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Speaker 1: we have an announcement that you must tune into. This
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Speaker 1: chatted about how creative you are. Flexi has some wisdom
Speaker 1: and some like new categories that she didn't come up with,
Speaker 1: but she references if you want to try and figure
Speaker 1: out where you are in your creative spectrum and also
Speaker 1: are we smarter than a twelfth grader? We're going to
Speaker 1: do a test from the BISMAN exam. Neither rustied business management.
Speaker 1: Bit of a regret they're doing theater studies, but it
Speaker 1: is what it is. Let's go frumno through me, boommmy
Speaker 1: lex Mom. You're listening to Flex and Frooms. I'm Kaita.
Speaker 1: A friend of mine recently got into Pilate's right. She
Speaker 1: started wearing lenkings to the gym and she asked me, what, honey,
Speaker 1: so I wear on the leggings And for her, I
Speaker 1: want to give her a bit of a step by
Speaker 1: zep on what undies are appropriate in every phase of life.
Speaker 2: I'm confused at the question.
Speaker 1: She's like, what, honeyes I wear under leggings that you're
Speaker 1: not going to see because she's like, I'm walking around
Speaker 1: Bondi to Bronti and I see no undilines on the leggings.
Speaker 1: What's everon wearing? Are they not wearing undies? Okay, to
Speaker 1: which I say, a little cotton in a moment, seamless underwear.
Speaker 1: They're praying at the sides, and yet they look fantastic. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is my guide to when and when not to
Speaker 1: wear underwear. Oh, under a skirt, no undies, under baggy
Speaker 1: cargo pants? What kind of skirt? Any skirt? I love
Speaker 1: Not wearing undies number two cargo pants with a wide leg.
Speaker 1: No undies.
Speaker 2: You're putting polyester straight on coach, is it not? Let
Speaker 2: me not judge. It's not the Hygiene Olympics, but.
Speaker 1: Better than having polyester right up on the goop.
Speaker 2: Why are you wearing polyester underwear?
Speaker 1: Well, because it looks good. Okay, Definitely wear undys to bed,
Speaker 1: the tight ones the boy leg. I want to eat
Speaker 1: in bed, stuck it all in. I like to feel
Speaker 1: secure in bed. Anyone know wering undis to bed. What
Speaker 1: is happening under there? It all feels like it's moving.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get graphic, guys, but like I
Speaker 1: like them to. You know, Okay, what do you think
Speaker 1: undies are fall While they have all different purposes?
Speaker 2: What is the function of underwear?
Speaker 1: That is the question that's as old as time itself.
Speaker 1: For me, the function of underwear is to feel safe,
Speaker 1: and to make the cuchie not rub on the jeans,
Speaker 1: and to make sure when you're wearing shorts the short
Speaker 1: scene doesn't ride up from front to back a a
Speaker 1: little padding. Undeas are to be taken off. There's so
Speaker 1: many good things about undies. I love the feeling of
Speaker 1: not having undies on.
Speaker 2: I told my mum.
Speaker 1: She's like, what what do you mean? You don't undy?
Speaker 1: She was disgusted.
Speaker 2: What about you? This is freaky.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing undies right now.
Speaker 2: Everybody, every like, everybody get in the rome is freaking out.
Speaker 1: This is all joke.
Speaker 2: This is all joke, guys.
Speaker 1: Okay, if you're gonna stand around and say that freeballing
Speaker 1: isn't amazing, you're a liar.
Speaker 2: Free balling.
Speaker 1: Free balling? Yeah, why can't I freeball? Hate wedgies? You
Speaker 1: know I used to get wedgie in primary school. Okay,
Speaker 1: so there's a bit of residual trauma there. My sister
Speaker 1: used to rip my undy so hard that they would
Speaker 1: rip in my asshole. The band would rip off, the bonds,
Speaker 1: band would rip apart. Once my sister drew two eyes
Speaker 1: above my bum crack and a smile, right, and then
Speaker 1: went to school the next day and.
Speaker 2: I was wearing low rise jeans.
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Speaker 1: two thousand and four.
Speaker 2: I was like, what's on your back? What? Oh my god,
Speaker 2: too little us.
Speaker 3: If you are someone who identifies as creative or prefers
Speaker 3: not to for fear that someone will try and make
Speaker 3: you calculate how creative you are, or measure you against
Speaker 3: your best creative friend, or compare you against the virtuo.
Speaker 3: So this is for you. It's really hard to be
Speaker 3: self aware about your creative abilities. But here's something that
Speaker 3: can help you get back on track. Maybe it's from
Speaker 3: this book called one hundred and seventy seven Mental Toughness
Speaker 3: Secrets of.
