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Speaker 1: It's a special Will and Woody podcast Mini Woods.

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Speaker 2: Loads of people. Loads of people at the moment are

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Speaker 2: really really flustered about the fact that they feel like

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Speaker 2: eating scammed. I personally get getting this call from the

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Speaker 2: tax department who are telling me that I owe them

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Speaker 2: thousands of dollars and I need to call them before

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Speaker 2: they take me to court.

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Speaker 3: I get it from PayPal as well. You're getting from PayPal.

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Speaker 2: I'm not getting it from PayPal. Maybe a sue of PayPal. Maney, seriously,

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Speaker 2: but I think, well, potentially.

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Speaker 4: I say click here because two thousand dollars has come

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Speaker 4: out of you account.

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Speaker 3: I don't even have a PayPal account.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well that sounds dodgy. But anyway, Look, everyone's

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Speaker 2: getting scammed in the moment. There's this theory going around

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Speaker 2: that it might have something to do with the QR

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Speaker 2: codes that people everyone's using, and maybe there's been some

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Speaker 2: sort of massive hack. I don't know. I definitely don't know.

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Speaker 2: I tell you who does know is this guy who's

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Speaker 2: joining us right now, doctor Dave Lacey, who joins us

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Speaker 2: right now from Idcare. He is the managing director of

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Speaker 2: IDKRE Today. Dave, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys.

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Speaker 2: So, David, can you just tell you is there any

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Speaker 2: truth to the fact that everyone's getting scammed at the moment.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of scam calls going around the country

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Speaker 5: at the moment. That's sure, Nothing that we're aware of

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Speaker 5: that has anything to do with QR codes.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, So that's a bit of a tinfoil five

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Speaker 2: G COVID's kind of a set up.

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Speaker 3: Can we disteal another myth, Dave?

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Speaker 4: There's a bit of a you know, an urban myth

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Speaker 4: going around that you only get bugs or scams when

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Speaker 4: you watch too much porn.

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Speaker 3: Are we distilling that one as well?

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Speaker 5: No, that certainly increases the chances that you're going to

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Speaker 5: get scammed.

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Speaker 1: Sure it, Okay, going to ride the dispelling wave there,

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Speaker 1: clearly that's going back to So what are the signs then, Dave,

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Speaker 1: Because you know, you get contacted by you know, as

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Speaker 1: Will said, the tax office, I feel like I'm getting

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Speaker 1: voicemails from PayPal saying sorts of things.

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Speaker 3: What are the signs that it's a scam?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard to tell, but usually they're demanding something

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Speaker 5: from you, whether they pick on a link if it's

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Speaker 5: a text message, or get you to provide remote access

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Speaker 5: to your phone or your computer. So scammers want you

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Speaker 5: to be compliant, they want you to do things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to give them something, because that's what happened.

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Speaker 2: I called the tax office now were like, we're never

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Speaker 2: going to ask.

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Speaker 3: You for details. You don't need to do that.

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Speaker 2: The other one I did, I got done was the

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Speaker 2: other one the other day, which was Australia Post though

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Speaker 2: they were pretending to be Australia Post. Have you heard

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Speaker 2: about that one?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, particularly in lockdown, people are buying more and more

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Speaker 5: stuff online. Yeah, so scammers are right onto that one.

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Speaker 2: And how does that work? Because that actually terrified me,

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Speaker 2: Like how are they getting better and better at this?

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Speaker 5: Well, they play numbers, so we're aware that there's well

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Speaker 5: over six million scam phone calls coming into the country

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Speaker 5: a month.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 5: So this is organized crime on a mass scale, and

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Speaker 5: they play numbers. You might be part of a one

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Speaker 5: percent that's actually waiting for an Australia Post to degree.

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Speaker 4: Right, So it's just a scattergun approach. They're just calling

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Speaker 4: everyone and they hope just one lands totally.

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Speaker 5: If they got one percent of six million people and

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Speaker 5: they're earning twenty grand per hit. That's a lot of money, right.

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Speaker 2: Wow, gee wiz's that's terrifying stuff. So organized crime on

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Speaker 2: a mass scale. Dave, final question here, this flu bot thing,

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Speaker 2: can you talk to us about that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Look, if you got an Android device, yeah, particularly

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Speaker 5: vulnerable to this. So it comes in the form typically

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Speaker 5: of a text message that says you're going to miss

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Speaker 5: a call, Yeah, click the link, and that literally clicking

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Speaker 5: the link activates the malware. And our testing of that

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Speaker 5: at the moment is there's a lot of antivirus providers

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Speaker 5: that are not picking it up right and they're targeting

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Speaker 5: bank loggings. So once you have it on your phone,

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Speaker 5: you can't get rid of it unless you do a

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Speaker 5: factory reset.

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Speaker 3: Bloody hell strowth.

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Speaker 2: Like I pressed that Australia Postalin because it looked so legit.

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Speaker 2: It was like, just tell click this and then tell

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Speaker 2: us what your addresses and when you're going to be home?

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Speaker 3: You've got flu button?

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Speaker 2: Am I cooked?

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Speaker 5: Dave? You're an Android?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm on an iPhone.

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Speaker 5: You're okay? Yes, You're okay?

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Speaker 3: Is this just a.

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Speaker 2: Massive verdiicon for Apple?

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Speaker 3: I'm going to fill an Apple invented flu butt.

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Speaker 2: Now, look, you if you have actually lost personal information

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Speaker 2: to a scammer. You should contact Dave idcare dot org

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Speaker 2: is we can get in touch with him. Are one

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Speaker 2: one hundred and five nine five one six zero if

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Speaker 2: you think you've been victim to a scam one one

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Speaker 2: hundred five nine five one six zero because Dave knows

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Speaker 2: how to help you out and sounds like it's absolutely

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Speaker 2: right now, right now, Dave, thanks for rolly helping mate.

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Speaker 2: That was fascinating.

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Speaker 5: Thankes sense.

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Speaker 2: I know lots of people would have heard that and

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Speaker 2: have been very worried about something they've clicked on recently.

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Speaker 2: His name is doctor David Lacey. He's the managing director

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Speaker 2: of id care and I gave those details before. Idcare

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Speaker 2: dot org or one at A hundred five nine five

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Speaker 2: one sixty is the phone number if you want to

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Speaker 2: get in touch with him. Id Care sounds like a

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Speaker 2: bloody good bloat and he can help you out.

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Speaker 3: Here more of the boys on the Full Show podcast.

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Speaker 5: You know you want to