Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload, the podcast last week that night.
Speaker 2: Hi everyone, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to
Speaker 2: thank you for clicking and downloading on today's episode, where
Speaker 2: I am joined by Alana MacLean, the ultimate gossip queen,
Speaker 2: our very own Real Housewife of Western Australia, and the
Speaker 2: friend who delivers measured opinions even after unmeasured amounts of alcohol,
Speaker 2: always drink responsibly. This week we're diving into episode seventeen
Speaker 2: of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills season fourteen, the
Speaker 2: season finale, and let's be real, the title Caribbean Sendoff
Speaker 2: couldn't be more fitting. It does seem to be a
Speaker 2: bit of a nod to gar Cell, who makes her
Speaker 2: final appearance. That shocking little tidbit about Garcell's exit has
Speaker 2: honestly shocked me, and I'm going to be honest, I
Speaker 2: also feel it has disappointed me greatly. And yes, Alana
Speaker 2: and I have poured ourselves a glass of wine or
Speaker 2: two to get through all of the drama. And here
Speaker 2: is what is on today's agenda. The importance of not mocking, mimicking,
Speaker 2: or impersonating your friends Alana's take on Garcel's exit. What
Speaker 2: this finale tells us about next season, who is still
Speaker 2: standing and which friendships are on shaky ground. Everyone is
Speaker 2: clamoring for a diamond. There's actually a lot of resolutions
Speaker 2: that happen to tie up this season, so Alana and
Speaker 2: I will talk about that. Kathy Hilton also peas in
Speaker 2: the sand, so we will talk about maybe that's Lisa
Speaker 2: Renna's time to come back and offer her some adult diapers.
Speaker 2: We are going to try our best to prepare ourselves
Speaker 2: for the reunion and guys, that is Elana and I
Speaker 2: super Bowl, so we're pretty excited for that. You won't
Speaker 2: want to miss this breakdown from us of the Real
Speaker 2: Housewives season fourteen. So sit back and relax and let's
Speaker 2: get into the drama.
Speaker 1: Is that wine in a camp?
Speaker 2: It is wine in a camp?
Speaker 1: Okay? Have you had that before? Are we going in
Speaker 1: with a new beverage?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I thought we should open this up with me announcing
Speaker 2: the sponsorship to our podcast.
Speaker 1: Does someone want to sponsor us?
Speaker 2: Probably not.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: This is Pinot Grisio white peach spritzer from the Marlboro
Speaker 2: region of New Zealand that all sounds lovely, but when
Speaker 2: it's in a can, and yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: Like a can of wine to me, just signals you're
Speaker 1: on the go, you know what I mean? And I
Speaker 1: don't think you should be drinking wine on the go.
Speaker 2: It's aggressive. There's an aggressive bull on the front cover
Speaker 2: wearing a trench coat that I'm a Schwarznigga would wear.
Speaker 2: A terminator movie, like, who's this being marketed to?
Speaker 1: I've got a Sharnay that is from the California region,
Speaker 1: funny enough, and it said buttery Shardenay. But I feel
Speaker 1: like when you have to actually write it on the
Speaker 1: title buttery Sharney, it must be for the clubs that
Speaker 1: can't read all the fancy notes. So this just says
Speaker 1: buttery Shardenay and you go, Okay, no worries, it'll do
Speaker 1: the trick for now.
Speaker 2: We bought one for years that they don't make anymore.
Speaker 2: That was a buttery banana flavor. And so what in
Speaker 2: a wine in a wine banana? No Shardenay, but with
Speaker 2: a banana banana banana?
Speaker 1: Ne that's horrendous. Although I do have dreams of like
Speaker 1: actually making my own chartney and we can call it
Speaker 1: a lana.
Speaker 2: N I'm here, I'll buy it. How much money by
Speaker 2: the case to get it started?
Speaker 1: Not available in a can?
Speaker 2: What a finale?
Speaker 1: Have you realled? Wow, I've watched it twice. Well, I
Speaker 1: usually try and watch them twice because the first time
Speaker 1: I'm usually so excited, and then the second time I
Speaker 1: want to just go back and like take it in.
Speaker 1: Do you do that or do you just watch it once?
Speaker 2: No, I'll watch it twice because I watch it as
Speaker 2: a viewer, and then I watch it with the notes
Speaker 2: that I take down for us to be able to
Speaker 2: discuss it with. So they're very different ways of watching
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: Yes. With the lens, Yeah, they're very.
Speaker 2: Different lenses because like, what are we going to talk about?
Speaker 2: What needs to be unpacked?
Speaker 1: This had a you know it was. I think it
Speaker 1: was a good finale. Wouldn't say the strength of it
Speaker 1: was as strong as the week before. The week before.
Speaker 1: To remind everyone, I actually dish out a five. This
Speaker 1: wasn't quite at a five level. I wouldn't have thought,
Speaker 1: but I think it was. It was a good finale.
Speaker 1: It wasn't an explosive cliffhanger, Holy shit, what's going to
Speaker 1: happen next year? Kind of a Cliffhanger, and I thought
Speaker 1: it was interesting how they started wrapping up with you know,
Speaker 1: the quotes and everything at the dance party, and then
Speaker 1: they just had that scene that went on for another
Speaker 1: six minutes with Erica and Kyle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't forget though, the dead possum. We got sudden
Speaker 2: screaming dead possum. Why did we have that?
