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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know Rosso from the wireless, but these days

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Speaker 2: he's an architect enthusiast and he probably knows more about

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Speaker 2: your house than you do. Well, is here to tell

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Speaker 2: us about his new show on the ABC, Designing a Legacy.

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Speaker 3: We've been trying to get him from the last hour.

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Speaker 3: We finally got him.

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Speaker 1: So unprofessional, What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: I know you used to work at Triple J, but come.

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Speaker 1: On, would you really want to know the boring story? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I had to use this app because I'm doing

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Speaker 1: all this promotion for this television show. And you got

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Speaker 1: to use these apps now because you're not allowed to

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Speaker 1: go and do anyone's studios. And one of the things

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Speaker 1: they tell you to do is put your phone on,

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Speaker 1: do not disturb, to use it. And that's what I did,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't take it off.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, ah, of course because of the Well that's it.

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Speaker 3: That's just technology. So you were sitting there ready ready

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Speaker 3: to receive.

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Speaker 2: Yes, looking at the phone so it doesn't even light up.

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Speaker 1: No, And I was so proud of myself, and then

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Speaker 1: I was like, there's seventeen miss calls from your wonderful

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Speaker 1: producer gosh, well we've.

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Speaker 3: Got you now, Tylan, right now.

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Speaker 2: But you're here, let's talk about you. Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: your love of architecture. Architecture is the new nerd porn,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know this is really interesting. I was in

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Speaker 1: a cab the other day and the cab driver said,

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Speaker 1: and he said, oh, I used to listen to you

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Speaker 1: on the radio. That was pretty good. And then you

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Speaker 1: did that shape for the A B so that architecture

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Speaker 1: being and that was all like that. You've carved out

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Speaker 1: a bit of a niche for yourself, haven't you. And

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Speaker 1: I yeah, I'm not sureing anyone else really wants it,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, And then there's some sort of awkward pause.

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Speaker 1: He looks out the window and then he looks at

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Speaker 1: me and he goes, yeah, you're right, because if Arn

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Speaker 1: Dave suddenly decides he likes architecture, you're.

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Speaker 3: Stuff's true, that's true. But you're the man that saved

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Speaker 3: the Serious Building. You're the first. I've never been to

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Speaker 3: a protest for anything in my life, but I went

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Speaker 3: along to the protest that you organized to stop the

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Speaker 3: pulling down of the Serious Building near the Harbor Bridge.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know whether I saved it, but I

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Speaker 1: think it was, you mate, if we're honest. We appreciated

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Speaker 1: your support, but it was you know, it was interesting

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Speaker 1: having people who had not been near the building. I

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Speaker 1: hadn't thought about the building and what it means to

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Speaker 1: the city to have all sorts of buildings from different

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Speaker 1: areas and how they make up the city. And ultimately

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Speaker 1: the building wasn't saved for public housing, but it's been

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Speaker 1: saved for our for our city skyline and to generations

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Speaker 1: to come. And it's a good result with you.

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Speaker 2: Know, we often lament the beautiful buildings that we've torn

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Speaker 2: down in Sydney and all around Australia. Are we better

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Speaker 2: at that now?

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Speaker 1: No? Well, sometimes we are. I mean it goes in cycles,

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Speaker 1: and it depends where you aren't. It depends on the time,

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Speaker 1: and greed tends to overshadow everything, and particularly here in Sydney.

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Speaker 1: We can't help ourselves. We're used to it. But what

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Speaker 1: we what we can't find ourselves is value in the past.

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Speaker 1: And what's tricky is we all know that, you know,

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Speaker 1: you go to the QVB ryep so QVB we go.

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Speaker 1: We understand that untill an eight it's beautiful it's part

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Speaker 1: of the city. It's a great experience, but sixty years

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Speaker 1: ago they wanted to knock it over and put a

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Speaker 1: modern car park there. Yeah, and so those things happen.

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Speaker 1: There's times of buildings people look at them and they

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Speaker 1: just don't see the beauty in them, which I think

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Speaker 1: are real sad.

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Speaker 3: So how long does it take for a building to

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Speaker 3: become so relevant that they're not going to knock it down?

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Speaker 1: Somewhere between fifteen and seventy years, And especially in that

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Speaker 1: first we see a lot of buildings that are thirty

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Speaker 1: years old at the moment getting knocked over, and no one,

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Speaker 1: no one has that sort of attachment, and so it's

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Speaker 1: easy to bowl them over. But we don't let them.

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Speaker 1: We don't let them grow up, because the important thing

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Speaker 1: is we're not saving a building for us. Well we've

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Speaker 1: had our enjoyment of them. We're saving a building for

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Speaker 1: fifty years time. An't a year's time, and not too

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Speaker 1: many of us who think in that far in this future.

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Speaker 2: Well, some of the shows that you're featuring on your

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Speaker 2: program are those sort of modernist homes that don't appeal

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Speaker 2: to every body. That there are lots of geometric shapes

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Speaker 2: and things like that. They're probably the sort of homes

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Speaker 2: that if you bought that some people just knock it down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens a lot. They're a lot more popular

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Speaker 1: now than they used to be. Certainly over the last

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Speaker 1: five six years there's been a real estate agents have

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Speaker 1: been using it as a selling tool and because lots

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Speaker 1: of people have realized that they're fabulous places to live in.

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Speaker 1: But they also don't they don't show they're not as

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Speaker 1: big as what people think they want. And one of

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Speaker 1: the things we've found, I think in the last year,

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Speaker 1: of a lot of people being at home all the time,

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Speaker 1: but some things don't work as well if they like

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Speaker 1: they think they do. You know that if you've got

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Speaker 1: a big, open plan area at your house, is that

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Speaker 1: when you're trying to homeschool kids, to work from home

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Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff. Perhaps we need more

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Speaker 1: intimate spaces in our homes rather than these big areas.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're reconsidering everything at the moment.

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Speaker 3: I think they should bring back the a frame house.

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Speaker 3: Remember the a frame house in the sun, a frame

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Speaker 3: out with the tiles to the ground. There's one near

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Speaker 3: me and I look at it all the time and

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Speaker 3: I go, Please don't knock that a fro.

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Speaker 2: It's like a built up tepee.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. They were made for snow and we don't have

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Speaker 1: that much, not a lot of that.

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Speaker 3: Well, Tim, it's always great to talk to you. I'm

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Speaker 3: so glad we've got to catch up. You can catch

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Speaker 3: Designing a Legacy tonight eight thirty on the ABC. It's

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Speaker 3: not hosted by Arn Doe. It's hosted by Tim Ross.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Guys, Jonesy and Amanda's Samnation