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Speaker 1: Powered Buddy, I have Radio wapp from ninety six AIRVM

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Speaker 1: to whereever you're listening today.

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Speaker 2: This is Clearzy and Lisa's podcast.

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Speaker 3: Coming up on the podcast, the one and Only Todd

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Speaker 3: Sampson about his new show Mirror Mirror, Are You Well?

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Speaker 4: The also one and only William mckinnis about his new

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Speaker 4: book Jenna.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about phrases that you always use in some

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Speaker 3: beauties that came from Dad's and.

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Speaker 4: Why clares you needed a drink after a walk a

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Speaker 4: drink so thirsty. William mckinnis has a new book out.

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Speaker 4: It's called Jenna, and I think that gives us an

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Speaker 4: indication as to what it's about, and he joins us Now,

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Speaker 4: William mckinnis, it is always such a pleasant pleasure to

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Speaker 4: talk to you.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's always a pleasure to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: That's lovely and Jenna. I love seeing people overseas react

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Speaker 4: to what the hell that even means?

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Speaker 5: As I say, I'm just I finished working with people

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Speaker 5: on television show and would say I said that you're

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Speaker 5: liking the players and all that sort of trying to

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Speaker 5: be polite over coffee. Oh yeah, you know. It was

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Speaker 5: such a wonderful way of talking. Does it mean yeah no,

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Speaker 5: And I thought, well, you know it's one of the

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Speaker 5: most straight, you know, straight down the line, down the

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Speaker 5: word democratic ways of accepting a proposition and saying no.

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Speaker 5: It's usually used. The first time I really noticed it

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Speaker 5: was Transhead in the last Ashes series. Yeah, the Bogen's

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Speaker 5: Bogan Travis, Yeah, Alaide And you know they were all

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Speaker 5: over in my the Fly. He's got a fentry in

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Speaker 5: the session and they're trap. You must have. You're so

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Speaker 5: happy you were really seeing it well out there. You

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Speaker 5: absolutely slaughtered them, You really put them through the night.

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Speaker 5: And Trad goes, oh yeah, no, I was just a

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Speaker 5: job and I'm happy with positions. So yeah, I don't

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Speaker 5: need the praise. I'm just doing my job. Yeah. So Australian.

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 6: He's a World Cup hero mate winner.

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Speaker 5: This is what good was the world cast my.

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Speaker 6: That goes his catch little on his sentry like.

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Speaker 5: He ran he ran three killing meters you read another

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Speaker 5: knackers on the way through that way, that's how far

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Speaker 5: he ran.

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Speaker 2: I'm real.

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Speaker 4: So this is what the book is about. It's about

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Speaker 4: It's about words. It's about our love with words and

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Speaker 4: the weird and wonderful way Australians say things. Am I right, Yes,

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Speaker 4: but it's not it's so much more words.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, it's so much more. It's a weight loss,

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Speaker 5: the weight gain, the hair loss. But you know your

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Speaker 5: you can have a geline afro ten o'clock at coffee.

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Speaker 4: Break now you're running at all.

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Speaker 5: It's more about the words we use in Australia, and

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Speaker 5: some words and the people that use them and the

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Speaker 5: stories behind them. Like you know, Australians love nicknames, but

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Speaker 5: there's nothing better than getting a nickname. It's bestowing a nickname.

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Speaker 5: And I just go. I had a couple of b is.

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Speaker 5: I played rugby when because I grew up in Queensland

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Speaker 5: think I was sortable right probably you know. I had

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Speaker 5: I was also going out with his daughter at the

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Speaker 5: time and he detested me. Oh there was another there

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Speaker 5: was another coach who called me hardtop and I thought, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you must think I'm a hard and tough, hard running

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Speaker 5: went up to him and I said Rex. He said yes, William,

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Speaker 5: I said why do you Why do you call me hardtop?

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Speaker 5: He said, well, Son, you're like a hard top Courtina.

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Speaker 5: And if anyone knows anything about cars in the seventies,

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Speaker 5: courtinao hardtop. They called it a hard top because out

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Speaker 5: hard top. Men. He said, you're like a hard top Courteina.

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Speaker 5: You look good, but you run like a piece of crap.

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Speaker 2: That was great.

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Speaker 5: I thought, I'm going to own that. Yeah. I was

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Speaker 5: of mine and I'm greedy with here. He is hard top.

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Speaker 5: That's I love that, you know.

