1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Last wave of the feminist movement has been the most damaging, 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: and that it has been a movement where like you said, Georgie, 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: the pendulum has swung to the other side where it's 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: now fuck men, and it's all this anger coming out, 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: and it's just it's generational trauma. It's generational anger. 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Rise and Conquered Podcast. I'm your host, 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: Georgie Stevenson, former lawyer turned entrepreneur, social media personality and 8 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: personal development junkie. This podcast is for my girl gang 9 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: who want to feed their mind with positive and expansive 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: thoughts to help them step into their power and live 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: their most authentic life. We chat a variety of topics 12 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: including mindset, business, relationships, health, and so much more. Basically, 13 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: wherever you are on your journey, I want to help 14 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 2: you you feel inspired and empowered to rise up and 15 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: conquer your next bold move I know that's going to 16 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: look different for everyone, but just no, I'm right here 17 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: by your side and that you have the. 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: RNC community behind you. Let's do this. 19 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome back to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. Guys, 20 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: do I have a spicy ep for you today? We 21 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 2: are joined by Monica Yates And this is actually Monica's 22 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 2: second time on the podcast. You guys loved her first episode, 23 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: so we are back for a part two because we 24 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,919 Speaker 2: really did not get the time to cover everything that. 25 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: I wanted to with Monica. 26 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: So if you don't know who Monica is, she is 27 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: a life coach. She is a queen of sex, pleasure, 28 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: fem masculine energy, men empowerment, business and life. She really 29 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: is a jack of all trades and you'll totally get 30 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: this vibe from the episode. But just her energy, her 31 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: vibe is so it's like magnetic, and her knowledge of 32 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: information and the way that she explains it is just 33 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: it's on point. So I just am aw every time 34 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: I listen to her. So today we are chatting about 35 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 2: men empowerment and Monica's view on the feminine movement. 36 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 3: Now bear with me. 37 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: With this episode, guys. It is very different, and I'm 38 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: going to be completely honest with you. I am someone 39 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: who's very pro feminism and I'm very like, I feel like, 40 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: for so long women were very suppressed and now we're 41 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: in a time where we are being so unapologetic. We 42 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: are doing our thing, and I absolutely love that. You know, 43 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: female empowerment is my thing. It's what I really bring 44 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: to this podcast. Monica is also about that. Do not 45 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: get us wrong, but Monica brings a really interesting point 46 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: to the podcast today about how this sort of time, 47 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: right now, we are emasculating men as a society. She 48 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: chats about how we can work towards empowering them to 49 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: take leads so our relationships, sex lives, and overall pleasure 50 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: in life are amplified. She has some really really interesting 51 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: points and we kind of go back and forth. So 52 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: this is like a really kind of I wouldn't call 53 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: it debating, but a little bit, you know what I'm like. So, yeah, 54 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: I just think it's a really insightful episode. 55 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: It's new. 56 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: I don't think you would have heard definitely not me 57 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: talk about there's probably not other podcasts. So I was 58 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: really excited to bring this to you guys, and I'm 59 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: really interested to see what you guys think. So after 60 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: this episode makes you come to the Facebook group, I'll 61 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: make sure I post a thread and I am really 62 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: interested to hear what you guys think, because I think 63 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: at the start you might be like me. And then 64 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: as Monica kind of explains, it is very interesting to 65 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: see her point of view. So let's get straight into it. 66 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: Let's welcome Monica to the show. Monica, welcome back to 67 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: the Rise and Conquer Podcast. 68 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: Thank you Georgie for having me again. 69 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to chat to you. Guys. 70 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: We did a podcast. What was it, Maybe like a 71 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 2: month ago? 72 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: No, it was like, I think it was like two 73 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: months ago. I was in too Loom. It was like 74 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: maybe middle of February. 75 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: Okay, so it was actually my doe have no concept 76 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: of time, so it was a couple of months ago. 77 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: I will make sure I link it in the show 78 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: notes because it was epic. It got so many downloads, 79 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: So many people loved that episode and they wanted more 80 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: of Monicas. 81 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: So I thought, let's do a bit of a. 82 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: Round two because I actually we just chatted so much 83 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: that I actually we had a whole other section of 84 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: questions that I wanted to chat to Monica about, and 85 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: we just didn't get time because it was already over 86 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 2: an hour long. 87 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: So that's what we're going to do today. 