1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: The Unplayable Podcast is proudly presented by quantas the official 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,399 Speaker 1: podcast partner and the official airline partner of Cricket Australia. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: Once again this season, Quantus is prouds Toby be flying 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Australia's cricketers as they take on the world. 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Young Playbole Podcast. 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: Australia have wrapped up the Ashes series with a three 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: nail victory inside eleven days, Lou. They won by eighty 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: two runs here today at the adelaide O. 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: Will. 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Took them until the middle session of the fifth day, 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: but they got there in the end, which Stark took 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: a couple towards the end to finally break the back 13 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: of their resistance and then Scott Bolland and Manas Laborshane 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: combined for the final wicket before jubilant celebrations from this 15 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: Aussie side. Lou. It's another great performance from this Australian 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: team and maybe their toughest winner of the series so far. 17 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: Maybe not. 18 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: There's a whole lot to beat quite possibly, and everyone's 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: you know, claiming the death of bads ball. Well I'm 20 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: actually saying this is a great day for England. This 21 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: was their best ever performance in Australia or best ever, 22 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 3: the best performance in Australia in their last eighteen goes 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 3: by margins of victory, and that just sounds what a 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 3: miserable time it's been for England in the Ashes. You know, 25 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: we heard so much chess beating about what this basball 26 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 3: brand was going to bring out to Australia. England coming 27 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: into this series through thirteen, fourteen, seventeen, eighteen, twenty one, 28 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: twenty two had never gotten within one hundred runs in 29 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: terms of the margin of victory, so their margins were 30 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: victory like two hundred runs, three hundred runs innings victories 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 3: and by wickets they'd never got within lower than eight 32 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: So Australia had never done worse than losing two wickets 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 3: in the chase. And today the margin was eighty two runs. 34 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: That's the first double digit loss margin they've had on 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: these shorts at sixteen losses out of eighteen their last 36 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: eighteen tests in Australia, and this was their best performance. 37 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 4: Can you believe that? I can't. 38 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: That is hard to believe, but also does probably back 39 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: up the fact that they have been so bad over 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: those last few tours. I thought you were going to 41 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: say it's a good day for English cricket because the 42 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: death of basball means that they something else can be 43 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: reborn and they could start a new passage. 44 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 4: From the ashes. 45 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, I mean there's so much, so much 46 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: metaphors you're can work with with ashes and stuff like that. 47 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 3: I mean, it was a really positive day. This is 48 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 3: probably their best test of the tour. I suppose they 49 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: showed the fight that Stokes wanted from them. You know, 50 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: you just go back to the first innings. They only 51 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: put up what was a two hundred and eighty six. 52 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: They got the bat during forty degree heat. 53 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: That's just not good enough. 54 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: And we're going to start. Can we start the pylon yet? 55 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: Because I'm ready, I'm equipped. I mean, Brendon McCallum's gone on, 56 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: you know, done some media after this and said, oh, look, 57 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: in hindsight, we probably weren't prepared that well. 58 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that may well be true. 59 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 3: But they've now played, you know, coming into this game, 60 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: they've now played two tests. They're get used to the conditions, 61 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: they maybe understand the bound a bit more. They're now 62 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: playing in conditions as extreme as Perth and Brisbane in 63 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: terms of the bounce and they put up two hundred 64 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: and eighty six, you know, batting the best conditions of 65 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: the series, and they'd lost you know six there was 66 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 3: six for one hundred and seventy hundred and eighty. Like 67 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: they're in a shocking position. So they'd had four they batters, 68 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 3: they had four innings to get used to things. Their 69 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: bowlers are the same, and they still kind of put up, 70 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: especially the batting group, still put up really poor performances. 71 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: You do wonder what would have happened if the series 72 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: started here in Adelaide, don't you if England came out 73 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: all guns blazing first test of the series here. But 74 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: they've gone into their shallow after those two losses. They've 75 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: asked for more fight and even Pat Cummen said that 76 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: he was happy that they batted slowly on that second 77 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: day and supreme heat, because if they were making it 78 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: was his run around in the field and chased leather, well, 79 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: it would have been even tougher for them in extreme conditions. 