1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Get a. I'm Laala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn, 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows, 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the pod. On today's episode, we have a 8 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: dear friend here with us, Dustin Brown. He is a 9 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: incredible surfer, yogi yoga studio owner. If you're from Melbourne, 10 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: you've probably done yog's at one of his studios called 11 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: Warrior One. They do retreats as well. He is a 12 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: black belt in jiu jitsu and he's an all round 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: good human. So in this chat he shares a lot 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: about his own personal journey, also a lot of his 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: yogi loss of you too. I think I'm gonna love 16 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: this one, Dustin. Thank you so much for jumping on 17 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: the pod. Dustin Brown, how's it going? Thanks for jumping 18 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: on the pod. 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: So Yogi studio owner X pro surfer. I didn't know 21 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: that until I researched you a bit of a Jiu 22 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: Jitsu king black beout black black belt, And can I 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: say I don't know if you know this about me, 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: but you took me on a hike when I first 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: got to Los Angeles like two years ago, and I 26 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: literally was like, oh, I'm probably going to die this 27 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: is and you were like a gazelle, just like bounding up. 28 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: Do you remember that hike? That was hard? The Wishing 29 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: Tree hike? 30 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, with the Wisdom Tree. 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: That place is amazing. 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: And we get to the top and I'm like, thank 33 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: God with it. You're like, hey, how about we just 34 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: go to the back of the Hollywood sign now do 35 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: you remember? 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: I do remember? 37 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: That was awesome. I think I had done that a 38 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: bunch of times, so I was used to it. I 39 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: was like, it's very short, but it's steep. 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Oh my goodness. So funny, so funny. 41 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: So I'm really excited to have you on this pod 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: one because you're a friend, but also I love interviewing 43 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: yogis and you are such a prolific yogi, especially in 44 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: the Australian yogi world. But also like we can tell 45 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: by your accent you're American, so I thought you were 46 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: from Hawaii. But you were born in Cali lived in Kawai. 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I was raised there, born in Ventura, California. 48 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 49 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 2: Dad moved us over to Kawai very early. 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: So I think it was secretly so that he could 51 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: serve a lot, but it was to raise us on 52 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: an island. 53 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: But how coold? I like grow up around that much nature? 54 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 3: Oh so grateful, Like literally what a dream to look 55 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: back and realize how fortunate I was to grow up 56 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 3: on literally paradise on Earth, and the experiences and kind 57 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: of it set me up for an amazing life. It 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: was really really I feel extremely grateful to be able 59 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: to have grown up on that tiny island. And yeah, 60 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: do you go back much? I would like to go 61 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: back more. I haven't been back since I'm back last year. 62 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: I was, oh, how good I remember? So I think 63 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: I was telling you on the weekend. I've only been 64 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: to Wahu, but I love Hawaiian. I remember the first 65 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: time I went as an adult and I was crying 66 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 1: leaving the airport and somebody that worked at the airport said, 67 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: don't worry, I she'll call you back. Hawaii will call 68 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: you back. And I've been back I think five or 69 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: six times since. 70 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: So true. 71 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: There's something special about the energy. 72 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: There right there is, and I think it's something people 73 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: don't realize. 74 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: They're like, there's just something about this place. I need 75 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: to live here. 76 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: So many people visit Hawaiian like I need to live here, 77 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: and it's to the dismay of the locals, but that's 78 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: the same. But at the same time they totally get it. 79 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: There is an energy there that is truly grounding and powerful, 80 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: and like where it is strategically in the world, there's 81 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: not much around it. It's pretty much in the middle 82 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: of nowhere, and that makes it pretty special itself. 83 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: Does it mean that you love a good asai bowl? 84 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: I do love a good as ball, But to you 85 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: know what, I didn't actually get into SI until jiu 86 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: jitsu and the Brazilians that are what they brought us. 87 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: Brought it from Brazil, so that was like really part 88 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: of the culture, and I kept hearing about it from 89 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: all the Brazilians and then when I finally tried it, 90 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 3: it was like I get the hype. 91 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: It is good. 92 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So my first experience with you is I 93 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: think it might be we both taught it the same 94 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: yoga retreat, but at different times, maybe in Queenstown, Okay, Yeah. 95 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: But also then I've been dating Matt now for five 96 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: years and he's always been a warrior one yogi and 97 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: he'd always say, Oh, I'm doing yoga and there's this 98 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: amazing dog ninja that'll come and sit on my yoga 99 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: mat at the end of my practice. And I'm like, 100 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: I want to go to yog's ro dog's going to 101 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: chill with me and pick me to sit with at 102 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: the end of my practice. So I feel like i've 103 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: kind of obviously as well in the Australian yoga space. 104 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: There's not loads eyes that here, Like, I don't know, 105 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: I feel like you're one of the kings of yokes 106 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: in Australia. No, I know, I feel like that. 107 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: I do love yoga. 108 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: That is not really a question, am I realized that 109 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: as a statement, But that's I'm trying to figure out 110 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: where I first like learned about you. So I didn't 111 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: know about this background of starting with pro surfing. I 112 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: didn't know that was your dream as a kid. So 113 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: did you was that Did that all start in Hawaii? 