88 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: So first of all, guys, if you don't know who 89 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: Monica is, you're a bit confused. What's happening right now? 90 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: Press the link in the show notes, go back to 91 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: the first episode. Trust me when I say you're going 92 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: to want to hear that episode and then come back 93 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: here before we get into it. Monica, do you want 94 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: to just give a quick recap of who you are 95 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: and what you do? 96 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: Okay, quick recap and I'll keep it towards centered, towards 97 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: the topic for today's episode. So for today's episode, what 98 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: I do is I am a trauma healer and I 99 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: am a feminine embodiment coach, and I help women to 100 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: understand men, and I help men feel empowered by helping 101 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: women to understand how to stop the masculating men. So 102 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: there's this whole dynamic kind of going on in the 103 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: world where women are all trying to be like boss babe, misindependent, 104 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: and at the same time they're like, where's all the 105 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: good man next, y and there, And they don't understand 106 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: that all the man shaming is actually stopping men feeling 107 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: like they can really rise into their purpose and be 108 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: in their divine masculine and as a result, it's creating 109 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: what I was even talking about today on my Instagram 110 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: story on Instagram Live. What people are saying is like 111 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: soft men, like feminine men, and it's this weird cat 112 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: twenty two of like women are wanting these strong, powerful 113 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: men and then they're like, no, but we also want 114 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: men to be emotional and like, don't be too over 115 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: don't be too over dominating, x, Y and Z, and 116 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: men are feeling really lost in society and they're like, 117 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: we're not needed anymore. Women can do everything for ourselves, 118 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: so what's our purpose? And if you understand men, you 119 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: know that they need a purpose and if they don't 120 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: have a purpose, then they're not going to be in 121 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: that grounded, divine masculine leadership that makes the feminine feel 122 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: so safe. So this honestly could be a ten hour 123 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,679 Speaker 1: long episode, so we're going to keep it short and sweet. 124 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: But I do want to say to everybody before anyone 125 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: jumps down my throat, it is a politically incorrect subject. 126 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: It can be really triggering. I would really encourage you 127 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: to go and listen to any of the other episodes 128 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: of IGTVS that I've done about this topic, because if 129 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: you're listening through the eyes of your or through the 130 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: ears of your trauma, it can be very hard for 131 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: you to have an open mind. So I would just 132 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: suggest to you before you jump down my throat to 133 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: just listen to on my other podcasts because it will 134 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: help you to understand a very complicated topic. 135 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is actually I really want to get 136 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: into this, Monica, And I actually haven't told you this. Also, guys, 137 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: me and Monica do coaching, so that's why we're very 138 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: friendly and it's like we know each other very well 139 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: because we have a lot of. 140 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: Conversations off air. 141 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: But I haven't told you this, Monica, But I remember 142 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: like finding you, loving your podcasts and topics. 143 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: But this was a topic. 144 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: That triggered me that I didn't like that. I actually 145 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: didn't watch or listen to any content because I just 146 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 2: wouldn't have it. Because I come from a background where 147 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: I had a very strong father father figure. I had, 148 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: you know, very feminie mum who was a housewife, and 149 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: I really wanted to step into the role of independent women. 150 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: I didn't want to have to you know, I wanted 151 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: to be the breadwinner. I wanted to be able to 152 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: look after myself and all these things. And I really felt, 153 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: I guess oppressed from men at a certain stage of 154 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: my life. So I developed this kind of almost like 155 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: protection of what you're saying of this woman who does 156 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: it or who has it all, who doesn't need a man. 157 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: And so when you started talking about this content, it 158 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: was very triggering to me because I did feel like, 159 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: you know, for so long men have had this you know, 160 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: certain power, and I'm like, you know me, I'm like, girl, 161 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: gang women, let's do the thing. I'm I'm a female 162 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: empowerment person. 163 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: That is like my brand, that's me. 164 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: But that's why I think your content came to me 165 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: because I'm such a big believer on you know, things 166 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: that trigger you and things you need pop up when 167 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: you need them. So it is something and I'm no 168 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: pro and I haven't you know, done all the work, 169 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: but it is something I wanted to bring up because 170 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: I remember you talking about it and me going, this 171 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: is such an interesting topic because it's almost like the 172 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: pendulant has swung completely opposite way. We've gone from you know, 173 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: women having rights. We've gone from being independent, working, being 174 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: the bread winners, not you know, having sex toys, not 175 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: needing men for those reasons, and then like you said, 176 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: it's yeah, really swung the opposite way where we're kind 177 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: of having Yeah, I guess this stuff happened and so 178 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: I really wanted to bring this up because it's triggering 179 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: for me. 180 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Georgie, you are one of a large group 181 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: of my clients and past clients as well that have 182 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: hated me to begin with. Found me so triggering. Who 183 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: the fuck is this bit? That I end up being like, Okay, 184 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: there's some truth to what she's saying. I'm going to 185 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: hire her now, And then they end up being my 186 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: biggest fans because they're like, no, what she says is 187 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: really truthful. And it worked and it changed my relationship. 