1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: My name is Satasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: woman and I'm here to acknowledge country t glennyan Ganya, Niana, 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Kaka yah y and Binahaka Nian our gay In Mbini, 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: yakarum jar dominyamiga Umaga Ihowaka nilewaman damind Immlan, Bumba bang 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: gadaboma in and now in wakah ghana on yakarum jar Watnadaa. Hello, 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: beautiful friends, we gather on the lands of the Aboriginal people. 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: We thank acknowledge and respect the Abiginal people's land that 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: we're gathering on today. Take pleasure in all the land 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: and respect all that you see. She's on the Money 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: podcast acknowledges culture, country, community and connections, bringing you the tools, 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: knowledge and resources for you to thrive. 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: She's on the Money. She's on the Money. 13 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast 14 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: that lets you reapa you about other people's money habits 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: for educational purposes, of course. Welcome back to one of 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: our money diaries, brought to you by our friends at 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: Sky Wells, where I get the absolute privilege of sitting 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: down with one of our incredible She's on the money 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: community members and talking to them all about their journey. 20 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: Let's jump straight into it, because this week I got 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: a message and it sounded exactly like this high She's 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 3: on the money. Buckle up. I thought I had my 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: future secured, a new home, a wedding, and a life 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: with my fiance. While I was in the thick of 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: a six month stint of my master's placement. He walked 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: out on a random Tuesday, leaving me to sell our 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 3: house and cancel a wedding that was only six months away. 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: I lost over thirty thousand dollars in wedding deposits and 29 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: almost everything I had spent six years saving for. It 30 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 3: was the world's most expensive lesson in why you should 31 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: never consolidate your finances with a man without a backup plan. 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: But I rebuilt. Since then, I've secured graduate roles, built 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: a successful career, and achieved financial independence. Today I earn 34 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: more than ever, with over one hundred and fifty thousand 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: dollars saved and twenty grand invested, all in my own name. 36 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 3: Money dorist be so for real? 37 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: It is crazy? What the heck? How? How when where 38 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 2: like oh so many questions. It's so funny like listening 39 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: to that and thinking, oh, that was my life at 40 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: one point. It's just wild. 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: And you know what, I know that you were probably 42 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: so excited to marry that man because like, you know, 43 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: that was what you were working towards. But now you 44 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 3: look back on it, you're like, thank god he walked out, 45 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: Like thank god. 46 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny, like thinking when you're in it, 47 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: it's just your whole world's kind of like crumbling. You're 48 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: in almost like a black hole, being swallowed by the world, 49 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: and then you come out of it and you're like, oh, Okay, 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: everything happens for a reason. 51 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. Al Right, let's jump into it. First question, 52 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: I've got money, Darist. What grade would you give your 53 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: money habits? If I asked you to give them a grade. 54 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: I would probably say I'd be a bee no plus. 55 00:02:59,840 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: No. 56 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 3: Girl, you've got one hundred and fifty grand saved after 57 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: you kicked some men to the curb. And I know 58 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: he quote walked out, but like, I just feel like 59 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: he's the one missing out here. Tell me a little 60 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 3: bit more about your money story, though. I want the 61 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: nitty gritty and the things that impacted it. 62 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean my money story, I guess starts 63 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: like anyone else's money wasn't really spoken about growing up, 64 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: but like we had it. It wasn't you know. We 65 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: weren't fighting for our lives or anything like that. We 66 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 2: were very lucky. Me and my sister went to a 67 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: prestigious private school around the area. And I remember like 68 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: seeing my parents, you know, kind of where the same 69 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: winter woolies for years and years and years. And I 70 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: remember having a conversation. I was just going into year eleven, 71 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: and I said, you know, I don't really want to 72 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: be here anymore, Like I'm sick of the school. I 73 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: don't really. I was very different to everybody else, I 74 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: guess because I couldn't do the things that they were 75 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: all doing. We didn't really have the money for it. 76 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: But I remember my parents saying, you know, if there's 77 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: anything that we can give you in life, you know, 78 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: we won't give you a brand new car. We're not 79 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: going to be able to give you a deposit for 80 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: