WEBVTT - The aid ship carrying Greta Thunberg, explained

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<v Speaker 1>Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>now it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning and welcome to the Daily oas it's Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>the eleventh of June. I'm Emma Gillespie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm beliefit.

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<v Speaker 2>Simon's an AID ship sailing to Gaza was intercepted by

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<v Speaker 2>Israel this week and its passengers, including Greta Tunberg, claimed

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<v Speaker 2>they had been kidnapped. Israel said it was providing consular

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<v Speaker 2>assistance to facilitate the deportation of the crew of what

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<v Speaker 2>it called a selfie yacht to return to their home countries.

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<v Speaker 2>In today's deep Dive, we are going to explain what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on with this story and take you through the

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<v Speaker 2>latest developments. It's dominated headlines, especially over a long weekend

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<v Speaker 2>for the rest of us here at home, so we

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<v Speaker 2>want to take you through it today.

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<v Speaker 1>And like you said, this has dominated global headlines over

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<v Speaker 1>the long weekend. It was absolutely everywhere on Monday when

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<v Speaker 1>the crew members claimed that they had been kidnapped. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a complex one. Let's start with the ship at

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<v Speaker 1>the center of it all. What do we need to

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<v Speaker 1>know about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so we're talking about a ship called the Madeleine,

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<v Speaker 2>which departed southern Italy on the first of June. It

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<v Speaker 2>was carrying medical supplies and food bound for Gaza. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the ship is led by an organization called the Freedom

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<v Speaker 2>Flotilla Coalition. It's an activist group that says it's campaigning

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<v Speaker 2>for freedom of movement for all Palestinians and quote to

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<v Speaker 2>end Israel's Gaza blockade, which it calls illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were carrying AID, right, Yeah, exactly, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is in light of this blockade that you mentioned. What

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<v Speaker 1>do we need to know about the blockade?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So this all stems back to the ceasefire deal

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<v Speaker 2>that you might remember was agreed between Hamas and Israel

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<v Speaker 2>back in January. Now, that ceasefire was meant to have

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<v Speaker 2>three phases, and the first phase end on the first

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<v Speaker 2>of March. Now, negotiations for the remaining phases have been

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<v Speaker 2>ongoing for months, but in the meantime, Israel had blocked

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<v Speaker 2>AID from reaching Gaza. Now, this was in a move

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<v Speaker 2>that's been condemned by UN agencies. International governments, including Australia

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<v Speaker 2>and Israel, said the blockade was to pressure Hamas to

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<v Speaker 2>release the remaining Israeli hostages who are still being held

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<v Speaker 2>in Gaza. On the note of a delivery to Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>It defended the amount of aid flowing into Gaza in

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<v Speaker 2>recent days. It's claimed that more than twelve hundred AID

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<v Speaker 2>trucks have entered the strip from Israel within the past

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks, and in addition to those deliveries, it said

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<v Speaker 2>that close to eleven million meals have been issued directly

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<v Speaker 2>to civilians through the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation the GHF. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that is a US and Israeli backed NGO.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this blockade started in March when the ceasefire ended.

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<v Speaker 1>What has happened since then?

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<v Speaker 2>So since then we've seen this global criticism of the

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<v Speaker 2>blockade itself. The World Health Organization says the entire population

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<v Speaker 2>of Gaza, two point one million people, is now facing

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<v Speaker 2>prolonged food shortages, with nearly half a million people in

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<v Speaker 2>what the WHO call a quote catastrophic situation of hunger,

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<v Speaker 2>acute maltrition, starvation, illness, and death. It says three quarters

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<v Speaker 2>of Gaza's population are in emergency or catastrophic food deprivation,

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<v Speaker 2>and the UN has labeled Israel's decision to block aid

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<v Speaker 2>as a quote cruel collective punishment of Palestinians, and it

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<v Speaker 2>says that AID should never be a bargaining.

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<v Speaker 1>Chip okay, and what about the Freedom Flotilla Coalition the FFC,

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<v Speaker 1>when did they get involved.