114 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: Ord that start more Cali when you. 115 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 3: Were yeah, and growing up growing up on the islands 116 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: like and being in the ocean so much. You're obviously 117 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: the ocean instills such respect because the power and you 118 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: see how it can be deadly, but it can also 119 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: be like this beautiful and amazing thing that you want 120 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: to be a part of. So I think early on 121 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: watching the people that were skilled that could go into 122 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 3: these situations that seem like death defying and not only 123 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 3: walk away unscathed, but enjoy it and like have this 124 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: true pleasure from it. You could see and it was 125 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: really enticing. So there's something about that, and it just 126 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 3: instilled it deep. I was like, if that looks like 127 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 3: the dream to be able to surf around the world 128 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: and all these amazing places where the waves are even 129 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: better than here, and to experience the sights and the 130 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: scenery like that was always something deep inside, like a 131 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: driving force. And I quickly realized from just watching the 132 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: world around me on the island, I was from that. 133 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: Either you did something and you got out of there 134 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: and you could always come back, like it's such a 135 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: beautiful kind of like a small country town, like if 136 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: you want to do something, you need to leave this place, 137 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 3: go experience the world, but it'll always call you back. 138 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: You'll always want to come back. And that's what I experienced. 139 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: The more that I started diving into wanting to be 140 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 3: a pro ser for I realized to be able to 141 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 3: do this, I need to leave this amazing place that 142 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: is like a safe little bubble that you never want 143 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: to leave, but to be able to grow and expand 144 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 3: you actually have to. 145 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: Is that how you got to Australia? You will literally 146 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: on the sit how did you get to Australia? 147 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: So long story short. 148 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: I left Kawhi and moved to LA when I was 149 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: nineteen twenty, and the dream was to be a pro surfer. 150 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: But I moved to La for love. I found a 151 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: girl with film in love. It was like, it's going 152 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: to be amazing. 153 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: You're such a Roman. 154 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: I am, it is it is. 155 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: And I met this girl, moved to La for her, 156 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: sold all my things, you know, and two weeks in 157 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: she's like, yeah. 158 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: I'm not ready for a relationship. 159 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: Oh nice. 160 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: I was like huh okay. 161 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: So the universe looked after me and long period of 162 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 3: time condensed into a couple of sentences. I became a bartender, 163 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: got really good at that, made good money, and then 164 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: I broke my leg and couldn't walk for a year, 165 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: and that was kind of like you told me about yeah, 166 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: big wake up. It was like shattered my tibiaphibia, couldn't walk. 167 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: I was skateboarding and it was just one of these 168 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: things I was. My lifestyle was leading me deeper and 169 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: deeper into late nights and party scene. And I was 170 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: working in like Orange County and in Hollywood and Hollywood 171 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 3: after parties, after nightclubs are pretty wild, and to see 172 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: and get a glimpse into that scene, it was pretty 173 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: exciting and fun. And then suddenly this thing happened and 174 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 3: it was like emergency break on full stop. 175 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: Didn't you get stuff with American health insurance too, it 176 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: didn't something. 177 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: Like yeah, So it was like it was one of 178 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 3: the fears of all Americans is and it happened to me. 179 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 3: I was making really good money, had a lot of savings, 180 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: and then broke my leg and suddenly had to pay 181 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 3: for tool surgeries, emergency room bills, all this stuff. And 182 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: I was in debt. 183 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: In America like something like so Australians, because obviously we 184 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: have a great medicare system in America. What would that like, 185 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: what would did that cost? 186 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: I think my bills were upwards of sixty five thousand dollars. 187 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: Wild yeah, and I had worked hard and save money. 188 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: I had this epic monster truck. I had to sell 189 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: my monster truck and liquify assets just to pay for 190 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 3: surgery and so. 191 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: That I could walk again. 192 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 3: Otherwise they're like, look, if you don't get the surgery, 193 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: like you're going to be in a wheelchair or on crutches. 194 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: And it was pretty serious. So I was really grateful 195 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: that things worked out. And after this life changing moment 196 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: and having this long period of time not being able 197 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 3: to do what I love, it was very clear to me, 198 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: like what direction I wanted to go? I just which 199 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: was surfing. I was like, I need to get my 200 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: head out of the clouds and back into what I 201 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: really want to be doing. And it's not pouring drinks 202 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 3: at nightclubs and partying. It's being in nature and being 203 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 3: connected to something greater than myself and being in the water. 204 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: And so as soon as I could go surfing, I 205 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: went back and lo and behold, one of the bar 206 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: regulars saw me surfing, recognized me, had to chat, and 207 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 3: turned out he was this owner of the major corporation 208 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: and he fully sponsored me, and it wasn't like I 209 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 3: had never done surfing competitions growing up because of how 210 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: I was raised religiously by my parents, competition was not allowed, 211 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: and so to become a pro surfer and not be 212 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 3: in the competition circuit was kind of like a full dream, 213 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: Like there's only a couple of surfers that had ever 214 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: done that, the free surfing thing exactly. 