Speaker 2: The World Class.
Speaker 3: It's about the thought processes, the habits and philosophies of
Speaker 3: the greatest ones. It's by Steve Sebold Sie Bold. But
Speaker 3: this is also reference on a TikTok by Couture and steal.
Speaker 3: So basically there are five tiers of creativity, kind of
Speaker 3: like the food pyramid, how you've got the most populated
Speaker 3: at the bottom, and then at the very tip it's
Speaker 3: the least populated. So the most populated people would be
Speaker 3: those who are creating not to lose. The people who
Speaker 3: feel as though if they start, they'll fail because they
Speaker 3: won't be exceptional straight away. The kind of people who'll say,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not good enough, I'll start tomorrow, or
Speaker 3: has so many potentially great ideas but just doesn't execute
Speaker 3: on them. So they're kind of just like I think,
Speaker 3: it's a lot of people who are like, you know what,
Speaker 3: I could in a different life, or I could, but
Speaker 3: I couldn't make that tea took one hundred percent one
Speaker 3: hundred percent okay, and then the next up. So the
Speaker 3: second least populated is people who are creating to cruise.
Speaker 3: And I felt like this Sometimes it's when you get
Speaker 3: kind of like inconsistent with your output. You start something,
Speaker 3: you don't get the validation you're hoping for, and so
Speaker 3: it makes you question whether or not you want to
Speaker 3: continue doing it, and so other ideas I've just pushed through.
Speaker 3: Like I remember when I first made up my conversation
Speaker 3: card games like twenty nineteen, and like the only reason
Speaker 3: why I popped off immediately is because for the two
Speaker 3: years prior, I'd been playing the game every day on
Speaker 3: Instagram before I even realized it was going to be
Speaker 3: a game.
Speaker 1: Interesting, So it was like, oh, that's I was.
Speaker 2: I was doing it. I didn't realize.
Speaker 3: And so when I have new ideas that I want
Speaker 3: to execute, sometimes I'm like, babes, it takes a minute
Speaker 3: for things to really hit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And then the next tier is people who are creating
Speaker 3: to improve. These are inspired people who maybe have like
Speaker 3: a belief altering event. You listen to an album that
Speaker 3: really changes your life, like, no, I'm going to do
Speaker 3: it today. I'm going to make something. Or you read
Speaker 3: a really amazing book You're like, you know what, that's it.
Speaker 3: I'm going to write this book. I'm going to do
Speaker 3: this thing. You feel empowered based on something else that
Speaker 3: you've consumed. And this is people in this kind of
Speaker 3: phase of creativity get a lot of support and a
Speaker 3: lot of traction, and that motivates them to keep on continuing.
Speaker 3: So it's like when we get really good feedback for
Speaker 3: the show, like damn, like we.
Speaker 2: Really do do that, Let's keep going.
Speaker 3: Then you have the two tiers, which I just feel
Speaker 3: like these are exceptional people, and I think most of
Speaker 3: us are hoping to get to this peak eventually.
Speaker 2: So you got people who are creating to complete.
Speaker 3: And these are just the creative geniuses, big ego type
Speaker 3: people that think they can be the best. They're really
Speaker 3: motivated by gratification. They've got positive self talk. You see
Speaker 3: those people who are always cooking. I don't know about you,
Speaker 3: but I've seen some people on the internet where I'm like, damn,
Speaker 3: you just don't let up.
Speaker 2: Every day you.
Speaker 3: Are making the thing that you are inspired by. You're
Speaker 3: putting in the work. You're really inspired. And it's almost
Speaker 3: as if like they don't really care if they have
Speaker 3: an audience.
Speaker 2: They just know that they're good.
Speaker 1: They just know it interesting.
Speaker 3: And then you have the very top tier of creativity,
Speaker 3: the most like peak God Tear, and those are people
Speaker 3: creating to express. So if the bottom tier is people
Speaker 3: creating not to lose, these people are creating to express,
Speaker 3: so they become art in themselves. They believe they can't fail,
Speaker 3: they can only learn, they can only grow, They're only
Speaker 3: competing with themselves, and they've got complete faith in their
Speaker 3: self image. For me, for you personally, in where you
Speaker 3: are in your life at this very present moment, what's
Speaker 3: your relationship to creativity? Do you feel like you're a
Speaker 3: creative person? How does that work for you? Beautiful?
