WEBVTT - Maya Weiss & Jasey Fox - Australian Idol - Contestants

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<v Speaker 1>of this show as I possibly can. On today's episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a full debrief with the eliminated contestants from

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<v Speaker 1>Australian Idol twenty twenty three. We had our top twelve

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<v Speaker 1>performers cut down to ten this week, and I for

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<v Speaker 1>one was quite shocked with some very talented singers getting

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<v Speaker 1>sent home. Maya and jac brought a lot to the

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<v Speaker 1>Channel seven competition and I think, if anything, we now

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<v Speaker 1>know how tough the twenty twenty three rebooted Australian Idol

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<v Speaker 1>is going to get. My first guest, Maya is the

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<v Speaker 1>oldest contestant this year at twenty eight years of age.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that she always saw herself going on the

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<v Speaker 1>Idol stage and never back down from her dreams. We

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<v Speaker 1>will talk judges comments, being the Mamma Bear amongst a

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<v Speaker 1>very young Top twelve, how she took the elimination and

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<v Speaker 1>what is next. Then twenty five year old jac Fox

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<v Speaker 1>will join me to unpack his time on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's no secret that he was my favorite, so you

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<v Speaker 1>may notice a lot of information coming from me. Jayce

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<v Speaker 1>has a truckload of talent and an infectious passion for

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<v Speaker 1>the entertainment industry. And today we will discuss taking rejection,

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<v Speaker 1>not giving up, and we'll also talk about Australian Idol

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<v Speaker 1>and why it isn't just about the voice. Plus we

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<v Speaker 1>will get some exclusives on the new series, including some

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes secrets which I'm sure you will love. However,

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<v Speaker 1>let's bring Maya into the podcast first and stick around

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<v Speaker 1>for Jayce as he'll be coming up straight after. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you feeling off the back of that last night's elimination?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah?

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<v Speaker 3>God, you know, I woke up actually last night I

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<v Speaker 3>was a little bit maybe a bit embarrassed, a bit sad.

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<v Speaker 2>The shock was strong.

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<v Speaker 3>Woke up this morning to an amazing surprise, which was

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<v Speaker 3>hundreds of people being like, you were robbed, this is

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<v Speaker 3>really do we love you?

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell would have voted more? All this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that I just did not expect.

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<v Speaker 1>So what a time to be alive, What a time

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<v Speaker 1>to get yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 3>What a time to go off the show too, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I would have if I had gone

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<v Speaker 3>on longer, would have had this response.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's been amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is a part of your story. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing I always say. You've got to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the ground and then move with the flow. And

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<v Speaker 1>being one of the first two out of the top

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<v Speaker 1>twelve may look a certain way at the time, but

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<v Speaker 1>then you make that work in a way.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask you though, Live TV was

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<v Speaker 1>back last night and it must have been quite exciting

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<v Speaker 1>to be a part of it. How was the experience

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<v Speaker 1>last night?

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<v Speaker 2>It was intense.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there was a lot of energies going around,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people on nervous streaks. But yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>was great to see Megan perform. It was great to

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<v Speaker 3>get a group performance before we left as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Loved that.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I think that's the part that I'm most

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<v Speaker 3>sad to leave is the live shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Once the lights came down, you know, what was the

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<v Speaker 1>aftermath like for you? I mean, where did you go

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<v Speaker 1>after the show? And where was your head at?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt a little bit like I was in a dream,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because I guess you don't really know how

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<v Speaker 3>to expect to leave. I knew in my gut the

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<v Speaker 3>whole day that I was going to be in the

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<v Speaker 3>bottom four. And I feel bad saying that because we

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<v Speaker 3>should all try to be positive, but I knew it.

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<v Speaker 3>I could just sense it, so I was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>I was just kind of expecting it. I was walking

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<v Speaker 3>around as soon as the lights went down and just

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<v Speaker 3>saying my goodbyes mentally to the studio that i'd been

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<v Speaker 3>in for the last two months, basically living next door

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<v Speaker 3>in the hotel. And I actually, actually the more it

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<v Speaker 3>settles in, I'm not as sad as I thought i'd

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<v Speaker 3>be last night. Like last night, I was thinking, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be so embarrassed. I'm going to wake

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<v Speaker 3>up in the morning. I'm going to feel like a failure.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to, you know, think that all these people

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<v Speaker 3>see me like a failure. But just waking up to

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<v Speaker 3>so much positive energy and so many people, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>game changer. And I think that the other contestants are phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 3>Jac and I are definitely different performers and different people

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<v Speaker 3>in a way, We're a bit more experienced, So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not upset to leave as like a representation of my

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<v Speaker 3>career anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not feeling that like I was last night.

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<v Speaker 1>You nailed these performances, Like you know, I'm looking back.