215 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: He kind of. 216 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 3: Herod that movement, but before them, there wasn't really a thing. 217 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: And this guy literally sponsored me. He's like, look, I 218 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: can see this is what you want to do. I 219 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: want to look after you. Here's a monthly salary, here's 220 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: a four year contract. Here's what you need to do 221 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 3: for me, which is basically nothing, take some photos and 222 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: surf well and the rest of the. 223 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: Time do whatever you like. 224 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 225 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: And so that was just like the freedom I needed. 226 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: But also the bartending paid, you know how you kind 227 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: of do It's hard when you're doing something you're like 228 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: this has this is not aligned with my purpose? But 229 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: like how interesting that? Like there is that yeah, and 230 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: you're it's that dharma piece in Yogi, Like it's like 231 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: nothing's wasted, that's it, you know, like it all happened 232 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: for a reason. Yeah oh wow. Okay, so where did 233 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: Astrolia come into the picture. 234 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 3: So when I got that sponsorship, I immediately wanted to travel. 235 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: And one of my best friends growing up on Kawaiah 236 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: had been doing UNI in Sydney and he's living in 237 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: Bondai and you know, always call me. 238 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: He's like, the surf is amazing. 239 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the girls are topless at the beaches, like 240 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: this place is heaven. 241 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: You need to be here. And I was just like, 242 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: saw me, I'm going to Bondy. 243 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 3: So the first thing I did was hop on a plane, 244 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: went to Bandai and rented a room in his apartment. 245 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 3: We lived right on Roscoe Street, behind the police station 246 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: in Bondai, like right. 247 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: There, yeah, yeah, and very well. 248 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 3: Yeah it was It started to open my eyes to 249 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: a new world. 250 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: I've got to say, it's so lovely to hear in 251 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: America and say Bondai and not Bundy. Americans do that 252 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: every time he's there, like Australia Bundy. Okay, so you're 253 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: in Bondi living the dream. It sounds like then what 254 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: got you to mount? Because like I think of you 255 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: as Melbourne right now, and I think if you was 256 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: worrying one yoga. 257 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: Studio that very much so, and so this is pre yoga, Like, yeah, 258 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: even at this time, if you told me that I 259 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: was going to love yoga and be until I. 260 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: Would have been like, yeah, totally, that's not weird. 261 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: Hip had ju jitsu hit you then? 262 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: So it's just surfing, surfing and having a good time 263 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: really ye. And so home base was Bondai for a bit, 264 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: but then when traveling went to Indo, went all around 265 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: Polynesia and just went surfing and all places and it 266 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: was amazing. Three years into that, I met Nova. I 267 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 3: came to Melbourne to visit friends from Bali. I met 268 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: all these guys in bal Are, like, man, you got 269 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 3: to come to Melbourne, it's amazing. And it was yeah, 270 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: good coffee, Yeah, good coffee, amazing night life and. 271 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah food, good food. There's Bell's Beach. 272 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: Second to last day, met Nova and we started hanging 273 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: out and. 274 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: You guys got married. 275 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: We got married within like six months. 276 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: I love that. 277 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: So it wasn't it Nova that made you fall in 278 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: love with the yoags. Didn't Nova do like a thirty 279 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: day challenge or something and you're like no, no, no, nahma. 280 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: And then finally you were like all right, and then 281 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: you were like I love it. 282 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 2: Literally we had been married for five years. 283 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: Oh really, we. 284 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: Had already been married for about five years. 285 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: I had found jiu jitsu and started competing internationally jitu 286 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: and traveling for that. I think it was after I 287 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: went to Brazil. We came back and she did this 288 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: yoga challenge. And before Brazil, I was doing strength and 289 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: conditioning and I came back into that, but it was 290 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 3: like it wasn't serving me. 291 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 2: I was always getting injured. 292 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 3: It was like I was pushing too much and not 293 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: having the energy to do what I actually wanted to do. 294 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: Never did the yoga. 295 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 3: Challenge and that quickly became a thing for her, and 296 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 3: I watched this become a thing for her, and I 297 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 3: was just like, yeah, that's cool. I'm never going to 298 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: do that. Yeah, And she convinced me just kept you know, 299 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: She's like, what, you don't think he can stretch in 300 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: a room full of women for an hour? Like you 301 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: go and train with these sweaty guys and you're still stuff. 302 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 3: And there was like a challenge issued, a challenge issued, 303 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: and I went and it did challenge me, and it 304 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: made me feel amazing and I died. I went to 305 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: a hot yoga class and it absolutely humbled me in 306 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: the most amazing way. And it made me feel good 307 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: though as well, Like you know when you go do 308 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: something and say, like surfing or jujitsu, you did one 309 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: of these things and you're like, I know, I was 310 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: terrible at that, but there's something about that that was 311 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: a I need to do that again. I can see 312 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: why people like it. Yeah, and that's what it was 313 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: for me for yoga. So I did a thirty day 314 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: challenge that turned into a sixty day ninety day. I 315 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 3: just kept on going, kept going to yoga every day, 316 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 3: and it came became very clear that that's what I 317 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: need to be doing. 