80 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: I think it's gotten to the point where they've second 81 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: guessed their methods so much that they're now triple guessing. 82 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah well there, yeah, quadruple guessing queintuple I mean, they 83 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: are not reacting the moment where they should be attacking. 84 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 4: They're going into their shells. 85 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: And that's been the most surprising bit is because they've 86 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: had these stepbacks went especially in Perth when they played 87 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: some some awful shots to kind of to lose that 88 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: series and then Bold Paul did it to Travis Head 89 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 3: on that last day, that second day. They now don't 90 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: know when to attack, and there have been moments that 91 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: that fourth morning in Brisbane or fourth afternoon in Brisbane 92 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: when they were way behind in the game, Ben Stokes 93 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: and Will Jacks block the crap out of it. Let's 94 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: be honest, that was a moment where they need to attack. 95 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 4: To get back in it. 96 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: And then you know the latter part of probably you know, 97 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: the middle part of day two that was that was 98 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: a time where they really could have got back into 99 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: it with by putting some pressure back on Australia against 100 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 3: an attack that had you know, Mitchell Stark and Scott 101 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: Bowland who were coming off pretty big workloads in the 102 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 3: first two tests, and Pat Cummins and Nathan Mind who bow. 103 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 4: Two hovers between them for the series. Easy said and done. 104 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: I know they were magnificent, you know, but England really 105 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: didn't fire a shot when the game counted, you know, 106 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: albeit a good a really fourth in exefit we've got to. 107 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: Say definitely Now the England pile on is fund but 108 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: we can circle back to it at the end. I 109 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: want to talk about Nathan Lyon. Obviously it was confirmed 110 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: that he's injured his hamstring today diving for a ball 111 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: down at fine leg. He got up and he sort 112 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: of threw the ball back in and then immediately clutched 113 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: at his right hand string, left the field on his 114 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: own accord, went down, got some scans pretty quickly, and 115 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: then the news came through, Yeah, also quite quickly that 116 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: it was a confirmed hamstring injury. It means that Boxing 117 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: Day and the Sydney Tests are definitely in doubt for him, 118 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: and it does beg the question who comes in as 119 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: the spinner? Now I've got some stats on the shield, 120 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: but what's your first thought of sort of thought straight 121 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: off the bat. 122 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, first thought is it really sucks for Nathan Lione, 123 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 3: a guy who felt like had shown in this test 124 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: that he hadn't lost any of the that beautiful stock delivery. 125 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: You know, when he gets in the right conditions, when 126 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 3: he gets on a strap, bouncy Australian wickeds, he can 127 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: be a real threat. He was fantastic, cracked the game 128 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: open for them. Late last night manus Lavishane said that 129 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: they don't win this Test potentially without him, so huge endorsement. 130 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: You know, he kind of shown if there were any doubts, 131 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 3: he kind of proved them wrong. He's mid spell bowling 132 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: to get Australia to the second new ball, and he 133 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: bowled more than fifty overs I think in the Test 134 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: by that point. That's when his his hamstring went kind 135 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 3: of an unusual one like often not a big soft 136 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: tissue expert, but I reckon it's often the ones we're 137 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: chasing balls to the boundary that you really extend the hamstrings, 138 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 3: especially with some fatigue, that's when they go. This was 139 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 3: a he had to kind of set off quickly quite late, 140 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: like it was he didn't have that far to go. 141 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 3: The ball went really fast to him down at fine 142 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: leg and he's made the stop and it's just kind 143 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: of gone in the dive potentially or as he's he's trying. 144 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 4: To dive. 145 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: Bigger picture, you wonder has he got the you know, 146 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: the if it is a really serious injury. Has he 147 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: got the appetite for a big rehab? Again, we know 148 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: he had the huge you know, i'd suspect it probably 149 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 3: wouldn't be as bad as the calf injury that he 150 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 3: did at Lord's two and a half years ago. 151 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 4: But you know, when you're thirty. 