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Speaker 6: I'm it stuck, it stuck.

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Speaker 5: Stuck stuck. Indeed it did, I mean, you know, And

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Speaker 5: there was all sorts of thing. You know. My father

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Speaker 5: also loved giving people nicknames that he had a high

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Speaker 5: business that he had. This old Dutch guy had come

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Speaker 5: our dogs because our dogs were kelpies and blue heelers

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Speaker 5: or barkie like, yeah, pugs said you're not. I took

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Speaker 5: the O K case absolutely after a while, and he

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Speaker 5: was and my father was going, oh, buddy pair, I'd

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Speaker 7: Buddy dogs for you.

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Speaker 5: I say, well, what, what what is the fair? Get

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Speaker 5: the buddy dogs? And went on and on and on

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Speaker 5: and on, and I said, why do you call mister

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Speaker 5: Anchors the pharaoh? He has to me, just do you.

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Speaker 5: Why are we paying you money to send you that skill?

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Speaker 5: You know nothing of that is free. I went on

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Speaker 5: and on, and he finally sort of sat me down

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Speaker 5: and he talking to me like an idiot. I called

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Speaker 5: him a pharaoh right because he sits in his car

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Speaker 5: and he's beeping his horn right like that should make

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Speaker 5: all the sense to me.

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Speaker 2: It should.

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Speaker 5: And I don't understand he goes twoting car Man.

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Speaker 4: Because car our parents and grandparents had the best phrases,

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Speaker 4: didn't they. They're just yeah, reach peak Australiana during that time.

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Speaker 6: The handle him down through the generations, don't they? And

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Speaker 5: Working on this working on this show in n C,

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Speaker 5: I s Sydney, Yes, we can talk about you. We're

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Speaker 5: going to go out over time.

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Speaker 2: That's all right, right, and that's the key.

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Speaker 5: Make the key who runs for the sort of you know,

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Speaker 5: the camera, all the trains and everything. You know, I'm

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Speaker 5: going to have to go over time. And this young

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Speaker 5: off sider of his goes, what on a Friday? Not

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Speaker 5: happy jan He would have been about twenty one at him.

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Speaker 5: Do you know what that means? Where it comes from him? No, Mona,

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Speaker 5: when she's.

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Speaker 6: Not happy, love it hand me down.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of the show, I mean, it's been a long

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Speaker 3: time since Blue Heelers Mate, but n C I s Sydney.

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Speaker 3: About time we got one in another city other than

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Speaker 3: State Side. And Toddler Sance was very, very excited about

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Speaker 4: Made mostly because he was going to get to work

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Speaker 4: with you the other day.

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Speaker 5: Well, they needed someone to play the Sydney harbor Bridge.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I've been in a relatively good paddock.

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Speaker 5: When I met my hazmat suit, I look like the

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Speaker 5: hairrius and grumpiest jelly tubby names. Man. I don't know

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Speaker 5: what they're making it over there, but seems to be going.

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Speaker 5: It was a nice lad. Todd Yeah, it always reminded me

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Speaker 4: An extra Woody the third.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's a lovely blake. He's got a great name,

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Speaker 5: you know. You know what they called him, last Chance.

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Speaker 2: Last Chance.

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Speaker 5: He said to me, he said to me, that's what

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Speaker 5: his dad. It's a great nickname, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of TV, and Sydney is on my list, But

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Speaker 4: what I absolutely I would describe as some as of

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Speaker 4: the best television I've seen in a long time. As

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Speaker 4: the news Reader Series two has just now. Well, I

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Speaker 4: see because I worked in a newsroom in these years

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Speaker 4: see just how well it's done. And I had the

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Speaker 4: big hair, I had it all she was. I was

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Speaker 4: very happy, just a child, just take a day. But

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Speaker 4: I used to work at Channel seven on the weekends,

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Speaker 4: and I am sure I worked for your character. Your

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Speaker 4: news director is so damn spot on for the eighties.

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Speaker 4: Of course, different time.

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Speaker 5: Now, but a lot of a lot of maths teachers

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Speaker 4: How much fun really wasn't playing Lindsay Cunningham?

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Speaker 5: Oh it was, it was fun, as I mean, they

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Speaker 5: me throw things in and I'd say can I say this?

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Speaker 5: And they'd say, is it your father or your uncle.

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Speaker 2: Or aunt or a tea shirt?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I said, can I remember? I can remember another?

