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Speaker 1: Barrow, who joined us yesterday as he does every Wednesday

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Speaker 1: for dad Chat, and it was an emotional one for

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Speaker 2: They had to make the sad decision to say goodbye

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Speaker 2: to their last pug, Lily this week. She had a

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Speaker 2: neurological condition that her legs wouldn't work, so he was

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Speaker 2: not left any choice. It was time that Lily had

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Speaker 2: to go over the rainbow bridge, as they say. And

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Speaker 2: we got a lot of reaction because one of the

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Speaker 2: things that Barrow was talking about was how do you

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Speaker 2: deal with this situation with your kids, because he felt

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Speaker 2: guilt because one of his kids didn't get the chance

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Speaker 2: to say and I don't think he should feel any

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Speaker 2: guilt there. It's not Barra's fault. Sometimes you don't get

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Speaker 2: to say you don't get to round everyone up to

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Speaker 2: say goodbye. But we did get a good text from

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Speaker 2: someone who didn't leave their name, but they said we

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Speaker 2: recently lost our pug who was sixteen. What made it

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Speaker 2: most difficult was that I had to tell a now

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Speaker 2: adult childhood mental health issues that our pug had died.

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Speaker 2: So we got through it by letting her take full

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Speaker 2: control from going to see him just after he died

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Speaker 2: to the burial. Everything was done to her requests and

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Speaker 2: that seemed to work the best for them in that situation.

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Speaker 1: So that's, you know, that's their their strategy. Maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: you've been in the same situation and you have yours.

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Speaker 1: I mean, have you gone through the loss of a pet?

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Speaker 1: How did you deal with it? Were kids involved? How

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Speaker 1: did you break the news to the kids? How did

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Speaker 1: you make them just understand that it's part of life

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Speaker 1: and death. We'd love your input. We've got to Joe

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Speaker 1: on the line from Curenbine. Joe, good morning. You've had

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Speaker 1: this experience. You've lost a pet. How did you deal

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Speaker 3: It was terribly awful. We took him to the vet

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Speaker 3: and they were very beautiful. The whole the whole thing

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Speaker 3: was quite heartbreaking. But we took him home and our

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Speaker 3: little miniaturetion now is that Tilly was able to cope.

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Speaker 3: I guess better. She We sat with her for a while.

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Speaker 3: She sniffed him and nudged him. That with him, Yeah

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Speaker 3: and yeah. We actually had him cremated. So when I

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Speaker 3: took him out to the car for the people to

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Speaker 3: take him away, she hopped in the back of the

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Speaker 3: car and walked around and had a fine little sniff

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Speaker 3: and walked straight back to me. And yeah, she seemed

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Speaker 3: to crepe really well with it after that. She she

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Speaker 3: didn't she didn't look for him a lot around the house.

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Speaker 3: So I think that that was an important part of

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Speaker 3: it too, was helping her cope with his loss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's interesting. My mum had a very similar

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Speaker 2: situation Joe Reese, well about a year ago now, her

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Speaker 2: older dog died and she had a new puppy, and

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Speaker 2: she the new puppy went and had had a sniff

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Speaker 2: and you know, sort of hung around for maybe a

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Speaker 2: few minutes and then went away and was okay. So

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Speaker 2: they deal with it in their way as well. And

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Speaker 2: that is another thing to consider. The other animals in

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Speaker 2: the house. They've all together for who knows how long.

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Speaker 1: It affects everybody and every living thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it does. It's been four years and I'm still checking,

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Speaker 3: I know, Joe.

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Speaker 2: And I'm seeing the photo that you've sent us, and

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Speaker 2: it Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Jill.

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Speaker 3: He's still going strong so yet.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for sharing.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for sharing, Joe. We really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: We've got Jamie and Jamie.

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Speaker 5: Jamie, good morning all.

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Speaker 1: How are we good? How are you mate, I'm.

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Speaker 5: Not too bad. Yeah, I had the best mate seen years. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: after three years ago and he passed away. I've been

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Speaker 5: at work, got seven o'clock at night. My first question

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Speaker 5: was where's truly, and I reckon he's outside. Got to

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Speaker 5: the back door. He was standing about a meter away.

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Speaker 5: He looked at me and he.

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Speaker 2: Dropped, Oh, Jamie, he's probably waiting for you to get home.

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Speaker 5: Yep. So yeah, picked him up, took him inside, rang

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Speaker 5: the oldest daughter. He wasn't home at the time. She

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Speaker 5: got home, and we're all more like it was one

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Speaker 5: of the closest things we've ever lost, twelve a member.