152 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: Eight going on thirty nine, it gets harder and harder 153 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: to come back from top tissues. So yeah, that's my 154 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: first question is, you know, does he have the appetite 155 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: to do that? We know he wants to get to 156 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven, and then yeah, the three spinners, I'm 157 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: interested to hear the numbers on who you've got in 158 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: line to replace him. 159 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: Well, if we just look at the injury in terms 160 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: of football terms, I mean, it's not like for lack 161 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: of course, but. 162 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 4: That's always how I think of injuries just as a rule. 163 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, hamstring injuries are generally between 164 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: three to four weeks, so it's not as if they're 165 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: on the longer end of things. So hopefully it's not 166 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: too bad and he can be back bowling by the 167 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: end of the summer. But we'll just have to wait 168 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: and see whon't we on that front? In terms of 169 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: the Sheffield Chield numbers a bit skewed because some players 170 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: have played more matches than others, but Corey Rocacola he's 171 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: played six matches and taken twenty wickets at twenty eight, 172 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: so that's probably the best record of the group. Todd 173 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: Murphy's also bowled well from what I've seen this season 174 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: so far, he's got ten wickets at twenty three from 175 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: four matches. And then Matthew Cuoneman, who's been the go 176 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: to in subcontinental conditions. He's only played the two matches 177 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: for Tazzi so far their season, taken four wickets at 178 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: thirty six. And then in terms of pure numbers, Mitch 179 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: Swepson has the most out of all spinners in the 180 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: tournament at the minute twenty one at thirty six. 181 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: He's played all six matches to day. 182 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well ten of those came here at the Adelaide Oval, 183 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: so he might be thinking that the injury came one 184 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 3: Test too late for him. 185 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 4: He would be a long shot. You know. 186 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: They like the control that finger spinners offers, so it 187 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: probably narrows it down to the other three Rocket Rollie Murphy, Koneman. 188 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 4: I mean, they all in their own. 189 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 3: Respects have having a strong case to kind of make 190 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: and you wouldn't really surprise you to see any three 191 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 3: of them from a pure Test numbers point of view. 192 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: Coneman's the guy right like he took sixteen wickets bowling 193 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: with a broken thumb in Sri Lannka this year in 194 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 3: turning conditions. If you were if you're playing at the 195 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: Whacker or you know, potentially per stadium, I think Rocket 196 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 3: Cholie would would probably be your guy. Phenomenal record bowling 197 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: on bouncy wickets over in the West, and I think 198 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: he's held his own kind of around the country as well. 199 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: Would have to kind of dig into the numbers with him. 200 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: And then then Murphy looks like he the stuff I've 201 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: seen from him as a you know, I'm a Melbourne guy. 202 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: I go down to the junction over to watch him bowl, 203 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: probably a bit more, see him a bit more than 204 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: the other guys, and he looks to have gotten something 205 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 3: back that I reckon he lost a little bit probably 206 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: in the in the years I'm just trying to get 207 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: my timelines, but in the years after the twenty twenty 208 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: three ashes, when he played two Tests when line was out, 209 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: I think he did a phenomenal job in that series 210 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: standing up for line and he's had some shoulder problems 211 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 3: over the last season or two in the in the 212 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: Sheffield Shield, but he's looked like he's right back to 213 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 3: his best for Victoria. And you know, only ten wickets 214 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: but a really good average. I reckon, he's economy rate 215 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: would be really good and he's done really well on 216 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: what are mostly fast bowling friendly wickets. So I could 217 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: I could see them going any of any of three ways. 218 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: I reckon, is there a chance that they bring a 219 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: couple into the squad just to cover all bases, depending 220 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: because they might not know what they're going to get 221 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: at the MCG And. 222 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah potentially right, Like would you and would 223 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: you even look at what England have done and look 224 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: to getting a guy who none of those guys are batters, right, 225 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: All those guys are frontline spinners England. You know, if 226 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: England had kind of gotten over the line today with 227 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 3: you know, the way will Jack spattered, they might have 228 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: been telling everyone that you know, look we told you so, 229 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: like playing a batter at yea an all rounder at 230 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: number eight was the way to go. Who would be 231 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: in the conversation if they wanted, you know, a number 232 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: eight and he's the one who can. 233 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 4: Of course he is for you. 234 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: I mean Cooper Connelly played a Test match earlier this year, 235 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 3: He's had a phenomenal start to the Big Bash season. 