1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to the Daily Ods. Today is Thursday, 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: the twenty sixth of August. I'm joined by co founder 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: of the Daily Ods, Sam Kozlowski, who is here to 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: take you through the big stories of today before guiding 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: us through a deep dive with a twenty one year 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: old who is suffering from COVID nineteen. Before that chat, Sam, 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: can you just update us on what is happening nationally? 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 2: It wasn't a good day to be a COVID case. 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: In New South Wales there were nine hundred and nineteen 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: locally acquired cases of COVID yesterday, with at least thirty 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: seven of those cases infectious in the community. New South 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: Wales Health also recorded two deaths related to COVID. Over 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: in Victoria, there were forty five locally acquired cases of 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: COVID nineteen yesterday, with twenty eight of those infectious in 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: the community. Meanwhile, in the Act there were nine locally 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: acquired cases of COVID, with at least four of those 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: infectious in the community. 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,959 Speaker 1: Before we jump ahead, I just wanted to clarify what 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: infectious in the community actually is, because I do believe 20 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: there is a bit of a misconception around this. When 21 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: we talk about that number, it's not necessarily that those 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: people are doing the wrong thing. It just means that 23 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: they might have gone for a walk or gone food shopping, 24 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: anything you're allowed to do in lockdown, and that contact 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: traces hadn't yet told them that they were required to 26 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: do fourteen days of quarantine. So that's usually because the 27 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: system is a bit behind, or because they haven't linked 28 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: those cases. But when we talk about infectious in the community, 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: don't just think people breaking the rules and going about 30 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: their day as usual. It's usually people who have been 31 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: following the rules but haven't yet been told that they 32 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: are acquired to quarantine. On the topic of quarantine, Queensland 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: has paused all travel from interstate hotspot arrivals for the 34 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: next two weeks. So what this means is that if 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: you're a Queenslander and you say went to Canberra for 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: the Parliamentary sitting week, you now can't go back, you 37 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: can't do hotel quarantine and you can't enter the state. 38 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: Here's Premier Palichet explaining why that is. 39 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: We are really concerned about the pressure that the hotel 40 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: quaranten system is putting on our resources. So we have 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: to change some of our policy, so they'll be our 42 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: health director that will be issued and this is to 43 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: sort this out as quickly as we possibly can. 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, at twelve oh one this morning, Western Australia East 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: border restrictions with South Australia and Queensland. 46 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: The other big story dominating headlines this week is of 47 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: course Afghanistan, and over in the US, President Joe Biden 48 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: has confirmed that the US will continue to withdraw all 49 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: troops from Afghanistan by August thirty one, and this is 50 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 2: due to the growing risk of terrorist attacks in the country. 51 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: President Biden made the announcement despite calls from some leaders 52 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: to delay the withdrawal to give their armies more time 53 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 2: to get their people out of Afghanistan, and this included 54 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: calls from British Prime Minister Boris Johnson. 55 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: The good news is of course, courtesy of the Paralympics, 56 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: where Australia has started on a golden note. As a 57 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: colleague of mine pointed out, I think we should just 58 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: call it off now because Australia is top of the 59 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: table after winning a number of gold medals last night. 60 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: For today's deep dive, we were fortunate enough to be 61 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: joined by Jet Stanton, who's twenty one from Western Sydney 62 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: and Jet has just left hospital after being diagnosed with 63 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: COVID nineteen. It was fascinating to talk to Jet and 64 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: get his reflections on the state of the public health 65 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: system and his experience in hospital, but also how he 66 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: feels about watching the protests that happens last weekend across Sydney, 67 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: Melbourne and Brisbane. Here's that chat. Here's that chat with Jet. 68 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: Joining me today is twenty nine year old Sydney sider 69 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: Jet Stanton, who has just come out of hospital after 70 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: contracting COVID nineteen. Jet, firstly, how are you feeling at 71 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: the moment? 72 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: Think general drowdiness. Just don't feel a great quality at all, 73 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 4: you know, I've lost all my census smell and taste fatigue. 74 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 4: I definitely don't feel like I could be as active 75 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: as they used to be. And I've heard that in 76 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 4: thinkers for a long time too. 77 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: And so where are you right now? 78 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: So I'm in hotel quarantine at the moment. I only 79 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: spent maybe a night or two at the hospital. They 80 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: moved me into hotel quarantine where they can still keep 81 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 4: an eye on me in an environment where obviously, if 82 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: there's other people that need the hospital more than me, 83 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 4: they can take that spot. 84 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: And how often do they check in with you on 85 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 2: a daily basis. 86 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 4: In the hospital, obviously they checked in about three times 87 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 4: a day, seven point thirty sometime during midday and then 88 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: towards the night. I do remember maybe they checked maybe 89 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 4: once or twice more, but here they just do morning. 90 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: And that we know that a lot of young people 91 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: are hesitant to get medical attention and get help if 92 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: they've got symptoms. Is that what happened to you? 93 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean not necessarily. It was definitely wasn't my 94 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 4: choice to call the ambulance. But at the same time, 95 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 4: I don't think I was really in a state to 96 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: call the ambulance. To be honest, I passed out multiple 97 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: times or a couple of times in a short amount 98 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 4: of time. That should cause two ambulance trips and the 99 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 4: second one to take me away to the hospital. 