1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, the ugly 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: truth behind Molly May and Tommy Fury's reunion and Indy 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: Clinton's PR stunt is exposed. But first, Olivia Rodgers's ex 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: husband Justin mckinn has welcomed a baby boy with his 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: Bachelor Contestant girlfriend Tany Leeson. I was really surprised when 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: I saw this announcement pop up on Instagram because he 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: was born nearly four weeks early. So Tani chose Mother's 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: Day to announce the arrival of Arlo Leson McKean, who 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: was born on the twenty eighth of April. Thoughts on 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: the name, so, I like the name. Amy has a 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: couple of kids in her friendship group with the name Arlo, 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: and I've always thought it was very cute. It's quite unique. 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: But then I don't think it's been overdone. 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: Oh see, I actually. 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: Think that there are so many Arlo's at the moment. 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean, as you said, there's a few names friendship 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: group alone. 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: I know a lot of dogs called Arlo. 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: And then Sarah's Day has recently had so I think 22 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: it's a name that is very popular, and I think 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of Arlo's in our 24 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: son's grades at school. I haven't seen it popping up 25 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: in the most popular boys' names list, though, so I 26 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: feel like maybe it was a name that was quite 27 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: popular a couple of years ago. I was surprised they 28 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: went with a hyphenated surname. I thought it might just 29 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: be McKean. I really wasn't surprised by it at all. 30 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: I think it reflects where they are in their relationship. 31 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: They split up before the public announcement of this baby 32 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: news and seem to get back together because of it. 33 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: They're not married, and I don't think that she perhaps 34 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: knows necessarily where she stands in this relationship going forward, 35 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: particularly with the fact that Justin maybe going to prison soon. Yeah. Well, 36 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: he is facing allegations of stealing almost half a million 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: dollars from his former employee erh He hasn't appeared at 38 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: the last two hearings, so we don't really know what's 39 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: going on with that. And I found it interesting because 40 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: there was actually no reference to Justin in Tarani's announcement posts. 41 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: So she uploaded twelve photos in a carousel, and Justin 42 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: featured in the background of two of them where he 43 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: was supporting Taranni throughout the labor. So he was definitely 44 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: at the labor, but there wasn't a photo of him 45 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: with his son and also with Taranni. I don't think 46 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: that that is necessarily reflective of whether they're together or not. 47 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: I think that Tani and Justin would realize that the 48 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: media would jump on this photo op and they would 49 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: splash a photo of the three of them all over 50 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: their news website. So I think by her posting alone, 51 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: it doesn't attract as much attention. But they already did 52 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: a photo shoot when they announced the pregnancy. Yeah, but 53 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: I think now that the writing is somewhat on the 54 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: wall over this court case and he's been a no 55 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: show that he doesn't want to attract even more attention 56 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: to it. I totally disagree the writing was on the 57 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: wall when they made the pregnancy announcement. He had shut 58 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: down his Instagram account. He actually returned to Instagram to 59 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: be a collaborator on this pregnancy announcement post. He's not 60 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: a collaborator on the birth announcement. Yeah, but at the 61 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: time it was also looking like he was going to 62 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: try and fight these claims against him, but subsequently he 63 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: hasn't appeared in court. 64 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: His legal team have dropped him. 65 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: But I don't think that's got anything to do with it. 66 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: I think that something potentially could be going on with 67 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: him and Tarny because he hasn't even commented on the post, 68 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: which is unusual because he's commented on her last three posts. 69 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: It's a bit strange. I mean, his Instagram bio says 70 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: Arlo's dad in it. I just think it's a bit 71 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: murky about what's going on between them, and I feel 72 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: really sorry for Tarani because she needs so much support 73 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: at the moment. She shared in the announcement post that 74 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: it wasn't the best entry into motherhood because Arlo was 75 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: experiencing breathing difficulty shortly after he was born, and the 76 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: poor thing had to spend ten days in the hospital. 