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Speaker 1: This is the pickup, Hi, guys, Happy Friday afternoon.
Speaker 3: Everyone, end of the week. It's the Pickup with Brett
Speaker 3: Hockeley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 4: Okay, can we just talk about something that is so crazy? Laura, now, no,
Speaker 4: it is. I'm losing sleep about it. You know, the
Speaker 4: series on stand alone it's the best. Yeah, well, the
Speaker 4: new season's come out.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet, but you guys have been
Speaker 1: talking about it NonStop and I will go homes after
Speaker 1: in the watch it.
Speaker 2: Producer Grace is like a mega fan.
Speaker 4: But it's like it's always been cold, like it's and
Speaker 4: when I say cold, like cold locations and cold.
Speaker 2: But this year they are doing it in South Africa,
Speaker 2: which seems unfathomable to me, Like to think.
Speaker 4: Of the idea They're going to be thrown into the
Speaker 4: wilderness where there's things like lions and buffalo and hippopotamuses, and.
Speaker 1: So if you've watched the last few pot of My
Speaker 1: hippopot of if you've watched the last few seasons of Alone, normally,
Speaker 1: I think it's in Canada somewhere, and they have to
Speaker 1: get all their like structures built before like the dead
Speaker 1: of winter hits and catch the like. There is no
Speaker 1: person that's ever been to South Africa that would feel
Speaker 1: comfortable just being out there in the wilderness with the
Speaker 1: lions hanging out in a ten with.
Speaker 4: Like an arrow.
Speaker 2: Sorry, what's a bow and arrow going to do?
Speaker 1: Apparently though, so episode one has already dropped. The second
Speaker 1: episode dropped today like at lunchtime. But apparently in the
Speaker 1: first episode there was a woman who already.
Speaker 3: Caught a wart hog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she's just eaten bacon living large at the
Speaker 1: time of the last year.
Speaker 4: She caught it with like a bowl and arrow. They're
Speaker 4: actually crazy. I could not do it. I'd be day one.
Speaker 2: No, you'd be dead, but I'd be riding an elephant
Speaker 2: out of their day one.
Speaker 3: Brittany sitting up in a tree with a cheetah. That's
Speaker 3: the end of Brittany Brockley. Oh sorry, I think we
Speaker 3: were just hanging out with it.
Speaker 2: I was like, that sounds fun.
Speaker 1: Well, guys, you going to watch it the brand new
Speaker 1: season alone. It's available and exclusively on stan and the
Speaker 1: episodes are dropping every Friday one pm. Now we have
Speaker 1: the most amazing woman on the line and I'm calling
Speaker 1: it now.
Speaker 3: I'm saying next contender for Australia of the Year. I
Speaker 3: reckon too, absolutely and if not, we're going to submit
Speaker 3: at ourselves for her.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: Her name is Brook Macintosh and Brook is halfway through
Speaker 1: running fourteen thousand kilometers solo around the entire country. That
Speaker 1: is two marathons a day, every single day, for one
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty days.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Now it's either crazy or brilliant, or probably both because
Speaker 4: I can't even run a kilometer without stopping.
Speaker 3: So this is really something impressive.
Speaker 1: But also Brook is aiming to raise one point four
Speaker 1: million for suicide prevention through the Blue Tree Project, which
Speaker 1: she needs all of Australia to get behind her. I
Speaker 1: know that there's been a couple of male runners over
Speaker 1: the last year that have made it through the media
Speaker 1: and have been you know, people have spoke about the
Speaker 1: quite amazing feats that they've done in running, but I
Speaker 1: do think some of the things that Brook has had
Speaker 1: to face as a woman doing this across the country
Speaker 1: is something that is unfathomable.
Speaker 3: Brook, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a massive feat just wrapped up seven thousand
Speaker 6: kilometers and your ladies wouldn't believe it. But I've been
Speaker 6: doing a few detours and I've actually added an extra
Speaker 6: five hundred kilometers.
Speaker 4: But why yeah, No, it is truly incredible and I
Speaker 4: cannot fad them doing two marathons a day. I did
Speaker 4: one half marathon once and I just thought I deserved
Speaker 4: a medal.
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, this is incredible.
Speaker 4: Tell us why you're doing this, Like what happened in
Speaker 4: your life that you thought I'm just going to go
Speaker 4: run around Australia and raise millions of dollars.