188 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: Because I think for me, like, I'm so used to 189 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: following people who are full girl gang, who are like, 190 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: let's fucking do it for the girls, and you are 191 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: It's not like you're not that person. But I think 192 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: for so long because like I said, I did feel 193 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 2: so oppressed by men at a certain stage that I 194 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: really reacted, and then that reaction has grown me into 195 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: who I am. I feel a sense of like, not acknowledgment, 196 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: but I feel this sense of I have to yeah, 197 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: the girls, I have to back that movement movement because 198 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: it has grown me into the person I am. But anyway, 199 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: enough about me, let's get into it. So and I 200 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: just want to preface this because I think this is 201 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: something I didn't understand at the site at the start. 202 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: Sorry is Monica is not. She's not talking about like, 203 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: you know, equal rights or you know that sort of 204 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: side of things. We're really talking about. Well, correct me 205 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, Monica, but like you know, the genetic 206 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: make cups of females and males, like biology world, yeah, 207 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: and our energy. 208 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: So to clarify what Georgie's saying, so, the first wave 209 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: of the feminist movement was obviously really important, and that 210 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: first wave wasn't a wave where it was like go women, 211 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: fuck men. Women were fighting for their rights. They were 212 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: fighting for the fact that they didn't have to be 213 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: housewives all the time, that they were allowed to vote, 214 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: they could go out into the world and they could work, 215 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: they could do their own thing. That's what they were 216 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: fighting for, which was amazing. There's been four waves of 217 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: the feminist movement and the second wave of the me 218 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: too and the last wave of the feminist movement has 219 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: been the most damaging, and that it has been a 220 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: movement where like you said, Georgie, the pendulum has swung 221 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: to the other side where it's now fuck men and 222 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: it's all this anger coming out, and it's just it's 223 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: generational trauma. It's generational anger of this anger coming out, 224 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: and it's if you really look deeply into it, which 225 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: I won't go into, but I am going to go 226 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: into in my book, which I don't know when the 227 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: fuck's coming out, it's taking you've read a right point 228 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: being is if you really really look, I keep look 229 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: changing what I'm saying, and it's really hard classical when 230 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: you really look into it. A lot of the wording 231 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: with this modern feminism that's being run through social media 232 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: is actually positioning women to feel like victims. It's like 233 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: poor women, we have no rights, poor women like like, 234 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: we have all these issues, and it's if you really 235 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: look closely at it, it's actually a lot of victimization 236 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: of women, which is that's how I felt, yeah, which 237 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: is really damaging to these young women coming through because 238 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: they're not being they're not being fed the story of like, girl, 239 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: you have all the rights that you've you've never had 240 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: this much power in history, fucking you do what you 241 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: want to do. It's actually being fed we're being that 242 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: story of like you're still oppressed and we're fucking not 243 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: we are not like we live. And yes, in some 244 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: countries you still are like which needs to be worked on. 245 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: But if you're listening to this podcast, you're probably living 246 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: in a first world country, and you're probably living in 247 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: a country where you know you can dress however the 248 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: fuck you want and nothing bad's gonna happen to you 249 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: as a woman, which is fantastic, right, So for these 250 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: kind of for these women living in these countries, we 251 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: are not oppressed. And when we're being sold the story, 252 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: which is it's being heavily sold through like social media 253 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: influences and celebrities that don't fully understand this topic and 254 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: they're just kind of being sheep to the noise it is. 255 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: It is really damaging to young women coming through because 256 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: they're not understanding men and women at a biological level. 257 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: And that biological level, which what you were saying before, Georgie, 258 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: is the fact that in our DNA, I don't give 259 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: a fuck what your beliefs are, what your political beliefs are. 260 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: In our DNA, men are the protectors and the providers 261 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: and women are the ones, and we can still go 262 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: out and make money. I'm not saying that. I mean, 263 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: look at us, you both around our own businesses. But 264 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: women are the nurturing ones, the caring ones, the ones 265 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: that thrive with connection. Men's number one need is passion 266 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: and purpose. Women's number one need is intimacy and connection. 