318 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: I feel lucky enough to done a few of your classes, 319 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: and I've done an Advanced teacher training that you took 320 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: us for a day with Beautiful Duncan, and I like 321 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: the way that you have, Like there's a functional movement 322 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: kind of styled the way you teach. Is that something 323 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: you're passionate about, like because of the jiu jitsu, because 324 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: of like your past. 325 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: I think it comes from being injured, Yeah, being injured 326 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: and not and trying to figure out, like why did 327 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: this happen, and if it happened again, like why did 328 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: this happen again? And then learning from those injuries and 329 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: researching and learning how to fix myself and then noticing like, oh, 330 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: this is a very common thing that many people go through. 331 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 3: And when I started teaching yoga, it became very clear. 332 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: Because I was already teaching jiu jitsu. I had always 333 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: like instructed fitness and surfing and done surfing lessons and guiding, 334 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: but yeah, there's always been part of my life. Yeah, 335 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: so when it came to yoga, I could see, like, 336 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: yoga is, it's building, it's strength building. There's so many 337 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: beautiful aspects, but there is an aspect where people tend 338 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: to fall in habits and patterns that aren't serving them, 339 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: and then what happens is injury. And so when we 340 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: start to create awareness around alignment and function and proper patterning, 341 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: you don't have these problems. And so yoga is to 342 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: ease suffering. We have these scientific knowledge now that the 343 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: ancients really kind of had insight too, but now we 344 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: have the science that backs it up. So I love 345 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 3: a bit of mobility, functional movement, adding those things into 346 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: a yoga flow or into yoga practice without stripping it 347 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: of the spiritual side because I think, oh. 348 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm cutting you on. But I know you can. 349 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: You get to do all the fancy you can do acro, 350 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: you can do all the stuff like you're like handstand king. 351 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: You can do all the fun stuff that I can't do. 352 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: I can only backban. That's my only party trick. Give 353 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: me a backband. I can walk down the wall like 354 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: that's it. As soon as you put me on my 355 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: hands and flick me upside down. The fear it's It's 356 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: a lot. 357 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: And like I didn't start like that. I was scared 358 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: of it all. And it was really confronting. Like people 359 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 3: look at me and they're like, oh, you've always you've 360 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 3: been an athlete, you're always good at you do too. 361 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: I was shit, really. I was literally like a rock. 362 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: When you go to a yoga class and someone's like, 363 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 3: it's my first first day and you see their feet 364 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 3: together and their knees or by their shoulders and they're like, yeah, 365 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 3: this is my cross. 366 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: That was me. 367 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 3: I was literally so stiff. And it wasn't just physical, 368 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 3: it was attitude. It was like the way I was 369 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 3: was very kind of like I'm only like this and 370 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 3: very rigid, and that tightness had of my own personality 371 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: and attitude had been is reflecting my physical body. So 372 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: it took a lot of hard work and also a 373 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 3: lot of like shifting of perspectives and growth to realize like, 374 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 3: I'm holding myself in this state that isn't serving me. 375 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 3: And I think it's really benefited me to come from 376 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: this type place and now to work hard and be 377 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: able to do the splits and to do handstands and 378 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 3: do all these things that scare the shit out of 379 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: me and that I thought I was never being able 380 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: to do. Like there's poses in yoga like flip grip 381 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 3: and catch your back foot and I never ever thought 382 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 3: I would ever be able to do these things, and 383 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 3: now I'm doing them and it blows my own mind. 384 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 3: And it just constant yoga always shows me that what 385 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 3: I believe my limitations are are completely false. That the 386 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: ceiling that I put and I'm like, oh that's my limit, 387 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: flick it just completely smash it. Yes, self imposed, But can. 388 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: I say, You've just touched on something that's really cool 389 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: about yourself, Like you do have a very hard working mentality, 390 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: like you even just all this stuff you've talked to 391 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: me about to go from like a beginner of jiu 392 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: jitsu to black bout jiu jitsu, Like that's a very 393 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: that's a big journey, Like and this is a testament 394 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: to you, Like I think you have the mentality, and 395 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: I've read an interview where you're like, I'll have a 396 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: passion and I will obsess over that passion, And I 397 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: think that that's where your success has come from. Definitely, 398 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: Again a statement, not a question. I do have a 399 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: question for you though. And I did muy thai for 400 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: quite a few years, and I remember my coach I 401 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, there's so many parallels to yoga, 402 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: like the respect, the bowing before you enter muay thai ring, 403 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: like there's and also like being present connected to breath, 404 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: Like there are so many things that are so connected 405 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: to yoga. Is that the same with jiu jitsu? Is 406 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: there a connection between yoga and jiu jitsu? 407 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: Definitely? And I started jiu jitsu first, and y're the secondary. 