Speaker 1: Come on Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Alla, Happy hump day, everybody, Happy hump Day.
Speaker 3: I love hump Day. Laura's got her foot up on
Speaker 3: the desk.
Speaker 4: But we all get itchy feet. You're doing a radio show,
Speaker 4: you don't.
Speaker 2: It's like when you can't commit to something, isn't it?
Speaker 2: That's like what that means?
Speaker 4: No, that's coming into money.
Speaker 5: I think it means.
Speaker 2: It's not between my toes. It's not like a gross
Speaker 2: part of my foot. Were talking about my feet way
Speaker 2: too much on the show. It's like just the sign
Speaker 2: around my ankle. It's so weird, like I just got
Speaker 2: bitten by something.
Speaker 4: Anyway, I've googled it. What does it? Chi feet mean?
Speaker 3: Many situations can clean to It's saying moisture dry or
Speaker 3: tin or parasites.
Speaker 2: No, you know how they say things like the apple
Speaker 2: never falls far from the tree. I'm pretty sure when
Speaker 2: you've got itchy feet, it means that you can't commit.
Speaker 5: You're run out of there, you're married.
Speaker 4: Here we go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Apparently an old superstition is if the soul of
Speaker 3: your foot is itchy, it he said that you will
Speaker 3: walk on strange ground.
Speaker 5: Oh where am I going after this?
Speaker 4: Really? We got to the bottom of that guys.
Speaker 3: Hey, on the show today, I have very exciting baby
Speaker 3: news in my world.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Mean, we know, we're so excited.
Speaker 3: You've been through a lot with me on this show.
Speaker 3: You know, big breakups, big new relationships, partners, and there's
Speaker 3: a new stage in my life. I'm still at home
Speaker 3: with my parents, but there is big baby news.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. When I had my baby, I was
Speaker 5: living in a sharehouse.
Speaker 4: That makes me feel so much better.
Speaker 5: That's probably going to come as a shock to some listeners.
Speaker 2: Or lived in a share house with Matt's best friends
Speaker 2: when she was born. We moved out to two weeks
Speaker 2: before she was bornly received how I was, Well, I
Speaker 2: did my whole entire pregnant in a sharehouse.
Speaker 3: Really, And I know everyone would have thought Britt would
Speaker 3: be the next one with like baby news, with the
Speaker 3: IVF journey and the engagement.
Speaker 5: Well the sharehouse. She screams, pregnant in the sharehouse. I've
Speaker 5: got them, I've got kids, but they're just in the freezer.
Speaker 4: Yeah they're on ice.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I've got baby news, and mine are in this world.
Speaker 3: I'm going to let's go to a break. When we
Speaker 3: come back, I'm going to share. I think some of
Speaker 3: the most exciting news I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 5: What bread was so excited for you, Mitch.
Speaker 3: That's after this here on the pickup, Welcome to Wednesday.
Speaker 3: I this week became an uncle.
Speaker 5: Okay. I was so happy for you.
Speaker 2: You're so happy for Becky, for your sister, but also
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 4: This is such a big moment for me.
Speaker 3: It's the first baby in the family, my beautiful sister Becky,
Speaker 3: who's been on this.
Speaker 4: Show before many times, many times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she gave birth to the first baby in the family,
Speaker 3: baby Remy, thirty seven weeks.
Speaker 4: She's a gorgeous little girl.
Speaker 3: And with my brother in law Kurt, happy, healthy, I
Speaker 3: feel like a different man. Even though it's not my baby.
Speaker 3: There's something going on in my body, my hormones.
Speaker 5: Her Okay, mane.
Speaker 4: Baby, and I think this is part of me.
Speaker 2: I understand this, Mitch, because I remember when my sister
Speaker 2: had her very first so she's got a little boy
Speaker 2: and a girl. But when she had Archer, my nephew,
Speaker 2: my very first nephew, I had this real feeling.
Speaker 5: It just was different. I was like, oh, this is
Speaker 5: my baby. I'm now an auntie.
Speaker 2: But also I'm a mom, Like, I'm sorry, Alicia, but
Speaker 2: I'm vet. It felt really different for me, but also
Speaker 2: I think from us as well. With Becky having a baby,
Speaker 2: there's so much more load into this. Becky's been on
Speaker 2: the show, She's spoken about how hard her health battles
Speaker 2: have been over the last year having MS, and this
Speaker 2: is just such a huge and incredible change in life.