267 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: And when you work from that level, you see that 268 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: we fit perfectly together. And women are all saying in 269 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: society that men make them feel unsafe, but the reality 270 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: is that these men, especially younger men coming through society, 271 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: they're not being raised with these amazing, grounded masculine role models, 272 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: and as a result, they're not embodied in their biological 273 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: energy of being the protector and the provider in our society. 274 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: And as a result of that, the feminine and women, 275 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: the majority of us have a feminine call. Women as 276 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: a result, can't feel as safe. So then women go 277 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: into this hyper masculine, this armor like you were describing before, 278 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: you go into this armor of like, well, I have 279 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: to protect myself because I'm not safe around men. And 280 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: as a result, we go and we hustle, we burn 281 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: ourselves out. We're not happy deep down. And if you 282 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: say to yourself, no, I am happy, I'm killing it 283 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: at work, you are not happy deep down. I used 284 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: to tell myself that and even like when I'm working 285 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: really hard, I have to be so careful because it's 286 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: so easy to go. I'm really happy. But let's cut 287 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: to the chase. You will never be as happy as 288 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: when you are surrounded by a group of your friends 289 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: having so much fun and not having a care in 290 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: the world, and there being men in the room that 291 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: you trust. Where your biology knows if someone if a 292 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: predator was to walk into the room, you would be 293 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: safe and a man would stand in front of you 294 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: to save your life. That is what creates safety for 295 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: women on a biological level. And when we're missing. 296 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: That key piece, yes, so yeah, explaining one hundred percent, 297 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: So I get what you mean. I guess what's hard 298 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: for me is and this says I'm going to be 299 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: rebutting you this whole time. 300 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: This is good. I was going to say, yeah, challenge me, 301 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: because then I can explain it for people that don't 302 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: get it. 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But for example, 338 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 2: my I have three older brothers and they were raised, 339 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: you know, by my mom and dad, and my dad 340 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: is very much that protector, that father figure, that masculine energy. 341 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: For me, I kind of look at my brothers and 342 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 2: their relationships and it does feel like it is too 343 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: swung the opsway of not we're talking about where it's 344 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: too masculine and it feels not oppressive because I, you know, 345 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: don't want to put that sort of out there. But 346 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 2: I guess for me in my relationships in life, I 347 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: get what you're saying, but how can we sort of 348 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: And I think that's why in my personal relationship, I 349 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: very much chose a partner who is not he's definitely masculine. 350 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: He's definitely a protector, Like he very much fits that 351 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 2: typical Trady role, which I find so sexy and so 352 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: like fits my you know, that sort of side of things. 353 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: But for me, his actual personality is not overbearing. It's 354 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 2: not like, you know, I'm the bread women get So, 355 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 2: I guess like to finish it in saying that, though, 356 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: how can we sort of bring this new dynamic where 357 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 2: we are equal but we're not emasculating men, but we're 358 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 2: still able to because for me sometimes it feels like, oh, 359 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: so should I not step in my power? 360 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 3: Should I not be this boss bitch? 361 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: Like? 362 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 2: How can I still feel pattern I said? Got you 363 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 2: so with your brothers? With your brothers, do you feel 364 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 2: like they are overbearing? Is that what you're saying to me? 365 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: They're just very much typical male energy, And it's just 366 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 2: for me personally, like I could never be in a 367 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: relationship with someone like that because it would be too 368 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 2: much for me. 369 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? 370 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so it does make sense. So this is where 371 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: we're needing to be very clear in society and the 372 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: messages that we're putting out on what we're trying to 373 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: heal within the masculines. You know how this whole thing 374 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: of like toxic masculine to get rid of toxic masculinity, 375 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: there's no definition of what that is. And the only 376 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: real solution quote unquote is to make men more feminine. 377 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: But that's not what the best solution would be. So 378 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: let's say, for example, that you're talking about men that 379 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: are very overbearing and they feel too much. They could 380 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: be expressing toxic masculine traits. And I hate that word 381 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: toxic because it's not toxic. It's actually it's small wounded. 382 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: It's just like a trauma response. But let's say, for. 383 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: Example, that's yeah, that's okay. 384 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: So for example, thing where. 