1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Well, it's hope that more first home buyers in the 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Northern Territory are going to be able to get into 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: their first home. With the government passing a bill overnight 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: extending the Homegrown Territory Grant, the fifty thousand dollars grant 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: aimed at helping Territorians to build or buy a new home, 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: will now be available until September thirty next year. Almost 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: three hundred builds, as I understand it, are currently supported 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: under the scheme, with the Government estimating over one hundred 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: and thirty million dollars in economic activity as a result. 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: Now joining us on the line is Saliane in US 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Master Builders CEO. Good morning, Sally Am. 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, lovely. 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: To have you on the show now, Sallyan. The Homegrown 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: Territory Grant extended overnight, that's that bill passing. How successful 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: has it been from a master builder's perspective. 16 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's great and it's really helped the 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: residential market here in the Northern Territory. So and you know, 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: with those government settings or the right government things, Katie, 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: it builds an even stronger housing market here for us 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: in the delivery through Master Build or through our members. 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: What kind of uptake have we seen? I know the 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: Government have given us some figures, but what kind of 23 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: uptake have we seen? 24 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going on the government figures as well, Katie, 25 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: and there's been you know, just or nearly three hundred 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: in new builds, which is what we're really concerned about. 27 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: So and we you know, we hope to see a 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: whole lot more of that, particularly when we've got the 29 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: housing Accord on the horizon as well. But certainly we're 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: pretty pleased with about three hundred, and we're supporting our 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: members to deliver even more. 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: Now, Sallyanne, I know that building times for new homes 33 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory have dropped as well. Those latest 34 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: figures from the ABS showing the average construction times fallen 35 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: to eight point eight five months. Talk us through it, well, 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you attribute that to? 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: Well, Katie, that's a two point three percent decrease on 38 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: this last year. But what I think that is it 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: just speaks to the capability, capacity and the resilience of 40 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 2: our Northern Territory construction industry. Like there's you know, we've 41 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: got some of the best builders in Australia working here 42 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: and there and again I go back to the settings 43 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: of the government in place allowing first home builders or 44 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 2: home buyers rather to build a house. So our bilers 45 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: are doing a great job to get that done. 46 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: I know we're not quite back to the pre COVID 47 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: levels of sort of the seven months build times, but 48 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: no doubt there's been a big improvement. I mean, what, 49 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: how are we doing things so much faster pre COVID. 50 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: Though, well it's well it's still slightly up on pre 51 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: COVIDE those particular times. But look, I think it speaks 52 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: again to the resilience of our builders up here. You know, 53 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: we've got cost pressures, acquired distributions and things like our 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: disruptions rather and things like that. So to be doing 55 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: it is absolutely amazing and it speaks to what is 56 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: aailable here in the Northern Territory in our construction industry. 57 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: From your perspective, you know, how healthy is the industry 58 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: at the moment? 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: Well, look, this certainly helps you know the residential sector 60 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: and by no means saying that job is done. Everybody 61 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: is ecstatic, it's not. These are really good signs and 62 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: really good indications of where we could be going, and 63 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: certainly with the continuation of the first home biased grants 64 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: from the NT government. You know, it'll maintain that consistency, 65 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: but we do need to make sure that we are 66 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: supporting our workforce and increasing our workforce as well. So 67 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: that's probably one of a challenge at the moment that 68 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: we've got around our skills shortages. We do need to 69 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: maintain what we've got and increase those. Together with other industries, 70 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: we will be you know, making a big, big play 71 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: for skills. Workshops are skill program going into the future, 72 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: just so we can increase our apprentices and our wider 73 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: workforce as well. 74 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: Katie, Yeah, I mean it's it's always a tough one, 75 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: isn't it, that skill shortage, because just sort of think, okay, well, 76 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: it's wonderful to be able to attract people here to 77 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory, but it is a fantastic thing as 78 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: well to grow our own and hopefully have people stay here. 79 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: Oh one hundred percent, one hundred percent. You know, I 80 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: think if you have a look at the job figures 81 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: we had in September, you know, unemployment fell in the 82 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: Northern Territory, one of the only jurisdictions in Australia where 83 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 2: it did so we're down by you know, down to 84 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: four point two percent, which is well than the Australian average, 85 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: and you know that was down by point three over percent. 86 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 2: So we've got the jobs. We just need to attract people. 87 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: We need people to come to the Northern Territory. We 88 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 2: need people up here working because when we've got people, 89 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: it's an immediate boost to our economy and that's what 90 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: we want. We want a stronger economy because when our 91 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: a strong you know, the economy is strong, the territory strong. 92 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Sallyen, what do you make of the federal government's 93 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: five percent deposit scheme? I know that we're seeing obviously, 94 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: we've spoken quite a bit about it over recent weeks. 95 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: We had a number of experts in the property field, 96 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: real estate agents, brokers, Northern Territory government even calling for 97 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: that cap of six hundred thousand dollars to be lifted 98 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: after rapid home price growth in Darwin. I mean, what's 99 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: your take on hon it? Oh? 100 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: Look, you know, in one way, it gets people into 101 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: home sooner. People haven't, you know, through whatever reason, haven't 102 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: been able to save enough money, you know, five percent 103 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: without having to pay that lender's mortgage insurance certainly helps. 104 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: There is a school of thought that pushes up prices. 105 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: I think anything that gets our territory builders building faster 106 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: and more homes is a good thing. 107 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, spot on, and I know that's what we 108 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 1: all want. We all want these thanks to be ticking 109 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: along and things moving and the economy performing strongly. I 110 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: think is a good thing for everybody. 111 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred. I think you know, when we're backing 112 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: our local builders through apprenticeship pathways, our procurement reforms, land releases, 113 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: things like that, we can list our housing supply, you know, Katie, 114 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: so that that supports more jobs and it strengthens our economy. 115 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Master Builders NT CEO Sally and Innes. Great to 116 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: speak with you this morning. Thanks so much for your time. 117 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, thank you,