Speaker 5: Like, we're so excited for her, so much so I
Speaker 5: sent a photo of myself bawling my eyes out in
Speaker 5: our group chat.
Speaker 4: I know, I got a photo of it.
Speaker 3: I got a photo of Remy. And first of all,
Speaker 3: they didn't tell me the gender. They're like, born seventeen seventeen, Remy,
Speaker 3: and then.
Speaker 4: It's just a baby. All babies look like blobs.
Speaker 5: Also, Remy doesn't really.
Speaker 4: Remy's gender neutral, so my, oh my god, boy girl,
Speaker 4: boy girl. I didn't find out for two hours. They
Speaker 4: were so stressed with the birth of the baby.
Speaker 5: Maybe they're trying to keep a gender neuse. They are beautiful.
Speaker 5: That is a beautiful baby, this.
Speaker 3: Little baby girl. And I sent it to the group
Speaker 3: chat and Laura was sobbing.
Speaker 2: Sobbing, And then I saw the photo of myself that
Speaker 2: I sat and I was like, God, I need to
Speaker 2: book myself in for some botox.
Speaker 5: So I did that straight afterwards. I love it. That's
Speaker 5: what you thought. You know, some people are pretty criers
Speaker 5: and some people are ugly cries.
Speaker 3: And did God, I'm an ugly cryer. No, I just think, like,
Speaker 3: and you know your sister Sherry's pregnant, brit.
Speaker 1: Yep, She's having a baby in like seven weeks, her
Speaker 1: first baby.
Speaker 5: So I'm super excited.
Speaker 4: I just sudden came over me.
Speaker 3: I'm so proud of Becky, Like she was so so
Speaker 3: scared truthfully about living with MS. She's only diagnosed this year.
Speaker 3: Having this baby. She had to get a caesar, and
Speaker 3: the whole family were worried and scared. And the Cheery
Speaker 3: family are so close, like you know us, Yeah, we
Speaker 3: were all obsessed with each other.
Speaker 4: I still live at home. My other sister lives at home.
Speaker 3: Like the royal function that happened after this baby was born,
Speaker 3: Michelle Truy, Like she.
Speaker 4: Sat down on the couch. She's now a grandma.
Speaker 3: She gets the phone book out, she calls everyone she's
Speaker 3: ever had an interaction with.
Speaker 4: And she did it the same way. She went Hello Annie, Karen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Grandma here, like the same joke the first time.
Speaker 4: That's good for you.
Speaker 3: And an hour later, Hello Sam from Coles who serves
Speaker 3: me on a Sunday Grandma who.
Speaker 5: So beautiful?
Speaker 4: Is what it is?
Speaker 1: Fair?
Speaker 2: You did call me and I was like hello you
Speaker 2: like Hi, it's Uncle Mitch your mum's gear.
Speaker 4: I love to plagiarize gear, you really do.
Speaker 5: Definitely a Mitchchury thing I did.
Speaker 4: But I'm an uncle.
Speaker 3: So when you listening to this show, now you know
Speaker 3: that's been what's missing. You know on this show we
Speaker 3: talk to mums all the time, mums picking up kids
Speaker 3: in cars.
Speaker 5: Now you understand.
Speaker 4: Now you can go, I can write that game man.
Speaker 5: Now now it's pick up with Britt, Laura and Uncle Mitch.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Rebrand Well.
Speaker 2: Okay, from all of us, genuinely, we could not be
Speaker 2: happy for Becky. It's such a beautiful and special time
Speaker 2: and for your whole family.
Speaker 5: It's incredible. We're so so thrilled for you guys.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of babies, there is a documentary that's on
Speaker 2: Netflix at the moment that has absolutely gone viral, and
Speaker 2: it's The Men with a Thousand Kids. This Netflix series honestly,
Speaker 2: it's all around sperm donation and the ways in which
Speaker 2: some people are accessing this donation via things like Facebook, Marketplace.
Speaker 2: It's so fascinating and we're gonna be talking about it
Speaker 2: next all.
Speaker 4: Right, it's on my way here at the pickup well, which.
Speaker 5: We've just been talking about.
Speaker 2: Your beautiful sister having a baby, remember the first baby
Speaker 2: if the Trury family.