385 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no, some of the stuff they say 386 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 2: to their wives, I would not fucking tolerate it. 387 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, cool, So that's good clarification. So that's more 388 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: of a wounded masculine thing, and that is because they 389 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: have not been taught like grounded masculine quality. So a 390 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: grounded masculine man would never feel too much for a 391 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: woman's nervous system. So when your brothers feel too much, 392 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: that's too much for your nervous system. A really grounded 393 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: masculine man makes your nervous system go. It's like just 394 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: so relaxing. That's what a really grounded masculine man is. 395 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: So in society when we're talking about like get rid 396 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: of all this toxic masculine, this mucho marcho macho culture, right, 397 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: what we're talking about is this egotistical kind of man 398 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: right where they're run by their ego. They're actually not 399 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: heart scentered at all, and our feminine that is very 400 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: off putting to us because it feels a little bit 401 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: dangerous because they're not grounded in their body. So you're like, 402 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: you don't feel as safe with them because you're like, 403 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: do they know right from wrong? Because they're all in 404 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: their head. For example, that can be the egotistical masculine 405 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: that we're trying to get rid of. But it's not 406 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: even necessarily the egotistical masculine. I want to correct myself. 407 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: It's just egotistical behavior full stop. It's just a trauma response. 408 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: And that can also show up in women. And how 409 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: that can show up in women is women that are 410 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: again very overbearing, very egotistical, very very vain, only care 411 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: about people's appearances, that kind of stuff that would be 412 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: an egotistical feminine kind of trait. So really we want 413 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: to just say we just want to get rid of 414 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: the egotistical stuff. Now in society, what's then happened is 415 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: we're trying to suppress the masculine. All this' quote unquote 416 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: toxy masculine, which is suppressing all masculine, all chivalry, all 417 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: leadership for a lot of men. Women are still wanting 418 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 1: it though, and men are feeling like they're being pushed 419 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: into more of this, like, well, I have to now 420 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: be really emotional and really feminine. There is a time 421 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: and a place for that, I want to add, right, 422 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: So there is there is a correct environment that you 423 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: have to read as a man of when you can 424 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: be softer and more emotional where it won't make your 425 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: woman feel unsafe, And there is a time and a 426 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: place where you don't want to do that because it 427 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: will make your woman feel unsafe. Now, on your point 428 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: of like you want to not emasculate men, but you 429 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: also want to be in your power. There is a 430 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: difference between you being in your power, Georgie, and you 431 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: crushing someone else so that you can be in your power. 432 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: So when you're in your power, it's like, I'm in 433 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: my power and you can be in your power. The emasculation, 434 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: all the crushing is I'm in my power and you're 435 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: not allowed to be in your power when I'm in 436 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: my power. 437 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: Interesting, and I'm going to be completely honest, I do 438 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: sometimes I think because of my you know, trauma and past, 439 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 2: I do sometimes do that obviously not on. 440 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 3: Purpose, but can you chat to us? 441 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 2: So for example, what does what does the balance look like? 442 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: What does it look. 443 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: Like to be on your power to not emasculate you know, 444 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: your male partner or your partner when they're in their 445 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: masculine energy, Like, what does that balance look like? 446 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: I love this, Okay, so let's like just do like 447 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: even some examples, I feel like that's going to be 448 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 1: the best way to kind of help the picture. So 449 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: for me personally, as an example, I majority of the 450 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: time make more money and I am obviously a powerful woman. 451 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: I run my own business X, Y and Z. Now 452 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: that is me at work, but the reality is I 453 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: also have a side to myself and we all do 454 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: as feminine women. You do as well, Georgie, where I 455 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: want to be looked after. So at the end of 456 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: the day, I don't want to still have to have 457 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: my fucking boss hat on and be figuring out what 458 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm making for dinner, what's going on on the next day, 459 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: and taking out the garbage. Fuck that shit, I'm done 460 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: for the day. So at the end of the day, 461 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: what that would look like is me dropping into the 462 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: more of that softness and my man figuring out what 463 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: the fuck we're doing for dinner and taking out the 464 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 1: garbage and doing all that kind of stuff. Other examples 465 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: can be that he might be like, hey, babe, let's 466 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: go I've booked a restaurant for sushi tonight, Like, how 467 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: does that sound to you? And if I was if 468 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: I was really like, no, I don't want sushi, I 469 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: want Italian, I would just be like, that's like I 470 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: really appreciate babe, that you've made plans. Can we swap 471 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: to Italian? I'm really craving that. That would be how 472 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: you can answer it, because it's like, I'm still speaking 473 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: my truth. I'm not gonna be a fucking doormat. We 474 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: are not. I want to clarify that we are not 475 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: talking about women being doormats. Here, speak your truth. It's 476 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: just don't emasculate someone. So I read like the whole 477 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: sushi date night. An emasculating way would to be, to 478 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: be in a masculine way to say it would be, 479 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to go to sushi. When did I 480 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: say I want to go to sushi? Like we didn't 481 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: even ask. 482 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's emasculating, so like, so subtle, but so different. 