77 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: Fortunately he's now home and it's been two weeks and 78 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: he's doing really well. Batani wrote, no one can prepare 79 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: you to go through the all consuming and emotional experience 80 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: of childbirth, only to watch this tiny little boy being 81 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: wheeled away from you mere hours later, then the hours 82 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: upon hours I spent in hospital just holding him in 83 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: my arms, never wanting to leave, and crying when I 84 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: had to. Hasn't this poor girl gone through enough? It 85 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: would be such a difficult time with everything going on 86 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: in the background with Justin, and then to have your 87 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: baby arrive four weeks early. I do wonder if since 88 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: the birth of this child things have turned even more 89 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: south with their relationship. I mean, the baby Arlo was 90 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: born on the twenty eighth of April. She made the 91 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: announcement on the eleventh of May. That's a couple of 92 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: weeks in between. Maybe since he was born, Justin has 93 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: been absent and that's why she hasn't wanted to. 94 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: Include him in the Instagram. Yeah. 95 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: Look, I don't want to speculate because it's obviously a 96 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: really difficult time for them. I mean, he was born 97 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: in a Perth hospital, which is where Justin. He's relocated 98 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: from Melbourne to Perth. Tiny's been there with him. But yeah, 99 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I hope things are okay with them. As 100 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: I said, Tiny really needs a support at this time. 101 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: I also think potentially Justin is just wanting to keep 102 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: an incredibly low profile with everything going on again, I 103 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: don't think they should have done the pregnancity photo shoot 104 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: because the news are reporting on this and they're just 105 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: using those photos. 106 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: Good knowing good first day. 107 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: A video of Indy clint and supposedly meeting a coworker 108 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: at her new corporate gig is going viral on TikTok. 109 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: It comes a month after an anonymous user uploaded a 110 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: video of Indy appearing to be in the middle of 111 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: a job interview. So this second TikTok has all but 112 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: confirmed that this is a publicity stunt. I mean, we 113 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: all smelled a rat when that first video went viral 114 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: a month ago, but this definitely removes any seed of doubt. 115 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: In this new video, the office worker just happened to 116 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: be randomly filming herself typing on the computer at work 117 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: when her unexpected new coworker aka Indie Clinton sat down 118 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: next to her, and similar to the last video, the 119 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: interaction was uploaded to TikTok by a supposed anonymous user 120 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: whose account had no other posts. 121 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: Now, this did make. 122 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: Sense for the initial video because the office worker in 123 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: that video was acting as though they didn't want to 124 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: be caught out by their boss for secretly filming Indy 125 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: in the middle of a job interview. But in this case, 126 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: the office worker clearly didn't care about her idea to 127 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: d being revealed because her face was front and center 128 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: in this whole clip. None of it makes sense because 129 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: if we actually believed this first video that came out, 130 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: then surely that office worker would have been hauled in 131 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: by the boss and said, how dare you share this video? 132 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: People are not to be talking about it, and there 133 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: would have been discussion in the office. Okay, Indy Clinton 134 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: has this job. No one is to film her for 135 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: this second video to come out. 136 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: It's just so obvious. Yeah. 137 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: Well, over the top of the video, the office worker wrote, 138 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: point of view, your new co worker is Indy Clinton. 139 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: Let's have it listened to the awkward exchange between Indy 140 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: and this coworker in the video. 141 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: Hi, oh you good? Are you you? Yeah? Hannah good? 142 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: Are you on this team? 143 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: Oh? 144 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: Wow? 145 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: Do I know you from? 146 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: I know you work there? 147 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: Oh my god? 148 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: You know how to get into your computer? 149 00:06:59,600 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 150 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: I got the pines go for lunch? 151 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: I think so? 152 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 153 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 2: Okay, do you want to come? 154 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 155 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, of course, anytime. No worries leving on if 156 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: you need anything. 157 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: I love that Indy has her priorities right. She was 158 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: asking about what is happening for lunch even before she. 159 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: Was logged onto her computer. 160 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just good office comraderie. I still remember 161 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: starting a job and they set me up with this 162 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: buddy who was meant to look after me, and rather 163 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: than taking me out to lunch, it was her birthday 164 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: and she went out to lunch with all the other 165 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: girls in the office and left. 166 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: Me by myself. That is just mean. 167 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: I feel like when anyone is new, you've got to 168 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: let them come along with you. You've got to introduce 169 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: them to everyone. Now, this video quickly attracted over one 170 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: point nine million views, eighty four thousand likes, and over 171 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: one thousand, six hundred sent on, so there was a 172 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: massive reaction to this video. However, I was surprised to 173 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: see that not everyone cottoned on to the fact that 174 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: this is a marketing stunt that we're all watching unfold 175 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: one years of road. Imagine Indy just trying to fit 176 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: in and see her co worker posted a video of 177 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: her on her first day loll and that comment got 178 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: over five thousand likes. Whilst another said I'm sure Indy 179 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: is thrilled to be filmed without her knowledge, while another 180 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: said does she know you did this? 181 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: Just wondering. 