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<v Speaker 1>I was rewatching them this morning. I went back and

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<v Speaker 1>I watched everything that you contributed vocally to this series,

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<v Speaker 1>and you are such a talented woman.

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<v Speaker 3>I really appreciate that because for me, performing is my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite and I don't even think this show I really

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<v Speaker 3>got to give my strongest performance yet. So I just

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<v Speaker 3>want to try to make as much content as I

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<v Speaker 3>can to show people now with my own platform, what

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<v Speaker 3>I can do. But I hope people come to my

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<v Speaker 3>gigs because like live, I really yeah, I really really

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<v Speaker 3>love just connecting with people in a live format.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that maybe the voters this year might

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit too enamored with well, this person's fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Do you think maybe there's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of something extra I guess to support because wow, they're

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<v Speaker 1>younger contestants.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I definitely do.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why I've been saying all morning with jac

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<v Speaker 3>there's no possible way to compare me to someone like

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<v Speaker 3>Angelina or Amali or Phoebe. We are so different, we

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<v Speaker 3>come from completely different levels of expertise.

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like they deserve and need to be there

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<v Speaker 3>in a way, even maybe more than me from now on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is a good way for you to

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<v Speaker 1>look at this, because you know, also, so we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had Australia really controlling the vote on a reality show

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<v Speaker 1>for quite a while, so we don't really know who

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<v Speaker 1>picks up the phone anymore. And maybe this is telling

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<v Speaker 1>as to the type of people who are voting. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>younger people are voting, and maybe younger people are voting

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<v Speaker 1>for people that they can see more in themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was looking around in the crowd, and I've been

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<v Speaker 3>looking online and it is I think just because of

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<v Speaker 3>the age limit as well, and how jac he's twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five and he was the second oldest to me, and

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<v Speaker 3>then everyone else is below twenty four. So I definitely

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<v Speaker 3>think the people watching are young. And I think when

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<v Speaker 3>you're a young kid. I remember watching Idol, I did

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<v Speaker 3>not connect at all with the people who were above

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five because I was like thirteen and just saw

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<v Speaker 3>them as adults. And I think now that they have phones,

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<v Speaker 3>they're sitting there and they're texting every single second, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just my fans are more people who don't have

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<v Speaker 3>that need inside of them. They just look at me

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<v Speaker 3>and they think, oh, she's a great singer.

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<v Speaker 4>We like her.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not going to sit there day texting over and

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<v Speaker 3>over again. We might just give her a follow on

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<v Speaker 3>the internet and follow her career. It's just a different thing.

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<v Speaker 1>With you know, so many of those young contestants. Was

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<v Speaker 1>it hard not to mother them a little bit? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on?

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<v Speaker 3>I was mummy Maya. It wasn't even if from the

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<v Speaker 3>minute I got there, I was designated mama. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>maybe where you know, if I was a competitive person

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<v Speaker 3>at all, which I'm not, I would have maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 3>no way, but just maybe taking more time to sleep

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<v Speaker 3>and not have been there as much for some of

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<v Speaker 3>the people that I had.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the end of the day, I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>changed that even if I tried.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm a person who just loves people and

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<v Speaker 3>loves especially musicians, and I would give everything over and

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<v Speaker 3>over again to go like I would go out again

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<v Speaker 3>at this time, just to have helped and connected with

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<v Speaker 3>the other contestants in the way that I did. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think that will that they'll remember that, and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>remember that coming out of this experience, and all the

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<v Speaker 3>producers were saying, you know, like how easy and I

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<v Speaker 3>was to work with and how sad they were to

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<v Speaker 3>see me leave, And I just don't think they'll forget that,

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<v Speaker 3>or I'll forget that. So I'm happy that I just

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<v Speaker 3>at least finished it in such a positive way.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think this is a good question to ask you,

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<v Speaker 1>but as far as the judging goes, who do you

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<v Speaker 1>think actually gives the best advice for the competition?

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I personally think that people put a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>hate on Kyle, but I think he's got a really

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<v Speaker 3>semi honest perception of people and music, and especially in

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<v Speaker 3>his face. You know, I think it's really hard on

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<v Speaker 3>this show because you want to encourage everyone, and everyone

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<v Speaker 3>deserves the chance to be told they're great. But there

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<v Speaker 3>is times when I think some people are told they're great,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're actually just in my opinion, it wasn't their

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<v Speaker 3>best performance. And I think the show's had a fair

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<v Speaker 3>bit of that lately. And I think that's where I've

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<v Speaker 3>appreciated the judges who have kind of come out and said, nah,

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't doing it for me, because I think even if

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<v Speaker 3>you're young, you always need to know when you're shit.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that was the reason I came on

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<v Speaker 3>the show, was to grow for myself in a better way,

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<v Speaker 3>and I appreciated every bit of constructive criticism that I

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<v Speaker 3>got from each judge.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it's to Kyle's defense, and I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching it with friends who were like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the devil or why did he say that? Oh? No,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I was like, you know what, in

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<v Speaker 1>the real world, people are going to say these things

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<v Speaker 1>to these people online, no matter how old they are.