408 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 3: Yoga made me realize that so many times and so 409 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 3: many situations I was making it worse by simply focusing 410 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: on the wrong thing or not breathing properly, and we 411 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: all have these facilities, but we often get stuck in 412 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: our head. If we can be completely present to what 413 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 3: actually is happening instead of the story that's running through 414 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: our mind, it kind of shifts things. And I think 415 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: the parallels between yoga and jiu jitsu are so immense, 416 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 3: like there are so and they benefit each other in 417 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: such a major way. I view jiu jitsu as very 418 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 3: yang and yoga as the yin aspect, but they low 419 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 3: together like yin and yang. And I've noticed in my 420 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 3: own life if I'm not careful and only focus on yoga, 421 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: it kind of takes me. There is something that builds 422 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 3: up inside of me that doesn't get released, and jiu 423 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: jitsu helps me release that in a very positive way. 424 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. 425 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 3: So I think they're complimentary and they do have very 426 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 3: a lot of parallels, a lot of similarities, but it 427 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 3: is a very different thing because yoga is very personal. 428 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 3: Jiu jitsu is as well, but you have to do 429 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: it with another person, like there is that contact and 430 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 3: that stimulus from the outside kind of force, and so 431 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 3: you master yourself and how you move on your by 432 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 3: yourself in yoga, and then jiu jitsu allows you to 433 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: then apply those that strength, that movement your attributes in 434 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 3: a unique way in another format. 435 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: How cool is that? 436 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 2: That's pretty cool? 437 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: So talk to me about war are you one? 438 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 2: Like? 439 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: How did it come about? How did like I imagine? I mean, 440 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: I've never opened to yoga histor year before, but I've 441 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: opened this movie by and mate, it's bloody hard. It's 442 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: not easy, and it's not all like oh hippie peaches 443 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: and green like. There is a business side. You've got 444 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: P and L. You've got to make sure that your 445 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: staff has looked after correctly. As you know, you've got 446 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: a lot on your shoulders when it turns into a 447 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: business like what made you guys go? All right, let's 448 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: bring this to people. 449 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 3: Me and Nova were married. We're not married anymore. We 450 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: were married for seventeen years. 451 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: You're still good mates. 452 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're really good mates. We are great business partners. Yeah. 453 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: And after spending that much that many years with a person, 454 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: you know them so well. 455 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. And two, I think like the way we ended 456 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 3: was beautiful and the way we continue to interact like it. 457 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: Not that we don't have challenges, not that there's not 458 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 3: moments where we snap at each other, but we always 459 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: remember and come back and so that is a beautiful thing. 460 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 3: So I think, how is it done? It was a 461 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: partnership and it still is business partners not life partners. 462 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 3: But this partnership there's very clear roles and I'm I 463 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 3: do what I do and I'm passionate about those things. 464 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: What's your what's your teaching. 465 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 3: Yoga connection, community, like doing the thing, being with the people, 466 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 3: and when things get need to get done, I'm not 467 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 3: scared to step in and do the things that need 468 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: to get done. Like you know, people think, you know, 469 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: yoga studio, just teach classes and show up and make 470 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: beautiful playlists, and it's this thing. It's like, no, literally 471 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: every day I have to clean the studio. Yeah, I'm 472 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 3: literally pick them at hairs and straightening mats every single day. 473 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: Like it's not glamorous, but that little those little pieces 474 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: allow the whole thing just to flow. And so I 475 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: think partnership is huge. But what made us decide to 476 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 3: do it. We wanted to have lifestyle that really was 477 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: in aligned with what we love and what the passions 478 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: in life are. And so it's like I want to 479 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: be spending my time feeling good chatting to people, sharing 480 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: mindset and movement, and at the same time, I want 481 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: to make sure that I'm involved with something that will 482 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: perpetuate my own wellbeing and longevity. And so you could, 483 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 3: you know, of course, work in a cafe and like 484 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 3: that was a dream before. It's like, oh, I could 485 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 3: open an amazing cafe, or I could open this, And 486 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: the more we looked into it, yoga is the only answer. 487 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: It's like, why would we do anything else but yoga. 488 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: So started small that quickly built and as you said, 489 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. It's insane, like the amount of work involved 490 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 3: with opening a business and running it. And it goes 491 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: from like I just want to teach an amazing yoga 492 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 3: class and people have an amazing experience, like okay, what 493 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 3: about when your when there, your app doesn't work or 494 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 3: this and that, and they just change schedules and then 495 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 3: this teacher membership. 496 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 2: Oh my, oh my god. 497 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 3: So there's there's so much behind the scenes that people 498 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 3: you know, it's it's just a yoga studio must be 499 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: so easy. It's like there's a lot of work involved, 500 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 3: and I'm super grateful for the team that we have 501 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 3: behind us that help us do these things. So teamwork 502 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: makes it dream work. I could not do this by myself. 503 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: I could teach lots of awesome classes and things like that, 504 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 3: but to run a successful studio, you need that backbone 505 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 3: of support behind you. And it's not just the teacher, 506 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: because I'm sure I know some amazing teachers that have 507 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: open studios, but without the kind of like business aspect 508 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 3: and the intrastructure behind you, it falls apart. 