Speaker 4: No, Arvy, no, no, no, no, no, Arvy.
Speaker 1: Arvy Arvy.
Speaker 2: We literally came back from what would normally be the
Speaker 2: Clanger Here's the reunion teas, and then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden we flashed to sudden screaming at a possum and
Speaker 2: screaming at her assistant. I was like, what is going on?
Speaker 1: That assistant just reminds me so much of Jonah Hill.
Speaker 1: It's character in the Wolf of Wolf Street where he's like,
Speaker 1: I quit my job, I work for you, and then
Speaker 1: he'd like, you know, they've got like the little dwarfs
Speaker 1: in there, or the little people, and you know in
Speaker 1: that scene, which would be so canceled if that was today,
Speaker 1: but obviously they were recounting the eighties and then you
Speaker 1: know he's like throwing them and like, Rvey reminds me
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 2: What about Derey getting this season's best on ground from
Speaker 2: the fans. Because I've been scouring the internet looking for
Speaker 2: fan reactions of this season, it seems pretty unanimous that
Speaker 2: people are very team to read, which is an unusual
Speaker 2: turn of events considering that last year people wanted her gone.
Speaker 1: What we got from her was real. It was gritty,
Speaker 1: it was raw, it was a little bit ugly, it
Speaker 1: was abrasive. We got back to a dereet which we
Speaker 1: sort of saw glimpses of when she first started the show,
Speaker 1: that Lisa Rinner, I can smell your breath, you're too close,
Speaker 1: that kind of vibe, and then you know, she sort
Speaker 1: of toned it all down, and this is what social
Speaker 1: media does and getting involved in the comment section and
Speaker 1: you sort of stuck heading to the audience a little
Speaker 1: bit more and taking on their feedback and all of that.
Speaker 1: But this season, I really do feel like she came
Speaker 1: in and she was like, I've got nothing left to lose,
Speaker 1: and I don't have my marriage to lose. The image
Speaker 1: of that is down, and I'm not having a good
Speaker 1: time and i need a paycheck, so I'm just putting
Speaker 1: it all out there and the audience ate it up.
Speaker 2: Kyle Richards in the water, demanding the dree jump in
Speaker 2: and that she's not going to give her a burker
Speaker 2: bag or whatever it's called a burkean.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even going to buy you a burkin,
Speaker 1: do we. I'll get you at Burken if you jump
Speaker 1: a Burken.
Speaker 2: Also, I thought it was interesting that there's fans out
Speaker 2: there the clock screen time. There was this fan that
Speaker 2: I found on x formerly known as Twitter, Garcelen Sutton's
Speaker 2: Happy Place, and they announced that Sutton had the most
Speaker 2: amount of screen time by Father's season, which I believe.
Speaker 2: I think that that's pretty accurate. I did read in
Speaker 2: the comments section that Sutton probably gets the most amount
Speaker 2: of screen time because she's probablyrobably the most available. They
Speaker 2: only have access to Kyle Richards for a certain shoot,
Speaker 2: certain amount of time, So maybe we get so much
Speaker 2: sudden because of the fact that she's got nothing better
Speaker 2: to do than to turn up and act a damn
Speaker 2: before for us.
Speaker 1: Well, look, Suton wants to be on that show. She
Speaker 1: really went out of her way to try and get
Speaker 1: on that show. And look, I don't like Sutton personally
Speaker 1: as in a friendship that I would want to have
Speaker 1: because I just don't do well with those personality types
Speaker 1: that are unpredictable. However, she does make for interesting TV.
Speaker 1: She is that kind of reality star that you're like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: I can't believe she'd say that, do that whatever. So
Speaker 1: I kind of believe that. I kind of believe that
Speaker 1: she would make herself available for everything. And we've always
Speaker 1: heard this is Kyle's show. It would not surprise me
Speaker 1: that over the years if Kyle has dictated her schedule
Speaker 1: a little bit more. That makes sense.
Speaker 2: Why the finale wasn't amazing was because it was not
Speaker 2: a Kyle Richards episode, you know what I.
Speaker 1: Mean, what to make for Kyle. We're all getting in
Speaker 1: the middle of the gas Cell and Sutton, you know,
Speaker 1: because obviously last week we spoke a lot about with
Speaker 1: Sudden waranting Kyle's validation, waranting Kyle's friendship so much, and
Speaker 1: we were like, ah, this might be the missing piece
Speaker 1: while she's gone after delete so much, she wants the
Speaker 1: wedge to be there so that Kyle has more time
Speaker 1: and love to give to her. But then also we
Speaker 1: saw the start of that crack between Gusell and Sutton
Speaker 1: because again Sutton was only worried about if Kyle jumped
Speaker 1: in to defend her on the boat when Naka brought
Speaker 1: to Kyle's attention and they were like, well that she's
Speaker 1: waiting for you to jump in, and she's like, well,
Speaker 1: how's that my problem? Like you guys didn't say anything.
Speaker 1: You're better friends with her. It feels like everyone wants
Speaker 1: to blame me for everything. Neither one of them opened
Speaker 1: their mouths the entire time, even though they're both closer.
Speaker 1: It was sudden.
Speaker 2: I find that Sutton has this high expectation of Kyle.
Speaker 2: The disconnect is real. I cannot see why and how
Speaker 2: Kyle's supposed to pandite. So it Kyle's like, but we're friends, Sutton.
