1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda gem. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Nation, editor of The Daily Oz, Emma Gillespie is here. Hello, Emma, Well, Hello. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 3: A sad one to talk about today. The world is 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 3: mourning the loss of former One Direction bandmate Liam Payne, 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 3: the thirty one year old singer who was found dead 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 3: last week outside of buanas Are's hotel. He fell from 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 3: a third floor balcony. His father, Jeff has arrived there 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: this morning or overnight to arrange the repatriation of his 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 3: son's body and Liem will be taken back to the UK. 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 3: Such a sad story, but a really developing one. Lots 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: of details emerging in the days since. We've heard an 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: emergency phone calls that's been leaked a member of the 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: hotel staff that reached out to the authorities and described 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 3: an intoxicated guest. He was apparently breaking everything in his room, 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: and this hotel staffer said that, you know, we're scared 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: that he might harm himself. His room has a balcony 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: in the likes, etc. A little bit of background on 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 3: One Direction, even though Jones, I know you're all over 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: it because I'm d is your favorite band, which famously 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: is your favorite band. They formed in twenty ten on 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,279 Speaker 3: the set of The X Factor in Britain. The X Factor, 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 3: which was created by Simon Cowell. He has spoken out 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: about the band its success and the loss of Liam. 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 3: He's devastated, says his heartbroken. All of the band members, 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: you know, including Harry Styles, have all made statements on 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: the Instagram talking about Payne's talent, the joy that he brought, 27 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: the way that he made other people happy. Zaan Malix 28 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: one of the former bandmates. He's postponed his US tour. 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 3: X Factor Britain have actually delayed their next auditions for 30 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 3: their forthcoming season. So a lot of sort of showbiz 31 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 3: disruptions there, But I wanted to talk a bit about 32 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: the kind of media fallout surrounding a bit of the 33 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: reporting of this death. Cheryl Cole, you might know her 34 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: as a Girl's a loud singer or Cheryl Tweety. She 35 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: was with Liam Payne a few years ago and they've 36 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: got a child together, unbear, who's now seven years old. 37 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: She put a statement out on Instagram and said she 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: was really troubled by the reports and the media exploitation 39 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: that we'd seen in recent days that you know, one 40 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: day her son would have access to that information. She said, 41 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: I'm begging you to consider what the use of some 42 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: of these reports are serving, other than to cause further 43 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 3: harm to everyone left behind. Before you leave comments or 44 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: make videos, ask yourself if you would like your own 45 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: child or family to read them. Now. I don't know 46 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: if you guys have been across this, but TMZ posted 47 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: these really graphic images and videos. After lim Payne died. 48 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 3: There was a video circulating of his fall. There were 49 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: close up images of his body on the ground. 50 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: Because I heard that that wasn't real. Well, who would know, 51 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: who would know? 52 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: Well, who would know exactly? Apparently it was real, But 53 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: I think the idea that it could be just a 54 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: kid scrolling on TikTok and you see video of a 55 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: pop star you've idolized your whole life dying. 56 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: It's really And the way social media turned on him 57 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: because he was at the concert supporting Nigel Horan, was 58 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: it nil? Yeah, and so but everyone saying, oh, look 59 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: at him, he's making it all about him because he's 60 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: dancing along, and then after his death, Rone's gone, oh 61 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: that's so sweet. 62 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 3: It's the internet is a nutfest. 63 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'd see not just that. I was just going 64 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: to say what. There's been some fallout too for Simon Cowell, 65 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: people saying that this guy sat back. He said, apparently 66 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: recently in an interview, his only regret was that he didn't 67 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: register or own the band name One Direction. He manipulated, well, 68 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: this is the inference he's worked them, made them too, 69 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. But where is the backup mental 70 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: health for these young men. 71 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is really interesting because a big music industry 72 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: name has come out and said that under eighteen year 73 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: old should not be allowed to join pop bands. This 74 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: guy called Guy Chambers. He's a songwriter and friend of 75 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: Robbie Williams. He's written some of Robbie Williams' biggest hits. 76 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: He has called on the industry to hold back from 77 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: working with talent underage. So Liam Payne was sixteen when 78 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: he auditioned for the season The X Factor when why. 79 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: We there was actually fourteen when he first went on us. 80 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he first auditioned at age fourteen, and that's when 81 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: Simon caw told him you're really talented, but it's not 82 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: the right time, please come back. And he did come back, 83 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: and you know that fateful audition and you know the 84 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: music industry in the world was never the same. But 85 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: I thought this idea was really interesting. You know, we're 86 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: kind of talking so much more and more about young 87 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: people's access to social media and what the modern world 88 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 3: does to young developing brains. And I hadn't really thought 89 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: about it that way. But we know child fame can 90 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: screw up so many people. 91 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: That's right, And football clubs now are looking at the 92 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: mental health of their young players and a short lived 93 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: career in how he helped someone sustain themselves through the 94 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: big fame and the big money. But we absolutely need 95 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: to do it with young performers too. 96 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it's interesting Guy Chambers that Robbie 97 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: Williams made, he said, you know, it has been a 98 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: long time since the band was formed, but he doesn't 99 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: see that much has changed in the industry and not 100 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: much more real care being taken to look after the 101 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 3: kids involved in these big talent shows. 102 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: But look at the Beatles was the same. They're all kids, yeah, 103 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,119 Speaker 2: and they all hung around John Lennon. When you really 104 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 2: look at the Beatles, he was like nineteen. George Harrison 105 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: was fourteen, so it's fourteen. I hang around with nineteen year. 106 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: Social media has just blown it all up to another level, 107 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: the level of fame and visibility, even lots of videos 108 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 3: of li and pain in the lead up to his death. 109 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 3: That's so distressing. You can tell he wasn't well anyway, 110 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: very very sad, and millions of people sort of connecting 111 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: around the world over their grief. 112 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: So well, Amanda's put a floral tube tribute in the 113 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: studio here. 114 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, Amanda. It's actually it's my chewing gump. 115 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: It's a chewing gum and a kid cup. 116 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: But nonetheless the words of one direction, Amanda, that's what's 117 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 3: what makes you beautiful. 118 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: That is thank you. 119 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: Check her out of The Daily Oz