Speaker 1: Well, right now I'm creating artwork on the back of
Speaker 1: our sheets. If you hear little scribbling noises throughout our
Speaker 1: recordings is because I literally am incapable of not drawing
Speaker 1: when we're here. I've done a whole bunch of overlapping
Speaker 1: hearts and that really good drawing now and like drawing
Speaker 1: the bits. Yeah, thanks queen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the introduction of the color. Is working really
Speaker 2: well for you?
Speaker 1: Yes. So I've always been a drawer since I was
Speaker 1: a little kid. I would just go into my room
Speaker 1: and draw for my relatives that came over, and gave
Speaker 1: them presents of drawings.
Speaker 2: So I would say I've.
Speaker 1: Always been like a very what's it called, like making
Speaker 1: things creative, lots of drawing and writing and expressing myself.
Speaker 2: That's what you call consistency.
Speaker 1: There was some consistency there because I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: So I think for the first kind of a few
Speaker 1: years of my life, it was very much the top tier.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. It was giving incredible school projects
Speaker 1: that would really blow the socks off the teachers and whatnot.
Speaker 2: Oh you're one of those.
Speaker 3: Yeah, an amazing person to be Early on, I could
Speaker 3: never fathom when I saw these really creative people who
Speaker 3: really put everything, not even putting everything into it, but
Speaker 3: definitely weren't cruising. Definitely were And I don't even know
Speaker 3: if I observe these people to be talented or just committed.
Speaker 1: No, you had to see my year five projects. I
Speaker 1: literally go back and I'm I'm astounded. I peaked, you
Speaker 1: know how, Like, Okay, so withdrawing, you have to keep
Speaker 1: practicing to actually get good, Whereas there's a point when
Speaker 1: like you're all in year five and so you can
Speaker 1: only be so good. Yeah, I must say, oh it
Speaker 1: was the best.
Speaker 2: That's the best.
Speaker 1: Thing costs. And I will say, in my early twenties,
Speaker 1: I think I was operating on the highest field, which
Speaker 1: is just literally creating stuff.
Speaker 2: That I liked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's beautiful when you do that. It was such
Speaker 1: such a beautiful time.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was the same for you,
Speaker 3: but the time where audience feedback felt incidental.
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally see it, don't see it?
Speaker 1: I like it? Yeah, I like it. Nothing is better
Speaker 1: than that. And I'm always trying to get back to
Speaker 1: that from phase because it's when you create the best stuff.
Speaker 1: And it's also when if you create something like that
Speaker 1: and a fobbs you honestly do not give a rats.
Speaker 2: Ask, doesn't hear you? Like whatever, I make something you
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Whereas now you make something that you're not one
Speaker 1: hundred percent keen on me because the you know, some
Speaker 1: realities have set in and and it really hurts your feelings.
Speaker 1: So I'd say sometimes I am operating from the lowest
Speaker 1: level purely because it's my job now. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's easy to feel like you've had a lot to
Speaker 1: lose and you have to like keep up a rats race.
Speaker 1: But I try and not let myself create from that
Speaker 1: place because that's when it becomes unfun, and I think
Speaker 1: that's where burnout happens. Of course that's easier so than none.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just have to pull your socks up. But
Speaker 1: I think especially with like comedy or trying to be
Speaker 1: funny and stuff. You have to actually be enjoying yourself
Speaker 1: for it to be to come across as like genuine
Speaker 1: and actually funny.
Speaker 2: What about you, babe? I feel it.
Speaker 3: I feel like what I'm doing now is I'm trying
Speaker 3: to recycle or get rid of anything that I'm doing
Speaker 3: that's in that creating to not lose space or creating
Speaker 3: to cruise because we don't have to create realistically, we
Speaker 3: don't have to do all the things that we do.
Speaker 3: There are key elements of our jobs that are definitely
Speaker 3: non negotiable. But I think I personally spend a lot
Speaker 3: of time doing things I don't do that I wrote
Speaker 3: it my creativity, So it's like re rejigging that focus
Speaker 3: and being like, Okay, just do what is inspiring to you.
Speaker 3: Just do that because realistically, and it's been proven time
Speaker 3: and time again, that eats.
Speaker 2: It eats.
Speaker 3: That stuff eats and it feels good when it's like
Speaker 3: you said, I don't think we can tap back into
Speaker 3: what it is to be twenty and having all this
Speaker 3: like huboric and confidence or whatever, but we can definitely
Speaker 3: tap into the feeling of creating from a more pure
Speaker 3: place that's for or a more like egocentric place, really
Speaker 3: like making for you, not for the imaginary spectator who
Speaker 3: might see it and might like it, but you being like,
Speaker 3: oh I like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to watch it again and again and again,
Speaker 1: and yes, I will watch it again and again.