Speaker 2: You know I love you.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's true? It was for me last year,
Speaker 1: but I didn't speak up on purpose because you're my
Speaker 1: friend and I love you.
Speaker 2: But even when that came out of her mouth, I
Speaker 2: don't know, like it that didn't sound.
Speaker 1: This is where even though it wasn't a crazy finale
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, we weren't left on a
Speaker 1: massive cliffhanger, we weren't left like gasping, but we could
Speaker 1: feel the ground shifting. The dynamic is moving and you
Speaker 1: were starting to see the alliances and the friendships change
Speaker 1: and evolve. And I think that was definitely something that
Speaker 1: we started to see with Garsell and Sutton, and I
Speaker 1: think it's something that Sutton has been seeing all season
Speaker 1: with Kyle. She's thought that her and Kyle were in
Speaker 1: a better place than they were, and she's been gunning
Speaker 1: for that validation all year. And also she can see
Speaker 1: Kyle and Derete getting back to a better place. So
Speaker 1: from where we started with Derete and Kyle well at
Speaker 1: absolute odds with each other, it kind of came full
Speaker 1: circle by the end of it.
Speaker 2: We got a resolution on the Kyle Durrete type situation,
Speaker 2: and I think that was great that we got some
Speaker 2: movement there, so we can see that those two can
Speaker 2: have a friendship next season. I just really have to
Speaker 2: wonder how Sutton fits into the mold. I'm foreshadowing something
Speaker 2: while talking about ourselves exit, which we'll talk a bit
Speaker 2: more about in a little bit. But you can't be
Speaker 2: left on the show when your only close friend is
Speaker 2: the friend of that has been already brought to the
Speaker 2: show for you. I really don't mean anything bad about
Speaker 2: this in regards to Jennifer Tilly as a person, but
Speaker 2: she's not being invited to events at Kyle Richard's house
Speaker 2: or any Erica's house. Like, I just don't see Jennifer
Speaker 2: Tilly having enough in common with any of the other
Speaker 2: women to warrant her being the connections for Sutton to
Speaker 2: be in the group. And it's interesting to say that
Speaker 2: because Jennifer Tillik for the first time this season got
Speaker 2: an interesting storyline and that she came over and told
Speaker 2: the other women about you know, the.
Speaker 5: Yes, Erica started saying about the problem, said the group
Speaker 5: pass worth Hara, and then you kind of jumped in
Speaker 5: a little bit. She felt sort of like it was
Speaker 5: like a coordinated group effort, like we planned that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she really got hung out to drive for that.
Speaker 2: I think she was allowed and she was in her
Speaker 2: right to have that conversation with the women. I think
Speaker 2: it was a fair assumption. An assumption is what she did.
Speaker 2: She assumed that this is how her friend was feeling.
Speaker 2: So then when Erica took sutain titask the next day,
Speaker 2: which we saw only as a flashback, you know, it
Speaker 2: was really unfortunate because Erica walked away to go to
Speaker 2: dinner to go to Garcell and to Jennifer Tilly. Which
Speaker 2: one of you two girls made this up? Or this
Speaker 2: must be your opinion.
Speaker 6: I've heard about three and nine planning this thing.
Speaker 1: On the ball.
Speaker 5: Eric had started saying about the problems that the group
Speaker 5: passworth Hara, and then you kind of jumped in a.
Speaker 2: Little bit, you know, and then Jennifer Tilly handled herself
Speaker 2: quite well in that situation. But realistically, looking back at
Speaker 2: this season, Jennifer Tilly is fodder. She's a seat filler
Speaker 2: on this show.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that was all she was to be.
Speaker 1: I think they just wanted some comedic relief. I think
Speaker 1: they're doing that as a tick box exercise, like I've
Speaker 1: said before, from a production point of view, because they
Speaker 1: don't want the accusation, Oh it's so dark from the fans.
Speaker 1: Oh it's too toxic, Oh it's too much. They just
Speaker 1: plunk her or Kathy in wherever there's a window to
Speaker 1: add a bit of a giggle, add a bit of
Speaker 1: a lighthearted moment, and then they're like, Okay, well we've
Speaker 1: ticked that box. But I've thought just to go back
Speaker 1: to your point there about that scene with erica't going
Speaker 1: to Sutton and say the day after the boat, I've
Speaker 1: been told that you're friends sink this is a coordinated attack.
Speaker 1: You know, where did you stand on these like did
Speaker 1: you know this was being said?
Speaker 6: Your friends Garcel and Jennifer think Dart and I did
Speaker 6: this to you on purpose on the belt?
Speaker 1: Is that true? I can't speak to what they've said.
Speaker 3: I'm asking you right now, did you know that was
Speaker 3: being said?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I thought, how have we not seen this whole scene
Speaker 1: play out? You know, hats off to Erica because she'll
Speaker 1: raise something like that, and then she still went, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go have a calm conversation with her
Speaker 1: the next day. I'm going to speak to her face.
Speaker 1: There was no one else around to get involved in it,
Speaker 1: and I just want to get the state of play.
Speaker 1: And I just thought that I feel like would have
Speaker 1: been quite an important scene to show in its entirety.
Speaker 2: They knew it was a clanger for her to go
Speaker 2: to these women. You know, was it you? Was it you?
Speaker 2: Because suddenly yesterday we're saying it.
Speaker 1: Was it you.
Speaker 6: Or is it you?