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<v Speaker 2>So as this kind of at tension within the global

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<v Speaker 2>community ramped up, as I mentioned, this flotilla announced it

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<v Speaker 2>was preparing a vessel to sail to Gaza with AID

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<v Speaker 2>on board, and the FFC said its ship, the Madeline,

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<v Speaker 2>which was aimed in twenty fifteen after quote Gaza's only

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<v Speaker 2>fisher woman at the time, a symbol of resistance and resilience.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the first vessel that's been sent by the FFC,

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<v Speaker 2>or has been attempted to be sent by the FFC

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<v Speaker 2>to Gaza. The group actually sent an AID ship called

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<v Speaker 2>the Conscience in early May, which it said was attacked

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<v Speaker 2>by Israeli drones in international waters off the coast of Malta.

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<v Speaker 2>So the FFC called the bombing quote a deliberate act

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<v Speaker 2>of aggression and intimidation. Four crew members were injured. It

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<v Speaker 2>says the ship was set ablaze, communications were severed and

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<v Speaker 2>the vessel was left adrift and taking on water. The

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<v Speaker 2>group said the attack occurred in European waters, which was

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<v Speaker 2>in violation of international law where the ship remains stranded.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is another ship called Conscience that is completely

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<v Speaker 1>separate to the one we're talking about today that has

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<v Speaker 1>Credit Tumberg on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, but same organization, so same activist group, same sort

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<v Speaker 2>of attempt to s ship aid into.

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<v Speaker 1>Gaza, right, but that was also blocked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that was blocked and essentially destroyed.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it, Okay? So then let's talk about the latest

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<v Speaker 1>AID ship that it sent. The Madleene is what it's called.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we know about its journey and who was

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<v Speaker 1>on board? We know that Greta Tunberg was on board.

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<v Speaker 2>Right exactly. So the next attempt by this group, since

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<v Speaker 2>the Conscience ship was attacked, it says by Israeli drones,

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<v Speaker 2>was this Madeleine journey to deliver aid to Gaza. It

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<v Speaker 2>actually started making headlines well before it began its journey,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's largely because of some of its high profile passengers.

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<v Speaker 2>As you've mentioned, Billy all Up, there were twelve volunteers

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<v Speaker 2>from multiple countries on the Madeleine. It set sail from

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<v Speaker 2>Sicily on the first of June, so that included with

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<v Speaker 2>climate justice activist Greta Tunberg, but there was also a

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<v Speaker 2>high profile politician, a French Palestinian woman named Rema Hassan.

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<v Speaker 2>She's actually a member of the European Parliament. So when

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<v Speaker 2>Tunberg announced that she was going to be one of

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<v Speaker 2>the twelve passengers sailing to Gaza on this ship, she

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<v Speaker 2>said she felt compelled to join out of moral obligation

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<v Speaker 2>to fight for a free Palestine. She added, quote, we

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<v Speaker 2>are seeing a systematic starvation of two million people. The

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<v Speaker 2>world cannot be silent bystanders, and so Greta Tunberg a

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<v Speaker 2>very high profile voice in the climate activism space. Once

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<v Speaker 2>she was on board, then the headlines kind of followed

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<v Speaker 2>and people really started paying attention to this particular journey.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, maybe we should have explained

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<v Speaker 1>this earlier, but for those I'm sure many people are

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with Greta Tunberg. She rose to fame at a

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<v Speaker 1>very early age for her activism, particularly in the environmental space,

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<v Speaker 1>and now into adulthood, she has also continued that activism

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<v Speaker 1>into other areas, including human rights. Exactly when we say

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<v Speaker 1>that the ship was carrying aid cargo, what exactly does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so the FFC said, specifically, the ship is carrying

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<v Speaker 2>what it's called urgently needed supplies for the people in Gaza,

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<v Speaker 2>and that includes a whole range of items from baby

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<v Speaker 2>formula to flower rice, nappy's, women's sanitary products, water desalination kits,

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<v Speaker 2>and a range of medical supplies ranging from crutches to prosthetics.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think it is important to flag here that

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<v Speaker 2>we're not talking about a huge cargo ship. If you've

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<v Speaker 2>seen images of the boat, it's a pretty small sail ship.