Speaker 6: There is so much to unpack there. But in August
Speaker 6: twenty twenty two, I was going through the depths of
Speaker 6: suicidal ideation myself, and the week that I was actually
Speaker 6: wanting to take my own life, I was actually involved
Speaker 6: in a massive high speed car accident and it was
Speaker 6: through the healing and the recovery of that process that
Speaker 6: I realized that I didn't want to die. I just
Speaker 6: wanted my internal pain to end. Had me on a
Speaker 6: path of having just one more conversation, and I was
Speaker 6: working five all at the time. So I went back
Speaker 6: to site and I opened up about my mental struggles
Speaker 6: with the guys on site and it was actually a
Speaker 6: permission slit for them to start having more conversations. And
Speaker 6: by me doing that, I received so many thanks and
Speaker 6: gratitudes for opening up. And in August twenty twenty three,
Speaker 6: I ran sixteen hundred kilometers top of Wa to bottom
Speaker 6: of Wa to raise awareness of mental health. And when
Speaker 6: I finished, I was like, oh am I stopping here.
Speaker 6: There's still so much more of Australia that need to
Speaker 6: hear this message. So now I talk the Queens lamb Brooka.
Speaker 1: You're incredible, honestly, I mean, I can only imagine how
Speaker 1: taxing this has been on your body. How are you
Speaker 1: feeling at the moment, and what's been the effects on
Speaker 1: your body so far?
Speaker 6: The first four weeks of this run was pretty horrendous,
Speaker 6: Like my body was just adjusting to what was happening.
Speaker 6: But now my body's pretty adjusted. I don't feel too
Speaker 6: many aches and pains, at the moment. But I'm also
Speaker 6: something else that we experience out here is our pms
Speaker 6: and our periods and all that. So I'm always battling that,
Speaker 6: not battling that, but that is a massive challenge every
Speaker 6: single month. On like the week leading up to that,
Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, cool, you've got to tap her
Speaker 6: a little bit and then you can go full again
Speaker 6: for three and a half weeks. Yes, that's been a
Speaker 6: huge adjustment.
Speaker 1: But also, like you know, you think there's been like
Speaker 1: people that ned Broklyn that people have been talking about
Speaker 1: who have done big runs and stuff. There's other factors
Speaker 1: that they don't have to think about, and that's a
Speaker 1: safety element. Like being a woman being out there running
Speaker 1: around Australia, there is so much more risk involved. How
Speaker 1: are you keeping yourself safe on this run?
Speaker 6: Yeah, So we do our run in smaller blocks, so
Speaker 6: I would run ten kilometers and then the caravan would
Speaker 6: be there quickly checking refuel of anything, and then I
Speaker 6: would run ten kilometers. I also carry like a safety
Speaker 6: SOS device on me and a two way radio as well,
Speaker 6: especially in the parts where we have nor reception, just
Speaker 6: so I know I can always get a hold of
Speaker 6: the guys.
Speaker 2: What do you want people to know?
Speaker 4: Like, now, you've got so many people listening to you,
Speaker 4: You've got so many people following your journey, and I
Speaker 4: hope these conversations you know more people are following your journey.
Speaker 4: What do you want to say to people that might
Speaker 4: be feeling what you were feeling a few years ago?
Speaker 6: My biggest message is there's two parts. It's one to
Speaker 6: have just one more conversation and it's to speak up.
Speaker 6: But before we do that, we need to build the
Speaker 6: courage inside of ourselves to be able to do that.
Speaker 6: So my biggest message is to have courage to have
Speaker 6: just one more conversation, And on the flip side of
Speaker 6: that is to have courage to call out BS behavior
Speaker 6: because I believe it's the best behavior that happens in
Speaker 6: society that sends people down the society. About this spiral
Speaker 6: of suicidal ideation depression anxiety PTSD.
Speaker 1: I mean you've said it here in your mantrad just
Speaker 1: one more breath, just one more day, and just one
Speaker 1: more conversation, Brook, How can people get behind you because
Speaker 1: there's so many Australians listening right now and what you're
Speaker 1: doing is absolutely phenomenal. How can we all help you
Speaker 1: get behind you and raise more money.
Speaker 6: It's sharing the message, sharing the cause and donating to
Speaker 6: the cause. By googling just One more Brook, you'll be
Speaker 6: able to find our donations link. And also we've been
Speaker 6: really encouraging people to hold their own fundraisers in their
Speaker 6: own communities and then donating the funds raised directly to
Speaker 6: the course.
