WEBVTT - Ivy’s sleep + feed routine 🍼 how Ivy has slept 12hrs a night by 12 weeks old

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<v Speaker 1>Before her routine, Ivy was not a happy baby. She

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<v Speaker 1>was honestly very grumpy. She was colloquy, she cried all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and all all that went away when we

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<v Speaker 1>put her in this sleep and feed routine.

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<v Speaker 2>And Welcome back to the Rise and Conquered Podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>your host, Georgie Stevenson, former lawyer turned entrepreneur, social media

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do this. Hello and welcome back to the Rise

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<v Speaker 1>and Conker Podcast. It is your host, Georgie Stevenson and

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<v Speaker 1>I have another mum potty for you guys. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>that it has been a lot of mum content but

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<v Speaker 1>as you guys know, I'm a new mum and it's

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<v Speaker 1>literally my life right now, and as we are planning

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<v Speaker 1>for the next season and oh my god, planning some

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<v Speaker 1>very very exciting things, I just wanted to bring you

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<v Speaker 1>this content here and now, you know, while it's at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of my brain and fairly and really relevant

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<v Speaker 1>for me and I. So yeah, let's get straight into

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. And this is a much requested episode about

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<v Speaker 1>Ivy's sleep and feed routine. So before we do get

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<v Speaker 1>into it, a little disclaimer is obviously I am not

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<v Speaker 1>a professional. I am simply just explaining to you guys

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<v Speaker 1>what we are doing with our baby and the advice

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<v Speaker 1>I have received from a professional sleep consultant and the

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<v Speaker 1>resources we're using, you know, like like I say in

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<v Speaker 1>all my episodes, like this is just me telling you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess why I'm kind of putting that disclaimer

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<v Speaker 1>in is I didn't realize this, but like routines for

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<v Speaker 1>newborns is a bit of a polarizing issue. Like when

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<v Speaker 1>I first spoke about it on my Instagram, I didn't realize,

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<v Speaker 1>but I got a lot of comments like you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be putting a newborn on a routine, and yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>realized that there's two camps. And it's like you're either

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<v Speaker 1>for the routine or you're someone who doesn't like routine

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<v Speaker 1>for newborn. And I'm just of the view that everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>parenthood and motherhood journey is different and valid. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>every human is different, every baby is different. And as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you're doing what works for you, as long

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<v Speaker 1>as you're happy your baby's happy, I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>like totally fine. So if you know, if you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this and you do not agree, that is so fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I'm not saying this is the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing you should do. I'm just simply saying this is

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<v Speaker 1>what we did. And to be completely honest, I am

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<v Speaker 1>someone who loves routine. I am, you know, a tiepai person.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a bit of a control freak. And the first

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<v Speaker 1>six like, if you haven't already listened to my episode,

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<v Speaker 1>the first six weeks, it is the most intense shocking thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a death of yourself. And I found that

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<v Speaker 1>this routine for Ivy and me has made me such

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<v Speaker 1>a happier mum and honestly has made Ivy such a

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<v Speaker 1>happier baby. I'll get into it. But before her routine,

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<v Speaker 1>Ivy was not a happy baby. She was honestly very grumpy.

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<v Speaker 1>She was collar quy, she cried all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>all all that went away when we put her in

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<v Speaker 1>this sleep and feed routine. And I honestly think it's

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<v Speaker 1>because she was either hungry or she was overtired. Poor

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<v Speaker 1>girl was not sleeping enough for sure, because yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't know how to self soothe. And when she

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<v Speaker 1>started sleeping more and getting more sleep, she literally changed. Guys, like,

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<v Speaker 1>she is such happy baby, and sleep for babies is

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<v Speaker 1>so important for their brain development. So yeah, anyway, long

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<v Speaker 1>story short, let's get into so the reason that I

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<v Speaker 1>had kind of heard of routines because I come from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like my mom had four babies and she

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<v Speaker 1>had you know, she was a stay at home mom,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was very of the view of, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sleep and feeding on demand and doing things that way.