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<v Speaker 2>The amount of aid it was carrying, though, has been

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<v Speaker 2>described as symbolic by the group, So it's not suggesting

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<v Speaker 2>that the supplies it has on board will be sufficient

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<v Speaker 2>to reach those in needing Gaza. But it's about, they say,

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<v Speaker 2>drawing attention to this humanitarian crisis in Gaza, protesting the

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli blockade. So the ship is as much of a

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<v Speaker 2>protest as it is an aid delivery, I suppose.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to keep talking about this, but first

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<v Speaker 1>here is a quick message from ours consor. We know

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<v Speaker 1>that it never reached its destination. Though what happened It

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<v Speaker 1>was on Monday Australia time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so on Sunday local time we heard from Israeli

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<v Speaker 2>Foreign Minister Israel Katz. He said that he had instructed

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<v Speaker 2>the Israeli Defense Forces the IDF to quote take whatever

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<v Speaker 2>measures are necessary to stop what he called a hate

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<v Speaker 2>flotilla from reaching Gaza, then the flotilla itself. So those

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<v Speaker 2>on board the passengers shared a series of posts to

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<v Speaker 2>social media. They said that drones were spotted flying over

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<v Speaker 2>the Madeleine as it approached Gaza, and footage shared from

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<v Speaker 2>the ship shows a white substance being sprayed on its windows.

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<v Speaker 2>There's videos of the passengers on board the ship throwing

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<v Speaker 2>their phones overboard, and we can see the IDF boarding

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<v Speaker 2>the vessel, and the FFC has since posted a series

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<v Speaker 2>of pre recorded videos from its passengers. Now there's a

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<v Speaker 2>range of these videos, but they call on viewers to

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<v Speaker 2>pressure their governments to pressure foreign ministries in countries like Spain, France,

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<v Speaker 2>Brazil home countries to some of these passengers to keep

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<v Speaker 2>those on board safe. Had also among those videos a

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<v Speaker 2>statement from Greta Tunberg. She posted a video urging the

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<v Speaker 2>Swedish government she is Swedish, to call for her release.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a little bit of what was said in that video.

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<v Speaker 1>If you see this video, we have been intercepted and

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<v Speaker 1>kidnapped in international waters by the Israeli occupational forces or

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<v Speaker 1>forces that support Israel, and so her account posted that.

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<v Speaker 1>But we know that she herself didn't post that. It

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<v Speaker 1>would have been someone with access to her social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so these were pre recorded statements, I suppose, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing the danger of what they were getting involved in,

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<v Speaker 2>the crew kind of preempted a need to have some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a statement ready to go. But the organization

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<v Speaker 2>the flotilla itself said that the ship was quote attacked

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<v Speaker 2>slash forcibly intercepted by the Israeli military in international waters.

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<v Speaker 2>It said the ship was unlawfully boarded and its unarmed

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<v Speaker 2>civilian crew was abducted, while the life saving cargo was confiscated.

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<v Speaker 1>Israel immediately put out photos and videos of what had

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<v Speaker 1>happened on this ship. How did they respond to these

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<v Speaker 1>claims that they had kidnapped these crew members.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so we have heard a lot from both sides

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<v Speaker 2>involved in this incident. It was Monday morning for us

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<v Speaker 2>here in Australia when we got this statement from Israel's

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<v Speaker 2>Foreign Ministry. When that came through, it said, quote the

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<v Speaker 2>selfie yacht of the celebrities was safely making its way

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<v Speaker 2>to the shores of Israel. It said the passengers were

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<v Speaker 2>expected to return to their home countries. This was a

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<v Speaker 2>really strongly worded statement kind of condemning the action of

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<v Speaker 2>the crew and its goal. It called the videos an