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Speaker 5: And not that this is rugby centric, but I mean

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Speaker 5: I can remember a guy having a go at me,

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Speaker 5: which is another great Australian seemed to spray.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the passion.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he called me. He said, you you you're useless.

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Speaker 5: You're useless. You call yourself a man, You're a second rower.

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Speaker 5: You're as big as a buddy barn William. He said,

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Speaker 5: you bluddy King. Look like Tarzan fell about King, if

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Speaker 5: anyone remembers him, was a rather flamboint bachelor. He said,

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Speaker 5: you did you ever work with Rick Harden?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Ricks still reading the news.

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Speaker 6: He's been days.

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Speaker 4: Yes, has his hair gown. His hair is wonderful, has

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Speaker 4: been through some times. But looking looking real good.

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Speaker 3: He's looking good and it's like great mist but yeah,

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Speaker 4: You know they are that they are the longest running

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Speaker 4: news reading team in the world. Institution totally totally.

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Speaker 6: Before the Sullivan's mane.

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Speaker 5: I tell you I have to remember looking at him

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Speaker 5: when I was I went to when the America's Cup

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Speaker 5: by that free Yeah, it was fair. That was That

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Speaker 5: was god. I was going out with a pavet. I mean,

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Speaker 5: can anyone remember Mark Povey patrolling? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I remember, yeah.

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Speaker 5: And they had they had sort of you know, bets,

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Speaker 5: so they were young women who were dressed like net

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Speaker 6: You because the eagles had the eaglets at the same time.

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Speaker 5: Ye know. I was chased by Laurie King once.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, he was huge.

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Speaker 5: We were John Job was coaching them. They were they

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Speaker 5: were training where Edith Cow and that's where Wopple was

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Speaker 5: and we were just having a recreational down there and

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Speaker 5: we were laughing and I was making fun of them,

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Speaker 5: and then they were doing balldrills and he just kept

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Speaker 5: on coming and someone said, he's coming after you. I

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Speaker 5: didn't know. He's not like that, big mustache, huge legs.

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Speaker 5: I think he was just putting the wind uppers. But

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Speaker 5: I mean I took off half the time of running my.

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Speaker 6: Larne Spottle eggs.

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Speaker 4: Well, William, we don't want to, but we have to

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Speaker 4: let you.

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Speaker 5: Go annibals, bed time, toilet.

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Speaker 4: Trying to get out of the underground.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 6: What the key was inside? Your friend?

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Speaker 2: Well, hold that.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to tell you what I have to

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Speaker 5: cut off.

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Speaker 4: Hold that thought. Maybe we could do a take, you know,

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Speaker 6: Talking to Welcome to the hard Top Podcast.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Bill william Is out now you too.

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Speaker 1: More Crazy, more Lisa, More podcasts soon.

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Speaker 4: What phrase do you love to use?

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Speaker 3: Have you got an absolute ripper? I can't think I

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Speaker 6: Beef, chief?

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Speaker 4: How's your beef chief?

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Speaker 3: You reckon your fifteen year old saying it to you

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Speaker 4: I'm a fan of oh my giddy und oh, yes,

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Speaker 3: Watching English real estate shows they go Gordon Bennett. I

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Speaker 3: still don't know what, Bennett. It's probably some kind of

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Speaker 4: You gonna find it, all right, We're going to do

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Speaker 4: that margin Beckenham. Hello, Hello, guys, what's your favorite mark?

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Speaker 7: Should be apples.

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Speaker 4: She'll be apples, apples, mate, Yes, and you can if.

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Speaker 8: You want to go meet burther you just say she'll be.

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Speaker 4: Apple, She'll be apples. Chuck, I could sell. Can I

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Speaker 4: hear dog?

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Speaker 6: It's a dog on chock.

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Speaker 8: That's my bed.

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Speaker 4: Well I was closer, he said dog. Nice? Thanks mag

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Speaker 4: Lisa in one Dowy, Hello, what's what's the phrase you

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Speaker 4: love to use?

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Speaker 6: Hi?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, occasionally I used drier than a dead Dingo's bull bag.

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Speaker 4: Really, I thought you were going to say, I don't know,

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Speaker 6: It's in that region.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty one trying. That's pretty really thank you, Lisa,

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Speaker 5: How does it pick than a broken nose?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's a beauty Yes, pretty busy as well painful.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Nick, by than a broken.