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<v Speaker 1>And I only sort of knew about routines because a

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend gave me a book called I think It's like

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<v Speaker 1>the Baby Bible, and it's by Rebecca Judd, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>got four kids and she wrote a book about pregnancy

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<v Speaker 1>and babies. And I remember in that book what And

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<v Speaker 1>I read this while I was pregnant. Definitely a good book,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there was kind of stuff in there which I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really agree with, but anyway, it was a good book.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember her in that book saying she put

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<v Speaker 1>her firstborn like she got help from a sleep consultant

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<v Speaker 1>and she put her firstborn on a routine at six weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>And by the time he was twelve weeks, he was

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping seven seven pm to seven am, like twelve hours,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought, holy crap, that's incredible, and I remembered that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when Ivy was eight weeks. Also another popular

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<v Speaker 1>influencer I follow, savann Ahla. She also has two babies

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<v Speaker 1>and spoke about them being on routine since they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, come straight from the hospital, and how amazing

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<v Speaker 1>it was for their sleep and just their routine. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had those ideas floating in my head and so

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<v Speaker 1>let's chat about what kind of made me go to this.

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<v Speaker 1>So at eight weeks, Ivy was just a man feeding

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<v Speaker 1>and sleeping through the night. She would wake usually every

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<v Speaker 1>three hours, so you know, it was like six pm,

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<v Speaker 1>we would feed her, put her down than nine pm.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she would have a longer stretch till maybe two am,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she would get up again at five am.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you can imagine like when you were getting

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<v Speaker 1>up that amount of times per night, like your brain

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<v Speaker 1>is just not functioning. And even I had Tim helping

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<v Speaker 1>me doing a bottle some of those feeds, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just it was wild and I just thought, surely,

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought, is there a better way? Like I

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of losing my mind a bit with the

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<v Speaker 1>no sleep because I just, yeah, it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot for us. And I found, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sleeping, I was quite I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>say unhappy, but when you're not sleeping, you obviously don't

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<v Speaker 1>have full capacity. You're not functioning. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just harder to do life. Like I found that

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<v Speaker 1>me and Tim were fighting a lot, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>it felt really hard. And also she just was not

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<v Speaker 1>a happy baby. She was crying all the time, like

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<v Speaker 1>she just Ivy did not seem good. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>saying to Tim, I feel like something is wrong. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we're doing things wrong. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>control freaking me was like, I need to sort this

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<v Speaker 1>out because I see other people with their baby sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>through and sleeping longer periods and just being a lot happier,

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<v Speaker 1>and so yeah, I want to kind of get into this.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I remember I went back to that book,

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<v Speaker 1>The Baby Bible, when Rebecca was talking about like her

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<v Speaker 1>routine and whatnot, and one of like a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>advice in there she said, one piece of advice I'd

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<v Speaker 1>give you is if your baby isn't sleeping like, go

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<v Speaker 1>and help from a professional. It will be the best

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<v Speaker 1>thing you do. And so I thought, that's it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna like, I'm gonna seek help from a professional. So

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<v Speaker 1>I found one and I will put her details in

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<v Speaker 1>the show notes. Her name is Susie and let me

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<v Speaker 1>just let me look at my last invoice from her

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<v Speaker 1>so I can see where she's from. So she's from

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Baby Consultancy and she is Brisbane based. I'll put

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<v Speaker 1>her details in the show notes and I just like

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<v Speaker 1>text her. We jumped on a call and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just such a relief because she she explained so many

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<v Speaker 1>things to me where she was like, you know, babies

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<v Speaker 1>biologically should feed and sleep and they should know basically

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<v Speaker 1>what to do. And at this point to oh this, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I missed a whole part of this story. So a

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<v Speaker 1>big part was so Ivy would sleep in a cop

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<v Speaker 1>by herself during the night, which was really good, and

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<v Speaker 1>we would obviously just get up to feed her every

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<v Speaker 1>three hours, which was still painful, but you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>were getting little bits of sleep, but through the day

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<v Speaker 1>just because like from when she was a newborn, we

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<v Speaker 1>would just kind of carry her around, you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you do with a little baby, And what we

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<v Speaker 1>were finding at eight weeks is she just wouldn't sleep

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<v Speaker 1>through the day unless she was on you, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it was just really hard because me and Tim were like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't get anything done. So if I was home

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<v Speaker 1>alone with Ivy, you literally couldn't really get anything done

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<v Speaker 1>during the day. And obviously vice versa if Tim was

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<v Speaker 1>at home with Ivy and I was just like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, like yeah, it was just a lot, very

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<v Speaker 1>very clingy. And she also wouldn't go to sleep unless

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<v Speaker 1>she was like yeah, on me or being rocked to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember I just like I felt super anxious

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<v Speaker 1>all the time because it's like you never knew how

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<v Speaker 1>long it would take to get her to sleep, and

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<v Speaker 1>then she was not sleeping more than forty five minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like a sleep cycle for newborns. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like this. It was a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, I feel like there is a

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<v Speaker 1>better way, and I had my first consult with Susie,

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<v Speaker 1>and guys, this is not you know, sponsored or anything

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<v Speaker 1>at all paid for Susie's services, and holly shit, best

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<v Speaker 1>thing I do, but best thing I did, Like that book.

