1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: If you want to know what's happening on the local 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: political landscape, Katie Wolf has it covered on three sixty 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: Every One is Listening Mix one oh four point nine. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: Joining us live on the line is the labor member 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: for Solomon, Luke Gosling. 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Luke. 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 3: Good morning Cody. 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: Hey, look, I just. 9 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Want to make you aware if I can, about a 10 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: situation that we just heard from from the director of 11 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Elder's Home Loans, and we spoke to a listener yesterday 12 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: about this as well. We know that there are two 13 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: different bill bonuses at the moment for our first home 14 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: buyers and those sort of entering the housing market, and unfortunately, 15 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: at the moment we've got this bit of a situation 16 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: where well where some of those contracts that they're entering 17 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: into they may not be able to access those bonuses, 18 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: particularly the federal one, due to the fact that some 19 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: of the land titles have been delayed due to the 20 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: wet season. So we could be in a bit of 21 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: a situation here in the Northern Territory that obviously those 22 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: first home buyers in others dates and territories aren't going 23 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: to be impacted by because some of those people who've 24 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: entered those contracts may not be able to have them 25 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: on it because they don't have the title for that 26 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: land approved yet due to those delays. I'm not sure 27 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: if this is something that you know that we might 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: be able to get you to have a bit of 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: a look into or have a chat to somebody about 30 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: to see if we can make sure that those wonderful 31 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: Territorians trying to get into their first times are able 32 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: to hopefully do so and still get those bonuses. 33 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all we absolutely want, Katie. To be honest, 34 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: I haven't heard about the delays due to the wet 35 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: season as yet. I mean, the wet season gets blamed 36 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: on a lot of things, but it's just from hearing 37 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: what you're saying, it's hard to see how the wet 38 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: season could delay the issue of land titles. It's hard 39 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: to see, but I certainly will look into it, and 40 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: please feel free to pass my contact details to your 41 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: listener and I'll look into it, because what we absolutely 42 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: want is everyone who wants to get in to their 43 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 3: first home or wants to take advantage of the federal 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 3: government's home builder program should be able to and if 45 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: there's delays to that I certainly want to a situation stace. 46 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: That no, and we'll do the same as well. 47 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: We'll make sure we'll hopefully catch up with Senator Sam 48 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: McMahon and we'll ask her the same thing too, because 49 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: if it is just a situation where unfortunately some of 50 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: our territorians are impacted and you know, others in other 51 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: states aren't in the same situation, hopefully we can you know, 52 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: we can get it sorted because we know how positive 53 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: an impact those different schemes have had when it comes 54 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: to our construction sector as well. 55 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's keeping people in work, and we know that 56 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 3: if the government goes ahead with finishing up Job Keeper 57 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: at the end of this month, it's going to make 58 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: it really difficult for a lot of businesses. So you know, 59 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 3: I call on the federal government obviously and those that 60 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: are involved in the anti government to do everything they 61 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: possibly can to get this situation sorted. 62 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll see. 63 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: We'll pass on some of those further details for you 64 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: as well, Luke, so that we can try and get 65 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: to the bottom of it and try and make sure 66 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: territorians aren't negatively impacted. 67 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: But mate, we were keen to have a chat to 68 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: you this week. 69 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: We know that the Darwin Port has well and truly 70 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: been back on the agenda this week in the Federal Parliament. 71 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: From your perspective, you know where are things at. 72 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: It has been, Katie and I spoke yesterday in Parliament 73 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: about the report that's recently been issued and that's obviously 74 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: from a committee that's got both Government and Labor members 75 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: on it, and they looked at the Darwin Port lease 76 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: in particular and made what I believe is a pretty 77 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: uncontroversial conclusion, and that is that the Darwin Port, our 78 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: strategic northern deep water border of the nation should not 79 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: be foreign controlled hands. I don't think that is controversial. 80 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: I think that's just common sense. And as you will know, Katie, 81 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: right from the start when the colp leased our port 82 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: for almost a century, I was critical of that decision 83 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: by them, but also the Coalition government to support them 84 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 3: to do that. So it's good to see some members 85 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: of the Federal government, the Coalition government, saying that we 86 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: should look at ways to bring some Australian control back 87 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: into our strategic northern port. 88 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. We caught up with George Christensen about this yesterday. 89 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: Take a little listen to what he had to say, 90 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: obviously he's on that committee. 91 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: Question is going to be what is more costly paying 92 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 4: out the remainder of elease or letting a company with 93 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 4: strategic links to the Chinese military operate a strategic port 94 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 4: like the Port of Darwin. So that's the key question 95 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 4: that government needs to face up to. 96 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: What do you reckon? The answer is George, get it. 97 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 4: Back, get it back under Australian control, no matter what I. 98 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: Guess that's going to be. 99 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: You know, the discussion, isn't it Luke, whether you know 100 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,559 Speaker 1: how is that the only option here? To buy back 101 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: the port or to get it back? What you know, 102 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: what are our options? 103 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: Well, it was good to hear from a variety of 104 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 3: security experts that were saying, well, it's not a case 105 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 3: of just buying the portback holy or just leaving it 106 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: in foreign own hands wholly. There are a range of 107 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 3: other options that could be considered in the short term. 108 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 3: But when we talk about the cost of doing this, 109 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 3: I always remember how idiotic it was for us to 110 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: sell report for the NC government at the time to 111 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: sell the port, given that they had also just announced 112 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: a five billion dollar NAPE Northern Australian Infrastructure facility which 113 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: we could have assisted a non foreign to take that 114 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 3: port and develop it further, and us not doing that 115 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: at the time was really unwise. Now when we talk 116 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: about money required if he was to come back into 117 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: Australian hands, I also remind people of this. In the 118 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 3: treasurer at Josh Bredenberg's electorate, there is a road intersection 119 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: that he wants to put underground at a cost of 120 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 3: about two hundred and forty million dollars so that people 121 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: in his electorate can get to work in Melbourne CBD 122 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: three minutes earlier. Now, that two hundred and forty million 123 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 3: dollars is almost half of the price that the port 124 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: was sold for but for almost a century. So let's 125 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: just keep things in perspective here. The money spent to 126 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 3: get control back of our northern port will be money 127 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 3: very well spent. 128 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: Luke. 129 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: I also want to ask you this morning, it has 130 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: of course been announce that Marion Scrimjay is going to 131 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: be running the seat of Lingiari. 132 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: Good news, Yeah, it is good news, Cadie. We've got 133 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: that news through yesterday. It's firstly great that the party 134 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: members from the seat of Lingiari got to choose in 135 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: the ballot who they wanted, and I want to also 136 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 3: congratulate the other three nominees that put their head in 137 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: the ring. We had some great quality candidates. Marion obviously 138 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: is an outstanding candidate who's got so much credibility around 139 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: the Northern Territory as a fighter for for territorians, but 140 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: also someone who has very good relationships with industry, so 141 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: I can see it being a really positive thing for 142 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: the territory. 143 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 2: Caddy, Luke Gosling. 144 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: Always good to catch up with you mate. We really 145 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: appreciate your time today. 146 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, good on your caddy and see people at the 147 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: Grand Final at the Io tomorrow. 148 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, who are your tipping? 149 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: Oh jeez? Back to back to back? Yeah, ok so 150 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: Mary's but you know, anything can happen. But I did 151 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: want to plug. There's also a fundraiser of the Italian 152 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: Club on tomorrow or not as well for those that 153 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: maybe aren't gone to the footy. 154 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: All good stuff, Look Gosling, thank you for your time today. 155 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: Thanks Katy