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<v Speaker 2>attempted publicity stunt over less than a single truckload of

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<v Speaker 2>aid and said there are ways to deliver aid to

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<v Speaker 2>the Gaza strip they do not involve Instagram selfies. And

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<v Speaker 2>Israel also posted a video showing the passengers on a

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<v Speaker 2>small boat being given sandwiches and water, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>a photo of Tunberg in that kind of release of comments.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you just really quickly explain so earlier we mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that there was this blockade, but Israel is saying that

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<v Speaker 1>there has been some aid that has been delivered to Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So this has been kind of a huge point

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<v Speaker 2>of contention in the global community, and we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>it on the podcast a couple of weeks ago. So,

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<v Speaker 2>the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation that I mentioned, they are backed

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<v Speaker 2>by Israel, backed by US, and the idea is that

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<v Speaker 2>they should be from Israel's perspective, responsible for the distribution

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<v Speaker 2>of aid in Gaza, a centralized organization to be responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for handing out aid from for kind of centralized aid agencies. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the criticism has been that those aid centers are not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily conveniently located for the two million people of Gaza,

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<v Speaker 2>that there is a lot of starvation, that there are

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<v Speaker 2>people who are nursing serious injuries without medical care, and

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<v Speaker 2>that they will not physically be able to get to

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<v Speaker 2>those aid centers. There are concerns about the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>these centers are manned by a military presence, that there's

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<v Speaker 2>facial recognition technology. That's some of the allegations, that there

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<v Speaker 2>are privacy concerns. So that's its own kind of set

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<v Speaker 2>of issues and seat of kind of conversation mounting on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of this. But Israel and the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>it's closest to ally have defended that organization as distributing

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<v Speaker 2>adequate aid in the region.

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<v Speaker 1>At the moment, what do we know about these twelve

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<v Speaker 1>crew members. Since the IDF intercepted the ship.

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<v Speaker 2>So late on Monday night local time, Israeli authorities said

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<v Speaker 2>that the boat it continued to call it the selfie yacht,

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<v Speaker 2>had docked at Ashdod Port. Now, that's a main cargo

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<v Speaker 2>port near the city of Tel Aviv, about forty kilometers

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<v Speaker 2>south of Tel Aviv, and Israel said the passengers were

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<v Speaker 2>undergoing medical exams to ensure they were in good health.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was that update, and then about six hours

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<v Speaker 2>later we got another update confirming that the passengers had

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<v Speaker 2>all been taken to the International airport in Tel Aviv. There,

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<v Speaker 2>Israel's Foreign Ministry says they were met by diplomatic representatives

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<v Speaker 2>each from their home countries, and the Foreign Ministry said

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<v Speaker 2>that some passengers were pretty much expected to leave within hours. However,

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<v Speaker 2>it noted that anyone who refused to sign deportation documents,

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<v Speaker 2>so anyone who refused to leave Israel voluntarily, would be

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<v Speaker 2>brought before a judicial authority in accordance with Israeli law

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<v Speaker 2>to authorize their deportation. So essentially they would launch legal

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<v Speaker 2>proceedings to forcibly remove these people from Israel. Now, the

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<v Speaker 2>Defense Minister of Israel, Israel Katz, congratulated the IDF for

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<v Speaker 2>what he called quote the quick and safe takeover of

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<v Speaker 2>the Madeleine flotilla to prevent them from breaking the blockade

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<v Speaker 2>and reaching the shores of Gaza. He also wrote in

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<v Speaker 2>a post to x that it was important to show

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<v Speaker 2>Greta Tunberg and the other passengers quote exactly who the

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<v Speaker 2>Hamas terrorist organization they came to support, is, saying he

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<v Speaker 2>had instructed the IDF to show the flotilla passengers quote

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<v Speaker 2>the video of the horrors of the October seven massacre

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<v Speaker 2>when they arrived at the port of Ashdod.

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<v Speaker 1>And have we heard from anyone on the flotilla about

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<v Speaker 1>these updates?

