1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back to episode three of the back Row Seats. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm Bella, one of your hosts, and this is my 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: co host Horse. This week we chat about the Wallaroos 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Versus USA thriller that ended in a draw. We chat 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: to Cheetah all the way over in the UK. Bez 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: catches up with triscoring Machine Maya Stuart's family that to 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: look forward to on the podcast. 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: Horse So cool, so many things. Now, what have you 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: been up to when? 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Personally? I have been doing SFA except seven from Scrum 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: School six seven except I was at the Gold Coast 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: on the weekend with your family. Good family holiday, family holidays. 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: A few days. Had my first burly pav experience. Oh 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: how was It was actually a lot of fun, I 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 1: can't lie. Did have an awkward encounter though with this 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: person who was at I hate to bring it up, 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: but I went to the Youth Common Games and I 18 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: was in line at the bar and I saw this 19 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: person that was also at the Youth Common Games and 20 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: a different sport. This was like probably eight years ago. Anyways, 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: went up to them and I was like, hey, hey, 22 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: do you remember me from the con Games and Bahamas? 23 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: And they were like yeah, Black rugby, and I was 24 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, and then they just went like this 25 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: and walked off, and I have not stopped thinking about it. 26 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: Awesome. What sport were they in? 27 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to say, okay, but they're an Olympian. 28 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So I felt like such a loser. Yeah, okay, 29 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: well that's okay. And what about you? What have you been. 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 3: Doing well on the weekend? 31 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 4: Now? 32 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: Mighty Rats won the shoot Shield final, so it was 33 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 2: good to get out there a bit of an omen. 34 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: In twenty seventeen our girls team won and first grade one, 35 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: and in twenty twenty five our team one and first 36 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: grade one. 37 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: So what do you call that? A difector? Like a 38 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: double factor? It's a do a double double? 39 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what it's called. 40 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: And I did hear saying the last time you saw 41 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: the Rats Winder Grand Final was. 42 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, two thousand and five and I was the ball 43 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: kid a Rat park they won, Yeah one down there. 44 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: So I was away at the cup in twenty seventeen 45 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: when they won, so it was pretty emotional, to be honest. 46 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: It was like, I don't know, yeah, it was crazy. 47 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: It was really good. I love my club. 48 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: And another interesting talking point is Rats women and men one, 49 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: bond UNI in Queensland women and men one, and in 50 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 2: one OFUE in Western Australia their men and women's teams 51 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: win one and in the camera corn I'm still going 52 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: our Union North Ours their men won and their women 53 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: came second. 54 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: So that's it must be something to do with. 55 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: You know, successful successful women make successful men. So but nah, 56 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 3: that's pretty much it. But let's jump into segment one right. 57 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: Recap of the first second round of the Women's Regulary 58 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: World Cup. 59 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: Round two kicked off with Canada defeating Wales forty two nil. 60 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: Scotland defeated the fast finishing Fijians twenty nine to fifteen, 61 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: securing their quarterfinal spot. England defeated Somemer ninety two to 62 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 2: three at another sold out stadium in Franklin Gardens. The 63 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: game of the round the Wallaroos versus USA and in 64 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: a thirty one all draw which we'll get too later. 65 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: And Ireland defeated Spain in a high scoring contest forty 66 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: three to twenty seven. 67 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: New Zealand showed their class defeating Japan sixty two to nineteen, 68 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: where Puscho wooden Wickcliff scored her fiftieth try for the 69 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: Black Ferns, becoming the first player in New Zealand rugby 70 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: men or women to do so. 71 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: Amazing. 72 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: The South Africans defeated Italy twenty nine to twenty four, 73 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: making history and qualifying for the quarterfinals for the first time, 74 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: and France defeated Brazil eighty four to five. Now the 75 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: Wallaroos game versus USA. We spoke about it at lengths 76 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: in the last episode, the preview, the lead up to it. 77 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: The game was there to be one, but we just 78 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: couldn't put USA away, couldn't put them away, and like 79 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: I think that was really down to the Wallarooes discipline. 80 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: It just kept inviting them back into the game. How 81 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: did you see it all play out? 82 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? 83 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: I think first of all, a couple of Miles Stones 84 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: that will acknowledge. Mack Leonard played her fortieth cap. She's 85 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: captain in the country for a couple of years and 86 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: she's been there for a while. Se congratulations to her. 87 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: Chileane palm Ray her third World Cup another amazing Yeah, 88 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: another amazing achievement for her. Daisy Miller double, Akaitlyn Hols double, 89 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: the last one she scored was amazing. 