Speaker 5: Cute and dining, and she's beautiful. She's so beautiful.
Speaker 2: But this's got me thinking about a Netflix special that
Speaker 2: I've been watching recently. And I don't know if you
Speaker 2: guys have seen this yet, but everyone in my friendship
Speaker 2: group is talking about this. It's The Man with a
Speaker 2: Thousand Kids. It's on Netflix. It centers around this guy.
Speaker 2: His name's Jonathan Meyer, and no one knows exactly how
Speaker 2: many children he has bothered, but as one could figure
Speaker 2: out from the title, people think it is upwards of
Speaker 2: a thousand children, so he Basically what happened is in
Speaker 2: the Netherlands, he was giving his sperm away to people
Speaker 2: like on Facebook, Marketplace, on the Internet, throughout these different
Speaker 2: websites that were set up for the Dark's Back, where
Speaker 2: yes it really is, but also come out it's come
Speaker 2: out that it wasn't just in the Netherlands. There's people
Speaker 2: in Australia that have earth children to him. There are
Speaker 2: people all over the world that have birth children around
Speaker 2: the world. No, he's been traveling, so he's actually a
Speaker 2: YouTuber and a musician. Right, So he's traveled the world
Speaker 2: and every place that he goes to he's making sperm deposits.
Speaker 2: And then sometimes it's through sperm banks, but more often
Speaker 2: than not it's actually through like unofficial sources things like
Speaker 2: basebook marketplace.
Speaker 1: So hang on, laws is he doing this because you know,
Speaker 1: not all heroes were capes and he just wants to
Speaker 1: help people out Or is he making.
Speaker 5: Money from it or is it some weird power trip. No,
Speaker 5: so apparently he doesn't make much money at all. Like
Speaker 5: it's quite in terms of how he sees it. It's
Speaker 5: quite altruistic that he's like, I've got great.
Speaker 2: Sperm and I want to give the gift of life
Speaker 2: to as many people as possible.
Speaker 1: Hang on, if he's traveling the world he's making bank
Speaker 1: from this.
Speaker 2: No, he's not doing it as a I mean, if
Speaker 2: you look at his YouTube, he's definitely not a wealthy
Speaker 2: man by any means, and I don't think that donating sperm.
Speaker 5: Makes you a lot of money as a career choice.
Speaker 2: But the laws in the Netherlands is that if you're
Speaker 2: donating sperm, you're not supposed to father any more than
Speaker 2: twenty five children. So the fact that he's exceeded this
Speaker 2: by like god knows how many. He says he thinks
Speaker 2: it's more around the five hundred and fifty mark, but
Speaker 2: the documentary goes into saying it's a thousand. Now the
Speaker 2: problem is is that now it's come out that there's
Speaker 2: all these kids to this man, which then creates like
Speaker 2: the issue of all these children growing up in the
Speaker 2: same town who are all siblings or half siblings, and
Speaker 2: then like they sleep together, yes, and then falling in
Speaker 2: love with each other and going to the same university
Speaker 2: and meeting their half brother and having a relationship with them.
Speaker 2: That originally I had that thought of like, Okay, who's
Speaker 2: crazy enough to go and do this? But then I
Speaker 2: kind of had to step back a little bit and
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm in such a privileged position that
Speaker 2: I have my own sperm bank walking around the house
Speaker 2: at home, you know, I don't need to worry about
Speaker 2: where I'm getting mine from to make children, But I mean,
Speaker 2: you would have to consider this people who are in
Speaker 2: same sex relationships or people who are not in a
Speaker 2: relationship but are desperate to have a baby.
Speaker 5: It is so hard, there's such a wait.
Speaker 2: List for getting access to sperm that then it kind
Speaker 2: of made me rethink. I understand why, if you're desperate,
Speaker 2: you might go to these sorts of resources to try
Speaker 2: and get a bit of help.
Speaker 3: It's a good discussion, but then clearly now the ethics
Speaker 3: need to be outlined and there needs to be an
Speaker 3: infrastructure that can make something like this actually happen, because
Speaker 3: it is very beneficial. But you're right, kids getting with
Speaker 3: siblings down the track is not what we see.
Speaker 1: I one hundred percent understand the people that are looking
Speaker 1: to get the sperm from Facebook marketplace like there.
Speaker 5: Of course they are.