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<v Speaker 1>How you know, how experienced they are, so I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, preparing the harsh realities is an important part

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<v Speaker 1>of the competition, But do you think he's doing that

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<v Speaker 1>to prepare you or do you think he's looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a TV moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a bit of both.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's definitely a need to be like a

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<v Speaker 3>harsh judge. I think there was times, not necessarily with

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<v Speaker 3>my performance, but others where he said things that I

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<v Speaker 3>don't feel we're right for the performance.

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<v Speaker 2>They felt a bit like he was just feeling a quota.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think I think their needs to be

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<v Speaker 3>some level of honesty within the judges, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>Harry's trying to do that too a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 3>think sometimes he's harsh, like especially with the younger people

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<v Speaker 3>like Bobby for example. I don't know if you saw,

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<v Speaker 3>but he I think gave so much growth and so

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<v Speaker 3>much energy, and all they did was tell him off

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<v Speaker 3>for not having his brother there, which wasn't his fault,

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that, Like especially with me with the song.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people know we don't necessarily and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not supposed to say this, but we don't always get

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<v Speaker 3>control with what we do. And I would have loved

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<v Speaker 3>if I had had a bit more feedback on my

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<v Speaker 3>vocal ability or my performance and less to do with

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<v Speaker 3>that being a shit song.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is a f I think to you to say, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a fair comment.

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<v Speaker 3>Feed Yeah, because I was just trying to do I

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<v Speaker 3>was trying to make everyone's life easier and not be

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<v Speaker 3>arguing for something better for me. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>where as artists on these shows, you know, you can

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<v Speaker 3>be seen as such a diva or you can be

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<v Speaker 3>seen as an argumentative performer, but at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day day, if you don't fight for who you

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<v Speaker 3>are as an artist, you can end up being in

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<v Speaker 3>my position where you're kicked off for not hitting people

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<v Speaker 3>with the right emotion or you're told that you look

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<v Speaker 3>like bad because you're wearing an outfit.

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<v Speaker 2>That you didn't get to choose to wear.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just think tips for anyone who ever wants

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<v Speaker 3>to go into these shows or into the industry is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, stand your ground in a positive way.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there's also time constraints, you know, as to

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<v Speaker 1>what you feel you can say, and if you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a time constraint on what you can get across, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a dangerous place to be. And because if you do

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<v Speaker 1>sound like you give a right of reply, which you

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<v Speaker 1>have a right of reply of what these people are saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes people will say she's not grateful, or why did

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<v Speaker 1>she clap back, you know, all of those sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of factors there. But I do think

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<v Speaker 1>out of all the contestants I saw, you had a

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<v Speaker 1>right of reply, which I don't think because seeing you

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<v Speaker 1>as a person would have landed badly. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>would have been able to ask a question and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>push them to a critique on your voice or something

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to help you long might have been okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, And that's where I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Really really learnt from this, and I think I definitely

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<v Speaker 3>think that that. I. Yeah, it's just so hard to

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<v Speaker 3>know the line, especially as a as a female, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>and it sounds a bit bad to say, but it

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<v Speaker 3>is hard because I think people like Sasha and I

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<v Speaker 3>were speaking about it yesterday and he really had to

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<v Speaker 3>fight for some arrangement stuff, and same with Anya, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I did as much. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>they were lucky because they're arrangements. They helped them feel

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<v Speaker 3>more centered in the song and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't want to say. I mean, I know this happens

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit, especially in the industry. You're like, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a woman and I speak out like this, then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a bitch. Like I'm a gay man if I

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<v Speaker 1>say a thing, Oh, he's always a bitchy gay you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. And then you're so not that,

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<v Speaker 1>You're so not that at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's the thing I think.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's funny you say you were a gay

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<v Speaker 3>man because you would feel that, and I feel that

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes it's really hard because we get sometimes boxed a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, and if we come out and say things

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<v Speaker 3>that might be yeah, yeah, a truthful, people kind of

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes think it's a bit maybe touch aggressive. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>where you know, the younger people, it's it's easier for

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<v Speaker 3>them because they they're just kind of very you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you just give them a role and they'll just do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas with people in my position with performing, I know

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<v Speaker 3>jac as well. He had a lot of opinions on

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<v Speaker 3>how he wanted to do his performance. And it can

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<v Speaker 3>be seen as a good thing, it can be seen

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<v Speaker 3>as a bad thing. And if I were to do