182 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you can see why marketing campaigns like this work. 183 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we're all saying, oh, it's so obvious that 184 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: it's a PR stunt, but we've got a background in 185 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: PR and marketing. When it comes to TikTok, there's not 186 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: a lot of background on things, so people just take 187 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: this sort of stuff of verbatim or There were a 188 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: lot of followers who were commenting their concern for some 189 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: people having no. 190 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: Critical thinking skills. 191 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: One user wrote, come on, guys, you've got to find 192 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: a way to decipher real verse stage videos. Now. Most 193 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: people did cotton on to the fact that this is 194 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: a publicity's done and thought that this was marketing genius. 195 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: One user wrote, the marketing girl is no, this is 196 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: a teaser, but we stand regardless. I mean, it's pretty 197 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: clear that the marketing team we're trying to drop more 198 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: clues in this video, because you could tell that the 199 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: office had something to do with skincare or cosmetics because 200 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: they were shelves bursting with products in the background. Did 201 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: predict last month. This has all the telltale signs of 202 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: a TBH skincare stunt, because in early twenty twenty four, 203 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: Indy was accused of being involved in a different PR 204 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: stunt with the brand, and that's when she accidentally leaked 205 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: one of their unreleased products in a daily vlog. So 206 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: that leak got a lot of media attention. It actually 207 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: created unprecedented exposure for the brand, and TBH had a 208 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: very sleek PR response on TikTok, which made people dubious. 209 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: One of their most popular videos showed the marketing manager 210 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: calling up tbh's founder Rachel Wilde and breaking the news 211 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: to her, and then the team claimed to have this 212 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: emergency meeting the next day and they brought the launch 213 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: forward and that ended up actually being tbh's most successful 214 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: product launched due to all of the exposure basically from 215 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: the media about this idiot influencer who leaked the new 216 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: brand to everyone. Yeah, they're very well known for their 217 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: gorilla marketing tactics. In terms of what's going on with 218 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: this publicity stunt, is clear Indy is releasing a line 219 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: or a product through TBH, and it seems like the 220 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: company have been so kind to throw us an Easter Eggs. 221 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: So when I first looked at the TikTok username, I 222 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: thought it was just some random numbers and letters, but no, 223 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: super Sluice have realized that it's a clue about the 224 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: product's release date. So the username is B twenty seven 225 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: five two zero two five H, So that gives us 226 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: the release date of the twenty seventh of May twenty 227 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: twenty five. This is what I call marketing juniors. There 228 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: is also a secondary clue in there. So the TikTok 229 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: username started with a B and ended with an H, which, 230 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: funnily enough, that's my husband's initials. He has nothing to 231 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: do with this, So Influencer Updates has cracked the code 232 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: for us On this one. She shared that she believes 233 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: the b H stands for Booth Hair, and she then 234 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: shared a follow up screenshot of boof Hair's new Instagram account, 235 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: which happens to only follow tbh's founder Rachel Wild. Oh wow, 236 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: and so far the account has only three posts. So 237 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: one of the posts is a video you showing a 238 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: clock ticking with the caption set your alarms with the 239 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: twenty seventh of May twenty twenty five. So again it 240 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: reiterates that launch date in the TikTok use a name. 241 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: The second post shows someone's hair being brushed, and the 242 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: third is a close up shot of red packaging with 243 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: the caption did your hair go Poof? We're here to 244 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: make it go Boof. Now. To me, it sounds like 245 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: this product is potentially for postpartum hair loss, which would 246 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: make Indy, who is a mum of three, the perfect 247 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: face for it. God, I mean, I hope it's a 248 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: good product because I am experiencing that at the moment 249 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: and it is a pain in the ass. Yeah. Well, 250 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't given birth yet and my hair 251 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: is in the best condition that it's been in for 252 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: a while. Enjoy that, and I know that it's just 253 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 1: going to snap off instantly when I give birth or 254 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: I stop breastfeeding. 255 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: The worst bit is. 256 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: I always just pull my hair back now, and then 257 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: I've got these little bits that just will not pull back. 258 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: They look ridiculous. 259 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: And I don't have time to blow dry my hair either, 260 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: so it's just very unruly. Well. On the Instagram account, 261 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: there is a link to Boof's new website and it 262 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: takes you to a landing page which says hi you've 263 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: reached booth. We're not available right now, but if you 264 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: leave your email and telephone number will be in touch. 