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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Will and Woody podcast that bite sized.

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Speaker 2: We're going live to the Aussie Open right now. We're

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Speaker 2: going to be talking with a guy called Craig O'shannessy,

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Speaker 2: former coach of Novak Djokovic. Get I Craig, how are

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Speaker 2: you mate?

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Speaker 3: I'm really good. How are you guys doing it super well? Mate?

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Speaker 2: Now I can hear you down on the court there.

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Speaker 2: We have a couple of questions for you about Novak.

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Speaker 3: If that's cool, absolutely go ahead.

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Speaker 1: You coached him for a couple of years. I think

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Speaker 1: the first question, and the question that a lot of

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Speaker 1: people want to know, is what is he like as

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Speaker 1: a bloke as a person?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great question. So let's create this scenario.

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Speaker 4: We're down at a pub in South Melbourne and the

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Speaker 4: first thing you're going to see is a real down

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Speaker 4: to earth guy.

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Speaker 3: He's a good guy. You're gonna like him.

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Speaker 4: You know, he speaks well, he's interested in what you

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Speaker 4: have to say. But the conversation is going to kind of,

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Speaker 4: you know, blend over to all of us getting vaccinated

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Speaker 4: and I'm going to say, yeah, I'm triple vaccinated, and

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Speaker 4: you know, we're talking about Australian vaccinata and then we

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Speaker 4: asked Novak, and he's not. And that's where everything has

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Speaker 4: fallen apart here. It's not so much Novak the person

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Speaker 4: or Novak the guy. It's simply are we vaxed or

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Speaker 4: are we not? And the problems that follow that you know,

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Speaker 4: have been horrendous for him. You know, he's deported. So

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Speaker 4: it's a real sad state of affairs. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, I don't want to judge someone's stands

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Speaker 1: on whether therefore getting vaccinated or not. But there was

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Speaker 1: also the issue around him lying on forms when gained

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Speaker 1: entrance into Australia. Is that something that you believe is

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Speaker 1: of potentially his character, that he that he would lie

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Speaker 1: to get in something?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I think his explanation was, you know, he has an

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Speaker 4: agent that basically does everything, and you know, it's very

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Speaker 4: reasonable to think that the agent did the paperwork on

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Speaker 4: this and missed a spot.

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Speaker 3: So okay, that's what he said, and I'm going to

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Speaker 3: believe Yeah, okay, all right, Craig.

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Speaker 2: What about the French? So obviously Roland Garross has announced

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Speaker 2: that they're not going to be letting unvaccinated players into

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Speaker 2: the Open. Can you see Novak getting vaccinated?

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Speaker 3: In order to play man, I hope.

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Speaker 4: So, you know, he's going to have to figure this

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Speaker 4: out very quickly. If he doesn't want to get vaccinated,

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Where he's going to play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that simple.

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Speaker 2: Because I know one of the things that I've heard

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Speaker 2: you say about him previously is that it's his sense

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Speaker 2: of resilience which has really made him a great player.

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Speaker 2: He quite enjoys the fight. He's currently, as you would

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Speaker 2: well know, sitting on the same amount of Grand slams

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Speaker 2: as Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal all at the same time.

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Speaker 2: Getting vaccinated now is more than just getting vaccinated for

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Speaker 2: a personal health reason. Now it's a competition. Now, it's

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Speaker 2: something that's him versus them.

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Speaker 4: Do you think.

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Speaker 2: It's surely it's going to come down to that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say.

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Speaker 4: You know, when we look at his body of work

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Speaker 4: and his age and the longevity, there's some really good

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Speaker 4: stuff in the pipeline. Still in the twenty five percent.

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Speaker 4: He's one of the fittest human beings on the planet.

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Speaker 4: He's insanely healthy, looks after his body every day. He's

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Speaker 4: got a you know, a physio, he's got a strength trainer.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's still a lot of miles left for

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Speaker 4: a lot of records, So it just doesn't make sense

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Speaker 4: to give all of that up in this regard, you know,

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Speaker 4: it just doesn't make sense. So no, it's it's up

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Speaker 4: to him. It's up to his belief and and you know,

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Speaker 4: we can't fold him for that. But there's still many

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Speaker 4: many records and many titles still to be one for Novak,

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Speaker 4: you know, in the highest twenty five percent of his career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Well, hopefully he will be back at the

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Speaker 2: Aussie Open next year or maybe in three years. We

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Speaker 2: are talking to Craig O'shannessy, who is the former coach

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Speaker 2: of Novak Djokovic. He's live down at the IAO and

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Speaker 2: we've got more of Craig right up next on Will Enery.