483 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: So different. But the way that I was saying it previously, 484 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: mind people was Babe, thank you so much for making 485 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: a dinner plan. I'm so excited to do out on 486 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: date night. I really am not feeling like sushi. Can 487 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: we do Italian? I'd really love Italian tonight. That's how 488 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: you would do. And he'd probably be like, yeah, fine, 489 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: I'll call them right now, because he wants you to 490 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: be happy. The thing is, and the reason why men 491 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: will often like zip their mouths for so long when 492 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: they're being emasculated, until it gets to a point where 493 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: it's like I'm done, I can't do this anymore. The 494 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: reason why they zip their mouths for so long is 495 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: because they want to please us, and they when you 496 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: shame a man, he internally is like, fuck, I'm not 497 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: a man. I've done a shit job. Oh my god, 498 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: And so they feel so bad about even the little 499 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: tiniest things. They won't show it to you per se, 500 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: but you have crushed them when you've said, why the 501 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: fuck did you book sushi? I didn't ask for sushi. 502 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: You crush them in that moment because they were just 503 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: trying to make your life easier. Men want to make 504 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: their lives easier, even little examples in my life is 505 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: even the male friends, they all know that. I'm like, 506 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: you got to do everything, not do everything, but majority 507 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: of things. Even like if I want out for dinner, 508 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: he will always book the restaurant. And there's it's not 509 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: about a polarity thing. I'm not dating and we're like friends. 510 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: He'll book the restaurant, he'll order the wine or whatever. 511 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: He will arrive at the restaurant before I'm there because 512 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: he knows that makes me really happy. He just knows that, 513 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: and I allow him to do that. And he is 514 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: happy because I allow him to do that. And that's 515 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: what I want you guys to understand of just like 516 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: we are happy when a man does something with it, 517 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 1: you know, and like your boyfriend takes the garbage out 518 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: with that you asking, or he plans date night and 519 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: you're like Oh my god, this makes me so happy 520 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: when you receive him from him doing that, that makes 521 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: him so happy, right, And I think, yep, you go jodging. 522 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 2: Sorry, Monica, I was just going to interject there and 523 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: say that's something that we talk about a lot, is receiving, 524 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: because it's something I struggle with because I'm such a doer. 525 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: And it's funny because I noticed this in my relation 526 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: relationship where Tim I think he had organized, yeah, like 527 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: a date night and he's like, it's a surprise, like 528 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: I've booked a restaurant, like he's trying to be really romantic. 529 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: I fucking hate surprises and I'm a control freak. So 530 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 2: I interjected and I'm like, tell me where it is. 531 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: What if I don't like it? Like and very you 532 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: can imagine like if you had just gone to the 533 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: trust this yeah, and not trusting him. And it's funny 534 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: because then he got his back up and he's like, 535 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: you know, you never trust me, and it's like and 536 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: then it causes this fight, and it's funny because we 537 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: He ended up telling me the restaurant was perfect, it 538 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: was the most amazing night, and I stood back and 539 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: thought to myself, I need to sit in this receivership 540 00:28:54,680 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: role where I do with yes literally, because I I 541 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: think it's a it can be a struggle for us, 542 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: especially if we are these badass women who are working, 543 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: you know, in jobs we love. We're doing big things, 544 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: we're making big moves. So I'm constantly in this masculine 545 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: energy where I'm getting shit done. 546 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 3: So it is hard for me to turn off. 547 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: But what I've realized is when I can switch and 548 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 2: I can be in this softer, more feminine, receiving energy. 549 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 3: I literally get the best. 550 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: Of both world because I'm in the power during the day, 551 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: I'm doing the thing, I'm killing my goals. I'm allowed 552 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: to be that person and like I chose him for 553 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: a reason. He compliments me. He is someone who loves 554 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: to look after me. Like he does all the house jobs, 555 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: he washes up, he does the garbage, he does that, 556 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: and he loves it. That's him, Yes, And so it's 557 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: like I need to sit in that receivership role and 558 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,239 Speaker 2: it's and that's such a small little example, but you 559 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: can imagine if me towards Tim have all these constant 560 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: you know, emasculating and I don't realize I'm doing it. 561 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: But if we have these constant emasculating things, he's going 562 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: to stop trying. 563 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: He's going to be like and that's the thing. So 564 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: and this is the issue, Georgia. Yet so your example, 565 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: that is a perfect example where your trauma response is 566 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: to be a control freak because it makes you feel 567 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: safer because especially and this used to be me as well. 568 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: I've not but always been like this. I used to 569 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: be for anyone that doesn't know, I used to be 570 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: super masculine, fucking control freak, huge masculine armor. My dad 571 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: was emotionally unavailable. So therefore I just like shut down. 572 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: I was just like cold as fuck. And we go 573 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: into the control freak because it makes us feel safer 574 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: if we know what's going on, if we're in control, 575 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: we get an illusion of safety, right, It's it's an illusion. 