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Speaker 1: Help the Willow Woody podcast that bite sized.

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Speaker 2: If your partner's got a friendship, very good friendship with

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Speaker 2: someone who's of the sex which they're attracted to, what's

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Speaker 2: the line? Where's the line in terms of what they

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Speaker 2: can do with that person? Now, the reason we're talking

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Speaker 2: about it was a couple of flogs on TikTok. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they just come out of the woodwork, these people, don't they.

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Speaker 2: We just spoke to a guy with one point seven

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Speaker 2: million followers and their bloody out of the bloke. They're everywhere.

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Speaker 2: There's so popke eybother. There's more people on TikTok than

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Speaker 2: they are on the planet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, very successful business. Tiktoks it into planetary,

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Speaker 3: is it essentially?

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Speaker 2: Anyway, So these people are popped up big story and

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Speaker 2: they're basically saying that one of the reasons that they're

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Speaker 2: so successful they've been happily married for thirteen years, which

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Speaker 2: is a successful relationship. There's noted about that is because

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Speaker 2: they said that they can only have mutual friendships. So

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Speaker 2: if one of them is friends with a person and

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Speaker 2: the other feels off about that person, then neither of

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Speaker 2: them are friends with that person.

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Speaker 3: Oh so what you can just you can, just what

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Speaker 3: can friends?

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Speaker 1: Just like, I don't like that friends, And he's like,

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Speaker 1: not fair enough, I'm not gonna be friends.

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Speaker 2: With you anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you even bring that up with the

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Speaker 1: mate with the friend? Sorry my wife doesn't like you,

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Speaker 1: or sorry my husband doesn't like you.

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Speaker 2: Just dissolve, just disappear. Oh yeah, I know.

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Speaker 3: I don't like that at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I almost feel like one of the main

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Speaker 2: parts of a successful relationship is like compromising and navigating

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Speaker 2: the people that your partner is friends with or that

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Speaker 2: you're friends with around your partner, Like that's kind of

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Speaker 2: like what it's about you, kind of you know you. Yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 2: these guys just don't do that. They just live in

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Speaker 2: a cave somewhere where either of them make friends with

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Speaker 2: other people. And that's probably what it would be like

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Speaker 2: doing that. You'd meet someone and be like, sorry, dude,

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Speaker 2: you've got to meet my partner before we can be mates.

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Speaker 3: Like a job interview with my wife.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, I'm not gonna ask can you have friends

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Speaker 2: outside your relationship of the sex which you're attracted to,

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Speaker 2: because I think that is insane and I think it's

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Speaker 2: insecure and I think it's just.

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Speaker 3: A lot about your relationship.

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Speaker 2: If I'm being brutally honest, but whack I like that,

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Speaker 2: Well it's true with it, Like, that's just crazy. If

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Speaker 2: you're that jealous that your partner cannot have a friend

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Speaker 2: of the sex that they're attracted to, you are you're

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Speaker 2: in the wrong relationship or you've got trust issues in

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Speaker 2: that relationship that you need to figure out. My question

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Speaker 2: is once that relationship exists, once your partner is good

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Speaker 2: friends with someone of the sex that they're attracted to,

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Speaker 2: what's the line, Like, what can they do? Can they

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Speaker 2: do a weekend away with them? You suggested a foot

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Speaker 2: rub beforewards.

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Speaker 1: Foot rub, and I foot rub is a fair bit

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Speaker 1: for me. I'd need to know the circumstances around the

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Speaker 1: foot rub, like if this friend was loyal involved, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's a factor definitely. Another factor would be why you

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Speaker 1: gave the foot rub. If they were like, oh, like

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Speaker 1: I started cramping because we're on a hike.

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Speaker 3: I get it Rubby's feet.

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Speaker 2: And if it was like, what about a hike? Is

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Speaker 2: a hike together? Okay? Fine? Overnight hike?

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Speaker 3: I think so absolutely fine?

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Speaker 2: What if they're sleeping in the same tent?

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Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's fine. Let's see, this

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Speaker 1: is my other big one is nudity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So if they were like, oh, yes, we finished this

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Speaker 1: nothing happened, but we were both naked, I'd go hang

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Speaker 2: I'd be tapping you on the shoulder at that stage,

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Speaker 2: which I think there might be something going on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think nudity suggests that, right.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of one activity where it was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: not fair enough, you had to get naked for that.