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Speaker 3: You're going to do some of the phrases you were

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Speaker 3: just saying, maybe right along Connor.

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Speaker 4: In Haven't Park? What have you got for us?

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Speaker 5: It's the old man's whatever.

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Speaker 8: He's hungry, he'll say I can eat a crutch out

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Speaker 8: of a loaf flying duck.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, that's his variations on that.

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Speaker 4: That's a favorite our father's generation, for sure.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: Do you laugh Connor? Or do you roll your eyes?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 6: Become scary when you start using the company.

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Speaker 8: My favorite saying, which my girlfriend uced all the time

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Speaker 6: Oh Feld classic isn't it that one?

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Speaker 5: Face all of our whole's book.

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Speaker 5: It's like a.

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Speaker 6: Camel.

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Speaker 4: I guess not good. How many are squeezed into said hat?

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Speaker 4: It would suggest what that might look like.

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 8: It depends on the type of hat.

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Speaker 2: She's going to kill me with this?

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Speaker 4: Listen. Last call Alison in Balldavis. What's your good morning?

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Speaker 2: My dad used to say, when you be watching the crickets,

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 4: If I don't know, I'm not as hot as if

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Speaker 6: I say?

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Speaker 3: And it's linked to what you were just talking about.

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Speaker 3: When you're inside with the econ on, until you open

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Speaker 4: Measure, duck into someone's front yard and have a drink from.

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Speaker 3: The home and go for the hose looking for hoses, lorrigoes,

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Speaker 4: That's all it takes.

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking through the wig walk walk past a

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Speaker 3: even if it's a you know, one of the dog taps,

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Speaker 4: I licked that thing with that big slobbery burs.

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Speaker 6: What are you? You're stocking up the hump like a camel.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's nice.

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Speaker 4: That's an hour and a half. You walked for What

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Speaker 2: Water, there's sure. Report on ninety six am.

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Speaker 4: Shakira has settled her tax evasion suit with Spanish authorities

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Speaker 4: tax fraud. Yesterday we talked about the Rolling Stones hinting

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Speaker 4: Black Mirror has been renewed for a seventh season. Charlie

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Speaker 6: As much as I don't.

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Speaker 4: good movie, if you said Hugh Grant and Matthew McConaughey

445
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Speaker 4: and Colin Farrell. The spinoff series, also called The Gentleman

446
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 4: has been created, co written and executive produced by Richie

447
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Speaker 4: so I expect good things, more, Clezy.

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Speaker 2: More, Lisa, more podcasts soon.

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Speaker 4: Todd Sampson series Mirror Mirror is back tonight seven thirty

450
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Speaker 4: on Channel ten. This time it's Mirror Mirror. Are you well?

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Speaker 4: Todd is joining us now? Hello, Todd, Todd. I can't

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Speaker 4: even say, I mean, I couldn't even work out how

453
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Speaker 4: to say what this industry, the wellness industry is worth

454
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Speaker 4: when you look at it in numbers, but it's five trillion,

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Speaker 4: my really.

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Speaker 7: Yes, huge. I mean it's a broad spectrum though. It

457
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Speaker 7: covers everything from medical to you know, to health fitness

458
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Speaker 7: to leeches, leach therapy.

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Speaker 4: We've certainly had their place and you know, but I

460
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Speaker 4: don't know about the way they're being used now, but

461
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Speaker 4: we'll get to that. What are what are some of

462
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Speaker 4: the most bizarre things people are offering under the guise

463
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Speaker 4: of wellness that you researched, Todd, was quite a lot.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's analyst, isn't it. You know we obviously

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Speaker 7: looked at Mirandaka's leech therapist.

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Speaker 5: Yes, we look at.

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Speaker 4: Psychedelics, model strike actress, not a medical practitioner, no.

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Speaker 7: I mean there's one of the things, right that the

469
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Speaker 7: most influential health people in the world today are not doctors.

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Speaker 7: There Joe Rogan, Gwinneth Paltrow, and Kim Kardashian. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 7: I mean to put that in perspective, like Kim Kardashian,

472
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Speaker 7: who's distributing you know, lots of Health Advice, has three

473
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Speaker 7: hundred and sixty million followers in the World Health Organization.

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Speaker 7: That's twelve yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and her sister has one of these companies as

476
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Speaker 4: well that she's you know, putting out potions Hocus Focus. Look,

477
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Speaker 4: I'm very curious about your dealings or non dealings with

478
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Speaker 4: Gwyneth Paltrow because I've I've personally never said Goop with

479
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Speaker 4: a straight face, but then I am a card carrying cynic.