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Speaker 1: Of the family, especially after all that time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. And then twelve months later he's little partner, Billy,

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Speaker 5: she passed away and it was the same thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I got I'm about far thirty and the girls were

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Speaker 5: all Billy's outside. She can't walk.

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Speaker 2: She did the same thing.

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Speaker 5: Yes, So I went outside. I picked her up for

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Speaker 5: her and thought, sat her on my lap, said everything

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Speaker 5: was all right, and she went away. She's Jamie.

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Speaker 1: They wait for you, Jamie.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It does break your heart, but I do think there's

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Speaker 2: something rather, you know, maybe better about that. Than having

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Speaker 2: to do all that sort of thing, just.

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Speaker 1: The chance to say goodbye.

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Speaker 5: Not that absolutely, and then the word part, we're out

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Speaker 5: of their lives. Leader, we still had one of their pops, Yeah, Bady,

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Speaker 5: And because she had always grown up around dogs, she

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Speaker 5: started freaking. Oh, the best thing was to give her up.

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Speaker 5: I gave it to me oldest daughter who has the

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Speaker 5: little dogs as well. Yeah, and bet it was the

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Speaker 5: best thing.

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Speaker 2: Drive you're still in the family.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Vets, of course are amazing and I've had wonderful experience

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Speaker 2: when I've had to say good buttt my animals with vets.

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Speaker 2: But also it's wonderful now days that you can get

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Speaker 2: someone to come to your house and you know, when

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Speaker 2: when you have to make that decision to have your

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Speaker 2: dog put to sleep, they can come and do it

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Speaker 2: at home. And that's you know that, that's a really

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Speaker 2: nice option.

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Speaker 5: That's what they've done with their two blue wheelers around

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Speaker 5: and that was beautiful as well.

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Speaker 2: And then they take care of the you know, when

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Speaker 2: you're not in your right state to be taken care

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Speaker 2: of what has to be taken care of. Yes, So

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Speaker 2: there are so many options available to us now to

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Speaker 2: give our pets, the you know, the ending that they deserve.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, we really appreciate that, mate. Kylie is

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Speaker 1: on the phone from cooling up morning, Kylie.

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Speaker 4: Oh, good morning.

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately it's something that's part of all our lives,

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Speaker 1: isn't it at some point.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, So I've got to try and do this without

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Speaker 4: their singing fears. And it's been three years. Yeah, we

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Speaker 4: had two, but our last one was an Alaskan Malamut,

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Speaker 4: big fifty kilo boy who chatted and loved everyone. And

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Speaker 4: one of the benefits of being able to use, like

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Speaker 4: you guys are saying, being able to go a vet,

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Speaker 4: was that the fact that I had time to take

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Speaker 4: him to his favorite shop, which was City Farmers. He

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Speaker 4: loved her and at the heart, you know, they all

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Speaker 4: got to stay goodbye. My family got to stay goodbye.

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Speaker 4: We got to take him for a final walk through

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Speaker 4: the park and he got to woo woo everyone. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and that's beautiful. They they absolutely loved him. They were

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Speaker 4: volunteers that they had to sign out the front saying

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Speaker 4: this is lit because we're currently losing a good friend,

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Speaker 4: you know. But it also goes on to what you said,

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Speaker 4: at least about other pets. And the one thing we

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Speaker 4: didn't think about was our neighbor. Our dog used to chatting.

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Speaker 4: We were to his dog. They never ever saw each other.

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Speaker 4: And I went to go and just say to my neighbor, hey,

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to let you know, and he went,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, Kylie, I didn't. Marco has been pining

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Speaker 4: couldn't understand why. And I just said, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: because they never met.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they can hear each other and they can

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Speaker 1: smell each other each other.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. Unfortunately, it's just one of those things

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Speaker 4: that we can't always say goodbye, but making sure we

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Speaker 4: give them love and attention and humans as well. And

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Speaker 4: like for us this, we've never been able to have children.

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Speaker 4: So our pets were our dog was everything. And I

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Speaker 4: can't replace I can't replace them.

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Speaker 2: Like we said, they are our best times and then

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Speaker 2: they are our worst times, and we all say I'm

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Speaker 2: never getting another one, and then of course we do.

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Speaker 2: But Kylie, thank you for sharing that.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 1: It's tough.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't it doesn't go away overnight, and it is tough.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't