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Speaker 2: What about if they were doing body painting?

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Speaker 2: Body Well, you said you can't think of one activity

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Speaker 2: they need to get naked for body painting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that activity it might be over the line. Yes,

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Speaker 1: nude activities.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, yeah, I think that's fair enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people, some more people here. Was

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Speaker 2: where it was like someone was really good friends with

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Speaker 2: someone of the sex, they were attracted to. You're going

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Speaker 2: out with this person, So your partner's friends with someone

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Speaker 2: of the sex, they're attracted to. What was the line?

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Speaker 2: What was the point where you were like, Nah, that's

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Speaker 3: Do you have a line?

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Speaker 2: Nudle is a good think, It is a pretty good flag.

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Speaker 2: I think even like, yeah, I don't know. I think

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Speaker 2: it'd be pretty hard to hear that Sem was like,

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Speaker 2: even if she wasn't nude, staying in someone's bed, like

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Speaker 2: sleeping in the same bed pretty consistently one night. If

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Speaker 2: it was like a one night and I crashed.

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Speaker 3: In the same room, who cares circumstances?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if she was like, oh, you know, I

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Speaker 2: We played it to spin the bottle, got the oil

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Speaker 2: out and passed out, nood next to each other, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, no, where I was dear peppermint tea

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Speaker 2: this afternoon? Is it? No? I think there'd be an issue. Yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 2: thirty one and six five, give us a call. Love

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Speaker 2: to know them, You guys, what's the line there? It's

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Speaker 2: wheeling muddy thirteen one and six five. You're in a

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Speaker 2: relationship hypothetical for some people, but you're in a relationship.

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Speaker 2: Can you have friends outside that relationship of the sex

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Speaker 2: which you're attracted to right, And more importantly, this is

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Speaker 2: a question I'm really interested in, where's the line in

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Speaker 2: terms of how friendly that friendship can be.

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Speaker 1: Or what you can what you can do, or what's

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Speaker 1: what Yeah, what you're okay with your partner and that

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Speaker 1: friend doing. We discussed at length before the song there

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Speaker 1: on any activity that involves you being naked with.

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Speaker 2: Them, Well, that was your nerd line, and I reckon that.

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Speaker 2: I would say that I would be okay with a

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Speaker 2: skinny dip. Yes, And I skinn often like a drunk

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Speaker 2: well or not drunk. Excuse me, No, you definitely shouldn't

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Speaker 2: swim when you drunk. Absolutely, it's often it's often a

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Speaker 2: wild thing that was a little jake. It's often a

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Speaker 2: wild thing that you do.

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Speaker 3: With a group, with a group of people.

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Speaker 2: You haven't been a part of a late night skinny

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Speaker 2: dip with a group of people. I missed out. You

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Speaker 3: Times teenage years maybe, But a skinny dip still happening.

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Speaker 2: It's a thing, mate, And don't eels you're missing out

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe I'm a little bit.

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Speaker 1: If my partner went to a party with a male

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Speaker 1: friend and then came home was like, oh, great party,

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Speaker 1: big old skinny dip together.

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Speaker 3: I'd be like, hanging a second.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's a big old skinny dip though?

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Speaker 3: The whole party?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the whole party said, She was like, don't worry,

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Speaker 1: Kevin was there to hold my hand.

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Speaker 3: I'd be like, screw this, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: But the whole party is there.

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Speaker 3: I think he's coached you to a skinny dipping party.

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Speaker 3: He wanted to see your nude.

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Speaker 2: The line yeah, well yeah, I just think ned that's

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Speaker 2: the line. All right, Okay, Maggie, what do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: You got?

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Speaker 2: Well, Maggie, you go on holidays with your best guy friend.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I do.

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Speaker 2: And you're in a relationship. You're in a relationship, I.

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Speaker 3: Reckon, that's okay. Does your partner know this?

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Speaker 5: This friend of yours can trust him one to the

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Speaker 5: point where whenever we go on holidays, he actually messages

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Speaker 5: him and goes, bro, I trust you, like look after

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Speaker 5: her and I'm not there.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for looking after her. I mean that's what it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great, great indication of trust making.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you, though, Maggie, why go on the

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Speaker 1: holiday with the best friend over your partner, that'd be

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Speaker 1: the only thing that I would get weird about, be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I thought you wanted to go to Egypt with me.