236 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: He'd be a guy they'd probably look at for that 237 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 3: role out. I think it'd be unlikely. I think it 238 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: probably raised the prospect. They've already done it once in 239 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: this yeraries are potentially playing four quicks again in Melbourne 240 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 3: as potential. I mean that Wicked has been a real 241 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: seema in recent times. It's not the not the flat 242 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: thing that we our English friends that have seen on 243 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: previous to us. Although the first I reckon the almost 244 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: the start of this seeming pictures era was that scott 245 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 3: Bowland Test where it was England lost within two and 246 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: a half days. So yeah, you'd think they I think 247 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: the style of this Australian team is to pick the 248 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: guy they think will play or think will be you know, 249 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: we'll play if they do pick a spinner, and they 250 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: probably don't want the drama of you know, if it 251 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 3: was a rocket Trollie and Murphy and those two bowling 252 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 3: in tandem and the drama around who's going to get picked. 253 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 3: I think they'd like to avoid that kind of thing, and. 254 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: The for use last year's boxing their test when right 255 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: until the end of day five didn't that, so it 256 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: looked like it might happen here as well as will 257 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: Jackson Jamie Smith. In a bit today, Smith got on 258 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: a run as he passed fifty, hit four fours in 259 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: a row and then was out trying to hit a 260 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: fifth basically straight up in the air off Stark caught 261 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: by Cummings and that was the one that sort of 262 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: broke the Kemel's back. It all happened pretty quickly after that. 263 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: It was a long partnership between those two. After we 264 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: had a bit of rain here this morning, pat Comes 265 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: admitted that he did his mind did wander too previous 266 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: times when the England batters have got away, so I'm 267 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: sure he would have been as relieved as anyone to 268 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: hold onto that catch. 269 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: At mid on. 270 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: He said his mind went back to Lord's, didn't he, 271 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: and that he had to remind himself that when Lyne 272 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 3: went down at Lord's and they were without their front 273 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: line spinner, that they actually did win that best despite 274 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: Stokes playing one of the best easily the best innings 275 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: in a losing cause I've ever seen it. Yeah, I 276 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: mean it was some guys for England have been under 277 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: the pump, right. Jamie Smith hasn't had a great tour. 278 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: I think he was averaging fifteen coming into this innings. 279 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: He easily had his best knock of the series will Jack. 280 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: So I think he's been really solid with the bad 281 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 3: and I reckon, you know, going forward for them, can 282 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 3: you get him up the order because he's performing a 283 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: lot better than some of the some of the other 284 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: guys in that lineup. And then Broaden Cass, who you 285 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: know might have been thinking I might actually go even 286 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: below Josh Archer after the way archerbat it in the 287 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,359 Speaker 3: first innings and his bowling has been under the microscope 288 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: as well well. 289 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 4: He was fantastic. Yeah. 290 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: Smith and Jack's put on ninety one together and you know, 291 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 3: just played it beautifully like they saw off that that 292 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 3: early little bit where Australia were just kind of plugging 293 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 3: time essentially to get to the second U ball, and 294 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: then they played it sensibly and then Smith kind of 295 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: sensed his opportunity when Stark can come and come back 296 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: on and you realize they're going to be They might 297 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: be a little bit wayward, or you might be able 298 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 3: to bash him off their length given how many overs 299 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 3: they'd bowled in the Test, and yeah, played it pretty 300 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 3: well until he just went for one too many off 301 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 3: off Mitchell Stark. But really, yeah, it's very hard to 302 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: be critical of those guys. Those they if they you know, 303 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: if Jamie Smith and Will actually kind of come together 304 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: when they needed one hundred left around two hundred and 305 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: fifty or whatever it was the other night, then England 306 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: would have been right in with the shop. 307 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: That's a good point, Will jacks He's now faced the 308 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: sixth most deliveries in the series, even though he missed 309 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: the first test, so amazing time at the crease from him. 310 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: Does beg the question, and we have touched on it 311 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: a bit, how do England reshape that top seven if 312 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: they dare tinker with it, because they've only got really 313 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: Jacob Bethel in reserve here in the squad to come in, 314 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: and maybe Will Jackson's putting his hand up to say, well, 315 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: I can bat in the top seven and then you 316 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: can bring in potentially Bisheer or another Seema or someone else. 317 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: But they have to change something eventually, because they haven't 318 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: moved to that top seven at all. 319 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: Three out down. You have to change something now. 320 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 4: You would think so, Yeah, you would think so. 321 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: I mean it's hard to see how they keep going 322 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: back to the well with some of these guys. I mean, 323 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: the one who's going just as bout as bad as anyone's, 324 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 3: Ben Duckett. I think his averages down to fifteen or 325 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: sixteen huge surprise to me. I thought he could really 326 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: threaten in these conditions. 327 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 2: And a couple of drop catches in Brusberg rather. 328 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, he seemed like the much more 329 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: solid opening option out of those that will. Crawley has 330 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: shown great growth, as we spoke on yesterday's podcast, and 331 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: Ducket's kind of the winder everyone gets into Olipope from 332 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: the English side. I don't think he's going any worse 333 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: than say Harry brook. Yes, he's got a few more 334 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: runs on the overall tally, but you know his dismissal 335 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: is any more frustrating the Brooks, you know, I don't 336 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: think so. I think, yeah, you've got to be looking 337 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: at Jack's in potentially you know, a five or a 338 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: six six spot. The way Stokes is battered. It would 339 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: be asking so much of him, but he would be 340 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: the perfect number three. I think the way he's kind 341 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: of operating at the moment, he would, you know, just 342 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: just a settled the fact that Duck one of duck 343 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: at or Crawley is basically always going out in the 344 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: first few overs, combined with having just a jack in 345 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: the box Olipope who looks you know, just doesn't look 346 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: he hasn't really looked like it, and even when he 347 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: kind of has looked a bit like it, you know, 348 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: if he gets it, gets an awesome ball from Pat Comings, 349 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: I just think that that Stokes will be a better 350 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: option there, But it's asking so much of a guy 351 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: who bowls as many overs as he does. You know, 352 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: Jacob Bethel is kind of a guy they've they've shielded 353 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: from County cricket over the year. This year I'm talking 354 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: about and you know he has his cricket gone forward 355 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: since they kind of identified him. You know, big question 356 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: mark there never made a first class hundred. Missed a 357 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: chance to do that in the A game the other day. 358 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, you're buttressing your top order with a guy 359 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: who hasn't made a first class hundred. That's seems remarkable 360 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: to me that he's there one backup better? Right? 361 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. So we'll wait and see. Because's not 362 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: long until that boxing day test begins, in fact only 363 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: five days, so they will have to quickly shuffle the 364 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: deck chairs and something that Australia did quite well. So 365 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: they shuffled their slips called in deck chairs and this 366 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: test match, didn't they know? Steve smith Manus Labershane took 367 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: the spot at second slip and he took another worthy today? 368 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: Was this better or worse than yesterday? 369 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 4: I think the one yesterday just shades it. Okay, what 370 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 4: do you think? 371 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: Well? This one, I don't know because he's so far forward. 372 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: It's rare that you see your first slip, take it 373 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: in front of the keeper, isn't it? And carry I 374 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: think would have probably snaffled it up, but you never 375 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: know once it flies past. I think I'm giving it 376 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: to yesterday, just a bit lower to the ground and 377 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: maybe went a little bit quicker the moment. 