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<v Speaker 1>The best advice I can give you is if your

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<v Speaker 1>baby is not sleeping for more than forty five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>through the day, like they can't link their sleep cycles,

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<v Speaker 1>or they're not sleeping through the night, like, just get

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<v Speaker 1>some professional help, because it literally if you want, it

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<v Speaker 1>literally changed the game for us. So basically, just to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, bring it back to the present day. After

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks of Ivy being on this feed and sleep routine,

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<v Speaker 1>she was sleeping from her nine thirty feet till seven

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<v Speaker 1>am in the morning, and then just recently in the

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<v Speaker 1>last week, she is now sleeping seven pm till seven

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<v Speaker 1>am and we have to go in and wake her

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<v Speaker 1>up at seven am, like she's just sleeping so well.

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<v Speaker 1>And then throughout the day she has two one and

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<v Speaker 1>a half to two hour naps and one forty five

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<v Speaker 1>minute nap in the afternoon, so she is like getting

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<v Speaker 1>all her sleeps in. And she was a baby who

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<v Speaker 1>did not sleep much when she was a newborn, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly think that's why she was so grumpy, because

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<v Speaker 1>she was like overtired all the time and she really

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<v Speaker 1>needed help, you know, to get to sleep. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie, guys, it was a little tough getting

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<v Speaker 1>her into this routine. So it was definitely a tough

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<v Speaker 1>you know, two to three weeks. The biggest kind of

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<v Speaker 1>advice that we got from this sleep consultant was if

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<v Speaker 1>you want your baby to sleep well during the night,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to make sure they're getting all their food

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<v Speaker 1>during the day. So I just used to leave Ivy

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<v Speaker 1>until she told me she was hungry, whereas now she

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<v Speaker 1>feeds at certain times of the day and I basically

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<v Speaker 1>know that she's getting all her calories in during the day,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why she can sustain that twelve hour nap.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean sleep well, it's definitely not an app And

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<v Speaker 1>then another thing too is sleep breed sleep Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>the saying the consult said, And basically I realize if

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<v Speaker 1>Ivy is sleep during the day isn't good, her sleep

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<v Speaker 1>at night isn't good. So when she sleeps, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>quite good during the day and we make sure she's

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<v Speaker 1>like not overtime and she's getting her naps, she sleeps

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<v Speaker 1>even better at night. And it's weird because you would think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>if she sleeps all day, she's not gonna sleep all night,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's the opposite. If she sleeps all day, she

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<v Speaker 1>sleeps all night. Whereas if she has like, yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of an unsettled day, will notice, it's so much

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<v Speaker 1>harder to get her to bed. So basically some things

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<v Speaker 1>that helped us was her awake windows. And there's also

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<v Speaker 1>this really great resource called what what Baby like WoT

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<v Speaker 1>baby and that stands for windows of time. You can

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<v Speaker 1>find them on Instagram. And also really good resource I

0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.800
<v Speaker 1>found on Instagram was the Sleep Teacher. Both of those

0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.360
<v Speaker 1>were good, but like I said, I got an actual

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<v Speaker 1>sleep consultant who worked with me in Ivy personally, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was it was a game changer to actually have

0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.120
<v Speaker 1>someone you know, texting Ivy's just working up. Should I

0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.120
<v Speaker 1>go and resettle her or should I leave? Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically the biggest thing that we notice is her

0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.760
<v Speaker 1>windows of time. So Ivy was eating and then she

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<v Speaker 1>would stay awake for like two hours before we would

0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.400
<v Speaker 1>try and get her to sleep, and by that time

0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.840
<v Speaker 1>she was overtired and it would be even harder to

0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.840
<v Speaker 1>get her to sleep. So now her a wake windows

0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.960
<v Speaker 1>during the day are an hour and fifteen minutes from

0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the time she woke up to an hour and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>And like I said, if we put her to bed

0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.640
<v Speaker 1>any later than this, it's harder to get her to sleep.

