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Speaker 1: Anti put on your dance and shift.

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Speaker 2: Don't give me your best shot.

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Speaker 1: From mumamea dot com dot a u. Emma Gillespie is here.

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Speaker 1: Hello my friends, long time no nice to see you.

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Speaker 1: Lovely to be here, and we're going to be talking

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Speaker 1: coronation and Harry exactly.

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Speaker 2: Not in June, as an earlier caller predicted, but in May,

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Speaker 2: the sixth day of May, to be precise, Charles will

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Speaker 2: have his coronation.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a sort of a more slim

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Speaker 1: down version of the Big Whuh isn't.

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Speaker 2: A pared back affair? Still? Two thousand people? I don't

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Speaker 2: know if I was having a paired back party. If

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Speaker 2: it be two thousand people, there is it in Westminster

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Speaker 2: Westminster Abbey. It'll be in the abbey, two thousand people there.

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Speaker 2: But apparently, you know, cost of living crisis et cetera,

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Speaker 2: and King Charles being more on the side of climate

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Speaker 2: progressive et cetera, environmental philanthropic interests. It will apparently be

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Speaker 2: a ceremony that will reflect the spirit of our times.

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Speaker 1: Good.

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Speaker 2: But that's all well and good. Let's talk about what

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Speaker 2: everyone really wants to know about, which is will Harry

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Speaker 2: be there?

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Speaker 1: And what do we know, we.

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Speaker 2: Know, officially we have the word Prince Harry will be

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Speaker 2: in attendance, no Meghan. So we got the announcement Thursday

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Speaker 2: morning that Harry is going to make the trip across

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Speaker 2: the Pond to London from the US solo, while Meghan

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Speaker 2: will stay in California with Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet. Coincidentally,

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Speaker 2: it's Archie's fourth birthday on the same day of the coronation,

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Speaker 2: so maybe that's why Meghan's not going. But I think

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Speaker 2: we might be taking the kids down and run a

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Speaker 2: mark to jump taken into Disneyland for the day.

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Speaker 1: So what's the real feeling as to why she's not

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Speaker 1: going because she would have been invited? Is the choice

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Speaker 1: to not buy into the drama, to not look like

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Speaker 1: a hypocrite. What do you think is happening?

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Speaker 2: I think the broader sense is that if Meghan had gone,

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Speaker 2: it would be an entire media storm all on its own,

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Speaker 2: and that attention would then become one hundred percent about her,

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Speaker 2: It's about King Charles and it would just be a

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Speaker 2: night may I for everyone. I'm sure that all sides

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Speaker 2: of this are relieved that Megan won't be there, but

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Speaker 2: now attention has sort of turned to whether or not

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Speaker 2: Harry is going for reasons about bridging this gap and

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Speaker 2: healing the rift, or if it's a little bit more

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Speaker 2: strategic than that. So apparently someone from Netflix Senior, who

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Speaker 2: has worked with the Sussexes on their multimillion dollar Netflix steal,

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Speaker 2: told The Mail on Sunday that their livelihoods may depend

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Speaker 2: upon Harry's attendance. They said, Harry's going back for all

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Speaker 2: the right reasons, but there was a palpable sigh of

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Speaker 2: relief among those of us involved in the business because

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Speaker 2: brand Sussex relies on Harry being seen with his family.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's all about proximity

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Speaker 2: to the king, and the images from the coronation will

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Speaker 2: be instantly iconic. Harry will be in those photos and

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Speaker 2: from a business perspective, you can't put a price on that.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense.

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Speaker 1: So what about from a history perspective, imagine there being

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Speaker 1: a time when you talk about Charles being and Harry

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Speaker 1: not being there. He has to be there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there are so many reasons he has to be there,

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Speaker 2: and I think this is the outcome. Everyone was sort

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Speaker 2: of expecting that he would go Meghan probably wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: If he didn't go. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: would just write him right off.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely agreed, But I do feel that there is a

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Speaker 2: lot of the damned if they do, damned if they don't.

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Speaker 2: In this, you know, people will say, oh, well, Meghan's

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Speaker 2: being a coward staying in the US, or people will

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Speaker 2: say he shouldn't be going because he'll detract, or he'll

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Speaker 2: take media attention away from his father. I just think

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Speaker 2: that they're in that situation now where every decision that

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Speaker 2: they make is so over analyzed that we just can't

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Speaker 2: really know what their intentions are or if they're happy.

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Speaker 2: But what do you think this is? Is it supporting

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Speaker 2: dad brand Harry and Meghan? Is it about the brand?

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Speaker 2: Someone at Walt Disney pointed out that they're sort of

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Speaker 2: at this turning point where they've done the doc o,

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Speaker 2: they've done the book, Harry's done his book, and that

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Speaker 2: there's this sort of I suppose sparkle around them beginning

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Speaker 2: to fade, and that they're losing their currents currents.

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Speaker 1: They're losing relevance.

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Speaker 2: They've got to be more relevant. They've got to go back.

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Speaker 2: So Harry's got to go back there and but if

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Speaker 2: Meghan when I was along, there's a good chance they could.

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Speaker 1: Have been both booed by the Hoy peloy, which have

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Speaker 1: been terrible. I think he's going for us. I think

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Speaker 1: he has to go for family reasons, for historical reasons,

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Speaker 1: for he loves, and to not be there would be

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Speaker 1: a big deal. Having said that, imagine being a fly

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Speaker 1: on the water to those first moments where they're meeting

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Speaker 1: Frosty Frosty.

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Speaker 2: How do you think that Harry is going to be received?

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Speaker 2: Obviously we know the tabloids there are so so intense

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Speaker 2: and scrutinized. I think without Meghan, I think he's going

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Speaker 2: to be okay. Yeah, do you think Megan would have

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Speaker 2: been a lightning rod for trouble? So you leave the

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Speaker 2: misso at home?

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Speaker 1: Leave? Do you think that's what the invitation leave the misso.

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Speaker 2: At home says, look at after the kids at runn

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Speaker 2: a muk and Harry just has a wild type bunking

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Speaker 2: with uncle Andrew. They well, that would be a They

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Speaker 2: do think that it'll be a very in and out

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Speaker 2: kind of affair that he'll fly in go to the

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Speaker 2: Westminster Abbey thing and then he probably won't be hanging

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Speaker 2: around for any afternoon tea or SCons. That's a great description.

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Speaker 1: You know, I should be a Mum and me are

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Speaker 1: doing all this stuff. I'm singing there and come on over, Emma.

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Speaker 2: It's great to have.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guy. You know, Brittan, if you do go to

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Speaker 1: mom and mea sometimes you have to talk about women's issues,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be okay, I'm all over women. I'm my.

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Speaker 1: Dreadful and that's why you've never been invited.

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Speaker 2: A great wait.

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Speaker 1: Guys, you to thank Pho next Monday

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Speaker 2: To see him