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Speaker 4: But hundreds of thousands of people do put their faith

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Speaker 4: and money in her enterprise.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a two hundred and fifty million people are

483
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Speaker 7: writing a lot that I hate Gwyneth Palter. I don't.

484
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Speaker 4: I don't know you wanted to talk to her, she didn't.

485
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Speaker 7: I to track her down because she has one of

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Speaker 7: the biggest wellness businesses in the world. Exactly by the

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Speaker 7: way I know you've ever heard time saying the name,

488
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Speaker 7: but I think the name is a marketing construct. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: So Gwyneth g and p and she was told from

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Speaker 7: a marketing expert that if you use two o's like Google,

491
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Speaker 7: that'll be better from a marketing perspective. So that's where

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Speaker 7: goop came from. The majority of what they pedal, it's

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Speaker 7: not all, but majority of what they pedal pseudo science,

494
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Speaker 7: and it aims primarily at women. And at the heart

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Speaker 7: of the weld of industry, unfortunately, is here fear of dying,

496
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Speaker 7: of getting old, not looking good. So this is how

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Speaker 7: they make money because fear and insecurity are profitable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you' always going to have with those big numbers

499
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Speaker 3: of followers, you're going to have a fairal percentage and

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Speaker 3: working on percentages, who are going to go well Gwyneth

501
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Speaker 3: said it, or Kadashian said, we're going to go Yeah, I.

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Speaker 7: Think it saying, but it is worth saying. Vaginal steaming

503
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Speaker 7: and putting rock is not good.

504
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Speaker 6: Rocks, rocks, jade, eggs to a string.

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Speaker 7: Pichologists in the world have said no to.

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Speaker 2: This, Oh damn.

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Speaker 4: And also there's there's that whole touch of the Joneses

508
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Speaker 4: and keeping up with them now too. That's another factor

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Speaker 4: I think that comes into all of this at such

510
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Speaker 4: and such as doing it so I better do it

511
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Speaker 4: because otherwise my vagina won't be esteemed. I you would

512
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Speaker 4: think that if she really was proud of what she

513
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Speaker 4: was putting out there, she would I love to see

514
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Speaker 4: it from the rooftops and talk to you.

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Speaker 7: Well. I think she's been heavily criticized New York Times,

516
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Speaker 7: and again I don't think it's all bad with her,

517
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Speaker 7: you know, I fluctuate between she is someone altruistic who

518
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 7: is desperately trying to help the world and bring things

519
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 7: to the good things to the world and improve wellness,

520
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 7: or she is a very clever, calculated, somewhat ruthless capitalist

521
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Speaker 7: being the advantage of an industry.

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Speaker 6: In Colina.

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Speaker 3: I told, is there much documentational stats on people who

524
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Speaker 3: have been you know, got injuries or damage from at

525
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Speaker 3: some of these treatment from people who aren't medical professionals,

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Speaker 3: And I be yes.

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Speaker 5: There's plenty.

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Speaker 7: But who do you sue? Yeah, because most of them

529
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Speaker 7: are saying, well, I wasn't medical advice. I mean, how

530
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Speaker 7: many times have you heard with podcasters going I'm not

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Speaker 7: a doctor, although they play one on Yeah. Yeah, so no, no,

532
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Speaker 7: there's so many disclaimers going around. I mean there's a

533
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Speaker 7: very sad scene in the film in the first episode

534
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Speaker 7: of this person who's treating terminal cancer with beastings there,

535
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 7: which again I'm not blaming with it, but it is

536
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Speaker 7: something Gwenneth popularized when she said that she had used

537
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Speaker 7: bees things to cure a shoulder injury and it cured

538
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Speaker 7: it completely.

539
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Speaker 5: And now, in.

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Speaker 7: Fairness, bees are bees and Australia's leading the world in

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Speaker 7: bee therapy study in Perth that has cured cancer breast

542
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Speaker 7: cancer in a petrio dish. Cancer has never been cured

543
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Speaker 7: in a human, but it's been cured thousands of times

544
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Speaker 7: in a petri dish. And so what happens is with

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Speaker 7: a little bit of information, influencers make a big thing

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Speaker 7: out of it, and then of course, if you're desperate,

547
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 7: you'll try anything, and if it's it's endorsed, even indirectly

548
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Speaker 7: by someone famous, it gives you even more credence.