Speaker 2: It wasn't a timing issue. I think it just made
Speaker 2: sense for the conflict, for the drama and for us
Speaker 2: as viewers to be a little bit you know, draw
Speaker 2: to the floor, because we were a little bit all.
Speaker 2: I think everyone was a little bit blindsided by Erica's directness.
Speaker 1: She was like really.
Speaker 2: Aggressive in the way that she came for those women,
Speaker 2: which I thought was a little uncalled for.
Speaker 1: I think she was aggressive. I think she was. She
Speaker 1: was just like I knew well she was, because she
Speaker 1: was like, I've got the facts and this is what
Speaker 1: we've seen, and we saw this last week when she
Speaker 1: laid it out to Sutton in the first place. She
Speaker 1: was like, these are the facts, these are supporting arguments.
Speaker 1: Here's the examples of when you've done this. And even
Speaker 1: though Jennifer Tilly was like, oh, she lead it all
Speaker 1: out like a lawyer, I was like, yes, because her
Speaker 1: husband was a lawyer and she was with him for
Speaker 1: twenty something years, so she knows what she's doing. And
Speaker 1: I think that's why she went to Sutton and she
Speaker 1: was like, before I take this to the group, I'm
Speaker 1: going to go to the horse's mouth and be like
Speaker 1: did you know this was being said? And also whatever
Speaker 1: we missed in that conversation, there was obviously some kind
Speaker 1: of resolution between the two of them. By the time
Speaker 1: Erica sat there at the table and said, was it
Speaker 1: you that said this?
Speaker 4: Was it you?
Speaker 1: She was like, but sudden, I know you want to
Speaker 1: move forward, as do I. And so all of a
Speaker 1: sudden Sutton calling her a crazy bitch and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: In the hot moment on the boat, it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that was fine. They were fine again by that point.
Speaker 1: So something happen and there that we didn't get to see,
Speaker 1: but there obviously was some kind of resolution between something
Speaker 1: and Erica.
Speaker 2: Do you actually think though the biggest conversational topic I
Speaker 2: saw online and people asking whether or not Kyle durt
Speaker 2: and Erica did actually form an alliance and come up
Speaker 2: with a plan. The majority of those people that have
Speaker 2: been sitting around the background saying nasty things about the
Speaker 2: Fox Fource five for like the last however many years,
Speaker 2: now they're like, see, this is exactly right. There's just
Speaker 2: three of them left to do this.
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. I don't think it was a
Speaker 1: Fox Falls five. I don't think there was a coordinated attack.
Speaker 1: Erica has been waiting to say that for three years.
Speaker 1: She saw her window, she took it derete Obviously, with
Speaker 1: everything that's happened to her with Sutton this season. Had
Speaker 1: every right to jump in on that conversation. That doesn't
Speaker 1: mean it's a premeditated, coordinated approach to the conversation. It
Speaker 1: just means, well, I'm adding to the conversation. And then Kyle,
Speaker 1: I think is more just like, I don't have time
Speaker 1: for this bullshit, something so up and down. I really
Speaker 1: want to be dealing with her on the rig. I'm
Speaker 1: happy to be friends with her, but I'm not going
Speaker 1: to stick my neck out for her because you know,
Speaker 1: and she said she said a lot of things about
Speaker 1: her in this episode on her confessionals that made me
Speaker 1: just go n she just take her at face value,
Speaker 1: but she doesn't really want anything to do with her
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and why would you?
Speaker 2: I mean, sudden went to that dinner party, and it
Speaker 2: was so uncomfortable watching Actually, it was really uncomfortable watching
Speaker 2: all of the women. I have to say, it's never
Speaker 2: funny to mock people for their voices, their accents, their characterizations.
Speaker 2: I find that a really dangerous and really gross way
Speaker 2: to belittle someone. Started with Garcel in the piece to camera,
Speaker 2: mocking Erica and saying, you know who am I.
Speaker 7: Let me try and do Erica Tom's carr went over
Speaker 7: a hill it snows in Pasadena and oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 7: going to come for you, bitch.
Speaker 2: That was hideous and I was like, that's definitely being
Speaker 2: brought up in the reunion and everyone can go Garcel
Speaker 2: for these piece to camera moments she's been doing for years,
Speaker 2: being sweet and lovely to people's faces and then ripping
Speaker 2: them in those piece to cameras, like someone needs to
Speaker 2: have a serious conversation. But didn't you think sudden mimicking Erica?
Speaker 2: Mimicking her was like a child at the table.
Speaker 1: Yes, listen to what I'm saying. Yes, Okay, She's got
Speaker 1: a real thing with like she wants to be in
Speaker 1: on the joke, and then when she feels like the
Speaker 1: joke's against her, she takes it to a weird place.
Speaker 1: She takes it too far. You could tell she was
Speaker 1: getting really pissed off. She had the aggression. The look
Speaker 1: on Kyle's face was like, Okay, we were literally just
Speaker 1: having a laugh. Now you've taken it there. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: just felt like the ground was shifting in that that
Speaker 1: finale episode and we were starting to see where those cracks.
Speaker 2: Were, and you know what if Kathy Hilton's pissing her
Speaker 2: pants on TV. Something's not right?
Speaker 1: What was that? I tinkled in my shortsh I have
Speaker 1: a little secret kin.
Speaker 2: But she went and had a full costume change. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you picked up on that. They gave
Speaker 2: her a new outfit, but they look like they bought
Speaker 2: something from one of the stalls, even for Kathy Hilton.
