

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<v Speaker 2>on contraception.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, So do you feel differently?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I got it out yesterday. Oh yeah, but like

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<v Speaker 2>so just waiting differently? Do I feel differently already? I

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<v Speaker 2>feel really excited. I'm in this stage of my life

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<v Speaker 2>around like I trust myself and I trust my body,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's taken me a little while to like I've

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<v Speaker 2>gone astray in past times, like listening to my body

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<v Speaker 2>for certain things, and so this is like a part

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<v Speaker 2>of me, you know, getting a period. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you get older and you're like, oh, this is actually

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<v Speaker 2>an indication of health. It's not this annoying thing like fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to use a tampon. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have to go in. Do I even remember

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<v Speaker 2>how to use a tampon? I don't think. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>kind of scared, like am I going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>moon cup? Girly, I'm gonna have to give it the show,

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<v Speaker 2>give it a go, so watch this space. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure I'll go fully down the period discussion route right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously it's quite a new subject for me, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just excited to be I want to use that cycle calculator. Lap.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta just to be in on the beach flap

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<v Speaker 1>error now, flap errand laidy.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to get involved. But yeah, you really,

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<v Speaker 2>you really do get me on the flop and say

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<v Speaker 2>ear I want I want to feel things. Who knows

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<v Speaker 2>I might be off it for six months and think

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<v Speaker 2>fuck this, I want to go back to not having

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<v Speaker 2>a period and having like regular levels. But I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>fuck it up, sis, let's try something new.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it for the plot.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to Flex and Firms Kit.

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<v Speaker 1>The more time you spend on the internet, the more

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<v Speaker 1>proficient you should become at not taking de bait. It's

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<v Speaker 1>getting really boring to me to see the same batch

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<v Speaker 1>of people riled up about the same things. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not talking, obviously discussing grotesque social humanitarian issues. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that. I'm saying every now and then somebody would

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<v Speaker 1>come on the Internet and say women need to, Australians

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<v Speaker 1>need to, and everyone's like, and they get themselves riled up,

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<v Speaker 1>your hair and they get themselves riled up and frustrated

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<v Speaker 1>to no end, and it gets really annoying to see

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<v Speaker 1>because the way that algorithms work is the more you

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<v Speaker 1>engage with the content, the more the content it'll show you.

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<v Speaker 1>When things arrive on your feed, you don't always consent

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<v Speaker 1>to that initial interaction. Right when I swipe and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little Andrew Tait video, I'm like, ah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>swipe away because I just know he's gonna say something

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<v Speaker 1>inflammatory that's gonna piss me off. What am I doing there?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm protecting my peace. This doesn't mean that I can't

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<v Speaker 1>comprehend that there is a world out there where people

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<v Speaker 1>think in that way. But on the digital landscape, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to understand that chaos and outrage marketing is a

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<v Speaker 1>tactic and it works because you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Learn interesting and how does this relate to what everything?

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<v Speaker 1>A skill that people need to learn is that chaos

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<v Speaker 1>and outrage marketing works because you don't remember that you

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<v Speaker 1>have the agency to pick what you want to watch

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<v Speaker 1>and engage with. Right, so every time you see a

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<v Speaker 1>Kardashian do something inflammatory like and then engagement goes up,

0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.480
<v Speaker 1>clicks go up, retention rate goes up. Right every time

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<v Speaker 1>you see someone say something misogynistic with no intention of

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to be corrected. Every time you hear someone misunderstand

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<v Speaker 1>what feminism is, misunderstand what intersectionality is, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing exactly what is required for them to keep

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<v Speaker 1>gaining traction on this conversation. Now, there is a fine

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<v Speaker 1>balance between, you know, not excluding yourself from every difficult conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>but also recognizing when and where it is productive and

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<v Speaker 1>when you use the word productive for you to engage

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<v Speaker 1>because it's the same people being like, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a scary place and I can never feel Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but you see the headline, you click, You see the

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<v Speaker 1>MRA article, you click, you see the in cell thread

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<v Speaker 1>you click. Stop clicking, stop clicking, or get better at

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<v Speaker 1>knowing when you are just a pawn in a marketing activity.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard to know, but getting it is really not hard

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<v Speaker 1>to know. It's not it's not because it's the same

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<v Speaker 1>people every time, it's the same narratives every time, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same approach every time, and realistically, you're not in

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<v Speaker 1>the comments, changing mind. You're in the comments spreading the

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<v Speaker 1>narratives farther and wide when you're like, hey, frooms, check

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<v Speaker 1>out this.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you make it? Check this out? Talk about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever, whatever. And I'm just saying, there's a time and place.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's figure it out together, because we don't get to

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<v Speaker 1>the destination, which is independence and community, homeless and harmony,

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<v Speaker 1>if we don't figure out what we're being played, and

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<v Speaker 1>we get played every day.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet we take the bait timetime again, that delicious juicy.

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<v Speaker 2>Have the Kardashians ever like gone into the food Space

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<v Speaker 2>those lollipops? You take the delicious weight lost lollipop every

0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:51.000
<v Speaker 2>time they go into the food Space, they had them lollipops.

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<v Speaker 2>I swear they had the gummies, you know, those things

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<v Speaker 2>that you're supposed to have, all the skinny teas and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like.

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<v Speaker 1>That skinny tea lollyto food Space's opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'll stick to my chap of chubs. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 2>also think I don't want to see you know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>how do I say this? I specifically don't go on

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<v Speaker 2>certain websites despite my animal brain wanting to check out

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>What websites like.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to implicate because can you mouth it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? Are you covering your mouth? I can't see, oh

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<v Speaker 1>daily mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll really try to stop myself from going on these

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<v Speaker 2>websites because I know how they work. They're getting a

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<v Speaker 2>little petuity gland firing because it's getting me fired up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm also wanting to look at all these base

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<v Speaker 2>things that are making me feel bad. But it's given

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<v Speaker 2>me a feeling, and sometimes you know, in this six

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<v Speaker 2>sad world, you need to feel something. But yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>try not to engage so far as I can, because

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<v Speaker 2>I know it doesn't help my anything that I can

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<v Speaker 2>do to help any causes, it doesn't come from feeling

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<v Speaker 2>put upon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like find the balance between being informed, having

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<v Speaker 1>the agency to expose yourself to media that doesn't automatically

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<v Speaker 1>make you feel good, but also knowing that you can

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<v Speaker 1>tap out and not every salacious, derogatory thing on the

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<v Speaker 1>internet is permission for you to expose yourself to dangerous stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Protect your energy.

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