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Speaker 4: I'm totally all for the research of the power of bees,

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Speaker 4: but how did you leach facial.

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Speaker 7: Go I just posted yesterday, I posted the day after

552
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Speaker 7: and it looks like a gunshot wound I'm crazy about

553
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 7: that is I bled for the week, but the day

554
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Speaker 7: after my leech therapy, I flew to do ayahuasca in Oregon.

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Speaker 7: Psychedelic right right, don't look at yourself in the mirror then, yeah, exactly, exactly, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Ayahuasca psychedelics is one of the most promising areas of wellness.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 7: Australia is the first country in the world to legalize

559
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Speaker 7: the use of psychedelics for psychiatric use and and the

560
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Speaker 7: research is just catching up now. But my worry, as

561
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Speaker 7: we demonstrating the film is that practice is getting ahead

562
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Speaker 7: of research and we need and it's unregulated.

563
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Speaker 5: And the one I did was wild Wildwift.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes talking you about looking the mirror, just wings and

565
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Speaker 3: around about what am I doing to my body and mind?

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Speaker 3: Told me these films.

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Speaker 7: Yeah that guys, well it's better. It's better me than you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for your service for the leech facial yes,

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Speaker 4: or the couppying. That's another one that does my head

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Speaker 4: in I've seen actually that's been in the news a

571
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Speaker 4: bit again lately. It's uh todd what should people keep

572
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Speaker 4: in mind when they because know, as you said, no

573
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Speaker 4: one's saying that you know, there's not some great stuff

574
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Speaker 4: to have a go at. But what should people keep

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Speaker 4: in mind?

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Speaker 7: Well, the film is littered with experts, so we we

577
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Speaker 7: we always mirror, mirror, are always you know, all three series,

578
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 7: the first one was on cosmic surgery, set on the internet,

579
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 7: just going on wellness. We use the experts to anchor

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Speaker 7: it and bring us ideas. And it'd be fair to

581
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 7: say the advice that they give for wellness it's hard

582
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Speaker 7: to profit from, which is try to sleep eight hours

583
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Speaker 7: being your bed trade hours. Yeah, if you can eat

584
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Speaker 7: a lot less than you're currently eating and try to

585
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Speaker 7: cut down on red meat, walk twenty minutes a day

586
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 7: and have friends.

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Speaker 4: Just all too boring. So the same old, same old,

588
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Speaker 4: pretty much.

589
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Speaker 7: Yeah, the same old works, but you just don't make

590
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Speaker 7: as much money from it.

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00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're getting people to sleep, it's less time for

592
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Speaker 3: them to look at your post.

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Speaker 4: I guess it's like dieting, isn't it Taking less than

594
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 4: you put out? Is just too boring? Ad explanation, Well, we.

595
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Speaker 7: Cover it, We cover detoxing, so wouldn't see us. We

596
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 7: went to one of her favorite detox retreats and that

597
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Speaker 7: story around because detoxing beyond this specific medical use. Often

598
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 7: around drug addiction is a marketing concept. It's often just

599
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 7: die culture veiled really and so you're seeing the film

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Speaker 7: when we cover detoxing, it's it's dangerous because for a

601
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 7: lot of people, you're dealing with people that have trauma

602
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 7: already and then add on the time of the detox

603
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 7: and it's not a great cocktail.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yesterday and Nelie fell off my chair when I

605
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 4: noticed on the news they had they were interviewing an

606
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Speaker 4: influencer or what is it know, someone off TikTok saying

607
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 4: how this hot new trend to put your face in

608
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 4: iced water will make your skin. I thought, like, you know,

609
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 4: that's been happening since I don't know where it was all.

610
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 4: Joan Crawford was famous for it. It's not exactly a

611
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Speaker 4: hot new trend to wash your face in cold water

612
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Speaker 4: to tighten leeches.

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Speaker 6: No, not, that was true.

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Speaker 4: And that's the leeches things served a very valid purpose,

615
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Speaker 4: didn't it when they use them to you know, for

616
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Speaker 4: blood left for surgery, Yeah, for surgery and healing.