90 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: Hands from the Walleries back line. 91 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: Maya Stewart again only touched the ball once or twice. 92 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: I think one of them was off an overthrown line out. 93 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tea Lines came on with eight minutes to go 94 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: off the bench, just I don't know how they thought 95 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: she was going to win the game for them with 96 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: eight minutes, and Laane Morgan and Annabel Cody were not 97 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: used at all. 98 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: They were on the bench and they weren't used at all. 99 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: So first of all, congratulations all those achievements, but second 100 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: of all, those talking points, like I don't know, it 101 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: blew my mind a few of the substitutions. I just 102 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: the game was there's to be one, and it was. 103 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 2: It was in the balance. There were probably twenty minutes 104 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: to go, and I just thought, you know, okay, we'll 105 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: make some changes here and get Laying on for some 106 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: speed around the rock and just her experience around there 107 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: is unmatched. And then I thought, as well, maybe get 108 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: Annabel Cody on for some carries up the guts and 109 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: get Lanes some fastball behind that. 110 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 3: But hey, we're not the coaches, so. 111 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: We're not the coaches at all. But yeah, I said 112 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: it last week, it's going to be the bench that 113 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: I think really either makes or breaks, like either a 114 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: winner or loss. But I don't know, do you have 115 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: someone like Lori Kramer on the bench to close out 116 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: those games. She is the best kicker in Wallaro's She's 117 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: done it before. We know Sammy Wood's an amazing goalkicker, 118 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: and she was kicking beautifully off the tee. But she 119 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: did miss that crucial conversion right at the end, which 120 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: was very kickable and probably in her books as well, 121 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: she would kick that any other day of the week. 122 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: But perhaps the pressure of the game got to her. 123 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: And she's also still so young and inexperienced in those 124 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: big games. Is that where you need someone like Lori 125 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: Kramer coming on and Lane coming on to finish out 126 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: those games. 127 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they just need to look at the 128 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: makeup of their bench. We talked about the six to 129 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: two last week, and I agree with it again this week. 130 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: But I just think that the game probably turned a 131 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: different way to what they were expecting, and they were 132 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: up in the first half and then USA kind of 133 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: got the ascendency and then I don't think that they 134 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: had planned the changes, you know, to go the way 135 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: that they did. 136 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: And in my opinion. They didn't. 137 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: They didn't adapt on the run quick enough. So I 138 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: think that Tiaheins absolutely has a place in that twenty three. 139 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: But I just think that eight minutes to go she can't. 140 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: There's not you know, there's a miracle try that you 141 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: can score, but apart from that, like there's not much. 142 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: You can't really get a feel for a game and 143 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: find the space or have a quick little you know, 144 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: or where is it? But I just would have brought 145 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: her on, you know, with twenty a bit earlier and 146 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: on that. Like we talked about being a DD last week. 147 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: What is worse being a DD or suiting up and 148 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: not getting on? 149 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: Has it ever happened to you? 150 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: No, never happened to me, But I honestly I can 151 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: imagine it's probably worse than being a DD. Just sitting 152 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: there watching the game unfold. Every time the manager gets up, 153 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: you're kind of like waiting for them to look at 154 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: you to be like, go warm up, get your bib off, 155 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: go warm up. But yeah, it was quite quite sad 156 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: watching Belly, and I think it was on Belly most 157 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: of the time with the camera. But she's a great 158 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: team person and there's no way in her mind that 159 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: she would have thought she deserved to go on or whatever. 160 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: Like she was just you know, on the bench and 161 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: always supporting and backing the girls to get the job done. 162 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think in those times, like you said, 163 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: you bring that physicality on, that extra bit of punch. 164 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: We know she can really break a game, open up 165 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: the middle of the field and get the backs running 166 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: off one of her strong carries. 