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<v Speaker 3>it again, the only thing that I would have changed

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<v Speaker 3>is just standing my ground with the music, because that,

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<v Speaker 3>to me is very important in my in the way

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<v Speaker 3>I'm perceived as an artist. But I can now, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>go and do any cover I want online. So at

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<v Speaker 3>least I, you know, gave because I do want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Go you'll have at that point. And you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>remember there's been people that have been on who didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even make it to the top twenty four, who've had

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<v Speaker 1>number ones on the dance on the Dance charts, So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is just a really exciting chapter for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And as Amy Shark said last night, it might just

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<v Speaker 1>be a shitty day, but I honestly believe it. I

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<v Speaker 1>can hear it in the way that you're talking today.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see it in the music that I really

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<v Speaker 1>listened to this morning. And you have a real place

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<v Speaker 1>in the music industry. And I just think you pick

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<v Speaker 1>this up and you roll with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank you, because it's tad. You know, you're get

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<v Speaker 3>in your own head. But I really think if I

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<v Speaker 3>just keep sharing and trying to connect with people and

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<v Speaker 3>releasing fresh and new content, that I think all I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted out of the show was to reach more people

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<v Speaker 3>and to get growth, and I feel I have like

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<v Speaker 3>you've done it definitely grown so much, and I'm so

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<v Speaker 3>proud of everyone in it, and I can't I'm excited

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<v Speaker 3>for what happens with all of us too, Like we're

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<v Speaker 3>all boosting each other in ways I can't even begin

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<v Speaker 3>to explain. So I know I'm going to be reading

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<v Speaker 3>for everyone and they're going to be rooting for me too,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's an amazing feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like you know? Because I love you

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about your instincts before, do you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>when we ask you about your instincts on who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to win this, do you feel like you know?

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<v Speaker 2>I do, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I've definitely been surprised a lot, but I also know

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<v Speaker 3>in my gut just what works for these types of environments,

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I just can tell from how things have

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<v Speaker 3>gone already. My gut's kind of in right. But I

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<v Speaker 3>also am so open to being shocked. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's where it is up to just who's doing well

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<v Speaker 3>with the public and who's surviving the stress and just

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<v Speaker 3>kicking on. But either way, anyone from now on has

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<v Speaker 3>the chance to take their own career in their own hands,

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<v Speaker 3>with or without the show, can you give us the name? Look,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I always always thought that Royson was going

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<v Speaker 3>to do well, just because he's such a little gem

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<v Speaker 3>and he's got, you know, to me, such a great message.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do not know. I have no idea. I

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<v Speaker 3>love them all. I just have a feeling that he'll

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<v Speaker 3>maybe be in the top three.

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<v Speaker 1>And something I ask everyone who joins the podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>what's something from behind the scenes. You know, we finished

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast like this every time. What's something that was

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<v Speaker 1>something that happened to you while making this show, something

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<v Speaker 1>that the audiences won't say.

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<v Speaker 3>I Harry spoke to everyone who came off the show,

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<v Speaker 3>but the way he spoke to us was so surprising

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<v Speaker 3>and real, and I appreciated that, Like it's not easy

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<v Speaker 3>to make time for people when you're at a level

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<v Speaker 3>like that in a celebrity way. And I was, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I was really loving that side of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if I met him in real life, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>just be like, I know, your friends with Sandra Bullet,

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<v Speaker 1>can we call her on the phone. Let's just sit

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<v Speaker 1>around and talk to Sandy and see what she has

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<v Speaker 1>to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's where I was a bit surprised that he

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<v Speaker 3>was the one out of all of them. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Kyl has been amazing to me from the start. He's

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<v Speaker 3>actually given me proper like hugs and real genuine off

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<v Speaker 3>camera chats. But I didn't expect Harry to voluntarily choose

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to every contestant who came off the show.

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<v Speaker 3>So a little yeah back thing on him would just

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<v Speaker 3>be that that was amazing that he took the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I love chatting with you in your audience. It'll be

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<v Speaker 1>so exciting to see where you go. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>dance chat so I think is a really good place

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<v Speaker 1>for you to look at.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, thank you, and yeah, I hope we get to

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<v Speaker 2>chatt again soon.

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<v Speaker 1>A great chat with Maya and a good warm up

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<v Speaker 1>for things to come with my next guest, let's bring

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<v Speaker 1>jac into the podcast. I'm sure you'll get some really

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<v Speaker 1>fun exclusives and I hope you really enjoy this chat. Hi, Jacey, how.