265 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: And it then asked the public to subscribe to be 266 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: the first to find out about the new hair care line. 267 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: So I am guessing that Indy is the face of 268 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: this new line. I don't necessarily think she has a 269 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: financial stake in this business, but I think that this 270 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: whole marketing campaign has been genius, because when else would 271 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: we be talking about the fact that my tbh is 272 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: launching a new hair care line? Who really cares? Yeah, 273 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: hats off to them. Everyone is playing along at home. 274 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed it. It will be interesting to see if 275 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: that converts to sales like it did for the original 276 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: publicity Start with Indy Clinton, I. 277 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 3: Actually don't hate you in the slightest like I feel 278 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 3: like you actually hate me. 279 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: Molly May and Tommy Fury are officially back together. Molly 280 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: broke the worst kept secret in part two of her 281 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: prime doco Behind it All. While fans were thrilled about 282 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: the reconciliation, one member of the family couldn't hide their 283 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: true feelings. Molly's older sisters Ray is not happy about 284 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: the reunion no, and she didn't hold back sharing her 285 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: concerns directly with her sister and also the world. So 286 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: Zoe was upfront saying that she didn't believe Tommy had 287 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: resolved his issues with alcohol, and she said that she 288 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: hoped her sister would make the right decision and feared 289 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: their relationship would be damaged if she got back with 290 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: the boxer. Mollie May also conceded to the film crew 291 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: that navigating her relationship with Zoe was the trickiest it 292 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: had ever been. A lot of people have described Zoe 293 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: as the hero of this documentary for being the only 294 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: person to give it straight to Molly May. Oh, you 295 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: can tell that Molly May is just surrounded by yes people, 296 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: and Zoe is the only person that has the balls 297 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: to say, hey, I don't think this is a good idea. 298 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: Everyone is talking about the scene in the car with 299 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: the sisters, which I think is probably one of the 300 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: most relatable scenes of this whole documentary. Last time they 301 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: were in the car singing to the Saddle Club theme song. 302 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: This time they were having a heated argument about Molly's 303 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: relationship with Tommy off the back of that much publicized 304 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve kiss. Isn't that just sisterhood? One day 305 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: you're singing in the saddle clubs, next day you're having 306 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: a big argument. You know, Well, it doesn't even have 307 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: to be a different day. It can be within half 308 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: an hour of each other. Well, on the topic of 309 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: that New Year's kiss, I love seeing behind the scenes 310 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: of the crisis phone call with Fran. You could tell 311 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: that she was so embarrassed. She looked sheepish about the 312 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: whole thing. Oh she did, and it's like she didn't 313 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: want to admit to anyone. 314 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: She said, Oh, Tommy was. 315 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: Only there for ten minutes at the end, which kind 316 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: of made it sound even worse. Oh yeah, because there 317 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: was this whole rhetoricon line that they'd been seen flirting 318 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: all night. 319 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: She's like, that's not true. 320 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: He literally arrived like ten minutes before the countdown, which 321 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm like. 322 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: Baby, it kind of makes it look worse. 323 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, he and it took him ten minutes to persuade 324 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: you to have this New Year's Eve kiss in front 325 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: of all of these people. Also, how Molly trusted everyone 326 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: that was there at the party, but then it still 327 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: ended up in the press. I felt really sorry for her. 328 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: How good was it when Fran told her to go 329 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: pour herself a stiff drink and she got out of 330 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: fruit box. This is what makes her so relatable. At 331 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you could tell Zoe wasn't 332 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: too happy about it because she gave up her New 333 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: Year's Eve to babysit Bamby so Molly could go to 334 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: this party and she ended up kissing Tommy, who she's 335 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: not happy with. Yeah, and she threw it in her 336 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: face in the car like all good sisters do. And 337 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: she asked Molly if she regretted it or felt embarrassed, 338 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, that is not 339 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: going to anyway. Yeah. Well, I feel sorry for Zoe because, 340 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: as she said, she's just sick of having to be 341 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: the one to pick up the pieces. Let's throw to 342 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: more of that exchange. 343 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: We just maybe don't speak about. 344 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: No, I don't feel comfortable not talking about because sisters 345 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: need to be able to tell each other everything, all right, 346 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: So then I need to be able to tell you 347 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: the good, bad and the ugly. Your relationship and how 348 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: you feel and how you are with Tommy is my 349 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: only concern. 350 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: But what a lovely life you have. 351 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: Nothing I do or say she was going to change 352 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: what you do or your opinion or how you feel 353 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: towards him. Correct, and you know what's sorry, that's the 354 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 3: wisest thing I think you've upset. I know, at some 355 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: point p in the next year, however long it is, 356 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: there will be a time where, unfortunately, and I hate 357 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 3: to say, you probably will be upset again. 