509 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. What would you say? This is 510 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: probably a true prong question, like what's your yoga philosophy 511 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: and what's warrior ones? It's probably the same thing, I imagine. 512 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: Is it connection? Is it community? 513 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: Flow evolve unite? Oh it's warrior one. Yeah, flow evolve unite. 514 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: So I would say in my own life it's very similar. 515 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: Yes's like flow flu life. Try to be fluid and 516 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 3: flexible and strong, never stop evolving. Always that beginner's mindset, 517 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 3: white belt mentality, like there's nothing that you can't stop 518 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 3: evolving and learning, even if you know something intimately and expertly, 519 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 3: like there's a new perspective and there's always something to 520 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 3: be be discovered. And then unite that connection because like 521 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 3: by yourself, it's not that fun. 522 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 2: Like it's amazing. 523 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 3: Life's a beautiful experience, right, but like yeah, relationships, community, 524 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 3: like yeah, it's the richness of life. It makes it 525 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 3: it makes it so much more special when you need 526 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: to share that with others totally. 527 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, I can't have you on the pod without 528 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: like asking a few Yogi nerd questions. So, say someone's 529 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 1: listening to this pod right now and they're like everyone, 530 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: the first thing people say is I can't touch the ground, 531 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, like you heard all the like I'm not 532 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: flex flesh yoga. Yeah, yeah, I'm not flex flakn't do yoga. 533 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: Like for someone listening going, oh, I kind of want 534 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: to do yoga. It is intimidating to walk into a 535 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: yoga studio, like it can be. It can be especially 536 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: like if you walk in and there's like fifty people 537 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: all on their mats, you know, doing like a beautiful 538 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: like I'm kind of heart open and while they're waiting. 539 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: For class to what did I walk into? 540 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: Like, so, what's your advice to a real newbie that thinks, 541 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: h I kind of want to try. I'm scared, Like, 542 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, I don't look like a pretzel, Like, am 543 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: I not going to. 544 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 2: Be in there? 545 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 3: Are some really good. Okay, empower yourself with knowledge because 546 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 3: we all have these misconceptions and these ideas when we 547 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 3: walk in a room, you know, you walk into the 548 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 3: studio and then teachers there and they creet you. But 549 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 3: then around the teacher are like yoga groupies talking to 550 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 3: the teacher and you feel like they're in a little 551 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: cool club and the teacher is really nice, but those 552 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: people are like borderline, You're not sure. And then go 553 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 3: in the room and like one guy's doing handstands and 554 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 3: another person's like melting on the floor with a million blocks, 555 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 3: and You're like, what is what do I do? 556 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: And I've starting yoga. 557 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 3: If I didn't have a partner to go with, I 558 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 3: think I would have stopped because often I didn't feel 559 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 3: welcome as a man entering the other studios, like why 560 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 3: are you here? And but I was going to feel 561 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: good and I just kept showing up rather those what 562 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 3: didn't let other people's kind of vibes shift me. But 563 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 3: I start to notice it now when it really happens. 564 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 3: When I go to studios now and people give me 565 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 3: that vibe, I'm like, what's going on with you? It's 566 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 3: actually it's like, yeah, it's not actually me. So if 567 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 3: you're scared to go to yoga, like what do I do? 568 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 3: Go online and search before my first yoga class. Worry 569 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 3: one has a blog on this. I know we have 570 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: a blog on but there are millions. I guarantee there's 571 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: thousands of blog articles and what I should know before 572 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: my first yoga class, and it'll kind of like speak 573 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: to these specific points and it'll save you so much 574 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 3: suffering and so much pain. I wish that someone had 575 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 3: written these dot points out for me and sent them 576 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: to me, because I had to learn them. But I 577 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: all learned the hard way by just going over and 578 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 3: over and figuring it out. But I wish someone told 579 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: me that no one's watching you. 580 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: No one is watching it. 581 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: I like that you say like you were just going 582 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: to feel good, and I think if that's your mantra 583 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: going in, I just want to feel good, that's probably 584 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: what's going to get you coming back. Yeah, And that like, 585 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: even if eighty percent of the class is really hard 586 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, fuck my life. While 587 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: I come to this class, if there's twenty percent of like, 588 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: oh oh, hang on a sec, it just feels really good. 589 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: It's it's really good to connect movement to breath or 590 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, like to box breathe for five minutes or 591 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: whatever it is. You know, like there's there's you usually 592 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: some kind of gift that you'll get from a class, 593 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: even if there's a bit that you're like, oh that 594 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: bit was really fun, or I couldn't like in advanced classes, 595 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: like I was saying, like, all stay in dolphin when 596 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: people are doing fancy stuff and I'm like, fuck, I'm 597 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: strengthening my shoulders. I'm doing something that's still like really challenging. 598 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: Oh benefit right, Yeah, I think. 599 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: It's so easy to get stuck and I'm like, oh, 600 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: this person's watching me, or I didn't do that good enough. 