Speaker 3: This is really amazing. So to reiterate, the book that
Speaker 3: we reference is one hundred and seventy seven Mental Toughness
Speaker 3: Secrets of the World Class and this was also referenced
Speaker 3: by TikTok creator Coture and Steal.
Speaker 2: You're listening to Flex and Rooms friendship Situationship Off the Dome.
Speaker 2: Does that say anything to us? I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 3: But I've been thinking about how I've been reading Giang
Speaker 3: Yankovic's book called Just Friend Too, and she talks a
Speaker 3: lot about the formative friendships that she's created in her
Speaker 3: lifestyle and how over the course of her journalistic career
Speaker 3: or writing careers, You've spoken a lot about the way
Speaker 3: that friendships have impacted her. And I've been thinking about
Speaker 3: how I am a big fan of the acquaintanceship m H.
Speaker 3: I think that it is sacred in nature. It is
Speaker 3: I think the purest form of friendship transaction. No, you
Speaker 3: can dip in and dip out of a dynamic and
Speaker 3: nobody's feeling hard done by it. You know, those people
Speaker 3: like party friends are a great example. No party friends,
Speaker 3: she's checking for you mad because you didn't check it
Speaker 3: on the weekend, or that you haven't seen each other
Speaker 3: in three months because they've been no parties.
Speaker 2: They just kind of get what the dynamic is. But
Speaker 2: I feel as though when there's a bit of.
Speaker 3: A gray area and you can't assign a friend to
Speaker 3: an environment like a workplace friend or a party friend,
Speaker 3: people don't like the gray area. It makes them feel
Speaker 3: uncomfortable or they want to try and yeah, what are
Speaker 3: we what is this?
Speaker 2: What are we doing? So they want to try and
Speaker 2: escalate it really like really quickly, or they pull back
Speaker 2: out of insecurity.
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, what happens when you are
Speaker 3: in that grey area of acquaintance to potentially good friend?
Speaker 3: Because I've been thinking a lot about get really like
Speaker 3: building acquaintanceships and doing that in a way that's not
Speaker 3: leaving someone high and dry. I feel like you're good
Speaker 3: at that, but I want to be better at it
Speaker 3: because and I feel like what ends up happening for
Speaker 3: me is that I end up making acquaintanceships that escalate
Speaker 3: into more And I think that's because it's just like
Speaker 3: the nature of like the subject matters and the conversations
Speaker 3: and how a lot of the friends that I have
Speaker 3: are interconnected, So like I might have an acquaintance with
Speaker 3: through me whose froom is really really close friend, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't want to be their really close friend.
Speaker 3: I like being through me's friend and their acquaintance. But
Speaker 3: when you start to like mix it up, it's kind
Speaker 3: of like, let's just copy and paste, copy and paste,
Speaker 3: Like no, no, no, no, no, no, orry, I don't
Speaker 3: want to I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Copy and paste. I just want to keep this in
Speaker 2: its own little space for me.
Speaker 3: And I'm kind of reckoning with this idea of like
Speaker 3: what about when you have incompatible friendship needs with someone?
Speaker 3: So what if I'm in a period of wanting acquaintanceships
Speaker 3: and I'm dealing with people who want real best friendships.
Speaker 1: How do you temper the expectations.
Speaker 2: I don't think you do.
Speaker 3: I think people just don't get their needs met and
Speaker 3: they're kind of like, oh, I don't like the way
Speaker 3: this friendship's playing out.
Speaker 1: Oh some un comfyed is it is really See, I
Speaker 1: feel like with our job you get the chance to
Speaker 1: meet a lot of different people, but yeah, it's harder
Speaker 1: to have the incidental Well it isn't It isn't like
Speaker 1: it's easy to go to events and see people, but
Speaker 1: like you miss the opportunity to in a really low
Speaker 1: stakes way create the hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little chat.
Speaker 3: And because of the industries that we work in, where
Speaker 3: they hyper personalized and hyper social, I think that we're
Speaker 3: all impacted by parasocial relationships. Like in our industry, acquaintanceships
Speaker 3: feel closer or they appear closer because of the industries
Speaker 3: that we're in as well.
Speaker 2: So I'll have people.
Speaker 3: Assume that I'm really close with someone who's an acquaintance
Speaker 3: of Frou and I professional acquaintance, And then it feels
Speaker 3: strange that to say in plain English, oh no, we're
Speaker 3: not friends.