0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:37.120
<v Speaker 1>So really tightening up those awake windows and making sure

0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.720
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0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.960
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<v Speaker 1>feed times and whatnot. So that's like, for example, if

0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.680
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<v Speaker 1>now let's get back into today's episode. So basically, if she,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, only has a forty five minute nap and

0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.320
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't resettle, we would only keep her for a

0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.200
<v Speaker 1>wake for forty five minutes and then we would put

0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.600
<v Speaker 1>her back down to sleep and so on. So if

0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.439
<v Speaker 1>she sleeps the full an hour and a half to

0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.480
<v Speaker 1>two hours, we then keep her up for the hour

0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.639
<v Speaker 1>and you know a half, But otherwise, if it's shorter,

0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.280
<v Speaker 1>we match her nap to how long we keep her up.

0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:32.879
<v Speaker 1>We also feed her every four hours, but we she

0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:36.439
<v Speaker 1>has like quite She's actually fully bottle fed now, and

0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:41.360
<v Speaker 1>that's because Ivy started refusing the boob at eight weeks,

0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.119
<v Speaker 1>which was a little bit sad for me, but you know,

0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.440
<v Speaker 1>it's Ivy's well, it's what she wanted, and I honestly

0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:51.720
<v Speaker 1>think that's because we did introduce the bottle so early.

0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:55.720
<v Speaker 1>But in saying that, we you know, I am back

0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.200
<v Speaker 1>to work and Ivy is only three months old, so

0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit hard because we knew that Ivy

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<v Speaker 1>would need to take the bottle because our plan was

0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:08.119
<v Speaker 1>always Tim would spend this year at home with Ivy

0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and I would go back to work. So of course

0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.960
<v Speaker 1>we need her to take the bottle. So yeah, she's

0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.040
<v Speaker 1>fully bottle fed now. So it does make it a

0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:19.800
<v Speaker 1>bit easier for us because we know exactly how much

0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:23.600
<v Speaker 1>she's getting. So this is another thing with resettling. Like

0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I said, Ivy wasn't sleeping for longer than forty five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes at a time, and she would wake up and

0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.920
<v Speaker 1>cry and we would pick her up. So what we

0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:37.679
<v Speaker 1>now do and she fully knows how to self settle,

0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:41.480
<v Speaker 1>So basically our routine is we put her down in

0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:45.879
<v Speaker 1>the cot, fully awake. You know, we make sure we

0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:49.320
<v Speaker 1>fully prime the environment. So we put her little glow

0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:52.760
<v Speaker 1>dreaming light on, she has a sound machine. We put

0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:56.240
<v Speaker 1>her in a sleepsack, we have blockout blinds. We put

0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:59.199
<v Speaker 1>her in her cot and we say, Nana, Ivy, this

0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:03.040
<v Speaker 1>is during the day, and she goes in her cot

0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:07.080
<v Speaker 1>fully awake, and we simply leave the room and we

0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:11.119
<v Speaker 1>let her. We let her put herself to sleep. Because

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<v Speaker 1>basically what was happening is before we were completely putting

0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:19.120
<v Speaker 1>her to sleep. So we would rock her, we would

0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:23.480
<v Speaker 1>bounce her, we would do all those things get her

0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:27.080
<v Speaker 1>to sleep, and then like carefully put her in the cot.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what she would do is she would wake

0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.760
<v Speaker 1>up after one sleep cycle. And because when she went

0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.680
<v Speaker 1>to sleep, I was there, we were rocking her, we

0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:37.800
<v Speaker 1>were comforting her. When she would wake up and we

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<v Speaker 1>weren't there, she wouldn't link her sleep cycles and she

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<v Speaker 1>would cry for us. So basically, if you guys think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, like babies are a clean slate, like they

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<v Speaker 1>only know what they know. So or for the first

0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:56.320
<v Speaker 1>eight weeks of Ivy's life, during the day she slept

0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.440
<v Speaker 1>on me, we always rocked her to sleep, like all

0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:02.640
<v Speaker 1>these things. So of course she would cry unless that

0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:06.000
<v Speaker 1>thing happened. So this is where I say it was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit tough, and it feels a bit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>against your intuition. But at first, you know, we put

0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Ivy in the cot fully awake, and she would cry.