Speaker 2: That outfit she goes back to the table with literally
Speaker 2: looks like a kid threw up on themselves, you know,
Speaker 2: in a car trip, that.
Speaker 1: Cold compress around her neck, and I just was like,
Speaker 1: maybe she isn't well, Like something does seem a little amissed.
Speaker 1: I've got to be honest with you.
Speaker 2: If Elissa Rena was there, she would have been able
Speaker 2: to hand her out adult diapers, diapers depends, and she
Speaker 2: was like, I was paid more for these pants than
Speaker 2: anything that any of you have ever been paid for.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: Hats off did both choose the short straw with having
Speaker 2: to hand having to hang out with Sutton in that
Speaker 2: moment where the groups went away and separated.
Speaker 8: There's been a lot of distance between Sutton and I.
Speaker 8: I believe Sutton has made up a narrative in her
Speaker 8: head that I'm team to read and nobody else they're.
Speaker 1: A side white.
Speaker 2: Oh, Bose has never really been chatting to Sutton one
Speaker 2: on one. I don't know what they were doing. I
Speaker 2: kind of remember I was so shocked. Were they rolling
Speaker 2: sushi or making plato? I don't know, But Sutton looks
Speaker 2: so confused about what the hell she was doing hanging
Speaker 2: out with this woman. But the reason why we bring
Speaker 2: this up is because Sutton did something that we've been
Speaker 2: talking about all season, and you appreciate something for the
Speaker 2: reads that she gives. She gave a read that was.
Speaker 1: Very accurate about the background.
Speaker 2: About the fact that Bose understand the history of the women.
Speaker 2: Rick has said this to Bose the whole season long.
Speaker 2: We've always been sitting there going how is she blindly
Speaker 2: defending Dart? Why is she being like this? And then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he got sudden who drops the
Speaker 2: clanger to Bosa's face and is like, hmm, actually no,
Speaker 2: I don't know if she says it to her face, well,
Speaker 2: we definitely get it in the piece of camera.
Speaker 4: Bose doesn't understand our history completely within this group, So
Speaker 4: I need to kind of explain Kyle and Erica have
Speaker 4: a long history together and they are allegiant to one another.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, this is the thing when you come in,
Speaker 1: you're new and you don't have all that history and
Speaker 1: the back dynamics and how things have evolved over the years,
Speaker 1: and it's a difficult place for a newcomer to be
Speaker 1: because you have to try and be observant, be watchful,
Speaker 1: but still make an impact, still be able to jump in,
Speaker 1: still be able to form some kind of friendships. So
Speaker 1: I think she's navigated it pretty well, and you know,
Speaker 1: there's still things that she's going to learn, and that's
Speaker 1: just how it is.
Speaker 2: Did you enjoy the fact that we got that moment
Speaker 2: stars with that makeup? Is what I'm going to call
Speaker 2: this segment. We all of a sudden cut from some
Speaker 2: very glamorous footage of Erica, Jane and Deret formerly known
Speaker 2: as Kensley, not wearing any makeup and looking like two
Speaker 2: gay bitches at the smoker's area of Pufdorff, just bitching
Speaker 2: about things.
Speaker 6: Wow, dear God, and instead it turned into you know,
Speaker 6: everybody's being new to me.
Speaker 1: It's a pileline and then.
Speaker 2: Powy, I want to quickly say, before we get to
Speaker 2: how many Alana mcleans you've given this episode? What did
Speaker 2: you make of the outfits that Bosma had picked for
Speaker 2: all the women to wear, because I don't know any
Speaker 2: of my girlfriends that would want to put on those outfits.
Speaker 2: Some of them were better than others. I think Kyle
Speaker 2: Richards definitely was allowed to ask which one she was
Speaker 2: going to wear, and some of the other people.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I just feel like you would
Speaker 1: have won over a full warning for your wax to
Speaker 1: be on point, because if there was one err and hair,
Speaker 1: it would have been out there. Go get your wax
Speaker 1: and then tomorrow go back and get it done again.
Speaker 2: Because I mean, I don't know any of my girlfriends
Speaker 2: that are my age, that are forty five that could
Speaker 2: wear those outfits without it looking like they needed to
Speaker 2: iron them first. But it just was wild. I mean,
Speaker 2: Erica looked great, but even still, you are a total prostitute,
Speaker 2: and are you?
Speaker 1: I mean I thought they were fun. I thought they
Speaker 1: looked you know, but I mean, look, they were not
Speaker 1: for the faint hearted. And yeah, there was a lot
Speaker 1: to be I thought it was a lot to be seen. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot. There was a lot. In the words of
Speaker 1: both people have taken it as far as they could
Speaker 1: take it, you know.
Speaker 2: But even her, she was like walking in and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, it's all out there.
Speaker 1: I mean it should have come with like a you know,
Speaker 1: nudity warning. Really it was. It was a step away
Speaker 1: from only fans. To be honest, you'd probably get paid
Speaker 1: for that if you were at I.
Speaker 2: Just wonder I was going to text you and ask
Speaker 2: you if you thought that you were back at the races.
Speaker 2: They all looked like a bunch of horses ready to
Speaker 2: take the Melbourne Cap, like stomping the feet, ready to go.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, I mean it was fun. I
Speaker 1: liked that it ended on that scene with them all
Speaker 1: dancing and you know, having fun. I mean it was good.