167 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think back to twenty seventeen World Cup, 168 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: the opening game we play Ireland and I was on 169 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: the bench and we I didn't go on it all either, 170 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: and the prop said there was Hailishah Sma and Liz 171 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: part two and we ended up losing by two points 172 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: and essentially it cost us a quarter final plays and 173 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: those two girls played their absolute hearts out, but they 174 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: were cooked. They had nothing more to give. And I 175 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: was sitting on the bench, you know, wanting to go. 176 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that I would have changed the game, 177 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: but it's just so interesting. It must be super difficult 178 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: as a coach to. 179 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: Make those changes. 180 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, I just thought I thought that they would 181 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: have brought they could have impacted the game earlier, earlier. 182 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so definitely agree just on playing eighty minutes. The 183 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: USA front rowers, I'll let you talk about them. 184 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, both of them did play eighty minutes, and a 185 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,559 Speaker 2: massive eighty minutes as well. My player of the match 186 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: was Sagapolu, who is the number three. She's the tight 187 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: end prop. 188 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: She just kept going and going and going. We talked 189 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: a few weeks ago about Hope Rogers. 190 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: And how we thought she needed her full pack to 191 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: come with her, and I felt like this was the 192 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: game for her peer in her tight end prop and yeah, 193 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: I just thought it was full on. She played amazingly 194 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: like they just kept going and good to try. Just 195 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 2: just kept punching it, kept kept tackling, and the last 196 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: five minutes was absolutely insane. With scrum penalty Caitlyn Lenie 197 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 2: big shout out to her shew through the mall, got 198 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: the ball, forced an error Walleroo's scrum and from there 199 00:08:59,280 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: miss passed. 200 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: The game nearly broke open. We saw Desi Miler get 201 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: some ball on the outside and use her speed and 202 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: then they were on for a big shift back out 203 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: wide and just a couple of misspasses and then an 204 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: attempted fifty twenty two from the kid and then the 205 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: full back Lotty Sharp just kicked the ball out to 206 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: end it on a draw. What would you do if 207 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: you were Lotty Sharp in that? 208 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: Well, it was an interesting situation. 209 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: I haven't talked to the kid, but I thought that 210 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: was also an interesting decision because kicker, even if it 211 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: was a fifty twenty two, it's still game over because 212 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: it was past eighty minutes, so obviously high pressure moments. 213 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: And has she seen the clock? Has she not? Like 214 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: there's so many ifs. 215 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: And butts, especially in a loud stadium as well, you can't. Yeah, 216 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: there's a lot happening. 217 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: But absolutely not. I would not be kicking it out 218 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: if I was Lotty Sharp. 219 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: I would rather lose trying to win than draw trying 220 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: to draw. 221 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: And I know we've spoken about the Walleries defense and 222 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: how much they've improved in that area. That's one thing 223 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: Joe's really really upped is the physicality and the defense, 224 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: and Waller has made two hundred and thirty two tackles 225 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: to the USA's I think it was like one hundred 226 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: and sixty or something crazy, so a lot of defense. 227 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: They did give away thirteen penalties and I think USA 228 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: only had six, so it is hard to win a 229 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: game with a lopsidded penalty count like that. But yeah, 230 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: I just think the defense again, it stood strong and 231 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: it's something they can really We'll get into the preview 232 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: of the England game next week, but that is something 233 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: they can really really take into that game next week, 234 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: their defense. 235 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: And yeah, I do think one thing on that though, 236 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: is like why are we making two hundred and thirty 237 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 2: two tackles? Why do we have to make a hundred 238 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: more tackles than the other team. We're giving them so 239 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: much ball and we're not holding onto the ball. Don't 240 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 2: get me wrong, that is like amazing stats. 241 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 3: Like the girls will be sore, but what's. 242 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: What is the breakdown that we are giving them so 243 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: much ball and so much opportunity for us to have 244 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: to make two hundred and thirty two tackles, that is 245 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 2: just outrageous numbers. So yeah, anyway, I guess that's our 246 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: summary of that. But the lens look this week. 247 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: This week, the game changing moment came from the conversion 248 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: shot clock. 249 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: Yep so in the twenty seventh minute of the Walleries 250 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: versus USA match, Frida Tafuna, who was elevated to the 251 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: starting team scored US's first try of the match and 252 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 2: her first of three tries, which is unreal. They changed 253 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 2: the rules last year to speed up play by bringing 254 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: in a one minute conversion clock for tries and penalties. 