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Speaker 1: Last week, correctional staff across the Northern Territory were left

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Speaker 1: you heard from the Chief Minister yesterday. When Parliament resumes

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Speaker 1: this week, the government is set to introduce targeted amendments

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Speaker 1: to the Correctional Services Act of twenty fourteen, now subject

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Speaker 1: to passage through the Legislative Assembly. The Commissioner of Corrections

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Speaker 1: is going to have the power to appoint special officers

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Speaker 1: to supplement the core corrections workforce. These changes will include

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Speaker 1: the secondment of interstate officers and the appointment of specialist officers. Now,

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Speaker 1: the United Workers' Union Secretary Erina Early joins me on

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Speaker 1: the line. Good morning to.

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Speaker 2: You, Erina, morning, Katie, how are you.

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Speaker 1: You're really good? Thank you so much for your time

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Speaker 1: this morning. Now, Erina, correctional officers have raised some really

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Speaker 1: serious concerns with me about these changes. What are they

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Look, we've had a couple of mass member meetings

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Speaker 2: of correctional officers. They're absolutely disappointed. They're frustrated, they're angry.

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Speaker 2: They cannot believe their commissioner and this government are actually

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Speaker 2: putting these place things into place because it is privatization.

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Speaker 2: The Seals promised them they would not privatize the prison.

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Speaker 1: Now, I understand you met with the Corrections Commissioner again yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Is that the case?

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Speaker 2: No, that's not correct.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, So there wasn't another There hasn't been another meeting.

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Speaker 2: No, there's been no meeting. We've requested to meet with

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Speaker 2: the minister as we'd like a briefing of these amendments.

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Speaker 2: We'd like to see copies of their members, but we

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Speaker 1: Keithan okay, So keen to try and keep with Keen

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Speaker 1: Minister Jared Mayley.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's correct, all right.

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Speaker 1: We caught up with Matthew Valley, the Corrections Commissioner, on

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Speaker 1: Friday last week. Now he said that he'd tried to

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Speaker 1: meet with the union. Take a listen to what he

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Speaker 3: To be honest, Katie, I offered the union of briefing

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Speaker 3: yesterday I met with them. That meeting lasted less than ten.

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Speaker 1: Minutes because they didn't want it to go further, or

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Speaker 3: I think Miss Early said on the radio this morning

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Speaker 3: the meeting. Now eight or nine minutes, Katie, and.

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Speaker 1: So are you saying that they're not communicating?

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Speaker 3: Well, what I'm saying is I didn't get an opportunity

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Speaker 1: Erina, what do you say to those claims from the

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Speaker 2: So, Katie, I think you can provide a bit of

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be appropriate to ask some further questions, So

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing is it's pretty clear and what he

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Speaker 2: So we didn't need any more information from us. We've

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Speaker 1: So from your perspective, you don't feel as though the

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Katie is. We had a member meeting yesterday and

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Speaker 1: So erona talk us through exactly what those members said yesterday.

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Speaker 1: And what did they say you know about the changes?

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Speaker 2: Well, their concerns is that this is starting as a

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Speaker 1: So they're saying that those you know that these specialist

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Speaker 2: Well, no, we don't believe that, Katie. Officers don't believe

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Speaker 1: So where to from here because it seems as though

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Speaker 1: So where to from here?

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Speaker 2: And this is what they're upset about. They have worked tirelessly,

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Speaker 1: So erin are we expecting I mean, correctional officers going

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you just need to watch a space Katie.

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned before a potential vote of no confidence

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Speaker 2: At the moment he was unanicusly agreed by the members

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Speaker 2: Okay, thanks for look. I appreciate people are frustrated, but

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Speaker 2: I think people need to listen to correctional officers. We

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Speaker 2: And I'm not sure if Katie or your listeners know

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Speaker 2: but the government have refused this because they're saying it's

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Speaker 2: One hundred and sixty prisoners. That means all of Palmerston

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Speaker 2: We've been asking for it. The government did say Katie

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Speaker 2: Now they've backflipped on it. But our members are looking

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Speaker 1: So, Erina, you are saying that Stringy Bark, that area

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Speaker 2: That's where they're pretty frustrated, Katie, because they've been putting

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Speaker 1: Is it a situation where they're not doing it because

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Speaker 1: they don't have enough staff?

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Speaker 2: No, we've got the starting to fill it in Darwin.

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Speaker 2: Starting is not an issue in Darwin. We have been

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Speaker 2: told it's completely due to money.

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Speaker 1: So how much I mean, I know that you're obviously

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Speaker 1: not an expert in the finances. I'm assuming with the

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Speaker 1: costs associated with fixing that wire, but how much do

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Speaker 1: we have any idea how much it could cost to fix.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've been told roughly it would be under a

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Speaker 2: million dollars to get it all ready to roll in

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Speaker 2: six weeks time.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, we'll certainly ask some questions about that.

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Speaker 1: Erina Early, the secretary of the United Workers' Union. I

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Speaker 1: always appreciate your time. Thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us this morning.

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Speaker 2: Always my pleasure. Katie, have a lovely day

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Speaker 1: You too, Thank you, thanks so much.