Speaker 1: Can people follow where you're at in your journey? How
Speaker 1: can people you know specifically if you're coming through a
Speaker 1: town that might be near them, or you're in an
Speaker 1: area around Australia.
Speaker 3: How can people see where you're at?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I love runners coming out to run with me.
Speaker 6: That keeps me going and it's such a forest gump
Speaker 6: moment whenever that happens. So we post all the time
Speaker 6: on our Instagram. Instagram's the main one that we're on.
Speaker 6: Inside our channel, we post the towns that were coming
Speaker 6: through that day. But we've done a huge part of
Speaker 6: Australia right now. So now we've got the top end
Speaker 6: of Queensland and then Northern Territory and western Aushrelias, Go Brook,
Speaker 6: what is.
Speaker 2: Your Instagram now? So people can go and find you
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 4: Follow along and any runner wherever you are, go and
Speaker 4: join our in her efforts.
Speaker 6: Brook Macintosh double underscore.
Speaker 3: Oh you're amazing, honey.
Speaker 1: Well done, and like we said, I reckon you're a
Speaker 1: very strong contender for Australia the un next year. It's
Speaker 1: just crazy what you've done. You should be so proud
Speaker 1: of yourself, and so was Australia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we need more women like you Australia. Go and
Speaker 4: get behind Brooke. Hey, Laura, I got an update from
Speaker 4: a friend today about something that happened that I realized
Speaker 4: I never told you about.
Speaker 2: But it's so funny. So I recently got married nearly.
Speaker 4: Two weeks ago now, but the week before that, my
Speaker 4: husband Ben and I were over seas in Italy at
Speaker 4: his best friend's wedding.
Speaker 1: I did see this. You're wearing a red dress the internet. Well,
Speaker 1: Deli Mail had a real field day with it.
Speaker 2: Oh actually I didn't tell you that part too.
Speaker 4: I wore a bright red dress right, it's a Tuscan
Speaker 4: summary wedding.
Speaker 2: Beautiful.
Speaker 4: You can wear red dresses to weddings, but apparently you
Speaker 4: can't wear them to certain European weddings.
Speaker 2: I did not know this, But when you wear a red.
Speaker 4: Dress to certain countries in Europe's wedding, it's a statement
Speaker 4: of saying that you've slept with the groom I need
Speaker 4: is it?
Speaker 3: Yup? Yup?
Speaker 2: They told me that. No, they told me that after
Speaker 2: the and I was mortified.
Speaker 4: I was like, I just like flurried around that wedding
Speaker 4: in my red dress everyone there because they're all European.
Speaker 3: So was that in the area that the wedding was?
Speaker 3: Was it? I don't know, I see like you said
Speaker 3: to certain parts of Europe.
Speaker 4: Like well, I asked the bride recently. I went back
Speaker 4: to her and I just double checked. I said, look,
Speaker 4: do I need to clear something up? I have not
Speaker 4: slept with your husband and I and she's like no,
Speaker 4: that's like an old thing for different places.
Speaker 2: So that was fine, that's not even the stories.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 4: So at their wedding, they've had their wedding rings for
Speaker 4: like eighteen months to two years.
Speaker 2: They've been engaged for quite a while.
Speaker 4: The husband has gone to get his rings and get
Speaker 4: everything ready for the day, and he realized he had
Speaker 4: put them on the bedside table the night before, went
Speaker 4: back to find them gone, absolutely gone.
Speaker 2: This wedding ring.
Speaker 4: That he's getting married in like eight to twelve hours.
Speaker 4: He's had it for two years missing. So he goes
Speaker 4: and finds his future wife and he's like, hey, did
Speaker 4: you clean up? Did you move anything? She's like absolutely not.
Speaker 4: What are you missing?
Speaker 2: He had to tell her that. He's like, well, my
Speaker 2: wedding ring.
Speaker 4: So they go to their son, their two year old son,
Speaker 4: and they're like, where.
Speaker 2: Did you put it?
Speaker 3: Did you you know?
Speaker 4: He's too did you take something here? It's golden shiny, Like,
Speaker 4: where did you take it? He's just laughing running away. Anyway,
Speaker 4: They've searched the house. They had every person there that
Speaker 4: was working there. Everyone like turned it upside down.
Speaker 1: I think most parents are gonna obviously not wedding ring related,
Speaker 1: but your kids take things and you lose it all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, keys in.
Speaker 1: Bins, keys in toilets, yeap rings in gardens like kids
Speaker 1: just there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't leave it lying around.