255 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have one minute to kick the conversion 256 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: and the timer starts once the try is scored. So 257 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: in that minute you need to celebrate the try, get 258 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: the ball, get your tee off the trainer, take it 259 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: back to in line to where the try was scored, 260 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: set the ball up and kick it. Now as McKenzie 261 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: Hawkins was about to take the kick, the ball fell 262 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: off the tee and the shot clock expired and both 263 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: kickers Semmi Wood mackenzie they went three from five off 264 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: the tee, with that instance being the game changing moment 265 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: being costly for the Americans as it was in a 266 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: very kickable spot. 267 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. First of all, I mean I have. 268 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: Kicked but you you've kicked points for Australia. 269 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 3: I have kick points for Australia. 270 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: But first of all, the first thing that you say 271 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: in that is like, in that minute, you have to 272 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 2: celebrate the try, Like I I just think that's such 273 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: an important thing, and that takes five to ten seconds. 274 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: First of all, like what you want to you want 275 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: to remove celebrating that for what purpose? 276 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: I'm just not too sure. 277 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: Like you, you know, if you've worked really hard, you 278 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: want to celebrate, and rugby is emotional, so you want 279 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: to get around the dry scorel anyway, talking point, she 280 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: had two seconds left on the clock as she went 281 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: to take the kick, so it probably would have timed 282 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: out anyway. 283 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. But for obviously I kick as well, 284 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: and the refs when you're like lining the ball up 285 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: to kick, the refs going twenty seconds, fifteen seconds, ten seconds, 286 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: and that like really low key stresses me out. I've 287 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: had to tell refs before, don't talk to me when 288 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: I can see the clock. Oh actually, last year there 289 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: wasn't a clock on the scoreboards in a few of 290 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: the stadiums we played at, so they used to have 291 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: to tell you that. But then I think again, now 292 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: they put the shot clock on the on the board, 293 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: like which it should be anyways, So personally, I have 294 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: a little routine that I lack to goalkick, as probably 295 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: every single goalkicker has, and in that moment, you really 296 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: don't want the ref saying twenty ten. It's really stressful. 297 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree. I don't like the rule. Why 298 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: can't they just stop the clock, have it stopped like 299 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: in rugby league, and then restart it once the kickoffs happening, 300 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel for her. Yes, it was pretty reachable. 301 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah kick for those of you that haven't seen as 302 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: essentially in front of the post and obviously massive if 303 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 2: they won that game, they're in the quarters. 304 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 3: So yes, it was crazy but game changing. 305 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: That was a game changing moment and I'm sure there 306 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: we've plenty of goal kicking practice going on this week. 307 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 3: With people yelling to it. 308 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing, Like when they brought it in, 309 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: you kind of just like, oh whatever, you probably take 310 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: less than a minute. But I've it's never happened to me. 311 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: But I like, make sure I practice now with someone 312 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: with a timer. But like, I love celebrating tries, so 313 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: you just got to make sure you get the ball 314 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 1: really quickly, Like get the ball, celebrate and then just 315 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: take it back to the spot. That's my tip for you. 316 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: Oh okay, a goalkicking I'll take that on board. Taken. 317 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: Thanks. 318 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 2: Now, this week, we are lucky enough to be joined 319 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: by Breanna Brown, or be known as Cheetah Cheata began 320 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: her superw career with the Melbourne Rebels in twenty nineteen 321 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: before joining the Queensland Reds in twenty twenty. Cheatah played 322 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: for Australia A team on a tour to Fiji in 323 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen and earned her first Australian Test cap in 324 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two after COVID delays, becoming. 325 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: Wallaroo number one hundred and ninety three. 326 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: Off the field, Cheetah serves as a corporal in the 327 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: Australian Army and also Cheetah is one of my favorite 328 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: roomies ever. 329 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: Low key, one of my favorite ones too. Yeah, and 330 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: now she has belly, so she's been with everyone. 331 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 332 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: Fun fact. We used to play board games. What was 333 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: the game was Cluto? 334 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: We used to play Cluto every religiously man Cheetah with 335 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: rooming together in christ Church twenty three and we just 336 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: religiously played Pluto. 337 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: But your robo and otherwise you weren't allowed in. 338 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: Your room robes only and if you had no robe, 339 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: no playing. 