576 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: And at the same time, yeah, what you did, like 577 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: you said, is he got the message if she doesn't 578 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: trust me, and that is that ruins a man because 579 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: trust is everything. If you say these three words I 580 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: trust you to a man, it's like he's dead. He's like, 581 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm done marrying me. How my baby is right? Those 582 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: three words are magic to him. When when you trust 583 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: him and when you respect them. 584 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: Sorry, Monica, sorry to introduct again, but that's also like 585 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: a huge thing. And I feel like this is almost 586 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: just a fucking coaching session for me. But that's a 587 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: huge huston in our relationship because I am the breadwinner 588 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: because I am so when my masculine like Tim. 589 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 3: It's like I've got to throw him a bone. 590 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: I've got to you know, kind of meet him halfway, 591 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: because otherwise you can imagine him being like, what's even 592 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 2: the point of me in this relationship? 593 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: Correct? You know at that point? 594 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly so. 595 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: And that's like I said, like I think it's definitely 596 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: at the start, it's like you want to be independent, 597 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: you want to be in control, you want to have 598 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: those feelings. But once you realize you can actually switch, 599 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 2: and this is the biggest thing for me is once 600 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 2: it clicked that it's like, oh, I can actually switch 601 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: between these energies and have a very fulfilled, you know, 602 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: life and day and feel really good. It's not like 603 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: because I sit in receivership role with Tim in the 604 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: afternoon with dinner, that I'm not this boss independent woman, 605 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: Like we need to change that thinking. 606 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: You get to be both one thousand million percent, and 607 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: you can be a boss woman and you're not necessarily 608 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: a masculine boss woman, like I make a lot more money. 609 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: Like I said before, I'm similar to you Georgie that 610 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm working all day, but I do it for my 611 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: feminine So people never think that I'm like some like 612 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: psycho hustler boss woman because I don't portray that energy 613 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: at all. And what you said before of like when 614 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: you emasculate enough, they stop trying. That is the issue. 615 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: So you go all these high flying ceo women that 616 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: are like I just want a man that knows chivalry rrah. 617 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: But the reason why men have stopped is because these women, 618 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: and I used to be one of them. I'm not 619 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: saying I'm perfect. I used to be one of them, 620 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: would bash them down for so long they're like, I 621 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: give up, Like you know the way that I show 622 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: up now for men, I and you and people doing 623 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: this work. We are now the one in a million 624 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: of women. So when you're now encountering a man and 625 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: you want him to lead, you actually have to like 626 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: really make that clear to him because a lot of 627 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: them won't know because they have been suppressed so much 628 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: by women that they don't understand that they can be 629 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: that forward with you and that you'll receive that. So 630 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: you have to be careful that, like, if you bash 631 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: a man down enough here, one thousand percent will start trying. 632 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: And a lot of women complain about this of like 633 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: we don't have date night anymore. I have to plan 634 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: all the dates X, Y, and Z. And I'm like, well, 635 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,239 Speaker 1: that's not necessarily his fault. It's probably your fault. And 636 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: that can be really triggering for women to be like, wait, 637 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: it's my fault. And it's like yeah, because you're the women, 638 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: are the ones putting them down, and then we need 639 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: to empower them again. 640 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 2: And that's what Tim Okay, sorry you go yeah, yeah, sorry. 641 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: Tim's like, this is why you winged that we never 642 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: have day nights or anything. And he's like, this is why. 643 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: Tim needs to come. 644 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 3: Literally, he would fucking love this conversation. 645 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I've only got my monica my batteries on 646 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: Lake Low, and I haven't got my Childet's at the warehouse. 647 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 2: So the last sort of five minutes, can you kind 648 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: of wrap up and just chat to the audience about 649 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 2: And I also think this is a bigger conversation about 650 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 2: feminine and masculine imbalances in yourself, in your partner. So 651 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 2: give us just a little kind of wrap up. If 652 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 2: you're feeling over masculine, you know, what should you do 653 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 2: in your relationship? But maybe there is other people who 654 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: they want their partner to be, you know, more masculine, 655 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: to step in that role more like, how do they 656 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: ask their partner? How do they talk to them about that? 657 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: Okay, so both So yeah, there is so much to 658 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: this argument and no argument conversation, and I do have 659 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 1: a lot of resources. I would go over my stuff 660 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: to check it out. So if you are feeling over masculine, 661 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: a lot of women think, okay, I need to do 662 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: more feminine things. No, no, no, because that doing give more 663 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: feminine things is actually masculine. What you need to do 664 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: is