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Speaker 1: Well, as we know, parliament resuming today in the Northern

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Speaker 1: number of pieces of legislation flagged. We were just speaking

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Speaker 1: to the Opposition leader, Selena Yubo, but joining us on

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Speaker 1: the line right now is the Northern Territory Speaker of

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Speaker 1: the Legislative Assembly, Robin Lamley. Good morning to you, Robin.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie Wolves. How are you. Robin?

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Speaker 1: Always good? It's always good for me when parliament's sitting

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Speaker 1: because there is no shortage of stuff to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for all the politicians lining up to chat with you,

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Speaker 1: Well, there seems like there's a bit on the agenda.

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Speaker 1: How is it looking from your perspective in terms of

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Speaker 1: what is going to be on the agenda for the

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Speaker 2: Well, I just had your interview with Selena, so she's

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Speaker 2: pretty much covered off on everything I'm aware of. But

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Speaker 2: today we are talking about voluntary assisted dying. It's not

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Speaker 2: the legislation. I think some people are getting confused that

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Speaker 2: we're debating legislation for voluntary assisted dying today, not the

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Speaker 2: parliamentary committee that's just completed. Yet another Inquiry into Voluntary

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Speaker 2: Assisted Dying are tabling their report this morning, and I

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Speaker 2: know that many members intend to stand up and talk

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Speaker 2: about their position on VAD. So it is an important

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Speaker 2: day for a lot of members of Parliament because it

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Speaker 2: will probably be the first time that they've articulated where

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Speaker 2: Northern territory. So probably worth listening into if people had

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Speaker 2: a particular interest in this.

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Speaker 1: What time are we expecting that to happen, Robin, Well, we.

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Speaker 2: Go into parliament at ten, there's just a little bit

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Speaker 2: of business to deal with. Probably at around ten past

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Speaker 2: ten or a quarter past ten, the chair of the

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Speaker 2: Parliamentary Committee that undertook the inquiry, he will table the

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Speaker 2: report and he will talk to that and that's when

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Speaker 2: the debates will commands. And there's been a prediction that

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Speaker 2: it could go for quite a number of hours.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Robin, I guess a bit of confusion, you know,

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Speaker 1: assuming tans Or will be the one who delivers that

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Speaker 1: of be discussed or tabled today. You know, what's the

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Speaker 2: Well, there's nothing on the notice paper or the agenda

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Speaker 2: pertaining to what Selena, the Opposition leader is talking about doing.

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Speaker 2: So I can only assume that she will will take

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Speaker 2: this report inter Voluntary assisted Dying, and she will use

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Speaker 2: her twenty to thirty minutes to talk about her bill

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Speaker 2: that they've put together, the private members bill that the

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Speaker 2: Opposition has come up with around VAD and possibly and

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Speaker 2: probably other members of the opposition will talk to that too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, because it's a broad subject, you can talk

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Speaker 2: which is quite extraordinary because it will be a big

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Speaker 2: that's what you can you can talk to that. So

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing that's what she will do this morning. She'll

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Speaker 1: Interesting thing I was going to It sounds like it

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Speaker 2: People who are interested in this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it will be really interesting and

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Speaker 2: Least, that's right, Katie. I think a lot of members

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Speaker 2: I think we will hear from several people who have

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Speaker 2: fully agree with voluntary assisted dying, but I do accept

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Speaker 2: that all Australians have that right now except for Northern Territory,

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Speaker 2: we don't know when that is, but I want to

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Speaker 2: make it absolutely fit for purpose for the Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: Today, which I think is their commission.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, other people who have this sort of opposite position

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Speaker 1: It is it's such a personal thing, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I respect other people's views, whether they're the same as mine,

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Speaker 1: are dying, and that's you know, that is the big

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Speaker 2: Yes, and interestingly, the former Labor government they commissioned an

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Speaker 2: inquiry into voluntary assisted dying in twenty twenty four, and

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Speaker 2: then now the colp have commissioned another inquiry and the

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Speaker 2: recommendation of these two inquiries are somewhat different. So you know,

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Speaker 2: it's up to us as members of Parliament, as legislators

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Robin, tell me what else is on the agenda

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Speaker 2: Well, today we could be moving to the Environmental Protection

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Speaker 2: So I don't think anyone's going to be jumping up

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Speaker 2: along with that that. You know, there's quite a bit

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Speaker 2: public safety officers. They're merging them into one position called

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll all be keeping a very close eye on that. Robin,

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Speaker 1: your as the independent member for Aurah Lawn, what do

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Speaker 2: Look, it's good news. Martin Dole is a local boy

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Speaker 2: and he's obviously got strong networks. He knows the town.

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Speaker 2: I mean, half the battle in Alice Springs is when

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Speaker 2: that you've got such a turnover of coppers coming through

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Speaker 2: So having Martin in that position. Martin Dole in that

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Speaker 2: position will be good.

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Speaker 1: Well, Robin Lamley, you have got a busy couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ahead of you. We'll probably talk to you again soon.

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Speaker 1: If you're in town at any stage for the week

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Speaker 1: that was, we'd love to have you on.

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Speaker 2: I'll let you know, thank you, let us.

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Speaker 1: Know good to speak to you. We'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, thank you,