601 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: And yoga really is for everybody, and you start to 602 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 3: really lies and so often you're in your head, you 603 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 3: can't decipher. Teachers are always saying this stuff, but then 604 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 3: we make up our own stories and we hear it 605 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: in our own interpreted way. But you're constantly being encouraged 606 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: to honor how you feel, to deeply listen to the 607 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: feedback your body's giving you, to not push into pain 608 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 3: or discomfort that isn't of benefit. All these lessons that 609 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 3: you learn on your mat are directly applicable in your 610 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 3: life off the mat. And that's one of the biggest 611 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: things I started to see. I started to notice, like, 612 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 3: I'm putting myself in these poses on the yoga mat 613 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 3: and even though they're uncomfortable, I can breathe. 614 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: I can be okay in it. 615 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: When I'm uncomfortable in life, I'm in a situation that 616 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: I don't really like or want to be in, or 617 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 3: it's giving me anxiety, I can take a breath. It 618 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: can be a little more present. There's something I can 619 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 3: feel good in this moment, and if I focus on that, 620 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 3: it starts to shift things. 621 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: It's like, is it shockshin to bear witness and stand 622 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: in the fire? Is that shockchin in? You know it's 623 00:29:59,240 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: in Sanskrit. 624 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. 625 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: I used to love it because I was like, I'm 626 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: in the fire. 627 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: But I can be. 628 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: Witnessed right now and just breathe. It's so yeah, Yoag's 629 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: is such a gift. I want to ask because I 630 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: could talk to you all day long, but like for people, 631 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: and this is how I got into teacher trainings. I 632 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: think I've done over seven hundred hours of teacher trainings now, 633 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: but like when I first initially did a teacher training, 634 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: I was like, I just want to better my practice 635 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: and my relationship with yoga and just understanding postures and 636 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: getting into them safely and getting out of them safely, 637 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: things like that. But I know you do teacher trainings, 638 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: and can you talk a little bit about would you 639 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: guys do the two hundred hour? 640 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we have two hundred hour. We do two 641 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: intakes per year. It's life changing. 642 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: Wish Matt. We've got to get Matt doing it. I 643 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: think so it'd be such a good yogi teacher. 644 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: It'd be a great yoga teacher. And it's like, whether 645 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: you want to teach or not, it is life tools totally, 646 00:30:54,400 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 3: and often as we go through the training, like we 647 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: work through the chakras, we work through yamas and eyamas. 648 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: But the way we do that at each and every module, 649 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 3: there's a set of kind of questions and inquiry and 650 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 3: that work on its own is extremely powerful. When you 651 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 3: couple that with the yoga practice and the way that 652 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 3: it opens you up, it's a truly life changing experience 653 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 3: for so many people because you ask yourself questions that 654 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 3: you might not have ever considered in your entire life, 655 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 3: and these questions are just like what are your values 656 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 3: from your parents? And is your conditioning what you want 657 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: it to be? You realize you can mold that to 658 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: be whatever you want, and so many people are just 659 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: like wait what. 660 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be quite confronting. I maybe you probably see 661 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: a lot of transformation throughout teacher training. 662 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 3: A lot of transformation, and it's confronting, and sometimes you know, 663 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 3: around hard Chakra week, people have a little freak out. 664 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 3: Oh yes, of course, you know, going from this and this, well, 665 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: it's also like disattaching from this egoic state and moving 666 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: from like this me I me to a WII and 667 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 3: a more connected state to the world and those around you. 668 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 3: So that can bring up a lot for people, but 669 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: it's one of the one of the most rewarding, beautiful 670 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 3: things that I get to be a part of. And 671 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 3: I would say that's one of the one of my 672 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 3: favorite things ever. Really one of my favorite things in 673 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 3: yoga is teaching and leading teacher trainings because I get 674 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 3: to watch that transformation. I get to be a fly 675 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 3: on the wall and help hold space and facilitate it. 676 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: But it's literally just. 677 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 3: Being like think about this and then watching people sit 678 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 3: with that and watching them transform. 679 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: I love it. 680 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: It's really well. 681 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: And what about retreats. Do you have any retreats coming out? 682 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 683 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 3: So our retreats are also like teacher training is like 684 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 3: the full commit committed drop in a retreat is like 685 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go dip my toe in in paradise somewhere 686 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: amazing and have the best time. 687 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: So you know, a roha, that. 688 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 3: Place is oh my, and the foot is so it's ridiculous. 689 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 3: It'll it'll convert you to vegan. Even if you're like, 690 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 3: are you plant based? 691 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: No? I have been. 692 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: I have been so beautiful to go plant based when 693 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: you're there. 694 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: When you're there, I go straight plant based. It's amazing. 695 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: I tear. 696 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 3: I wish I could bring the cooking home, the chef 697 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 3: team home with me. 698 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: That would be life changing. But I like I like. 699 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: I'm a flexitarian. I'm flexible with it. 700 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: I like fast. 701 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: I intermitted fast. 702 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 3: Usually don't eat till two pm and then two to 703 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 3: ten is my window. I've been doing that for some years. 704 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 3: Works really well for me. Other people have asked me 705 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 3: and then they've tried it. 706 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: I loves it works for me. A lot of females 707 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: don't like it that much because of our hormones, but 708 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: I get PCOS. I have PCOS so in and fasting 709 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: is such a good one for me for regulating blood sugar. 