you need to take things off your plate. You 665 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: need to slow down, you need to surrender more. You 666 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: need to take away the masculine, not try and shove 667 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: in the feminine things to be doing. Don'tru don't start 668 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: trying to shove in bath nights. If that's actually like 669 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: annoying and you're like, no, I just want to watch 670 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: Netflix and chill, then take away things don't shove in 671 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: feminine things to be doing. That would be a tip 672 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: number one that I would give people that are feeling 673 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: very masculine, and then just focus on letting go is 674 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: what you really want to focus on when you're like 675 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: in that hyper masculine. And I also want to say 676 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: that for majority of women, they actually need to heal 677 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 1: their relationship with the masculine within themselves and with men 678 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: in order for them to surrender to the masculine. Because 679 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: if you don't feel safe to let the masculine lead, 680 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: you won't let the masculine lead and you will not 681 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: be in your feminine. So a lot of the time, 682 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: it's not about you needing to firstly go and be feminine. 683 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: You need to firstly heal your relationship with men and 684 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: the masculine and then do the femine stuff afterwards. And 685 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: then in terms of speaking to your partner about this 686 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 1: and getting him to lead, if you are like, yes, 687 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: I actually can receive this and you're not kidding yourself, 688 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 1: then I would say to your partner something like, maybe 689 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: you need to start with apologizing, like babe, and I 690 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: always say to people just blame it on the podcast, Babe, 691 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: I listen to this podcast today. I've realized I've been 692 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: emasculating you so much. I am so sorry, and I 693 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: want to give you permission to call me out when 694 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: i'm doing it again, because I need to relearn this 695 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: because I don't know when I'm doing it, and I'm 696 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: going to need you. I'm going to count on you 697 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 1: to help to like wake me up to this stuff, 698 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: like can you do that for me? He'll be like 699 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: He'll probably be like fuck yeah, like thank fucking Jesus. 700 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: And then the second thing that I'd be saying to 701 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: get him to lead would be like, m that was 702 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: a weird word. Um, not not what that word it 703 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: was that I said. I would be saying something on 704 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 1: the lines of honey, I love when you are in 705 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: that provider role. When I come home and you've like 706 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: planned a date night, You're telling me what to wear. 707 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: You want to just ravish me, and you've like taken control. 708 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: I know sometimes that I can maybe resist your control, 709 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: but fuck, I just want you to know it is 710 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: so sexy to me, and I really, I really want 711 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: you to know that a lot of wanting you to 712 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: know is changed out of my head. I really want 713 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: you to know that I love when you lead and 714 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: it makes me feel so looked after. So I am 715 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: giving you full permission keyword, I am giving you permission 716 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: to take the lead more in our relationship, to plan 717 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: more dates, to boss me around in a sexy way, 718 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: by the way, that kind of stuff. That is how 719 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: I would say it. I am giving you permission to 720 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: be doing more of X, Y and Z. You want 721 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: to encourage, man, you don't want to say stop doing. 722 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: You want to say that you like it when they 723 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,959 Speaker 1: do abenc So really focus on praising when he takes 724 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: the lead, and it kind of brush away, not to 725 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: a boutive extent, but brush away when he does stuff 726 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: that you don't love. Focus on the things that he 727 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: does that you do love. Ah. 728 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 3: I love that. 729 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 2: That was perfect and I was taking notes. Well, thank 730 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 2: you so much, Monica. I am going to have to 731 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 2: write up this interview before my bloody computer dies. But 732 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 2: like Monica said, guys, she has so much information on this. 733 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 2: It's definitely like, if this is a triggering episode for you, 734 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 2: it means you need to deep dive and get into 735 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 2: it a bit more because it might be something that 736 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 2: really helps you. I know, for me, when I really 737 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 2: step into my feminine outside of work. Is I'm so 738 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 2: much more happy? Yeah, I'm so much more purposeful. And 739 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 2: I have really been focusing on this, like receiving energy, 740 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 2: especially you know with Tim and our relationship, and it's 741 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 2: like I'm definitely noticing such a huge difference where our 742 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 2: relationship is just a lot better and I can see 743 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 2: he really feels like he really feels appreciated and he 744 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 2: really feels like he's in his power, which you know 745 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 2: you want that in your relationship. So yeah, definitely look 746 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 2: into it. Thank you so much, Monica. I appreciate it. 747 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll have you on the show again look 748 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 2: about something else, but for for now, yeah, go check 749 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 2: Monica out. I'll put all the links in the show notes. 750 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Thank you, thank you for listening 751 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 2: for another RNC episode. I really appreciate taking the time 752 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 2: to be here with me and also for taking the 753 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 2: time for yourself. 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