0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:21.280
<v Speaker 1>And when I say cry, I'm not talking like an

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<v Speaker 1>emotional cry. I'm talking like they call it a protest

0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:32.320
<v Speaker 1>cry when the baby simply you know, wants to have mum,

0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:35.080
<v Speaker 1>if that makes sense, So what would we So what

0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:37.000
<v Speaker 1>we would do is we would put her down. You know,

0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:40.040
<v Speaker 1>she would cry, kick around the cot. I would always

0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 1>time it, and I wouldn't leave her for longer than

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<v Speaker 1>six minutes. But ninety nine percent of the time she

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<v Speaker 1>would cry for five minutes and then she would just

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<v Speaker 1>go to sleep because she realized I wasn't coming back.

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.200
<v Speaker 1>If you know, she had been crying for a good

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<v Speaker 1>five to ten minutes and I could see that she

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't putting her to sleep. I would go in there

0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:06.360
<v Speaker 1>and pat her bum and have my hand over her,

0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:09.240
<v Speaker 1>just so she's like, she knows Mom's there. But I

0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:12.199
<v Speaker 1>would never pick her up because the whole thing we

0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:15.479
<v Speaker 1>realize is, you know, if you if she cries and

0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:18.440
<v Speaker 1>you go in and pick her up, then she goes, oh, okay,

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:20.679
<v Speaker 1>anytime I want mom to come pick me up, I

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<v Speaker 1>just cry. She picks me up and I can sleep

0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 1>on her. But what we kind of showed her was, no,

0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:29.080
<v Speaker 1>you cry, I'll come in and comfort you, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to sleep and you're cot and you'll you know,

0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you have to link your sleep cycles. So, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little bit hard at the start, because

0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:39.400
<v Speaker 1>no one wants to hear their baby cry. But once

0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:42.159
<v Speaker 1>you realize, like, it's so funny because we have a

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<v Speaker 1>baby camera and we'll literally watch Ivy and she'll cry,

0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and once she realized no one's coming in, she'll look

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<v Speaker 1>around and then just put her head down and go

0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:54.560
<v Speaker 1>to sleep. And me and Tim are like, oh my god,

0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:58.920
<v Speaker 1>she's so cheeky. So and that's the thing is it

0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:01.440
<v Speaker 1>was only hard at the start, And she only did

0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:05.120
<v Speaker 1>that at the start because previously she would cry, we'd

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:07.200
<v Speaker 1>come in, we'd put her to sleep, and that's all

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 1>she knew, and that's what she thought she had to

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 1>do to get to sleep. Whereas now she knows I

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:16.159
<v Speaker 1>can put myself to sleep, I know. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>the big thing that I love about routine is Ivy

0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 1>barely cries because she doesn't need to cry for me

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to feed her. She gets fed every three to four hours,

0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:32.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, once her two hour nap is over, or

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<v Speaker 1>once you know it's seven am, I come in and

0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I pick her up. I don't wait for her to cry,

0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 1>if that makes sense. So what we have found since

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:46.119
<v Speaker 1>putting this routine into place, we've found are, like, you know,

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:49.479
<v Speaker 1>the whole witching hour thing. So Ivy used to cry

0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>NonStop in the afternoon. She no longer does that. We

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:56.400
<v Speaker 1>do not have witching hour, and I honestly think that's

0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>because she's getting enough sleep during the day and she's

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 1>getting enough calor during the day, so she literally has

0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 1>no reason to cry. And I think what was happening

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:10.200
<v Speaker 1>previously is because I wasn't being very like onto her

0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:13.639
<v Speaker 1>feeding time. She was either overtired or she was hungry

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 1>in the afternoon, because I get more hungry in the afternoon.

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 1>So basically she doesn't cry at all because yeah, like

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I said, once her NAP's over, we come in, we

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:27.800
<v Speaker 1>pick her up, and when like we feed her before

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>she's even needing to cry to tell us she's hungry

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 1>because she's fed. And for us it has just been

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 1>an absolute game changer to see how happy she is.

0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:43.639
<v Speaker 1>But also it's been a game changer because we know

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 1>when we're feeding her, we know when her naps are,

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 1>so we can completely plan the day. I've gone back

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.200
<v Speaker 1>to work, so this routine has made it so much

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:57.440
<v Speaker 1>easier for Tim, you know, to look after her and

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>also like her sleep pep through the night even at

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.400
<v Speaker 1>ten weeks, like from that nine thirty till seven am.