Speaker 4: He's blamed his son, right, like he's deflected to blame.
Speaker 4: He's a two year old son, nothing to do with me,
Speaker 4: Like he should know better, so.
Speaker 3: He should not know where he's too.
Speaker 4: The wedding goes ahead and he has to get married
Speaker 4: with like a sports ring, like a like a whoop thing.
Speaker 2: You don't have the whoop ring? Has it?
Speaker 4: Just like so it's just this big thick not that
Speaker 4: great looking gold.
Speaker 3: You're not taking wedding photos of that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, we laughed, we laughed, we laughed.
Speaker 4: He got into big trouble with his partner that you know,
Speaker 4: he's blamed his son. Anyway, flash forward a week later
Speaker 4: to our wedding. He still is wearing his ring, that's
Speaker 4: the sports ring. Anyway, he puts his hand in his pocket.
Speaker 4: What do you think he finds his pocket.
Speaker 1: No, because he was wearing the same suit that he
Speaker 1: wears suit pants.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was in his pocket.
Speaker 4: He had it in his own pocket the entire time,
Speaker 4: gets married with like a gold sports band blames.
Speaker 1: You're so mad at your husband. You'd be like, you
Speaker 1: had one thing to do and you manage to lose
Speaker 1: the ring, and then you blame the two years off,
Speaker 1: But then it was on your being the whole time.
Speaker 1: I feel like the model in this is that, I mean, firstly,
Speaker 1: he's the liability, but you can get away with blaming
Speaker 1: things on your kids for a while. We're at a
Speaker 1: phase at the moment, so Lola thinks farts are really funny.
Speaker 3: Lola's four. She thinks farts are hilarious.
Speaker 1: So if anyone has farted, all you have to say
Speaker 1: is that Lola did it, and she'll go, yeah, it did,
Speaker 1: and then she takes it. She loves it, she'll claim it.
Speaker 3: Then you're off. Scott Free's so we do it in
Speaker 3: our household to bring her over to my house. I'll
Speaker 3: use it.
Speaker 1: We've been on a real discovery journey today. We've learned
Speaker 1: a few things about each other in this team. So
Speaker 1: there's a New Zealand show that was talking about the
Speaker 1: concept of how you read books.
Speaker 3: So hear me out.
Speaker 1: When you read a book in your head like you're
Speaker 1: you know, you sit down at the end of your
Speaker 1: day and you have your favorite book and you're reading
Speaker 1: through the dialogue between different characters. Do you voice those
Speaker 1: characters in different ways or do you just read a
Speaker 1: book like you're reading a normal piece of paper.
Speaker 3: Have a listen to this.
Speaker 5: My husband Aunt and I were lying in bed reading
Speaker 5: our books and I said to Art, oh, this book
Speaker 5: is taking me ages because it's set in Scotland. And
Speaker 5: Art was like sorry, and I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 5: it's tricky for me to do a Scottish accent, and
Speaker 5: I didn't realize that that is perhaps an abnormal.
Speaker 3: Thing to do.
Speaker 5: So when I'm reading, I'm doing the voices in my
Speaker 5: head and the accents.
Speaker 3: It's like a narrat Okay.
Speaker 1: So we discovered that our very own Brittany Hockley also
Speaker 1: does the same thing, which is just utterly insane, not weird.
Speaker 2: It's not weird, mind you, mine's exactly.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 4: My favorite book series ever, there's six books in the series, is.
Speaker 2: Called Outlander by Diana Givalden.
Speaker 4: It's been mental TV show, but it is set in
Speaker 4: the Scottish Highlands.
Speaker 2: It took me years to read those books, mainly because
Speaker 2: there's a the six thick books.
Speaker 4: B it's Scottish, you have to do the Scottish accent.
Speaker 1: In the Scottish or is it in English? But therefore,
Speaker 1: because it's not, it's.
Speaker 4: Set in Scotland, and it's a lot of it's set
Speaker 4: in what they call the Gaelic, which is like the
Speaker 4: language back in Scotland. And a lot of it is
Speaker 4: written because it's set in the seventeen hundred, so a
Speaker 4: lot of it's written in different kind of English, like
Speaker 4: a really old school English, and I read it in
Speaker 4: my head how it is set and how it would
Speaker 4: be like.
Speaker 2: Oh, lass, I read it like that. I do. That's
Speaker 2: what I do.
Speaker 3: Okay, but we little. But that's a very specific example.