Speaker 2: Did they cut the bit out where Sutton Bend's over
Speaker 2: and goes, hey, Garcela, I'm wearing a thong because that
Speaker 2: was in the original promo. I remember seeing it.
Speaker 1: Do you know what's just come to my mind? Wasn't
Speaker 1: there on the promo when they were wearing those outfits
Speaker 1: Gassell and Erica pashing? Yes, we never saw it.
Speaker 2: And we did not get to see where is the pash?
Speaker 1: Is that? Because they've ended up having such a blue
Speaker 1: at their reunion.
Speaker 2: Garcell's decision to leave this show requires a lot of questions.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of people out there wondering
Speaker 2: why she has gone, and we do see in the
Speaker 2: reunion that she walks away and she doesn't do the
Speaker 2: cast photo, and then we've got Erica and Bo's on
Speaker 2: Watch What Happens Live? Really contradicting Andy Cohen.
Speaker 6: I also like, when we were at the reunion, and
Speaker 6: I know that she was upset, and obviously we've known
Speaker 6: that she's quit for two weeks.
Speaker 3: Okay, we knew this, but when you were there, I
Speaker 3: didn't you knew that she I didn't know that she
Speaker 3: quit for well, no, when she when she loved his history, No, no, no.
Speaker 2: And Andy Cohen then went and contradicted them again by
Speaker 2: going on his own podcast to say how incorrect the
Speaker 2: information that was on Watch what Happened Live?
Speaker 6: Was.
Speaker 9: It was very real. It was one of the most
Speaker 9: real conversations that you know that it ended where it ended,
Speaker 9: But I would say it ended with her saying, I'm
Speaker 9: going to choose kind.
Speaker 1: Of my life love and that's I love it too,
Speaker 1: and that's why. Also I was like, look take up.
Speaker 9: To you know, call us in a year, by the way,
Speaker 9: if you feel like it and see where you're at.
Speaker 2: What's your reaction to the women to Gathel leaving and
Speaker 2: the women on watch What Happens Live?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I was shocked when I saw Garzel
Speaker 1: with the post. I think I saw it, like pretty
Speaker 1: much as soon as she put it up live. It
Speaker 1: was first thing in my feed. I think it had
Speaker 1: only been live for a couple of minutes, and I thought, WHOA,
Speaker 1: Like that is massive and I just wouldn't have seen
Speaker 1: it coming. And I just was you know, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to spend time with my boys
Speaker 1: and I'm working on these projects, and I thought, huh.
Speaker 7: I've decided to leave Beverly Hills. It's been a wild ride.
Speaker 7: I mean, some amazing things have happened and some hard
Speaker 7: things have also happened, but it's been a ride. Nevertheless,
Speaker 7: one of the reasons why I'm leaving is my family.
Speaker 1: My boys.
Speaker 7: Their last year of high school is next year and
Speaker 7: I want to be a part of that. And Jade
Speaker 7: is starting a new career and I want to be
Speaker 7: a part of that too.
Speaker 1: And secondly, I have the most.
Speaker 7: Exciting projects that I am developing, producing and acting in.
Speaker 7: I can't tell you anything right now, but you'll know soon.
Speaker 7: And I just want to say thank you to Andy Cohen,
Speaker 7: to Bravo, NBC Universal Evolution, thirty two Flavors, the producers,
Speaker 7: the crew, and of course the ladies. Andy Cohen says,
Speaker 7: I can come back anytime. The door will always be open.
Speaker 1: So you never know.
Speaker 7: I might pop back in sometime. To the fans, I
Speaker 7: want to say thank you so much. You guys have
Speaker 7: cheered me on supported me, and so sometimes even fought
Speaker 7: for me or on my behalf.
Speaker 2: It means a lot, and I.
Speaker 7: Hope you guys will continue on this journey with me.
Speaker 7: It's not goodbye, it's see you later.
Speaker 2: Put a load of shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, huh, like it was a classy, you
Speaker 1: know video, and I think she worded it nicely, and
Speaker 1: I appreciated the fact that she did a proper video
Speaker 1: because I think, you know, we've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: these women leave and they just put a post up
Speaker 1: with a photo or you know, and I just sort
Speaker 1: of thought, no, I kind of appreciated that. But that
Speaker 1: was before we saw this reunion trailer drop.
Speaker 6: I don't want to leave here tonight thinking, Oh, shoot,
Speaker 6: I wish.
Speaker 1: I said that, leave nothing on the table.
Speaker 9: Great coming up The Real Housewives in Beverly Hills reunion, Jory.
Speaker 9: The viewers loved seeing you smoking, Kyle.
Speaker 1: Did PK send you a meme about it? Oh?
Speaker 9: Damn? Erica said she wanted to see Sutton and Garcel
Speaker 9: open up more.
Speaker 6: You know something, No, I wish you were more interesting,
Speaker 6: I guess Ooh damn.
Speaker 8: It didn't take a rocket scientist to understand what was
Speaker 8: going on, and you came in strong.
Speaker 1: I am strong.
Speaker 3: We asked PK if he wanted to appear today.
Speaker 1: I know he sent a statement. Did he?
Speaker 2: How are you feeling about today?
Speaker 1: Enjoying my lunch, not about the lunch.
Speaker 2: About going out there on stage?
Speaker 1: Oh I'm excited, Erica.