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, guys, I need sleep. And it changed

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>like it was a game changer for us. And I'm

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.919
<v Speaker 1>a big believer. Is like if mom's happy, baby is happy,

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:18.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's just it has been so much better

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 1>for us. Like I said, it was a little bit

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 1>tough at the start figuring it out letting herself soothe.

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.359
<v Speaker 1>I do want to be like deliberate though, and just

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>say we don't do the crying out method, Like if

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 1>you do that, amazing, you do you, But it's not

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>like we leave her and she's crying for hours. The

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:43.919
<v Speaker 1>simple protest cry was just to teach her to self soothe,

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and it honestly only took a week or so and

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>she understood it. And now she completely puts herself to

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:54.280
<v Speaker 1>bed and even I will watch the camera after forty

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:58.160
<v Speaker 1>five minutes she wakes up in her morning naps, she'll

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 1>wake up, she'll move around the cod a little, she'll

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>make some noises, and then she'll put herself back to

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:06.399
<v Speaker 1>sleep because she knows, oh, I've got another sleep, and

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 1>then Mum will come and get me and we'll feed.

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 1>So like she's she's super smart, like babies are really

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 1>smart and they they know you know what they want

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and they know, oh if I cry, Mum will come

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.639
<v Speaker 1>get me and I can sleep on her. Whereas, yeah,

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:24.160
<v Speaker 1>if you don't teach them, they you know, they only

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>know what you can know, if that makes sense. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>A couple other things that we did is I started

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<v Speaker 1>reading the book Save Our Sleep. This is a musk, guys,

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:44.639
<v Speaker 1>So this very much. If you can't you know, afford

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 1>the Sleep Consultant, or you just like you don't feel

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>like you're at that step yet, go and read this book.

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Get it on audible, get it on Kindle, because very

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>much everything that I was taught from the Sleep Consultant

0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>was in this book. And I will go back to

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>the book. It's a little bit different with their awake times,

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>but in this book they have example routines that tell

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you exactly you know, when to feed, when to put

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:15.119
<v Speaker 1>baby down, and this and that. So if you're wanting

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:20.879
<v Speaker 1>direction about routines, that's definitely what I recommend. But to

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>give you guys a rough idea, currently what Ivy's routine

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:28.879
<v Speaker 1>looks like. This is what we do. So we wake

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Ivy up at seven a m. She's usually always sleeping

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 1>at this point, and so we go in and wake

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 1>her up. We never leave her past this point because

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:44.679
<v Speaker 1>generally there's a twelve hour window, so whatever time you

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 1>wake baby up, that's the time they'll go to bed.

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>So we never want her to put her We never

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:53.680
<v Speaker 1>want to put her later than seven pm to bed

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 1>because we eat after that. It's like wait too wait

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 1>for us. So just think, whatever time you wake baby

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<v Speaker 1>up is generally the time that they will go to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>So we wake her up at seven am. We say, hi, Ivy,

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<v Speaker 1>you've had such a good sleep, you know, kisses, cuddles,

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<v Speaker 1>change her, bring her downstairs, and she has her first

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<v Speaker 1>bottle of the day. A quick tidbit guys with feeding.

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<v Speaker 1>A guy that my pediatrician told me is you go

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<v Speaker 1>off your baby's weight times one fifty, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>how many mills, and then you divide that by how

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<v Speaker 1>many feeds you do a day. So we do four

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<v Speaker 1>feeds for her at the moment, so she has around

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>two hundred mills in each bottle. So yeah, seven am feed.

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<v Speaker 1>We then keep her awake for an hour and fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>to an hour and a half. We have playtime in

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<v Speaker 1>the Mama Roo that sort of thing, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>is down in her cot. We put her in a

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<v Speaker 1>cot completely awake, and we let her self soothe and

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<v Speaker 1>go to sleep. So often we'll look the camera and

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<v Speaker 1>she won't go to sleep for like fifteen minutes. She

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<v Speaker 1>will like mess around her cock cot, talk to herself

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing, but eventually she'll go to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>If she does cry and she doesn't go to sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll simply go in there, tap her bottom, help her

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep, and she'll go to sleep. But usually, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she knows how to self soothe now, and then she'll

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<v Speaker 1>usually have an hour and fifteen to two hours for

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<v Speaker 1>her first two naps. Again, if she wakes up after

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<v Speaker 1>one cycle and she doesn't link it and she cries,

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<v Speaker 1>I go in there and I pat her bum. I

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<v Speaker 1>never had. I never take her out of the cock.