Speaker 1: What if you're just reading, like a romance novel that's got,
Speaker 1: you know, a guy and a girl in it. Do
Speaker 1: you read like as in your head, does the male
Speaker 1: voice have a male sound and the female voice isn't it?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 3: Do you create characters?
Speaker 4: I think I'm more more so than male female. I'm
Speaker 4: more accents. So if someone has a French accent, I'm
Speaker 4: doing that in my head like I'm you want to
Speaker 4: gossolt like whatever, I do it like who? I don't know,
Speaker 4: but that's how. That's how my brain works.
Speaker 1: I just read it like I'm reading any piece of
Speaker 1: paper boy nothing, it makes no difference.
Speaker 3: I'm just efficiency.
Speaker 1: I'm in there, I'm out like, I know it's the
Speaker 1: guy speaking, I know it's the girls. My brain doesn't
Speaker 1: need the character rehearsal.
Speaker 4: You need to read for the imagination where it transports you,
Speaker 4: where it takes you. You want to have all your senses.
Speaker 4: You don't want to read like you're reading a dictionary.
Speaker 3: Well, this is like this is the other thing.
Speaker 1: This debate or like question came up quite a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago. But do you have an internal monologue? Was
Speaker 1: the other one. So you know, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people, as they're just getting about their day, they
Speaker 1: have a little voice inside their head, not a crazy one,
Speaker 1: just like the you know, the little voice that you
Speaker 1: hear that tells you what to do and talks to
Speaker 1: you as you're doing stuff. And mine is always talking
Speaker 1: to me. And then there are some people out there,
Speaker 1: a percentage of the population that just hears nothing.
Speaker 3: That's me. I don't believe your brain.
Speaker 2: I don't talk in my head much at all.
Speaker 3: Like I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't really have an internal monologue. I don't talk
Speaker 4: things through it. I don't really have a filter. But
Speaker 4: my husband Ben, we have quite a few arguments about
Speaker 4: the same thing, and that is him telling me he's
Speaker 4: told me something before, and we've we've broken it down
Speaker 4: a couple of days ago. Actually, he said, I say
Speaker 4: things in my head so many times, and that I've
Speaker 4: convinced I've said it out loud to you. And it's
Speaker 4: not until I've said I will put my life on this.
Speaker 4: You haven't told me that that he realizes he's only
Speaker 4: said it in his brain.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here with my mouth open because he is
Speaker 1: actually shocking to me that people don't just talk in
Speaker 1: their own heads all the time. Mine is so noisy.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's enough, Loot, look at your.
Speaker 4: Life and look at what's around you right now and
Speaker 4: your internal brain.
Speaker 3: I need to be medicated.
Speaker 1: But I just feel like my brain is it's always going,
Speaker 1: and if it's not going, I'm like counting things.
Speaker 3: I'm doing all kinds of weird stuff just to keep
Speaker 3: my brain occupied.
Speaker 2: It's not that I.
Speaker 4: Can't do it, because some people are a step further.
Speaker 4: There are people that do it. There's people that don't
Speaker 4: do it, but there are some people that physically can't.
Speaker 2: They cannot must drop a voice in their brain.
Speaker 4: I can do it, and sometimes I will, like I'll
Speaker 4: roll my eyes in my brain, do you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? Like my brain will be like, wow, I
Speaker 4: can't believe she said that or whatever, not about you.
Speaker 4: Maybe it was about you, But.
Speaker 2: But my brain's not messy and chaotic like I'm not
Speaker 2: doing it. It's quite empty. I think I've told you that.
Speaker 1: Before, Gracie, you producer, Gracy, you what are you.
Speaker 3: Doing chaos thoughts?
Speaker 4: Constantly think I'm thinking, but the voice is going content.
Speaker 2: God, it's cod No, it's so relaxing to me.
Speaker 3: Wow, I would love to spend a day in your brain.
Speaker 3: Just tune out for a while. I find this utterly fascinating.
Speaker 1: Look, I mean, go and join the conversation on the
Speaker 1: pick up socials if you want to tell us if
Speaker 1: you have a constant internal monologue, maybe you do a
Speaker 1: full dress rehearsal for when you're reading books and everyone's
Speaker 1: got an accent in it and a special voice.
Speaker 3: And like to know because I feel like we all
Speaker 3: do this very differently.
Speaker 2: You should see how I read Harry Potter.
Speaker 3: That was a wild ride. Alright, well, guys, we're out
Speaker 3: of here.