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<v Speaker 2>So we haven't heard from the passengers themselves yet at

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<v Speaker 2>the time of recording, but we have received kind of

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<v Speaker 2>rolling updates from the FFC as they have kind of emerged.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we get responses from Israel, we've typically also

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<v Speaker 2>heard from the FFC. They've both been pretty active in

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<v Speaker 2>their communication about this incident and the movement of the passengers.

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<v Speaker 2>The FFC said the passengers are expected to be moved

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<v Speaker 2>to a detention facility unless they agree to leave immediately,

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<v Speaker 2>so that lines up with what we heard from the

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<v Speaker 2>Foreign Ministry in Israel. FFC lawyers said, though, quote, we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about people who were sailing in international orders and

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<v Speaker 2>then Israel basically captured them and abducted them into Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>We continue to demand the immediate release of all volunteers

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<v Speaker 2>and the return of the stole and aid their detention

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<v Speaker 2>is unlawful and a violation of international law. So the

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<v Speaker 2>group is continuing claims that the actions of the IDF

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<v Speaker 2>and of the Israeli government are unlawful, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>we will hear more on that in the coming weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>As wev said, this is an international story, particularly because

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<v Speaker 1>many of the crew members are from all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>different countries. What has the response from the international community, bin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so there are a range of countries involved. As

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned, Billy, half of the crew though are French citizens,

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<v Speaker 2>and that includes the eu MP who we mentioned earlier

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<v Speaker 2>in the episode, and authorities in France say that they

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<v Speaker 2>did warn the passengers on board the flotilla of the

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<v Speaker 2>risks that they were exposing themselves to The French Foreign

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<v Speaker 2>Minister has also said since this incident that he's been

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<v Speaker 2>assured by Israel that the crew would receive consular assistance

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<v Speaker 2>when they arrived in Tel Aviv. Sweden, where Greta Tunberg

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<v Speaker 2>is from, said it's monitoring the situation closely. In terms

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<v Speaker 2>of response from the United Nations. Before the trip, the

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<v Speaker 2>UN actually said that it was seriously concerned for the

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<v Speaker 2>passenger's safety. It said as the Freedom Flotilla coalition's ship

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<v Speaker 2>approaches its destination, Israel must adhere to international law and

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<v Speaker 2>comply with orders from the International Court of Justice to

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<v Speaker 2>ensure unimpeded access for humanitarian aid, so making its position

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<v Speaker 2>on the plight of the flotilla pretty clear there. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>since the ship was intercepted, we have heard from Francesca Albanesi.

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<v Speaker 2>She works for UNRA, which is the UN agency that

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<v Speaker 2>works with Palestine and Palestinian refugees. She has urged other

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<v Speaker 2>boats to challenge Israel's Gaza blockade, so she's essentially calling

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<v Speaker 2>on more boats to do what the Madeleine was attempting

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<v Speaker 2>to do. In a post to X, she said Madeleine's

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<v Speaker 2>journey may have ended, but the mission isn't over. Every

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<v Speaker 2>Mediterranean port must send boats with aid and solidarity to Gaza. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>at the time of recording, we are awaiting news on

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<v Speaker 2>the movements of all twelve passengers, but we do know

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<v Speaker 2>that Greta Tunberg has departed Israel. Photos emerged on Tuesday

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<v Speaker 2>evening posted by Israel's Foreign Ministry on X saying that

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<v Speaker 2>she had just departed Israel on a flight to Sweden

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<v Speaker 2>via France. Reports say she was placed on the flights

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<v Speaker 2>after signing deportation papers and was traveling on her own

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<v Speaker 2>without an escort. But we will continue to bring you

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<v Speaker 2>updates as this story on folds.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we'll definitely be keeping an eye and like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>we will bring any updates to the podcast in our

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<v Speaker 1>headlines podcasts in the afternoons. M thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for walking us through that. Thank you, and thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for listening to this episode of The Daily Oz.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back again this afternoon with your evening headlines,

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<v Speaker 1>but until then, have a great day. My name is

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