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<v Speaker 1>If she's hysterically crying, I generally know okay, she you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is either have has a burp or she needs her

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<v Speaker 1>nappy changed, and obviously I will, you know, do those things.

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not like a robot. Her next feed is at

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<v Speaker 1>eleven am, and then we do the exact same thing

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<v Speaker 1>with the awake times. How we put it to bed

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<v Speaker 1>and and then her next feed is at three PM

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<v Speaker 1>and then six point thirty and then in the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't usually sleep longer than forty five minutes, which

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<v Speaker 1>is fine because she usually gets a good three or

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<v Speaker 1>four hours before that. And then we do her bedtime routine,

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<v Speaker 1>so we give her a bath, we have a little play,

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>we get her in her pajamas, and then we do

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<v Speaker 1>her last bottle at six point thirty, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>gets put in bed at seven and goes to sleep,

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>and at the moment she's sleeping the twelve hours touch wood.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's just a little bit about what has helped us,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're currently doing with her routine. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that helps. Definitely check out what Baby, which is

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Windows of Time. The sleep teacher on Instagram has some

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 1>great resources. The book This is a Musk Guy's The

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<v Speaker 1>book Save Our Sleep has been such an amazing tool

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<v Speaker 1>for us. Again, we don't do everything in the book,

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<v Speaker 1>but take what you want. It's just really great, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to know. And then getting help from the sleep consultant Susie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put her details in the show notes. Oh my God,

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<v Speaker 1>like game changer. I text Susie all the time. And

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<v Speaker 1>I go, oh my god, you know, Ivy's had the

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<v Speaker 1>best sleep day, thank you so much. And she's like

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<v Speaker 1>Susie's very old school and she yeah, she's like she

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit brutal. I'm not gonna lie, but she

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>was awesome. And she just gave me so much confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is like the biggest thing. Since we've got

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<v Speaker 1>Ivy into this routine, I just feel so much more

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<v Speaker 1>confident as a mum because, you know, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>if she's crying, it's like I know that you know,

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I know she's been fed, i know her nappy has changed,

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I know that she's had enough sleep. So if she's crying,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, all right, what's wrong? And it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>her routine eliminates so many things and she doesn't really

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of reasons to cry. And then also

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's made me and Tim's relationship so much

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<v Speaker 1>better because everyone knows, you know, what they're doing when

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>they're doing it, what she needs. It's so amazing for

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>me going back to work. It's so amazing for both

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>me and Tim's sleep, Ivy sleep, Like obviously you can

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<v Speaker 1>see I'm a big fan of routine. Yeah, it has

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<v Speaker 1>been a game changeer for us, so obviously I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to share this. But again, I know this is not

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>for everyone, and that is so okay, but please do

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<v Speaker 1>not DM me and you know, come at me about routine,

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 1>because like I said, everyone's journey with parenthood is different

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>and valid and whatever works for you, that's amazing. I'm

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:55.479
<v Speaker 1>just telling you, guys, what has worked for me and Tim.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I'm telling you because I kind of wish

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<v Speaker 1>I had started this whole route thing earlier. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>and save this, save our sleep. She has routines from newborn,

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<v Speaker 1>and one hundred percent with our next baby, I will

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<v Speaker 1>be doing her routines from day dot because I just

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>feel like, you know, newborn stage is hectic enough to

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<v Speaker 1>eliminate you know, these sorts of things. It's it's super helpful,

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>but again that's because I'm someone who loves routine, and

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>of course my baby loves routine. But yes, anyway, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that answers your questions. I know I've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just like blabbed on, but yeah, I hope that

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 1>is helpful. Make sure you check out those resources. I

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<v Speaker 1>will link everything in the show notes and I'll definitely

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>update you guys, because I know the whole four month

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>sleep regression is coming and I will let you know

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>how we go with that. But for now, everyone's sleeping

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>in the Crouch household and it is just bliss. And

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<v Speaker 1>if your baby's currently not sleep, definitely definitely look into

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<v Speaker 1>us again. It took us a good couple weeks before

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<v Speaker 1>we saw the results. I have another girlfriend who is

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<v Speaker 1>currently just starting a routine and she has said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the first couple weeks is hard, but stick to it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw amazing results, and yeah, we're all very happy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I hope this episode is helpful and I will

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<v Speaker 1>chat to you in my next episode. Thank you so much. Bye.

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