Speaker 6: You're thinking, what is that my living room table?
Speaker 9: Has the experience been what you thought it would be.
Speaker 5: It's glittery, and it's glamorous, and then there's screaming.
Speaker 9: You told your girls you may be a lesbian too.
Speaker 1: To make you feel better, Just let me talk to
Speaker 1: this only please. She did not sign up for the show.
Speaker 7: She didn't sign up for this show this season putting
Speaker 7: out a music video.
Speaker 1: That is the two of you as lovers. You can't
Speaker 1: have your cake and eat it too. You went back
Speaker 1: to your room and ocean side and called PK. Can
Speaker 1: you just wrap your head around how stuff that is?
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm superior to anything.
Speaker 6: You don't exactly live like the Queen of Sheba.
Speaker 1: You live on the main road.
Speaker 9: How did it feel seeing what Carcel said about in
Speaker 9: the break in.
Speaker 1: You intimated that it was PK?
Speaker 7: Was I the only one that felt that way?
Speaker 1: You tell me who else?
Speaker 5: You're four other people from Twitter?
Speaker 1: I'm just so being sick of it, Garshou. I can't
Speaker 1: be friends with people like that. I don't trust them.
Speaker 2: They're all assles.
Speaker 1: The Beverly Hills reunion drops next Uesady And when we
Speaker 1: saw that reunion trailer drop and her being on the
Speaker 1: receiving end of a lot of pushback, a lot of
Speaker 1: you know, tension with her and derate eric Is saying
Speaker 1: I wish you were more interesting, her storming off her
Speaker 1: in the green room saying I can't be friends with
Speaker 1: people like that, you can't trust any of them. I thought, Wow,
Speaker 1: something has shifted here, and I felt upset because the
Speaker 1: reason that I was excited for where Garcelle was going
Speaker 1: in these couple of episodes. I was excited to see
Speaker 1: her without the alliance with Sutton. I was excited by
Speaker 1: the fact that she was pushing Kyle on the Morgan
Speaker 1: Wade thing because no one else was, and I thought, Wow,
Speaker 1: we're going to see another side of her without this
Speaker 1: sudden friendship. She's realizing it's bullshit. Where is she going
Speaker 1: to go? What is she going to do with this?
Speaker 1: And I was thinking she was in the pocket, but
Speaker 1: for her to walk and I think this is where
Speaker 1: Erica and bows. You know, it was a very frosty
Speaker 1: answer that they gave on Watch What Happens Live, and
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of mean, Like I was like,
Speaker 1: oh God, Like, if she's already decided to leave, I
Speaker 1: don't know if we need to, you know, be so
Speaker 1: rude about the whole thing. But I feel like where
Speaker 1: they're pissed off is like we've had well, not bows yet,
Speaker 1: but everyone's had to go through a really tough season.
Speaker 1: Everyone's had to go through a tough reunion. You cannot
Speaker 1: keep sitting on the boundary and not face it, but
Speaker 1: then to not come back to actually leave. I think
Speaker 1: they just Erica would have thought that that was piss poor.
Speaker 2: There's only one thing that leads to a woman doing that,
Speaker 2: and that is when you were backed into the corner
Speaker 2: and everyone is against you. This makes me think that
Speaker 2: Sutton says something to Garcel that destroys their friendship, because
Speaker 2: that's collective that she says in the promo for the reunion,
Speaker 2: which is like none of these women are to be trusted.
Speaker 2: I think is something like that. I'm paraphrasing and I'll
Speaker 2: dig it up something to make you think that Sutton
Speaker 2: was included and you can't come back from that, Like
Speaker 2: if Garsel doesn't have Sudden, and this is the reason
Speaker 2: why those two have clung to each other for dear life,
Speaker 2: they both don't work on the show. So like I
Speaker 2: think Garcell always tried to hold on to Suton to
Speaker 2: keep a spot on the show. But I think now
Speaker 2: with Garcel going, maybe what I said last week is
Speaker 2: true and that I could see Andy Cohen firing Sudden.
Speaker 2: I really don't see that she has a place on
Speaker 2: this show. And I really think take all the money
Speaker 2: that you've got that you've been paying Garcel and Sutton
Speaker 2: strat to be on the show, and your money for
Speaker 2: Jennifer Tilly and your money for Kathy Hilton. Take all
Speaker 2: of that and give that money to Lisa van der
Speaker 2: Pomp or Lisa Rinna and make them come back. That's
Speaker 2: the only thing that's going to make sense at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right in the fact that the
Speaker 1: friendship with Sutton, she has got to a point where
Speaker 1: she is foreshadowing a potential takedown season. She's like, I
Speaker 1: have gone out on a limb and I've pushed on
Speaker 1: all these things. I thought I was going to have
Speaker 1: Sutton backing me up. Maybe I don't, And now she's
Speaker 1: had to go, well, I'm at a crossroads here. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'll just bow out, which is what she's obviously done.
Speaker 1: But for the other women who have sat through season
Speaker 1: after season of uncomfortability of being pushed to the limit,
Speaker 1: Garcel really hasn't ever been in that position in five years.
Speaker 1: And I'm not taking away what she's done. I think
Speaker 1: it was an amazing contribution. I think she has been
Speaker 1: good on the show. I think you can't take away
Speaker 1: the fact that she was the first black woman on
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills on that show. I think she has had
Speaker 1: it enormous value, and I think she has been amazing
Speaker 1: in her confessionals more so than the day to day
Speaker 1: She hasn't had as much going on, but I don't
Speaker 1: think everyone needs to have that level all the time.