358 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: I've seen a bit of a mixed response around Molly 359 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: saying to Zoe, well, what a lovely life you have 360 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: if that's your only worry, and people are saying, oh, 361 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: it's actually very commendable of Zoe to be concerned about 362 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: Molly and her relationship. But as someone who has sisters, 363 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: I read that line differently because I think that Molly 364 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: feels very judged by Zoe, and she is saying to her, well, 365 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: you're coming from this position of having this very healthy, 366 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: happy relationship. I mean, Zoe recently got married and her 367 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: life probably to Molly seems very easy and picture perfect, 368 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: very stable. Yeah, very stable, and Molly saying well, I'm 369 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: so sorry that you've got everything put together and I don't. Yeah. 370 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: I feel bad for Zoe because she's been copying some 371 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: backlash on TikTok. People have complaining that she needs to 372 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: back off and let Molly live her own life. It's clear, 373 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: as you said so, that those people don't have sisters, 374 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: because someone who understands that sister dynamic. Zoe just wants 375 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: what's best for Molly and it's not Tommy. I mean, 376 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: I'm sad to say that because I've always loved Tommy 377 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: and Molly together, but it's quite clear that he's really 378 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: hurt her. I think she's just taking him back way 379 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: too quickly. I can see it from Molly's perspective, though, 380 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: because I've been in that scenario where you really want 381 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: to take someone back and you're in the position because 382 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: I almost feel like Molly's in the position where she's 383 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: been somewhat begging Tommy even though it really should be 384 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: the other way around, and you feel embarrassed because you 385 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: know that everyone's judging you for it, but that's what 386 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: your heart wants, even though it doesn't seem right. 387 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 388 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: I mean again, I've been in a toxic relationship in 389 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: my early twenties and I dated someone who treated me terribly, 390 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: and you guys were very much in Zoe's position where 391 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: you hated him and you're well within your rights too, 392 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: But when you actually care about the person, you end 393 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: up forgiving them. Well, that's the worst thing as a sister, 394 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: when you can just see that someone is bad news. Yeah, 395 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: but the thing is you forgive them, but your sisters don't. 396 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: So that's the position that Zoe's in. She's heard all 397 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: of this terrible stuff that Tommy has done because Molly said, 398 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: I've told her everything and she can't forgive them and 399 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: she doesn't have to. 400 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. For Zoe, she doesn't have the emotional. 401 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: Buying of being part of that relationship, so she can 402 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: see it for what it is. But being in Molly's shoes, 403 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: Zoe's behavior is then pushing her away and into the 404 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: arms of Tommy. And I feel like Tommy is almost 405 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: using that to his advantage and Zoe's a bit of escapegoat. 406 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: At the moment. 407 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: It's like, Oh, Zoe's the one that's keeping us apart, 408 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: and she's the baddie when she's not. Yeah, it definitely 409 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: feels that way, And it was quite interesting because Zoe 410 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: said to Molly, when things are good between you and Tommy, 411 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: I don't hear from you at all, But when things 412 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: are bad, you need me around, And there was a 413 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: lot of frustration there, and I think that a lot 414 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: of people have experienced that with friends or siblings before, 415 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: when you sort of get put on the back burner 416 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: when everything's going fine and dandy for all them, and 417 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: then suddenly they want you around when things have gone 418 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: to shit. And you can see why Zoe is so 419 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: invested because she's the one when Bambi was first born, 420 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: when Tommy fucked off to a boxing camp, that was 421 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: there with Molly looking after this newborn baby for weeks. 422 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: That was all very fascinating because on the documentary they 423 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: shared a couple of clips of Molly when she was 424 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: first postpartum and sharing about how much she struggled with 425 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: motherhood in those early days. And I forgot the fact 426 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: that Tommy literally left the first week of Bambi's life 427 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: to go on this camp and Zoe actually moved into 428 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: the house and was there full time with Molly. Yeah, 429 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: it seems like she's really taken on the father figure, 430 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: which we saw when they were organizing Bambie's birthday party. 431 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 2: So I loved it. 432 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: They had the theme of the Tiger who Comes to Tea. 433 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: It's actually one of Jack's Favorite Books. I was really 434 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: excited to see all the decorations. Anyway, in the book, 435 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: there's obviously a tiger who comes to tea, and Zoey's like, oh, 436 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: is Tommy going to dress up as the tiger? Or 437 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: should I buy the outfit? And then Molly was really 438 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: awkward because you could tell she really wanted Tommy to come. 439 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: Oh, she was desperate for him to be there. 