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Speaker 2: Craig O'shannessy is Novak Djokovic's former coach. He's actually currently

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Speaker 2: coaching Alexi Popperin for the Australian Open, the twenty two

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Speaker 2: year old who is in the top hundred at the moment,

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Speaker 2: so hopefully he's a shot. This afternoon, in this evening

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Speaker 2: in austrain Open, we are doing a Craig about Novak

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Craig, we were just saying before the song

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Speaker 1: that it looks like the French Opens just mandated vaccinations.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what the US Open or Wimbledon's going

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Speaker 1: to do. And quite potentially he might have been to

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Speaker 1: play at the Australian Open for the next three years

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Speaker 1: and giving him so close to getting the most amount

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Speaker 1: of Grand slams ever from any player. If you were

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Speaker 1: still his coach, Craig, and you were still in his team,

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Speaker 1: what sort of conversation would you be having with him now?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's kind of like why yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, and he doesn't have.

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Speaker 3: To answer that.

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Speaker 4: He's like, you know, he always needs to say like

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Speaker 4: like anyone is like, this is what I believe in,

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Speaker 4: And he doesn't need to explain himself to me or

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Speaker 4: to anyone else.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I would provide a big picture outlook.

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Speaker 4: I would say, you know, this is where you're out,

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Speaker 4: this is what can be done, this is you know,

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Speaker 4: people want to see him play, Serbian people, Australian people,

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Speaker 4: you know, we want to see him on court.

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Speaker 3: He's a brilliant and as player, he's a good guy.

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Speaker 4: You know, take all of these things into account and

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Speaker 4: then make a decision.

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Speaker 2: So Craig, I know you said he's a good guy.

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Speaker 2: I know you said he should get VAXX. There's something

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Speaker 2: about the way that this bloke has carried himself which

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Speaker 2: has put him in a bad spot with the Australian public.

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Speaker 2: What is it about Novak Djokovic in Australia that we

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Speaker 2: can't get around him as a champion? What is that?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think there's two ways here.

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Speaker 4: The first is Roger Fedder and Rafiona Dow that's one layer.

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Speaker 4: You know, they are them lugs champions, especially here in Australia.

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Speaker 4: They can you know, their demeanor on the court, their

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Speaker 4: their behavior on the court is always impeccable. So a

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Speaker 4: lot of times that rubs no, that rubs us the

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Speaker 2: He's because he's Joey and he's got that extra flare

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Speaker 2: to him that's quite like confident.

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Speaker 3: Yeah and maybe confident smash cocky.

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Speaker 4: And yeah smashing rapids is it never goes over well

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Speaker 4: in Australia, just doesn't. So that's you know, that's kind

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Speaker 4: of a big deal. And that's a major part. You know,

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Speaker 4: we compare.

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Speaker 3: We want him to be as humble star. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: it's just not hire.

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Speaker 4: And it's not like it's not like he says, I

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Speaker 4: want to be angry on the court.

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Speaker 3: I want to break brackets. He doesn't.

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Speaker 4: But you know, there's a real human element where it

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Speaker 4: gets the better of him and unfortunately that that rubs

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Speaker 4: the Australian crowd the wrong way. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a little bit of a tragedy, mate,

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Speaker 2: and it's been a pleasure to pick your brain about it.

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Speaker 2: Craig o'shannessy. You can take out Craig's work www dot

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Speaker 2: brain game tennis dot com. Currently coaching right now. As

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Speaker 2: you can hear in the background, you're not playing. You're

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Speaker 2: not the guy playing while you're talking to us, are you, mate?

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Speaker 2: That's somebody else.

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Speaker 3: All right, that is somebody else. But that would be

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Speaker 3: a good effort.

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Speaker 1: I thanks so much. Greg, you're more of the boys

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Speaker 1: on the Full Show podcast.

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Speaker 3: You know you want to