Speaker 1: Because I'm shading.
Speaker 2: It's such a mean thing to say. I don't really
Speaker 2: know them like that. I don't really know them like that.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm a fan. I'm a fan of comment fan.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's something to ponder.
Speaker 3: Let's figure out some more terms for friendships because they
Speaker 3: are as complex, if not more complex than romantic relationships,
Speaker 3: and I don't think we're doing them justice in the
Speaker 3: way that we discuss them. It's very binary, like what
Speaker 3: to do when you want to make friends, what do
Speaker 3: you want to do when you want to break up
Speaker 3: with a friend, and nothing in between.
Speaker 1: Literally, we are currently on the quest to become smarter
Speaker 1: than literal school children. We've been doing the HSC exams,
Speaker 1: including maths and food tech. That was last week and
Speaker 1: the year before, sorry, the week before. My god, I
Speaker 1: feel like since I left school, I can't imagine going
Speaker 1: back for a whole day and learning the whole day, Like,
Speaker 1: how did we do that?
Speaker 2: I don't think we did.
Speaker 1: We didn't, but I love we were there play lunch.
Speaker 3: She definitely were there. But I think high school dynamics,
Speaker 3: mirror's office dynamics. Everyone just hanging out and like doing
Speaker 3: incidental learning and working in between hanging out.
Speaker 2: God, okay, time to work, all right, absolute heaven?
Speaker 1: Look okay, Mickey sprinted out the bis Man exam Business Management.
Speaker 1: I didn't do it in school, did you flex?
Speaker 3: I did not know?
Speaker 1: Did you do it? Bis Man couldn't even pay me?
Speaker 3: But if I went back, I would I'd study business, economics, history,
Speaker 3: none of.
Speaker 2: These fun subjects. I was like, I'm going to do
Speaker 2: I'm going to do design. I'm going to do would work.
Speaker 3: Everyone's like, you should have done drama. People who meet
Speaker 3: me now that you didn't do drama. I was like, what, No,
Speaker 3: I don't see you doing drama, not at all. Anyway,
Speaker 3: take school seriously, people.
Speaker 1: I say redacted. Okay, so we have the bis Man exam.
Speaker 1: Let's start with question one? What method of communication would
Speaker 1: be most efficient for a business to share a weekly
Speaker 1: staff meeting agenda? Email, letter, mammoridium or noticeboard? Come on, guys,
Speaker 1: eat an email that's correct, but.
Speaker 3: Bring back a noticeboard because I feel as though give
Speaker 3: people agency and seeking out information.
Speaker 1: Okay. Two? What type of question is most effective when
Speaker 1: trying to obtain more information from a customer about their needs?
Speaker 1: Closed communication? Oh, a close question, open question or reflect
Speaker 1: question or repeated question. It's be open question and.
Speaker 3: I think it's a reflective question though if you really
Speaker 3: think about it, Like, not business from a HC perspective,
Speaker 3: but like, here's an open question for me.
Speaker 2: What do you what do you eat for?
Speaker 3: What did you eat for breakfast today? A smoothie exactly.
Speaker 3: That's an open question. If I was starting a business
Speaker 3: about smoothies, A reflective question is what do you hate
Speaker 3: most about making smoothies every day? That would teach me
Speaker 3: way more about your relationship to smoothies and the fact
Speaker 3: that you had a smoothie.
Speaker 2: So is it education the curriculum?
Speaker 1: Is it open or reflective? B?
Speaker 2: ORC? They say open, but I say they're lying.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm correct. Three What category of sign has a
Speaker 1: yellow background and a black triangle around the symbol? A emergency,
Speaker 1: B mandatory, C prohibition.
Speaker 2: And D warning warning warning.
Speaker 1: I would potentially go with emergency, but it's warning. And
Speaker 1: number four the final one. We've got a clean streak here, girls.
Speaker 1: Which of the following would create the most environmentally sustainable workplace?
Speaker 1: A using sensor lights, B adopting a green office program,
Speaker 1: C establishing a recycling paper program, D encouraging staff to
Speaker 1: use their own cups.
Speaker 2: What's a green office program? Yeah, that sounds kind of good.
Speaker 1: I think if I had to lock in B, I
Speaker 1: want to say A because I think that would actually
Speaker 1: make the most of the difference. But let's go with B.
Speaker 1: What hell is a green office system?
Speaker 3: I guess that's it, like the whole, everything from the
Speaker 3: top to the bottom, from stationery to center lights to
Speaker 3: water consumption.
Speaker 1: Get it together, folks.
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