Speaker 1: But I think the other women were like, we can't
Speaker 1: believe you've walked, just because you're foreshadowing a bit of
Speaker 1: an uncomfortable season. As for the Lisa vander Pump Lisa
Speaker 1: Rinner thing, I don't think any money in the world
Speaker 1: is going to make either of them come back. I
Speaker 1: think Lisa vander Pump is just too proud, and Lisa Rinner,
Speaker 1: I think at this point just doesn't need it. She's
Speaker 1: got all this extra stuff happenings. She's been model, She's
Speaker 1: been very vocal about the fan base driving her off
Speaker 1: the show. She's kind of bashed the show, so I
Speaker 1: don't think Andy Colin will be too happy with her.
Speaker 1: I just can't see her.
Speaker 2: Coming back, which is disappointing. The only other Housewife that
Speaker 2: I would really like to see back next year is
Speaker 2: oh two of them is Eileen Davidson and Teddy Mellencamp.
Speaker 2: I think that those two should be brought back.
Speaker 1: Well, there is a lot of ground twelve Eileen and
Speaker 1: I loved Eileen, and I loved her friendship with Rinna too.
Speaker 1: Like she was just a class she was a class act.
Speaker 1: She was like Yolanda. She was very classy. She sort
Speaker 1: of she got in there, but she never took it
Speaker 1: too far. She asked questions, but in an eloquent way.
Speaker 1: You know, she was great. I think Teddy unfortunately just
Speaker 1: medically has too much going on. I really worry for her.
Speaker 1: I don't I can't see her coming back.
Speaker 2: Well, how many a lot of mcleans are you giving
Speaker 2: this episode? I'm going to go with a reunion standard,
Speaker 2: so like holding this up as a reunion episode, I'm
Speaker 2: going to give it a three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say this was a three and a half.
Speaker 1: I think it was. It was a fine place to finish.
Speaker 1: The reunion trailer does look good. I really hope the
Speaker 1: reunion stacks up because last year we had a three
Speaker 1: parter and really could have been in two, and we
Speaker 1: didn't get a lot. This looks juicier. This looks like
Speaker 1: even Kyle, they're still asking the questions about Morgan. You know,
Speaker 1: we've got that piece with Kathy's. Like I told my
Speaker 1: kids I was a lesbian to make you feel better,
Speaker 1: and she was like, can I just talk about this?
Speaker 1: So I feel like there is going to be, you know,
Speaker 1: the Deurit and Sutton beef is not finished. We've got
Speaker 1: Derey giving the digs to Sutton, which is a little
Speaker 1: bit rich about her house, considering derete houses in pre
Speaker 1: foreclosure with the bank.
Speaker 2: That's a good retaliation. If she says, let's see where
Speaker 2: you're living next year, she should say, well, you were
Speaker 2: not the Queen of Siba. You are living on the
Speaker 2: main road. And I know where Sutton's house is because
Speaker 2: I used to live in Los Angeles, and it really
Speaker 2: shocked me when I found out where it was because
Speaker 2: the camera pan back and I was like, oh, I
Speaker 2: know that freeway that's just right there as well, Like,
Speaker 2: but can't really.
Speaker 1: Say that when dere has her house being taken by
Speaker 1: the bank as she's now, so you know, and it's
Speaker 1: all of their kind of the shade back and forth,
Speaker 1: you know. But look, I am pumped for the reunion.
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I feel like Bose was a great addition.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see potentially if they replaced ourselves with
Speaker 1: another cast member who that's going to be and how
Speaker 1: that's going to shift the dynamic. I think even though
Speaker 1: I didn't want Oursels or necessarily think Oursel was going
Speaker 1: to leave, I think that might just give it the
Speaker 1: shake up that I kind of needed. We did have
Speaker 1: some very significant lulls in this season, and we did
Speaker 1: have some, you know, patches where you and I were like,
Speaker 1: we don't know where this is going to go. We
Speaker 1: don't know how they're going to keep this rolling for
Speaker 1: another few episodes. So maybe another cast member in that
Speaker 1: mix might just be the ticket.
Speaker 2: I would say, they need to return someone and they
Speaker 2: need to bring in someone fresh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: Hey, well, I have to go and do the school
Speaker 2: pickup with my friend's kid, So I am running into
Speaker 2: ab late. But this is it to be continued because
Speaker 2: we're going to be back next week talking about the
Speaker 2: first reunion, part one of three, and I'm excited.
Speaker 1: Okay, bring it on reunion time.
Speaker 2: Honey, and gon't get another wine.
Speaker 1: I think I've had enough here have you had today?
Speaker 1: Not just that one? That one?
Speaker 2: Oh no, that one.
Speaker 1: That's probably enough for now.
Speaker 2: At the end of last week's episode, you were like,
Speaker 2: at the fridge, pouring some more wine into.
Speaker 1: Well, it's because we keep recording on a Friday, I
Speaker 1: mean you want me to do.
Speaker 2: I can confirm that this hasn't even had a quarter
Speaker 2: of a drunk. Yes, thumbs by that never again. I'll
Speaker 2: send you the brand. I'll send you the brand and
Speaker 2: say never to buy it.
Speaker 1: Much love to you, much love to you. Bye bye
Speaker 1: bye