Speaker 1: There is such a limiting factor or limiting number of
Speaker 1: available donations in Australia. I have multiple friends in same
Speaker 1: sex relationships that have had to go to other countries
Speaker 1: to get what they need to go and procreate. So
Speaker 1: I understand the feeling of desperation to go to a
Speaker 1: place like.
Speaker 5: This, but I don't think I'm gonna have to do
Speaker 5: some research.
Speaker 1: I don't think I can get on board with this ethically,
Speaker 1: there's a lot wrong with it. You don't know where
Speaker 1: it's from. You're not doing the same testing, there's not
Speaker 1: the same screening. So it's for me, I understand it,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't necessarily mean I think it's completely okay.
Speaker 2: There's also the risks that are involved that that's what
Speaker 2: this documentary goes into, like what people thought they were getting,
Speaker 2: and some people didn't just get deposits.
Speaker 5: Some people actually slept with him. So it's like, here's
Speaker 5: the thing.
Speaker 3: Though, it's so interesting to talk about it, thinking this
Speaker 3: man's in the Netherlands.
Speaker 4: We've done some research here at the pickup.
Speaker 3: There is an Aussie version of this guy who lives
Speaker 3: and breathed in Australia and he's doing the exact same thing.
Speaker 3: He hasn't fathered a thousand kids, and he's a bit
Speaker 3: more ethically focused. But we thought, you know what, let's
Speaker 3: actually go inside the mind of someone who does this
Speaker 3: for a living.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what would make someone want to father that
Speaker 2: many children or even donate sperm in the first place?
Speaker 4: Exactly?
Speaker 3: So he's joining his next Adam Hooper from Sperm Donation Australia.
Speaker 3: He's coming on the show after this on the pickup standby.
Speaker 3: It's going to be fun.
Speaker 4: Laura.
Speaker 3: We know you're obsessed with the Netflix sensation that everyone
Speaker 3: is watching at the moment.
Speaker 4: Man with a thousand kids, I.
Speaker 5: Just think it's so fascinating.
Speaker 2: So if you've missed what it's about, there's a guy
Speaker 2: in the Netherlands who has potentially fathered over a thousand
Speaker 2: children from his sperm donations across the world. But so
Speaker 2: many of those children are like centered in this one
Speaker 2: town in the Netherlands. So now there's this big moral
Speaker 2: and ethical debate going on around how some of those
Speaker 2: kids might end up falling in love with each other.
Speaker 3: And you know, so we wanted to go inside this
Speaker 3: industry because it is an industry and we think this
Speaker 3: is so far away. It's in the Netherlands, stuff like
Speaker 3: this is happening in Australia. On the phone joining us
Speaker 3: live is Adam who but from Sperm Donation Australia. Adam
Speaker 3: has two children and more than fifteen donor children out
Speaker 3: there in the wild. He joins us now to educate
Speaker 3: us on this because it's such an interesting topic. Welcome
Speaker 3: to the pick up, Adam, How are you mate?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm good, I've been I'm well wind watching the
Speaker 6: Thousand Kids show on Netflix, hasn't.
Speaker 5: It My biggest question?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 5: Adam is correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: You don't go through the normal traditional sperm bank sort
Speaker 2: of setups. Do you you have a different way in
Speaker 2: which people can access sperm.
Speaker 6: Well, that's not entirely true. Look, basically these days now
Speaker 6: the weights that clinics for a donor is two years plus.
Speaker 6: So a lot of clinics now are telling them to
Speaker 6: come to sperm Donation Australia, source your donor and then
Speaker 6: take them through that route. So you know, that's the
Speaker 6: thing about spermination Australia is it's more of a personal
Speaker 6: choice because anonymity is dead now the child can find
Speaker 6: out who you are at eighteen regardless, people are deciding
Speaker 6: now that it's probably good to find out from day
Speaker 6: one if they're comfortable with who that Jenne potentially is
Speaker 6: going to be.
Speaker 5: Adam, what made you want to do this?