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<v Speaker 4>I I'm good man. I feel very grateful, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>very peaceful and happy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to start this off by saying I

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<v Speaker 1>feel terrible because I've had fans from Australian Idol hitting

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<v Speaker 1>up overnight saying that I jinxed you because I came

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<v Speaker 1>out and championed for you hard yesterday and then you

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<v Speaker 1>went home. And I mean, I don't think I've got

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<v Speaker 1>that much power in the universe, but I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to apologize just in case I do.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Nah, I don't reckon you. Jinks me. I think

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<v Speaker 4>you're doing me a massive favor that I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>run with and I love you for it. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's really really sweet of you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what a ride this Australian Idol journey has

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<v Speaker 1>been for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's been It's been wild, you know. Like I

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<v Speaker 4>it was really important to me that I stayed true

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<v Speaker 4>to myself and my artistry and everything like that and

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<v Speaker 4>who I want to be and how I want to

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<v Speaker 4>you know, move around in the world. And at the

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<v Speaker 4>beginning of the experience, I wasn't doing that, but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm happy to say that I eventually pulled my

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<v Speaker 4>head in and even though I went out last night,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really happy that I stayed true to myself.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what was your relationship with the first incarnation

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<v Speaker 1>of this series and how old were you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not too sure how old I was, but I

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<v Speaker 4>remember it really vividly. I remember a big brother as well,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, very vividly, very vividly, and yeah with idle,

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<v Speaker 4>like I really really remember all of it. I remember

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<v Speaker 4>watching Guys music video when it came out, too, like,

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<v Speaker 4>so it was a big thing for my family. Like

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<v Speaker 4>my family are not not like professional musicians or anything,

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<v Speaker 4>but we're very musical and we'd all really get behind

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<v Speaker 4>Australian idol. So it was it was actually really weird

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<v Speaker 4>that it just came about for me in life, just

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<v Speaker 4>in time, you know. But I'll never forget Ricky Lee

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<v Speaker 4>getting it eliminated.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever, it's the footnote for you to understand that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't necessarily mean you need to win one of

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<v Speaker 1>these shows, I mean Rigulae and many others. And I

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<v Speaker 1>will get into this a little bit in a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't necessarily need to win to become a

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<v Speaker 1>success in this country on this show.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah. I also, like, you know, I'm twenty six,

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<v Speaker 4>which is you know, still young, but like I've got

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<v Speaker 4>a lot to learn and I've got things to do,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm under no illusions about how life works. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>there are setbacks that happen, there are things that you

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<v Speaker 4>envision going a certain way and then they don't, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you grow from it. That's always been like my

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<v Speaker 4>comic debt in life is that cool things happen and

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<v Speaker 4>then there's like a curve ball at the end of it,

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<v Speaker 4>but I end up growing from it. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like Maya is such an amazing talent, and her and

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<v Speaker 4>I have worked so hard to like shape ourselves as artists,

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<v Speaker 4>like including what we wear, what we look like, what

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<v Speaker 4>we seeing, what we right because we're both writers as well.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I was never under an illusion that I

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<v Speaker 4>would win the show or anything like that, but I

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<v Speaker 4>certainly am determined to use the platform to the utmost

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<v Speaker 4>end of.

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<v Speaker 1>My Well, that's why the message last night, I was

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<v Speaker 1>like I sent you the message on Instagram. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>go to bed and enjoy talking to the media today,

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<v Speaker 1>Like get up tomorrow and just enjoy this and like people,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the podcast. So people can't see you look

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<v Speaker 1>like you went to bed last night had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of sleep, because you're looking phenomenal. So I think you

0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:43.959
<v Speaker 1>know already putting you in good stead. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you've been out commiserating yourself and then got up and

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<v Speaker 1>spoke to the media, it might have been a waste

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<v Speaker 1>of time, you know, totally, you're fresh and you're ready

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to people. And I might be wrong by

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<v Speaker 1>saying this, but I kind of think with Idle, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got a long history with contestants, you know, Courtney

0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:00.280
<v Speaker 1>act Rob Mills, Ricky Lee, you know, getting justice much

0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:04.400
<v Speaker 1>work because they have a TV personality alongside their incredible voices.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, that's where I think idol can work

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<v Speaker 1>really well. And for someone like you who has the

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<v Speaker 1>personality along with a voice, there's going to be more

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities for you.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember, like at the time that Idle was one

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<v Speaker 4>of the one of kind of the only ways that

0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:21.720
<v Speaker 4>you could get into the industry, whereas now, like things

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<v Speaker 4>are just so different. You honestly, any one of us,

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<v Speaker 4>Mayra and I could upload a TikTok video tonight and

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<v Speaker 4>blow up. Anything can kind of happen these days, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's sort of just about like using whatever you can

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<v Speaker 4>and like going with the flow of things and just

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<v Speaker 4>allowing things to be the way that they are.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to jump in there because I think it's

0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:41.720
<v Speaker 1>a really good point that you make. I was really