440 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: Betty was using it as an excuse like, Oh, I 441 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: haven't caught up with your family and Zoe doesn't like me. 442 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: So then Zoe ended up dressing up as the tiger, 443 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: and it's so heartbreaking because you can see that Bambi 444 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: thinks it's Tommy. And then when she puts her head 445 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: up and Zoe is revealed, Bamby's like daddy Like, she 446 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: looks so disappointed. That was heartbreaking to watch because there 447 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: was a scene when during the birthday party, Molly lost 448 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: it and she had to move herself from the party 449 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: and go upstairs and cry. And I just felt like 450 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: it was a bit of a cop out from Tommy. 451 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: It is so clear that there is more than just 452 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: olcohol a place oh for this breakup, I mean reading 453 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: between the lines. It sounds like a lot of the 454 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: rumors about his behavior at nightclubs is true. Maybe there 455 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: was some cheating involved, because why else would you not 456 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: want to front up to see someone's family. He has 457 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: clearly fucked up big time. I've also seen some speculation 458 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: that people think that he may have ruined Zoe's wedding. 459 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: Maybe he acted really terribly at that. Well, because he 460 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: got very drunk at that, didn't he Yeah. There was 461 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: also a very tense scene in the kitchen when Molly 462 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: was baking a cake for Bamby's birthday, So Zoe and 463 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: their mum and grandma were all there, and she dropped 464 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: this comment. It was pretty rogue about how, oh, she'll 465 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: have to have a second baby because Bambi loves kids 466 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: so much, and you could just tell Zoe was like 467 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: what the fuck? Like it went down like an absolute 468 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 1: lead balloon and she was like, hang on, but remember 469 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: you said, this was like, this isn't how it was 470 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: going to be. Well, there's an interesting element to that though, 471 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: because Tommy is part of a traveler family and it 472 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: really seemed like he was the one pushing to have 473 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: children very young, whereas Mollie said. 474 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: She would have been happy to have them when she 475 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 2: was in her thirties. 476 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we forget that Molly and Tommy 477 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: are only twenty five and twenty six, which also probably 478 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: explained some of the immature behavior that's going on. Yeah, 479 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: but it seems like, you know, when you feel like 480 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: your friend or sibling has been infiltrated by their ex 481 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: and they're clearly doing things to impress them. It's almost 482 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: like Molly is bargaining with him, being like, if we 483 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: get back together, let's have more children. 484 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: That will solve the problem. 485 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it's bizarre that it seems like that she's 486 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: the one bargaining with him, because the whole reason she 487 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: left Tommy was because she needed to be like, nah, 488 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm putting my foot down. 489 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 2: Your behavior is not acceptable. 490 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: But as you said, there does appear to be this 491 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: back and forth where she never really stood up for herself. 492 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: She's been having little sleepovers because in part one of 493 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: the docco it was kind of like, oh, we're not 494 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: sure if we're going to get back together. You know, 495 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: she we It was clear she desperately him back. Yeah. 496 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: I felt like she had a bit more hand in 497 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: part one, but by part two, she's there ringing him 498 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: on her shoe in Switzerland and she says, I love you, 499 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: and then he hangs up and she has to ring 500 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: him back to get confirmation that he also loves her too. 501 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: That's the thing I feel like there was a bit 502 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: skipped over within that. I think the documentary makers knew 503 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: that the hardcore Molly May fans would be across what 504 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: she was sharing on her YouTube, because she has been 505 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: teasing that they've been having sleepovers and obviously their holiday 506 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: that they've recently gone on. But if you were going 507 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: in blind, you'd be like, hold on a second, I've 508 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: missed something. Why they're suddenly back together. And there was 509 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: a scene when she was speaking to a psychologist about 510 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: how she's been coping with the breakup, and she said 511 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: to the psychologist, Oh, sorry, he keeps calling me, but 512 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: I am going to leave him waiting because he takes 513 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: days to get back to me. And I thought that 514 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: was very insightful because, as you say, he's the one 515 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: that's fucked up, he should be chasing her, not the 516 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: other way around. Yeah, it just seems like they never 517 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: really cut tires properly, But it was all kind of 518 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: for show to the media. I don't think it's a 519 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: PR stunt at all, because I think that this is 520 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: just bad PR for them because originally they work a 521 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: couple goals on Instagram, and I've always wanted to see 522 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: them get back together because I love them on Love 523 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: Island and they seemed so perfect for each other. But 524 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: this doco has really broken that illusion. And I think 525 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: the Molly may Fan in me, I just want Molly 526 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: to be happy, and yeah, it seems like maybe she'll 527 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: be happy at the moment that they're back together and 528 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: having a family together, and I do truly hope it 529 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: works out for them, But I think the cynic in 530 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: me and someone who's had you know, I mean a 531 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: thirty six now had a bit more life experience, knows 532 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: I think it's going to play out the way Zoe 533 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: is saying it's not gonna end. Well, yeah, it seems 534 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: like a bit of a band aid over the situation. 