Speaker 6: I came across a person that it was in the
Speaker 6: same sex relationship and they said that they were looking
Speaker 6: to start a family. I had just had my second
Speaker 6: child at that stage, and I was in a relationship
Speaker 6: and I knew how special it was for me and
Speaker 6: my life to be a parent. And when I got
Speaker 6: to speak to this person, I thought, Wow, this person
Speaker 6: you really deserves, you know, to be worthy of being
Speaker 6: a parent. So then I looked into the clinics and
Speaker 6: then I went to go sign up with a clinic
Speaker 6: and they're like, you don't know who you're going to
Speaker 6: be helping or who's going to pick you. And that
Speaker 6: didn't sit right with me because I didn't want my
Speaker 6: two children having incests. So for me, I had to
Speaker 6: know who I was helping.
Speaker 2: So can you tell me then, if you've got fifteen
Speaker 2: donor kids already, do you have a relationship with those
Speaker 2: children at all? And also, on top of that, what's
Speaker 2: the limit for you? Like, how many donor kids do
Speaker 2: you think you'll bring into the world.
Speaker 6: Well, look, my day's slowed right down now, I've got
Speaker 6: so many donors Now. Back in the pioneer days, when
Speaker 6: Jonathan was around back in twenty fourteen, you know, he
Speaker 6: would do a post and nearly every woman on the
Speaker 6: post was commenting and wanting services. That's because there was
Speaker 6: a lack of donors. Now we've got thousands and thousands
Speaker 6: of donors to choose from, and you know, this documentary
Speaker 6: is just brought through three hundred people we had to
Speaker 6: screen through in the last week week or so. So
Speaker 6: you know. So for me, I'm not really actively looking
Speaker 6: to donate, but every now and then I come across
Speaker 6: a really good person that just captures my interest that
Speaker 6: you know, I feel compelled to help.
Speaker 1: So if people don't, if people wanted to just donate,
Speaker 1: Adam like they want to do a good deed and
Speaker 1: help someone but not be involved, can they do that?
Speaker 6: Look, every donor looks for something different for what suits
Speaker 6: their lifestyle. For me, I like the personal social aspect
Speaker 6: of it. I like to know that the child's going
Speaker 6: all right, and now I helped a good person. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, I don't have like check in we've mean
Speaker 6: sort of demands, but like, you know, just the friendly
Speaker 6: chat here and there that does me fine. And yeah,
Speaker 6: I put the group meetings out there for parents to
Speaker 6: come and let their children meet each other so they
Speaker 6: all feel comfortable and know each other so they don't
Speaker 6: have that risk of incests. You know, the formal channels
Speaker 6: of clinics unless the kids come forward and want to
Speaker 6: reach out to the donor, then the children don't necessarily
Speaker 6: ever meet or know of each other. So you know,
Speaker 6: you're still finding that risk of incest that happens from
Speaker 6: the clinics more likely than this way.
Speaker 3: Wow, nowadays, let's go to a break because I mean,
Speaker 3: we can't just talk sperm our's hand, as much as.
Speaker 4: We'd all love to, you would love to.
Speaker 3: Let's get producer Grace in here, because I think if
Speaker 3: you're in the car listen to this and you're thinking, oh,
Speaker 3: it's a bit mad, I don't know. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, odds are I put money
Speaker 3: on it. You've got a nuclear family, you might be
Speaker 3: in a heterosexual relationship. I think you'd really benefit from
Speaker 3: hearing Grace's side, someone who is actually at the precipice
Speaker 3: of doing this asself. Yeah, I'm so Grace Epe joining
Speaker 3: us next on the pickup.
Speaker 5: Hey, if you're just joining us.
Speaker 1: We've been talking a lot about kids and IVY pro
Speaker 1: creation going down the right channels and the wrong channels,
Speaker 1: and the reason that that is is because this Netflix
Speaker 1: documentary Man with a Thousand Kids has been going viral.
Speaker 5: It's exactly what it sounds like.
Speaker 1: It's a man that is spreading his seed left, right
Speaker 1: and center, and he has a thousand kids around the world.
Speaker 5: Go to kids. So we did speak to our very
Speaker 5: own version of that in Australia. His name is Adam.
Speaker 1: He has been doing the same thing on a lesser scale,
Speaker 1: more monitored fifteen. I mean it's no, but he runs sorry,
Speaker 1: he's done fifteen, but he runs a group for it
Speaker 1: that is not mainstream IVF clinic. It's just a group
Speaker 1: on Facebook online where you can go and swap eggs
Speaker 1: for sperm or donate sperm. But we have our very
Speaker 1: own executive producer, Grace, who is married to her beautiful
Speaker 1: wife Diana, and happened to be a member of this group.