340 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: And b wa owned snacks. What are those little shirt 341 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: butt lilies? My little sticks from New Zealand for things? Yeah, 342 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: they're so good. You have to pay that tax as 343 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: well to get in the room. 344 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. 345 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: Bo Snacks bio extras for man Jenna Brown and Brown 346 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: also known as Cheatah. First of all, let's start off 347 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: last week we spoke on the podcast about d d's 348 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: a lot about d DS, and we did mention you 349 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: because you are the queen at the moment, it seems 350 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: to be. We just want to know obviously it's been 351 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: pretty tough couple of weeks so far. Yeah, what is 352 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: your attitude and mindset on like a Thursday or a 353 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: day after your day off, when you've found out selections haven't. 354 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: Gone your way? 355 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: How do you rock up on that morning knowing that 356 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: you are devastated, but you still have to show up 357 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: for your teammates and do everything you can to get 358 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: them prepared well. 359 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 4: So we get told Tuesday night and then we have 360 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 4: a day of Wednesday, so you have a day to 361 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: lack kind of process your feelings, maybe cry, maybe get 362 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 4: it all out there. Sometimes I do that, sometimes I don't. 363 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 4: But for me, I think I just get that emotion out, 364 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 4: whether I'm talking to my husband or talking to my friends, 365 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 4: get that kind of like release that way. So by Thursday, 366 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 4: when we have to train. I'm not holding onto those 367 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 4: feelings anymore, and that I've released that, and then I 368 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 4: can go into Thursday preparing my teammates to have the 369 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: best training session they possibly can to play their best 370 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 4: footy on Saturday. Yeah. 371 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: Nice. And a lot of listeners were like really interested 372 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: in that because they haven't obviously heard about it before 373 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: and they just were like, wow, like never realized how 374 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: much of a whole squad it takes, I guess to 375 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: win those games or to compete. So do you feel 376 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: like within that group at the moment of the non 377 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: twenty three like you're like taking those players along with you. 378 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: I guess there's a few new girls there that haven't 379 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: been to big tournaments or a few young cap players 380 00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: as well. 381 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: How are they feeling and taking it? 382 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 4: They're obviously upset, you know, going through the motions as well. 383 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 4: I think just being there to be like I've this 384 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 4: is my second World Cup of the same thing happening. 385 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 4: It's so tough and it's okay to be however you 386 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 4: want to feel in this moment, but just know like 387 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 4: these moments aren't gonna last forever, Like you're gonna there's 388 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 4: gonna be your time where you're gonna debut, like that 389 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 4: moment will come, and it's more just getting around them. 390 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 4: I think game day is like when it's the toughest 391 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 4: for us obviously, so getting around each other on that 392 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 4: day especially, we do like a team breakfast in the 393 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 4: morning for DD's breakfast. Well, we'll go out and just 394 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 4: spend time together before we have to like like get 395 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 4: on with the job in the afternoon, which is setting 396 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 4: up change rooms, making sure the girls have everything laid out, 397 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 4: water snacks, all their uniforms, their jerseys ready to go. 398 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 4: The change rooms have got the flags up, we've got 399 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 4: music pumping like it's just like a I think a 400 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 4: little bit the switch for us. And and yeah, they've 401 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 4: been great. We've all been We've all been there for 402 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 4: each other and I haven't had to do much, you know, 403 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 4: emotional Goon's pretty much like, you know, we've got a 404 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 4: job to do, so they've been So what do you 405 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: think the best tour game is? Let's put it down there, ladies. 406 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 3: You both know you has everyone been playing? 407 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 4: No, we haven't been playing. Where is the Cludo game board? 408 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 4: Where did we leave it? I think we left Wellington. 409 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 3: I have a confession. 410 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: It's my house, my notebooks. 411 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 4: A Cludo piece of paper came up when we were 412 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 4: all playing. 413 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: You were such a cheater Cludo cheater, No you were. 414 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: You said it was like tactical, but it was. 415 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: Both of us have been your roomy and you are 416 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: my favorite roomy. But what makes a good roomy. 417 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: Gosh, one that doesn't get up early, someone who I 418 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 4: don't know, I just like a kill roommates, someone that 419 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 4: doesn't make me do things that I don't want to do. 420 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: Just chill. You got to be in the same wavelength. Yeah, 421 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: you've got to be. 422 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: I'm just chill. 