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<v Speaker 1>concerned with, you know, idle coming back. I'm a diehard fan,

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<v Speaker 1>never missed an episode f y, but I was concerned

0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:49.960
<v Speaker 1>with it coming back because of the platforms that we

0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:52.000
<v Speaker 1>have these days. I mean, why would you go on

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<v Speaker 1>a show when you've got these high volume audiences where

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<v Speaker 1>you can control your content, you can control your narrative.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's because for me, breaking the glass ceiling or

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<v Speaker 4>whatever you want to call it, like just just that

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of extra push that I needed I got

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<v Speaker 4>from the show, and I wasn't able to acquire it

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<v Speaker 4>no matter how hard I tried. For years, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it was very difficult for me to book gigs. The

0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:19.240
<v Speaker 4>industry can be very clique and difficult to get into,

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:22.359
<v Speaker 4>especially in the queer scene. Even though we're very inclusive,

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<v Speaker 4>it is still difficult to find your way. And now

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sort of like cool, like this is all I wanted.

0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:32.200
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to get my artistry out there and meet

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<v Speaker 4>some cool people and have a lot of fun. And

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<v Speaker 4>to me, what happens after the show has always been

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<v Speaker 4>more important than what happens on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And why this singing show, because why not one of

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<v Speaker 1>the other competition based reality shows like The Voice You

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<v Speaker 1>Know or X Factor or something else that may have

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<v Speaker 1>come along before. Was it something specific about this show?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it your family's relationship with it?

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<v Speaker 4>No, it was actually the legacy of nistry that was

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<v Speaker 4>the most attractive thing to me. I got to decide

0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:01.080
<v Speaker 4>what color I dyed my hair, I got to decide

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:03.200
<v Speaker 4>what I was wearing and consult and talk with the

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:06.159
<v Speaker 4>stylist and talk with creative like. I was able to

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<v Speaker 4>map out my routines and perform them exactly how I

0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:10.880
<v Speaker 4>wanted to. I got to pick the songs that I

0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.320
<v Speaker 4>really wanted to do. And the other shows. I'm not

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:15.720
<v Speaker 4>sure if it's true or not, but you know, you

0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 4>hear that maybe that's not the case. But I know

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:21.760
<v Speaker 4>with Idle that they care a lot about the artistry

0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:26.120
<v Speaker 4>and the person themselves having autonomy within a situation where

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:29.000
<v Speaker 4>there's not a whole bunch of autonomy allowed because it

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:30.480
<v Speaker 4>is reality TV at the end of the day, and

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:32.280
<v Speaker 4>we do have a TV show to make. For me,

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<v Speaker 4>it was like, Okay, I need to do this because

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<v Speaker 4>I want to have some sort of control. I can't.

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 4>I would never relinquish entire creative control.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's really smart, and I think that the

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.000
<v Speaker 1>show does feel that way, you know, for me personally,

0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the reason why I gravitated towards you as much as

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I did was I could see that control. I could

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<v Speaker 1>see your input. I could see how much work you're

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:55.600
<v Speaker 1>putting into everything that was happening, because it came across

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.600
<v Speaker 1>so effortless on stage, and that doesn't happen without doing

0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of preparation and having the skill set behind it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's really sweet of you to say, thank you. This

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 4>is all I care about, you know, I said that

0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:08.399
<v Speaker 4>last night. It's the only thing that It's all I

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:10.919
<v Speaker 4>think about, Like I when I work out, like I'm

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:14.120
<v Speaker 4>doing vocal warm ups on the treadmill, like because Beyonce

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:17.919
<v Speaker 4>does that. Like I'm constantly thinking about like what different

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 4>looks me and my dances can wear when we do gigs.

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:22.159
<v Speaker 4>Like this is the only thing that matters to me,

0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 4>And like, I'm happy that I was able to. I

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 4>didn't expect them to show it on the show, that

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:29.919
<v Speaker 4>I was writing things down and preparing them. That was

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 4>not for show. That was meant to be that's who

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 4>you were me that was well, yeah, it was meant

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:37.359
<v Speaker 4>to be me showing the camera operators where I'll be

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:40.160
<v Speaker 4>just so I was just so they weren't freaking out,

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 4>you know. So I'm actually really grateful that the show

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 4>showcased me in that way and showed everyone because I've

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 4>gotten a lot of really positive feedback from just from

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 4>just from the way that I work, which is it's

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.160
<v Speaker 4>been amazing, Like I was not expecting that at all.

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I think anyone watching this show will see that. I

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 1>think anyone in the industry will see that. They will

0:24:57.320 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 1>know that you've got that work ethic that's behind you,

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.119
<v Speaker 1>you know. Interestingly enough, I mean, you opened the show

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:05.120
<v Speaker 1>with an amazing You opened the top twelve and it

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>was just phenomenal. Like I was there live and I

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 1>saw it. I watched the audience reaction to it. But afterwards,

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I was watching you in between as everything went on,

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and I worried whether or not you were getting into

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:19.200
<v Speaker 1>your head a little bit as the show continued to evolve.