535 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: And in the final episode she told the camera that 536 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: she knows it's going to be rocky and there's going 537 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: to be ups and down, so she's almost predicting all 538 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: of that. Going back to your point about people thinking 539 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: that this is a publicity stunt, I totally agree. I 540 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: don't think that this is a publicity stunt at all. 541 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: I think she was using the me and people's reactions 542 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: to punish Tommy. That was her way of saying, I'm 543 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: not standing for this behavior anymore. Not so much punishing, 544 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: but to say, like this is serious, away from the 545 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: relationship drama. I found it fascinating hearing Molly talk about 546 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: her self confidence. So she was backstage at this Laureal 547 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: fashion parade in Paris and they were basically begging her 548 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: to appear on the runway, and she was like, no, no, no, 549 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: it's not for me. 550 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: I just loved it. 551 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: How She's like, I've actually had a baby recently. And 552 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: then she's like, actually that's not true. Bamby's too, And 553 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: she said she's going to be using that excuse until 554 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: Bamby's sixteen for not being in shape. It's sad because 555 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: you can tell that she's not confident in herself at 556 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: the moment. I feel like they kept using all of 557 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: these shots of Kendall Jenner on the runway to drive 558 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 1: home the pressures of body image in the industry and 559 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: how because I mean, you look at Molly, she's an 560 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: absolutely stunning girl. But then when you look at the 561 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: types of bodies we are seeing on the cat walk, 562 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: you can size zero. 563 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 2: It's definitely back. 564 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: I mean the ironic thing is the whole fashion show 565 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: supposed to be about promoting different body types, and she 566 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: said it's sad because she just doesn't feel confident or 567 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: comfortable doing that. Yeah, it was so shocking. Also when 568 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: they showed the photos of what Molly May used to 569 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: look like right after being on Love Island with all 570 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: the filler, she looked like a cartoon character. I couldn't 571 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: get over. I don't actually remember her looking like that. Yeah, 572 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 1: there were some scenes from her vogs and I mean 573 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: I've been watching her vlogs ever since she left Love Island, 574 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: and I was like, did she really look like that? Like, 575 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: it was weird to see her with Tommy because she's 576 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: had this amazing transformation and she was really one of 577 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: the first influencers to actually have her feeler removed. I 578 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: think she really sparked a trend. I mean, we saw 579 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: a lot of influencers in Australia jumping on board, like 580 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: Shaney Grimmon. I think Sky Wheatley also got hers. I 581 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: mean she had Feller back in but they were really 582 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: dulling it down a bit. I think also the makeup 583 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: was quite shocking for me, because Molly May now has 584 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: this very stripped back, clean girl look. I mean, I 585 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: suppose it's also just the change in what is popular 586 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: makeup wise, but it looked like she'd been shot in 587 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: the face of those. 588 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 2: Love Island days. 589 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: Again, she was only twenty one, and that was really 590 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: the look of twenty sixteen twenty seventeen. Every woman that 591 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: was on YouTube felt like they had to be some 592 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: sort of makeup artist and do the cut creases and 593 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: the over the top eye shadow. I think one of 594 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: the turning points for Molly was when she started to 595 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: get trolled and be compared to Quagmire. Well, she didn't 596 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: actually know who Quagmyle was, and it was the producers 597 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: they said, oh, have a Google and look at what 598 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: he looks like. 599 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: That was a great moment in the documentary. She's saying, oh, yeah, 600 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: I can see that. 601 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: She actually said that she could really see the Xbox 602 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: controller and was at that point I'm like, Wow, she's 603 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: really removed from this whole situation. I wonder if it's 604 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: because it's almost like looking at a different person, because 605 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: I didn't recognize her. I think it's because that image 606 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: of herself seemed like it was from so long ago, 607 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: when she doesn't associate with that person anymore. It would 608 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: be different if she couldn't reverse a lot of those procedures. 609 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: It's lucky that they were just filler and botox, which 610 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: you can remove. Well. She actually ended up thanking Zoe 611 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: and saying she was the one that told her the 612 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: truth about Hey, you know this doesn't act. 613 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: She looked great, looked a lot better before now. 614 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: The same day the doco dropped, Tommy ended up winning 615 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: his fight in his boxing return after an eighteen month 616 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: hiatus due to an injury, and he ended up dedicating 617 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: the win to Molly May. 618 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: This is what he said. 619 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you for his victories 620 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: of a lotav Jesus Christ, but none of this would 621 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: be possible. 