423 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: I'm just like lax. You know. 424 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: It's so good you can choose your roommates now like 425 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: back in the day they used to just pay you 426 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: with flex someone in your position or yes, not that 427 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: that's ever bad that it's just a bit ooks. It 428 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: is super impressive. You are a corporal in the army. 429 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: What skills do you think transfer to your rugby skill set? 430 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 4: I think being where I am right now, in the 431 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 4: circumstances that I'm in, I'd have to say the biggest 432 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 4: one is resilience, being able to bounce back when things 433 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 4: aren't going right and to just keep going because that's 434 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 4: like one of the best things in the army is 435 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 4: like we've got to bounce back, we've got to keep fighting, 436 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 4: we've got to we've got to be resilient. So I 437 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 4: probably say that's my biggest takeaway that I've used in sport, 438 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 4: and I'm still. 439 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: Using it right now. Oh thanks Cheeter, No, thanks for 440 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: having me. 441 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: Guys just want to acknowledge cheaterh for coming on this week. Obviously, 442 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: last week we talked a lot about DD's and how 443 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: hard that job is, and I just can't commend that 444 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: girl any higher. She's doing everything she can to be 445 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 2: in that team and right now that's not working out 446 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: for her. But she's still there every day, working her 447 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: ass off and doing everything she can. So everyone out there, 448 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: send Cheater a message and show. 449 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: Us some love. 450 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: We love your Cheater, so killing what you're doing. 451 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: You talk about team first, and she is one of 452 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: those people team first every week. But yeah, great to 453 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: have Cheaters Insights into life on tour this week. 454 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 3: Another week of BES on tour. 455 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: This week, Bez traveled to York to watch the Wallerooes 456 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: game and was lucky enough to be joined by mayas 457 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: Stewart's parents Melissa and Grant. 458 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 3: Welcome it to the beautiful York. 459 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 6: We are here just before the walleroos of v USA 460 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 6: game and I'm cheating it to the stewarts. 461 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: Interduce yourself, guys. 462 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 7: I'm Melissa, I'm Maya's mum. 463 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm great. 464 00:20:58,520 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 5: Here are you going? 465 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 6: Is also Mayo's father, I'm mays father? 466 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 5: Orhere's the girls go? I mean mister Mayer. 467 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: Mister Mayer is great. 468 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 6: Just a good chat to you guys. 469 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 3: So how has your time being in the. 470 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 6: UK so far? 471 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 7: Oh it's been amazing as Yes, something we've always wanted 472 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 7: to do and our girls brought us you to do. 473 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 3: It's cool and your favorite park right? 474 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 5: Well, we bumped into Manchester was Prideweek, which was going nuts, 475 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 5: and then we lobbed up in Edinburgh and it was 476 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 5: Fringe Festival talking about no cheap accommodation. 477 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not cheap, it's cashings on the old coin, 478 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 6: isn't it today? 479 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 3: Massive game? 480 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 6: How are you feeling in regards to how the girl's 481 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 6: going to go? And what do you hope to see 482 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 6: from Maya? 483 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 4: Oh? 484 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: Just hit that sideline. 485 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 7: Girl, hit that sideline and I'm I'm fully believing that 486 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 7: they're going to get it yep. 487 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, And Grant, how do you like What do you 488 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 6: say to Mayo before a game like this? 489 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 5: If I ever had to talk to I always tell 490 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 5: her to be quietly confident, believe in herself and back 491 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 5: yourelf pee patient, back yourself. 492 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that. 493 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: And unless finally, prediction on the. 494 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 7: Score, ooh, I'm going to say Wallaro's up by seven. 495 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 5: Twenty five, twelve, okay, yeah. 496 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 6: And one more final have you listened to Horse and 497 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 6: Bellows podcast and how do we feel a bit? 498 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: I love that those girls are the best. 499 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 7: I love those girls, mum hug them all the time. 500 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 5: Coach for twenty years, but I learned about. 501 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: Scrums perfect, Love you guys, Thank you so much. Moving 502 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: on to the preview of Wallaroos versus England plus the 503 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: game of the round. So we spoke about it in 504 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: a little bit at the start of the podcast. But yeah, Wallaroos, 505 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: they only need a bonus point to make it through 506 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: to the quarters, so four tries or lose by seven, 507 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: and statistically they are still on the better end to 508 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: make quarters with the points differential being one hundred and 509 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: thirty five, so USA essentially we need to put a 510 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: cricket score on some more and Australia would need to 511 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: lose by a lot to not make the quarters. How 512 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: do you see this game panning out this weekend? Horse? 