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Was it just that the energy level for you you

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:23.199
<v Speaker 1>were like, I've done it now, I can relax. Or

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:25.639
<v Speaker 1>what was going through your mind through the next hour

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:26.639
<v Speaker 1>of other people singing?

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<v Speaker 4>Two things? The first one is that I'm like pretty

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:33.680
<v Speaker 4>much constantly anxious here nah, yeah, they which was clearly

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 4>evident in my audition. This is just what my life

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:38.959
<v Speaker 4>is like. So quite often I'm a Gemini. I can

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:42.120
<v Speaker 4>turn it on and then, and it's usually I'm only

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 4>able to turn it on when I'm on stage, and

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 4>then the second that I'm out of character, I guess

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.400
<v Speaker 4>you could say, the facade kind of drops and I'm

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:51.119
<v Speaker 4>back into my head a little bit, which is, by

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 4>the way, something I'm working on. The other reason is,

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:58.959
<v Speaker 4>you know, I was starting to become increasingly aware that

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<v Speaker 4>what I was doing was different to everyone else, and

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't sure if that was a good thing anymore.

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 4>I think at one point it may have been a

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:08.680
<v Speaker 4>good thing, whereas the other night, like, I was really

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:11.439
<v Speaker 4>happy with how I did, and I loved hearing for you.

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I was happy for you. I was proud of you,

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, and though I think, you know, when you

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.919
<v Speaker 1>finished performing, I could see you were proud of yourself,

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.159
<v Speaker 1>which I love seeing in people that work in the industry.

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I love when you can see that vibe coming off them.

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 1>But I just thought, yeah, I wondered what was going on,

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and I thought maybe because you're so self sufficient and

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:30.160
<v Speaker 1>some of the others being a little bit younger, meant

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:32.360
<v Speaker 1>that they were getting a little bit of extra Well,

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't even want to go down that path, not

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 1>that not that they were getting a little bit of

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:37.400
<v Speaker 1>extra I know what you're saying.

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 4>I know what you're saying. It happens how it happens,

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 4>and you know, like like I was saying last night

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 4>as well, Mayra and I are the eldest in the group,

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 4>and I think that, you know, there was less for

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 4>us to like we we've worked with stylists before, we

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.719
<v Speaker 4>know how to do staging, all of that sort of stuff,

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 4>and like the best part about the show is watching

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 4>somebody grow as artists throughout it, and it's just not

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:05.680
<v Speaker 4>as exciting to watch when the growth isn't taking place

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 4>as much. Although I have grown exponentially like throughout this experience,

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 4>I just think that there was others who landed more

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:18.439
<v Speaker 4>squarely in an Australian Idol setting than I did. I

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 4>don't know if I was exactly the right fit for

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.120
<v Speaker 4>the show, or at least I wouldn't be the right

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:26.160
<v Speaker 4>fit moving forward, but I.

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Mean that's what I were doing, they were creating. I

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>think they did a very good job, the judges of

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>creating a diversity in you know, You've definitely fitted into this.

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 1>You offered a piece of the puzzle that needed to

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:38.400
<v Speaker 1>be there. I guess where I might have been coming

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 1>from was after you performed, because you're so self sufficient,

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe they just left you there where. If

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>it was me, I would have been fluffing your feathers

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>for the next hour and just you know, making sure

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>you felt that how well you had done. And that

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>was the reason why I was yelling out your name

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>by the way throughout the rest of the episode, you know,

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:56.360
<v Speaker 1>was because I felt like you needed to be reminded

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 1>of how good that performance was and how many people

0:27:59.040 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>you represented.

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much, you know, like that's, oh, that's

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:04.879
<v Speaker 4>like amazing to hear you say. That's really really sweet

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 4>of you. You know, when I when I found out

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 4>I was going first, I think I kind of realized

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 4>what was going to happen, But I don't think that

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:11.160
<v Speaker 4>at all.

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, they asked you to open the show

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:15.679
<v Speaker 1>because it was phenomenal. Who else could have opened the

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>show with those other performances wouldn't have worked as well

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.919
<v Speaker 1>as they had without you warming up them that hard,

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>like it was a bang.

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 4>I think what's been wild is like a lot of

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 4>today and last night, I've been getting a lot of

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:32.119
<v Speaker 4>messages people saying in regards to Maya and I that

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 4>they didn't vote for us because they thought we would

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 4>just get through, you know like that. That's been such

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 4>a funny sentiments, and it's still really sweet to hear,

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 4>to be honest, because I'm like, oh, that's that's really

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 4>sweet that people thought it was like a sure thing.