Speaker 5: Grace, you're going down this track, are you?
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I've been a member of Sperm Donation Australia
Speaker 7: for probably the last three or four years. No, purely
Speaker 7: because I was just fascinated and then you know, it
Speaker 7: got to a point where I was like, I'm going
Speaker 7: to marry this woman, so I need to start figuring
Speaker 7: out what my options are and that kind of thing,
Speaker 7: and it was just really fascinating to see when it
Speaker 7: was a smaller scale, and it's grown a lot in
Speaker 7: the last couple of years, and you see all these
Speaker 7: babies born, people asking for things, having discussions about co
Speaker 7: parenting and stuff like that. It's really fascinating to be
Speaker 7: a part of RAY.
Speaker 5: So why would you?
Speaker 2: And I think the big ethical question that everyone kind
Speaker 2: of goes to, especially people who don't have to ever
Speaker 2: consider the idea of getting a sperm donation, is like,
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you go through an IVF clinic. Why wouldn't
Speaker 2: you go through a registered source. You know it's safe,
Speaker 2: you know they do the testing. Why is it that
Speaker 2: so many women who are looking for or people who
Speaker 2: are looking for sperm donations are doing it through that
Speaker 2: are like an unregistered way or like a Facebook marketplace,
Speaker 2: Because it seems crazy.
Speaker 5: It does seem crazy.
Speaker 7: But I think the biggest selling point going through a
Speaker 7: known donor or someone you meet on a Facebook group,
Speaker 7: for me personally, is that when you go through like
Speaker 7: an IVF or go through a sperm bank, your child
Speaker 7: can't know who that person is until they're eighteen.
Speaker 5: They can find out everything at eighteen.
Speaker 7: But I think it's really fascinating and I've been reading
Speaker 7: a lot from donor conceived children who are now grown
Speaker 7: up and have been through that experience themselves, and I
Speaker 7: think it's so fascinating when they're like, every child has
Speaker 7: the right to know biologically where they came from, their
Speaker 7: cultural backgrounds, their family, medical history, that kind of thing,
Speaker 7: and it's really important to me that that person that
Speaker 7: my child would know who their biological parents are.
Speaker 5: But you get that information through an IVF clinic, right, yeah,
Speaker 5: But they can't.
Speaker 7: They can learn all their medical history and stuff, but
Speaker 7: they can't then have a connection with that. I think
Speaker 7: the shocking thing here that a lot of people in
Speaker 7: the car listening wouldn't know is that there is up
Speaker 7: to a two year wait at an IVF clinic to
Speaker 7: get as boom donation, especially even if you're happy with
Speaker 7: what's on offer.
Speaker 5: And I say what's on offer, because there's not that many.
Speaker 1: No, I know a lot of people that go overseas
Speaker 1: to get it because they go through the Australian books
Speaker 1: and they're not happy. And I guess that's a huge
Speaker 1: reason we're seeing people go into these underground absolutely, especially
Speaker 1: if you do happen to have more things around what
Speaker 1: you're looking for in a donor. For example, my wife
Speaker 1: is Filipino.
Speaker 7: I intend on carrying our child, but we'd really like,
Speaker 7: you know, our baby to share cultural heritage from both
Speaker 7: of us, so we would love a donor that happens
Speaker 7: to be Filipino.
Speaker 2: Do you ever worry about the safety of this sort
Speaker 2: of situation? And I think that's the big thing is
Speaker 2: everyone's like, well, if it's not from a registered source,
Speaker 2: it's not safe. But I mean also hooking up with
Speaker 2: some random guide and nightclubs it doesn't feel particularly safe
Speaker 2: to me either.
Speaker 5: But is that a consideration for you?
Speaker 7: Definitely, and I probably will go down the route of
Speaker 7: like testing anything that that kind of thing. But like
Speaker 7: you said, you hook up with a stranger in a
Speaker 7: club and you get pregnant, nobody's done any genetic testing there,
Speaker 7: nobody's you know, got a family medical history.
Speaker 5: Like, it's the risk you take in any situation.
Speaker 4: Thanks to boys that got plenty of it. Well up
Speaker 4: next they'll drive you home.
Speaker 5: Mitch is getting fired after this. See you, guys,