100 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: Obviously, tell me a bit more about your experience in 101 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: hospital in terms of how you felt the public health 102 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: system stood up to the challenge of COVID. 103 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 4: Oh, I couldn't believe it a like I ended up 104 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: being isolated with one other person in the same room. 105 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 4: At the start, it was just me by myself, but 106 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 4: they ended up putting another person in that absolutely lovely lady. 107 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 4: They'd full isolate me. I'd come in with their full 108 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 4: has that looking suit. Things so brave, getting right up 109 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 4: close to you, putting everything on you like this. It 110 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 4: was just surreal knowing that I have COVID, but these 111 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 4: people are still coming so close to me, and it's 112 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: just like the level of braveness I can't even explain. 113 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 4: But yes they were vaccinated, Yes they had all the 114 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 4: protective gear they could have had, but it was just 115 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: how close and personal they got in terms of trying 116 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: to help you out, and like the level of bravery 117 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 4: just to help someone out was just immensely impressive. I 118 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 4: couldn't thank them enough for a day. 119 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 2: Thinking of the reaction from other young people in the 120 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: last couple of days to your story. Do you think 121 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: that young people are taking COVID seriously enough, especially in 122 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: Sydney at the moment, No. 123 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 4: Definitely not. My situation was a perfect example of I 124 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 4: was going with the lockdown rules. I was isolating. I 125 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: mean I was not seeing people, not having people come over, 126 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 4: you know, people around me. That caused me to be 127 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: in this position. It was just an act of pure 128 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: I want my freedom and I'm going to do what 129 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 4: I want. I'm gonna, you know, I'm going to have 130 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 4: people over, I'm going to go mix with other people, 131 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: other groups of people. Even it's not even like they're 132 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: getting their freedom back, But they don't realize that there 133 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 4: was people like I was in that position doing the 134 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 4: right thing. I was making sure I was playing my part, 135 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: making sure in case I did have it for however reason, 136 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 4: I didn't give it to the next person. But obviously 137 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 4: they didn't think about that. I don't think about the 138 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 4: fact that other people, the next person might get it 139 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 4: and it's won't even maybe the fault. And also, like 140 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 4: you've got to keep in mind that just because you 141 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 4: don't think that it will affect you largely doesn't mean 142 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: the person next to you that you give it to, 143 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: we'll take it lightly, but they might end up in 144 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 4: my position in the hospital again, because I can't lie 145 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 4: to people around me that I contracted COVID from the 146 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: basically have no symptoms, Yeah, no symptoms, and yeah, it 147 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: feels like a real rip off. 148 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: And that's the thing, right, is that people have such 149 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: contrasting experiences with COVID. What do you think of the 150 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: government messaging that you've heard, not necessarily in the last 151 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: few days since you've kind of been going through the system, 152 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: but previously, did you feel like you fully understood what 153 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: your role needed to be and how to get vaccinated 154 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: and all those key messaging elements with this. 155 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: Before getting COVID. Yeah, yes, I mean I already had. 156 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 4: I had my vaccine booked the day after I got 157 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 4: my positive result. My girlfriend being a nurse and stuff 158 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 4: like that. Even if she wasn't an Earth, I'd still 159 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: be interested in getting the vaccine. Definitely was wanting to 160 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: play my part and getting the vaccine. I mean, when 161 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 4: I watched the protest, it was like person going through COVID. 162 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: It was just insane, Seve. And you know, obviously you 163 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 4: can't like force the vaccine downs people's throat. You know, 164 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: you can't tell people what to do. But I just 165 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 4: can't stress enough that if you're going to play that 166 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 4: part of the role, don't put other people in danger 167 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: of actually getting the disease. And if you're not going 168 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 4: to get the vaccine, then at least through the part 169 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 4: and not letting other people get at risk of it. 170 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to add in terms 171 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: of a message to young people who read our page 172 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: every day and look to our page for information on COVID, 173 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,119 Speaker 2: just be careful. 174 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 4: Where you get information from me personally going through it, 175 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 4: it was a very probably one of the most extremely 176 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 4: unpleasant experiences of my life. And just yeah, the end messages, 177 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: just don't put people in that danger. But that's just 178 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 4: like my end message because like I'm like, you know, 179 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: I was doing my part, people around me, weren't. I 180 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 4: ended up in this position and the one person of 181 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 4: everyone in that group ended up in the hospital. That's 182 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 4: pretty much the morrow of my story. Just don't put 183 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 4: other people at risk just because you want your freedom. 184 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: Jet. I really can't emphasize enough how much we appreciate 185 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: you chatting to us, and I'm so glad that you're 186 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: safe and healthy as healthy as you can be at 187 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: the moment in hotel quarantine and keep smiling and we'll 188 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: check in on you later 189 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 4: No problem, Yeah, I guess we'll see