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Speaker 5: Well, a lot of our trips have just been birthday

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Speaker 5: trips and it's a tradition that we started from years

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Speaker 5: ago that we became best friends. And it's a yearly

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Speaker 5: birthday tradition. So one year we go and go away

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Speaker 5: my birthday. And yeah, it's what everything.

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Speaker 1: Can your partner get involved? Like if he was like

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Speaker 2: To go on the skinny dipping birthday? Absolutely not. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: My best friend and I were like siblings. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: It's a lovely insight. Lovely insight. Let's go to uh,

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Speaker 2: Jenny here on thurnay. What do you want to say?

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Speaker 2: You know, I will.

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Speaker 4: Amazing dour sence she's all the time and all the

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Speaker 4: things she's just saying, there is there's no excuse she

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Speaker 4: shouldn't be doing any of that.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean like not having a friend. You

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Speaker 2: can't have a friend outside your relationship.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's just the opposite sex no, and even if

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Speaker 5: you like that same sex, No, it's just it's just

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Speaker 3: Before, and gener have you got experience in this.

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Speaker 1: Gen Well, look, I'm a luckal woman.

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Speaker 5: And even when I go over to the sisters houses,

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Speaker 5: all the men hang out in one point in one position,

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Speaker 5: and the other the sisters.

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Speaker 4: Hang out in another position.

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Speaker 5: There is no you just can't.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's it's not good. It's not good, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Jen?

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Speaker 1: Sorry the sisters did we somehow start talking about a nunnery?

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Speaker 2: Don't worry thanks to the call, Jen. I mean that's

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Speaker 2: that's that's Jenner's point of view.

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Speaker 3: Did I miss a big chunk of that somewhere?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? She said something in there. I'm not sure she's

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Speaker 2: was she talking about a nunnery? Let's go to Tony

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Speaker 2: on thirty one or six twenty. What's your situation, hey, guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my situation is like my partner's friend came out

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Speaker 4: to her and told her that he liked her. She

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Speaker 4: wasn't aware that she was in a relationship.

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Speaker 2: Whiz Okay.

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Speaker 4: The thing is, she came back to me, she told me, like,

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Speaker 4: do you think this is right? Should I still stay

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Speaker 4: friends with him? And I was like, mostly, what do

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Speaker 4: you think about this situation? Because she hasn't been in

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Speaker 4: like a relationship before, so she's not aware of how

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Speaker 4: to approach the subjects.

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Speaker 2: Wow, how long have you been together for a time?

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Speaker 4: Probably around six months or so?

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, so it's fresh, still fresh? Yeah, exactly, So

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Speaker 2: she's not into this dude, is she?

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Speaker 4: That's That's what I'm not too sure about. But it's

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Speaker 4: just like because it's the thing is that they barely

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Speaker 4: knew each other, either because she thought like she was

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Speaker 4: still single or so I was like, do you think

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Speaker 4: it's right, like it's to stay friends with this?

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Speaker 1: I think yes, Tony, But I think as a little

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Speaker 1: litmus test, I reckon Tony's Yeah, that's my secondary test.

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Speaker 1: I think you say to it, you go like, okay,

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Speaker 1: say to him you want to catch up, but just

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Speaker 1: say Tony is coming, and then see if he's still

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Speaker 1: keeping the catch with both.

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Speaker 4: It's actually there's actually more to the story because later

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Speaker 4: on what happened was she she did mentioned the team,

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Speaker 4: she said, I'm seeing someone, but then later on he

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Speaker 4: invited her to like an outing alone with him, and

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Speaker 4: then she even asked me at that point, it's like,

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Speaker 4: do you think I should go? It was like I thought,

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Speaker 4: I don't feel comfortable with it, But what do you

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Speaker 4: think do you think it's it's okay to go with

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Speaker 4: someone alone. Then later when she mentioned him like I'm

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Speaker 4: going to bring someone like you just changed the whole scenario.

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Speaker 4: He's like, Okay, I'm busy now and so forth.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's that's red flags. He's going to one

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Speaker 3: of those.

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Speaker 2: Out of there. Why not check out more from Willen

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