378 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this was a kind of catch like 379 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: of a guy on a heater, like I reckon if 380 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: he hadn't taken. 381 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 4: The one the previous day. 382 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 3: In his mind he would have gone, oh, Kerry's got that, 383 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: like this is a brand new ball. 384 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. The difference was here he was standing. 385 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: At a wider first rather than second the second, where 386 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 3: for the other one, which would have been diving in 387 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: front of it, wouldn't have made it to Nudger. So 388 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: I think if he hadn't taken the previous one, he 389 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 3: would have known, oh, that's going to carry, I'll leave it, 390 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: and Kerry had it covered. You see the replay and 391 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 3: he's right there red to catch it. But because you 392 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 3: had taken that other one, it was just like, no, 393 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 3: I've got this. My left hand is absolutely on fire. 394 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 3: And yeah, incredible formance. I mean, they stood up as 395 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 3: well as they possibly could of in the absence of 396 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 3: Smith in the court and with the bat, Cowadra has 397 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: made a really strong case to play for the rest 398 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: of the series. I think, you know, the big question 399 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 3: marks over how he was going to go in this series, 400 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 3: given how he's gone against high pace coming into this 401 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: into this tour, you know, massive tick and I think, yeah, 402 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 3: it's gonna be hard for them to leave him out 403 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 3: when when Smith comes back. 404 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: And they're bowling takes not getting any quicker at this 405 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: stage of the series either is it. So there's also 406 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: that factor as well, especially with Mark Wood ruled out, 407 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: so it wasn't a good chance to play, he would 408 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: assume now, Lou, the series is all wrapped up in 409 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: eleven days, which is the fastest and ashes series has 410 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: been decided nineteen fifty one or nineteen fifty and fifty one, 411 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: which you said you love that series, and then there 412 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: was also the two thousand and two three series, both 413 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: victories to Australia. Where does this team rank and this 414 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: performance rank in terms of actually series gone by, because 415 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: it's rare that things get wrapped up this quickly, even 416 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: though it's a familiar sort of script to do it 417 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: at this rate, Well, it's sort of unchartted territory. 418 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, you look back at that twenty thirteen to fourteen 419 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 3: team is probably the obvious comparison at this point if 420 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 3: you think that they might be on track for a whitewash. 421 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: I mean, the bowling attack was just so settled during 422 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 3: that third and fourteen one like you have it. You 423 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: had a younger Nathan Lyon just really starting to hit 424 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: his straps, Mitchell Johnson on the all time heater Harris 425 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 3: and Peter Siddle. 426 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 4: As Harris was great in that series, but you know, 427 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 4: just four bowl was no real all rounder from what. 428 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: Pay a little bit, but the whole team didn't change 429 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: the whole series. 430 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 4: That was pretty remarkable. 431 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: Whereas you know, Australia have had fourteen to fifteen guys 432 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 3: play already, They've had I think six guys who have 433 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 3: taken five plus wickets in the series already. 434 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 2: Wow. 435 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, compared to that thirteen to fourteen when just four 436 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: guys basically played the whole series. 437 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 4: So you know, the batting, I just think like the 438 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 4: batting is still. 439 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: Hasn't clicked for this Australian team and keep saying it, 440 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 3: but I just don't think they're not a world class 441 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: batting unit. They are a world class bowling unit and 442 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: the batters are just doing enough. 443 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 4: So look, let's give them the full series. 444 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: Let's see if the batters can really hit their straps 445 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 3: in Melbourne and Sydney. Until that happens, I'd say that 446 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: they're not quite one of the great Australian teams because 447 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: this is far from a great English team. Like it's 448 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: hard to overstate how disappointed we all are with what 449 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 3: they dished up so far on this tour all right, Well, 450 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 3: we better circle back at the end of the series 451 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: just to see how the Ossies are doing. 452 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: It's a three no lead to Australia and the Asher 453 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: series move on to Melbourne and we'll catch you soon 454 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: on the Unplayable podcast.