513 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is tough, tough games. 514 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: So to put it into perspective, USA play somewhere four 515 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 2: hours before England play the Wallers, so the Walleries will 516 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: know the mathematical equation that they need. 517 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: That's a big word. 518 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: I never heard those words come out of your mouth before. 519 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's they wouldn't. They will know exactly what they need. 520 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: So it's going to be a bit of a mine games. Yeah, 521 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: mixed emotions Like me, if I'm playing, I want to know, 522 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: I want to know exactly what I need. You know, 523 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: best case, Nora, they win. Realistically, England are world number one, 524 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: Well number one. 525 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: I lost a game. I lost a game. 526 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 3: However, low, YadA, YadA, YadA, We're back your girls. 527 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: But let's just say we need to know exactly what 528 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 2: we've got and we have that opportunity. So let's say 529 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: that some will win by fifty and we need sorry 530 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: USA in fifty. That means that we only need a 531 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: bonus point win or we only need to lose by 532 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: x amount. It sounds like a losing mentality, but to 533 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 2: be honest, you just gotta do whatever you can to 534 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: get to quarters. 535 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 3: Once you're in quarters, it's a whole new ball game. 536 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: So I just think, find out exactly what you need 537 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: to get and once you find that out, you get 538 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 2: on that field and you do every single thing you 539 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: can to make sure that that happens. Because, to be 540 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: perfectly honest, they blew a little opportunity on the weekend. 541 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: I know that sounds harsh, but I am harsh. So 542 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 2: the blew an opportunity on the weekend. They will all 543 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: know that. They all devastated. I've spoken to a few 544 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 2: of them. They're absolutely gutted and they will do everything 545 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: they can. I'm sure of it, and they will make 546 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: these quarters. It's just they've made it a bit tricky 547 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: for themselves now. But England have secured their quarter final place, 548 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 2: so it could be an opportunity for them to capitalize 549 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 2: if they become complacent. I don't see that happening with 550 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: England at the moment. The pressure is on England. It's 551 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: a home World Cup. They need to disrupt their set peace. 552 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: That's where I see issue. I think that kitln Leni 553 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 2: did a really good job on the weekend. I think 554 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 2: that she's played probably the best best couple of Test 555 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: matches i've seen her play the last three one against 556 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: Wales was she was outstand everywhere, and then on the 557 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 2: weekend as well, just key, key time. 558 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: So I think that Leni will be super important in. 559 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 2: Their line out and then again I would go with 560 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: this six to two split on the bench to match 561 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 2: their forwards. Physically, we know that we've got the strip 562 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 2: power out wide, and the key thing for me is 563 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: they need to get the ball in mass Stewart's hands. 564 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what's happening at the moment, but that 565 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: girl is. 566 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: She's standing out there like a lamp post. 567 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I don't know. 568 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: I've been trying to like figure it out what it is, like, 569 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: work it out why she isn't getting her hands on 570 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: the ball, and it is like, like full credit to 571 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: Desi Miller. She is becoming a prolific try scorer on 572 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: that left edge and to have now Desi and Mayo 573 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: both sides that they can trust and go down. But 574 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: like I personally love attacking down the right edge, like 575 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: that is where I find like I love a short 576 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: side raid bit of Luke Keary if you watch NRL, 577 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: but I love going down the short side, and yeah, 578 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: I just I think g fred needs to get her 579 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: way back over onto that right side and link up 580 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: with her Maya Stewart, and I think Piper Duck as well. 581 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: I saw her make a few breaks against the USA 582 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: and then yeah, I think she slipped over on one 583 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: of them. But yeah, she has got a ball playing ability. 