622 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 3: I want to say, I though to beat for me 623 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 3: to go about me home, my sweet Molly. She'd always 624 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 3: be my forever. 625 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: This brings me back to the era when Tommy had 626 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: Molly and his soft toy elephant Ellie Belly as an 627 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: emblem on his boxing uniform, and I was like, oh 628 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: my god, this guy is totally whipped, but clearly not. Yeah, 629 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: this is why I'm so torn about them getting back together, 630 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: because there was that really sweet side where they seemed 631 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: to really get each other's sense of humor. He was 632 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: really around the soft toy characters that she had. 633 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: Also, he was loud and proud that he was with her. 634 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: What was going to be really interesting to see how 635 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: it all plays out because Tommy's got his own BBC 636 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: documentary coming out called Tommy The Good, The Bad, the Fury, 637 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: and apparently we get to go behind the scenes as 638 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: he gets his career back on track and also his life, 639 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: and they have teased it's going to explore his love 640 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: life with Molly May. That is one thing that surprised 641 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: me about Part two. I thought that Tommy might have 642 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: popped up in maybe the last episode of this series 643 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: and we might have seen them together. Clearly he was 644 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: saving it for this documentary. I question how much reality 645 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: we're going to get from Tommy's documentary because we heard 646 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: Zoe coming back at Molly basically saying, you know, I 647 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: was there for the nights when you couldn't sleep, and 648 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: you're phoning me up, inferring that those were times when 649 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: Tommy was out and about and she didn't know who 650 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: he was with. We're not going to be seeing that, 651 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: ah we. 652 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: Well, no, because it is a post breakup doc ho. 653 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: I think we're going to hear a lot about his 654 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: problems with alcohol, but I don't think we're going to 655 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: hear about how. 656 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: They caused other issues. 657 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: They're going to try and give him a redemption arc 658 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: where we see him really work through his mental health 659 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: and become this guy that Molly has always dreamt. 660 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: That he'll be. But I don't know if everyone will 661 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: buy it. 662 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: No. Well, that doco is coming out later this year, 663 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: and I think we'll need another girl's night to dissect 664 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: it all and enjoy it. 665 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, we had. 666 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: I had everyone over to my house on Friday night 667 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: as soon as the Molly Made documentary dropped. There was 668 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: so much fun. I just wish there were more episodes. 669 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: I know everyone is saying, oh, this isn't really a documentary. 670 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: It's a reality show. And as a reality show fan, 671 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: I loved every second. But I don't care if it 672 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: was fickle or if there wasn't much to it. One 673 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: thing we haven't spoken about. I know you do want 674 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: to go Kate, but is the horse riding scene. Oh, 675 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: I was really shaken by that. I was like, God, 676 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: that could have ended really. 677 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: Badly for some reason. I don't know if you've felt 678 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: this too. 679 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: Molly seemed to have Princess Diana ARBs throut this documentary 680 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: one because the paparazzi kept. 681 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: Following her everywhere. They followed her. 682 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: To her horse riding lessons, and I have to say 683 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: that I felt like they were to blame for the 684 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: reaction of the horse. Oh, definitely, because they were snapping 685 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: photos of her on this horse and this was like 686 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: a thoroughbread It didn't look like just some pony that 687 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: you'd practice on. This horse went nuts and she fell 688 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: off and looked like she whacked into Yeah. 689 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: She's thrown off really. Yeah, I was shocked. 690 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: She was okay after that incident, and she got. 691 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: Back up on the horse as well. 692 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, as the saying goes, but yeah, the paparazzi really 693 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: seemed to be to blame for that, and they seem 694 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: to be absolutely hounding her in a similar way that 695 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: they hounded Princess Diana. 696 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: I also think I got Princess Diana. 697 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: Vibes because of the photo shoot she did in Switzerland 698 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: when she was on the ski slopes, and that's again 699 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: where Princess Diana was hounded. Also, I think because at 700 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: the time of Molly and Tommy's breakup back in August, 701 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: the media compared their breakup to Princess Diana and Prince Charles, 702 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: which some are questioning saying that that's just ridiculous. Sophia, 703 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to wrap you up because I feel like 704 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: you could talk about this doc o for the rest 705 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: of the day. Thank you for tuning into another episode 706 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: of Outspoken. 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