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Speaker 7: I think what we're seeing now is the snake all

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Speaker 7: salesmen of the past, which are you know, these traveling

619
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Speaker 7: snake all salesmans to show up in the village and

620
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Speaker 7: tell their potions and where the problem is. Now those

621
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Speaker 7: snake all salesmen have been replaced by influencers, and those

622
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Speaker 7: influencers are around, are doing it for twenty four hours

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Speaker 7: a day online.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's a lot more for a bottle of

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Speaker 6: Doctor Good these days, isn't it.

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Speaker 7: Wow?

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Speaker 4: All right, well, fantastic stuff. We look forward to this tonight,

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Speaker 4: seven point thirty on ten. Don't stop, Todd, Thank you

629
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Speaker 4: very much, thank you.

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Speaker 3: November twenty two is a date that will ring a

631
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Speaker 3: bell if you're a fan of Australian music in particular.

632
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: But it was the day in nineteen ninety seven we

633
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Speaker 3: lost in excess lead singer Michael Hutchins.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I can't believe it's been twenty six years. Yeah,

635
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 4: gone way too. So he was only thirty seven, so

636
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 4: we were in sixty three.

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00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 6: That's incredible, I think. Yeah, the other boys are.

638
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 4: I mean thirty seven. Yeah, it felt like, you know,

639
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: he was older when it happened, because it was larger

640
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 4: than live we've done a bit older than us.

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Speaker 6: But he'd lived two lifetimes or maybe three Michael.

642
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 4: Well, and you know he kind of did it was

643
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 4: a curious man. He was a curious man.

644
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: And let's be honest, there was struggle going on, elegantly wasted.

645
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: The year before Mentuxcess had not sold what they wanted to,

646
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Speaker 3: never make the top forty in America as an album,

647
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: and then the last couple of albums. I were trying

648
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: to recreate the magic of Kick from ten years earlier,

649
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: and the boys were stripping things back.

650
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Speaker 2: Struggle going on here.

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Speaker 4: There'd been an incident a few years prior, yes, where

652
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 4: he they say he did suffer some a bit of

653
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 4: a brain injury. He was hit by the France will

654
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 4: the cabit was and the guy hit him and Michael

655
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 4: was He lost his sense of smell and taste and

656
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 4: other things, and a lot close to him believed that

657
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 4: there might have been a little bit more, you know

658
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 4: that in the way that it affected his brain as

659
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Speaker 4: an injury. But over the years, the Inexcess Boys have

660
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Speaker 4: talked about losing Michael. Kok Bink Lily Says has spoken

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Speaker 4: of the surreal way they learned that Michael had died.

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Speaker 1: We were rehearsing in the old ABC studios in Sydney,

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Speaker 1: and actually Michael was staying in Double Bay at the

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Speaker 1: Ritz there and I lived in Puts Points, so a

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Speaker 1: lot of the mornings I was picking Michael up and

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Speaker 1: driving him to the rehearsals, and that way we knew

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't be late.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, this one particular day day, I.

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Speaker 1: Weirdly enough had stated at a friend's house on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the bridge, so I didn't pick Michael

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Speaker 1: up that day and went to rehearsal and we're all

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Speaker 1: there and there was kind of something going on, and

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Speaker 1: our tour manager and our security guy were there and

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Speaker 1: they said, guys, we're just got to go down to

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Speaker 1: Double Bay Police station.

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Speaker 6: Something happened in Michael's room last night.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what it was, and we're all sort

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Speaker 1: of going, oh, yeah, he's probably, you know, got busted

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Speaker 1: with some drugs or something, and we sort of let

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Speaker 1: it go. And anyway, Tim Farris in the band, the

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Speaker 1: eldest of the three brothers, he brought a little portable

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Speaker 1: TV in to watch the cricket, which in those days

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Speaker 1: with on the ABC, And so we're sitting in this

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Speaker 1: rehearsal studio waiting for Michael to get there and the

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Speaker 1: guys to get back from the cops station and watching

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Speaker 1: Tim and I are watching the cricket and a newsflash

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Speaker 1: came over the TV saying Michael Hutchins was found dead

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Speaker 1: in his hotel room this morning. So that was how

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Speaker 1: we found out far out on a little Telly. Yeah, Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's incredible. I hadn't heard that story before. That was amazing.

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Speaker 3: We know the ripple effect that went around the planet

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Speaker 3: after we lost Michael in such a horrible way. I

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Speaker 3: don't imagine what his last night was like and everything

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Speaker 3: going on in his mind with family and he's yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's partner and all the rest of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so hard to believe he was only thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: Crazy and Lisa