584 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: She was a back, she has played sevens, she's done 585 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: it for the Wartar, She's done done it before. So 586 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: I think those two and Freddie really need to try 587 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: and link up and get down Maya Stewart's edge because 588 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: she is a game breaker and she is someone you 589 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: look to when you want to score tries and she 590 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: could definitely do that. And then I think the other 591 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: area that Walleries really need to disrupt against England is 592 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: their breakdown. They have the quickest breakdown I've seen out 593 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: of all the games that I've watched at this World Cup, 594 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: and once they get a roll on, they are really 595 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 1: hard to stop in that area. So if we can 596 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: be disruptive, slow down that breakdown, make it really messy 597 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: for Mohunt to get the ball out. I think the defense, 598 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: as we said, has stood tall previously, and I think 599 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: if we can do that and really get our line 600 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: set after that slow breakdown, we can really stop them 601 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: that way because and then get the ball back because 602 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: what is England done defend? 603 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think as well, the other thing I 604 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 2: agree completely with d in attack is we need to 605 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: be more three dimensional. At the moment, I haven't seen 606 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: one tip or one pull warp ball from the from 607 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 2: the forward, So I just think that the ball playing 608 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: forwards need to get in there. They need to get 609 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: their hands on the balls, and they need to whoever's 610 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: playing ten or whoever's in that position at the back 611 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 2: of the pod needs to be screaming for a pull ball. 612 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: And even if they're not getting it, at least they're 613 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: making the defense question themselves because at the moment it 614 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 2: just looks so one dimensional. Like if you know, if 615 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 2: someone's at the top of the pod, they're carrying that's 616 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: that's pretty easy to defend. 617 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, actually, with England's lane speed as well, those 618 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: tip balls will be on. 619 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 6: Yeah. 620 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: Probably don't pull the ball out the back too early, 621 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: maybe on the second or third phase. Yeah, but yeah, 622 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: I completely agree with you there, and that's something England 623 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: haven't seen so yeah, and I know the Wallers can 624 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: do it. They've scored some amazing tries in general play. 625 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: So yeah, hopefully this weekend it all comes together for 626 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: the attack because yeah, as we mentioned, the defenses is 627 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: standing tall. So now the game of the round New 628 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: Zealand versus Ireland both two from two so far, so 629 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: whoever wins this game will top their pool. Island and 630 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: New Zealand have faced each other three times, with Ireland 631 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: winning two of the three, the first one being in 632 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: the twenty fourteen World Cup opening game and more recently 633 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: a historic upset in twenty twenty four World XV where 634 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: the Irish one twenty nine twenty seven. 635 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 2: This game is going to be juicy. This game will 636 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: be at eleven forty five Sunday, seventh of September live 637 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: on stand. Now, as we're talking about it, I just 638 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: want to go back to Poorsial Woman. 639 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 3: Week Cliff, like freak freak. 640 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: You talk about players that you know transcend their time. 641 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: Poorsial Woman Weekcliffe is an absolute freak. She is probably 642 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: the goat. She has done it all you can do. 643 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: She's in fifteen's and in seven and she just keeps going. 644 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: She actually retired before this World Cup and then thought 645 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: maybe not and came back to have one more crack 646 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: and knowing Porsche like she just wants to play footy. 647 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 3: She's just out there having a good time. 648 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: And I think that it's pretty obvious to see when 649 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: they've got girls like Caitlin macacolo playing behind Porsche, how 650 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: good of a player Porsche is, because you know, you're 651 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: benching players like Lettinga and Sorrens and McGee for Porsche 652 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: women Wickliffe and rightly so, rightly so she just is 653 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: freak So shout out to you, Porsche, well done, keep going, 654 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: old girl. But yeah, amazing achievement. Fifty fifty games for 655 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: the Black Ferns, more than any player ever, So amazing achievement. 656 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: I'm on zero, you know, but you're on the points. 657 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: You've kicked some conversions six points. 658 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: It's better than that, it's better than none. 659 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, that game will be at eleven forty five 660 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 1: pm Sunday, the seventh of September, live on stan and 661 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: that will be the game of the round. I think 662 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of history between those two teams. They've 663 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: both got like Black fans are really skillful and have 664 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: really fast finishes. And then Islander that technical, really technical 665 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: team with a really strong kicking game. The ten done 666 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: O'Brien has probably one of the best boots in world 667 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: rugby right now. So yeah, make sure you catch that game. 668 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 2: Can't wait for Week three of the Rugby World Cup 669 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: all game time as we post it on socials. Thank 670 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: you so much for listening. Make sure you tune into 671 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: the Walleries game and we'll see you next week. 672 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: Bye. 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