710 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 3: Amazing, right, Yeah, I like it just because I feel 711 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 3: like I recover better and I like that feeling of 712 00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 3: lightness in the morning so much nicer. So going vegan 713 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: time and nature different experience. It's winter and so hiking 714 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 3: through the snow it's like Lord. 715 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: Of the Ring. 716 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 3: It's it's so surreal being there and hiking through some 717 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 3: of those and. 718 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 1: They do that mindful hiking right where you on your own. 719 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 3: And just quiet, nothing but the sound of nature. We 720 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: got one coming up next one it believe is in June, 721 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 3: so June, and then we go to Thailand every year. 722 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 3: That's also that is a transformational retreat. So many people 723 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 3: go on it, and we had this year. We had 724 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: so many people go solo and then they went alone, 725 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 3: they didn't bring a friend or partner, and then within 726 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 3: like two or three days they have this epic community 727 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 3: of friends and at Wonderlust on the weekend they had 728 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 3: a little group and they all went together and they 729 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 3: do epic ket ketchups and so it makes me so 730 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 3: happy to see that carry on effect. We have this 731 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 3: epic experience on retreat. We do amazing things, we connect, 732 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 3: but then those connections last. 733 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 1: Yes, of course, because you're cracking that harding open. Yeah. 734 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 3: And then to be in a room with other people 735 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 3: that are allowing themselves to be vulnerable, to drop down 736 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 3: the mask, to talk about things that are much deeper 737 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 3: than the superficial layer, and to hold space for others 738 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 3: when they have these emotional realizations and breakthroughs, and it's 739 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 3: really special. 740 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: Makes me want to do a retreat with you. Let 741 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: me know next time. 742 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really it's really special. So yeah, trainings and retreats, 743 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 3: that's just you know. I love public classes, don't get 744 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 3: me wrong. They're absolutely beautiful. And I love being in the 745 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 3: studio and that energy we. 746 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: Canerio's having Ninja with you though. There was such a party. 747 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 2: Here's my sidekick. 748 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, this beautiful STAFFI right. 749 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, beautiful staffy that would come to all my yold classes. 750 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: He would just come everywhere with me. To be honest, 751 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 3: like he never left my sigh. He went in the shadow, 752 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 3: didn't ever have to wear a lead because he was 753 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 3: so obedient and the yolda classes. He would either sit 754 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 3: by my mat or in the back of class and 755 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 3: is a little bad. We'd start class and he'd start 756 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 3: snoring right away, and OJA. Breathing for him was like, yeah, 757 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 3: maybe breathe in the back and then Shavarsna. You wouldn't 758 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 3: hear a peep until I said, take a breath, and 759 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 3: then you'd hear him from big doggie snore and then 760 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 3: he'd be going and yeah, it was amazing. So I 761 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 3: miss him so much. Yeah, he's in Doggie Heaven. 762 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: I have to There's a few things I need to 763 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: say before I let you go. First of all, I 764 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: think you and I both love There's a song. This 765 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: is because I've just deep dive and done a few 766 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: interviews with you. That Bad Karma song. Oh how good 767 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:36,959 Speaker 1: is it to do yoga? 768 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 2: That's a great song. 769 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: That's so great for yoga because it like builds, especially 770 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: if you're in a flow. 771 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that song. 772 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: Second thing, you have got me so flaming addicted to 773 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: these cookies in LA And every time I'm like, they 774 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: bring out new flavors and they do this like freakin butterscotch, blondie, 775 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: plant plant based. Is it called delucious or delicious or something. 776 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 2: One of those. 777 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 3: I don't remember the name, but I know the cookie 778 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 3: and literally, like I look at them, I'm like, don't 779 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 3: buy it. Don't buy the cookie. It's five it's five 780 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 3: dollars for one cookie. It's not worth it. And then 781 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 3: so good, it's. 782 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: Worth it to the point that, you know, I like 783 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: found their warehouse in Los Angeles. When I was like, 784 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: what's this one, They're like, that's especially and we only 785 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: have here. 786 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, look at that book. 787 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: I literally think I bought five different cookies and was 788 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: just like, day at a time had a different cookie. 789 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. So but yeah, they're gluten free and 790 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: they're plant based and you would not know they're so good. 791 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: So I blame you. I blame you for this La 792 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: addiction that I have, just so you know, Yes, thank 793 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: you for jumping on the pod, my friend. 794 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: Thank you for having that was fun. 795 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: I've wanted to have you on for a while and 796 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: it's so good. We've got no hurdles this time, nothing 797 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: stopping as doing this pod together. And thank you for 798 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: being a mate as well, and especially when I was 799 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: a bit lonely in La you always reached out and checked. 800 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, even though I lived literally the 801 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: other side of Los Angeles at the time, but yeah, 802 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: you're a good mate. I appreciate it. 803 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 2: Os is in us look after each other. 804 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,240 Speaker 1: Totally friend. 805 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 2: Thank you. 806 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 807 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation 808 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:20,439 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollerberry. 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