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 4>But you know, that's just how That's how the kookie crumbles. Yeah,

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 4>it's just how. It's just how it happens. I'm really

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 4>happy with how I did it, and Waking Up in

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 4>Vegas is my favorite song in the world, so I

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 4>was really happy to go out on that as well.

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>The song choices were brilliant, Like I mean, you could

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>definitely not be you know, be going back and you

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 1>know Sunday in quarterbacking your song choices because they were

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>all amazing. Like I guess, you know, because we're on

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>such a limited time to talk. The other thing I

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask you about was the judges. I mean,

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 1>this year, they've got their work cut out for them,

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 1>and obviously people have their favorites. You know, what has

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>your journey been like with Kyle, Meghan, Amy and Harry.

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>You know a lot of people talking about the controversial,

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 1>controversial comments that Kyle might make, which I think is

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>preparing people for an industry. So I see that that

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>sort of has a place. But how did it go

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>for you?

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I totally agree with you. I think that

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, Kyle's a Gemini. I'm a Gemini, so I

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 4>kind of understand him even though we're very different. And

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 4>I actually feel he understands me even though we're very

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 4>different too. And I think that having a very Australian

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 4>point of view is important on the panel because I

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 4>think he does represent a lot of Australia's views. However

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 4>we want to take that. I think having Meghan on

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 4>the show is unbelievable given her like notoriety, Like holy moly, yeah,

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 4>Amy Shark, It's really really brilliant to have her there

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 4>because she is somebody that's had said backs and she

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 4>was talking about it last night. You know, that's really

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 4>amazing to see somebody actually find success after a period

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 4>of time where people so you cannot find success because

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 4>I don't think there's such a thing. And then Harry

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 4>would definitely be my favorite obviously I grew up as

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 4>a dancer, and he reminds me of all of my

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:25.959
<v Speaker 4>ballet teachers. He's very direct and honest and critical, and

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 4>I like that. I'm not the kind of person that

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 4>needs other people to tell me. I'm fierce, like I

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 4>want people to tell me, people who know what they're

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 4>talking about, to tell me how to improve and give

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 4>me honest, authentic feedback. That's what That's what I want,

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 4>and that's what I got from him, and I'm very

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 4>grateful for it.

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that you are bright, I think that

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>you are charismatic. I think you're super talented. You can dance,

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>you can sing. This has just been a sensational chapter

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I believe for you that won't define you, but will

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<v Speaker 1>propel you to the next level, which I think is important.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I think is important. Anyway, I could literally if

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<v Speaker 1>you ever filled down calm because I'm here to pumputize.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone who joins the podcast gets asked this question, what

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<v Speaker 1>is something from behind the scenes, something that we may

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<v Speaker 1>not have seen, something that happened for you and your

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<v Speaker 1>journey on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>That Okay, so I got to choose the color of

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<v Speaker 4>hair that I wanted to go. However, the reference photo

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<v Speaker 4>that we used from when we went to the salon

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<v Speaker 4>had been like edited, so it was more orange. The

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<v Speaker 4>stylist did a perfect job, by the way, but it

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<v Speaker 4>went like it was me on me on neon orange,

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<v Speaker 4>like like crazy neon orange. And we had like a

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<v Speaker 4>very important shoot the next day, so they had to

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<v Speaker 4>rush me back into the city to get my hair

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<v Speaker 4>redone and we thought they were going to have to

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<v Speaker 4>bleach it again and do all these different things. So

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<v Speaker 4>that was that was a crazy thing that's happened, is

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<v Speaker 4>that I almost I wasn't sure what they were going

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<v Speaker 4>to do with my hair. Were we were tossing up

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<v Speaker 4>whether they were going to have to cut my hair

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<v Speaker 4>off completely because it was so much the wrong color.

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<v Speaker 4>But I luckily got my own way and was just

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<v Speaker 4>like just put like a you know, a tona through it,

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<v Speaker 4>and they they said they'd put a turner through it,

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<v Speaker 4>and then here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So I turned to the person next to me and

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<v Speaker 1>made a reference to a movie that you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>might be a bit old for you, but I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of looks like Jim Carrey from Batman Forever is

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<v Speaker 1>the Riddler right now?

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<v Speaker 4>And you're dead on. If you'd seen when I won

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<v Speaker 4>to Beda, you would I was wearing a green top

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<v Speaker 4>like beyond green, and hor and like black pants and

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<v Speaker 4>the hair and I look.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the I have to let you go enjoy chatting

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<v Speaker 1>with the media today. I will be in your audience,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. Good luck with wherever this goes for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is really, you know, just the start

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<v Speaker 1>of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks man, it's it's so awesome to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much for having me