a house or anything like that, but we want to 81 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: give you a good education. And looking back on it now, 82 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like those were their values. You know, it 83 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: was good like we we got a good education, we 84 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: got a good upbringing. We never struggled, but we also 85 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: never really saw the extent of it either. Like I 86 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: know that money was there, but then it wasn't there, 87 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: but then it was there again. So I guess I 88 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: kind of always had that growing up, like I needed 89 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: to hold onto money. So I got a job very 90 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: very early. I think I was thirteen when I got 91 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: my first job at Donut King. 92 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, very cool. 93 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: I was making like eight dollars an hour or something ridiculous. 94 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but also like donut King's cool, like that being 95 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: a first job, Like I think I would have thought 96 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: that you were the coolest kid at school. 97 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: I have unlimited cinnamon donuts. Might see a good deal, 98 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: great deal, it was quite good. But yeah, no, I've 99 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: never been out of a job since. So I've always 100 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: kind of held onto my money. I've always saved and 101 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: I did like end up, you know, buying my first car, 102 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: achieving all the things that I kind of wanted to do. 103 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: And then I had met my ex partner when I 104 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: was about eighteen, so I was fresh out of school, 105 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: just a baby. Yeah, I was really little. He was 106 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: twenty at the time, so we only had a two 107 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: year age gap, and I had taken the gap year 108 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: to just kind of work a little bit. I was 109 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: a bit burned out after you know, the end time 110 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 2: of school, like my school experience. So I was working, 111 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: and I remember we sat down and it was probably 112 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: from this point on, money kind of became a conversation 113 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: that we would have quite often, so it was very 114 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: embedded into our relationships, which was, I guess a good thing, 115 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 2: but also turned out to be a bad thing towards 116 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: the end because the focus was just always on money. 117 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: And we sat down and I was saying, you know, 118 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: I really want to buy an investment property, Like that's 119 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: what I want to do. That's my next kind of goal. 120 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: And he had said, well, you know, like you were 121 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: just a baby. 122 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: Yeah I was. 123 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: I guess I just wanted to Like I keep saying that, 124 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: but you were so. 125 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: Young, and you're like, Nope, I want to buy an 126 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: investment property. That's my goal. Like to me, that's crazy 127 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: in the best possible way. 128 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I had big dreams, I had big 129 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: goals and I was just really motivated. So yeah, he said, oh, well, 130 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: let's just let's do it together. And I said, okay, Yeah, 131 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: I could do that. He's like, why would you buy 132 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 2: an apartment when you can buy a house, Like we 133 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: can go in together, we can it could be great. 134 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: So we did. 135 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: We saved, and like in theory, that makes sense if 136 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: you were going to be together forever. Like when my husband, 137 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: you know, was my boyfriend and he suggested that we 138 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: buy a house together, I was like, yeah, great, I 139 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 3: would love to, Like I didn't question it, and I. 140 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: Think like growing up, like my parents never had like 141 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: his money, her money, so it was just like normal 142 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: to have, you know, Okay, yeah, we'll consolidate all of 143 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: our savings. We'll you know, spend the money that we 144 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: earned together, like it's not separate. So that's what we did. 145 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: We consolidated our finances and we were saving for a 146 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: house and COVID hit, so he had ended up moving 147 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: into my parents' house. I think like everyone kind of 148 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: did at the time, and then we pretty much saved. 149 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: So I went back to UNI after my gap year 150 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: and I did my undergraduate. I had two jobs at 151 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: the time, just kind of like trying to save, and 152 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: I always felt like the owners was on me. So 153 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: even though he was making quite a bit more than me, 154 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: he had his own business. He was a tradee. There 155 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: was always the owners was on me. I needed to 156 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: put money in, I needed to, you know, still have 157 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: money to spend at the end of the week. I 158 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: couldn't ask him for money type of thing, if that 159 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: makes sense. So yes, I always felt like I had 160 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: to work and I was just doing ridiculous hours, Like 161 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: I was working at a pub during my time at UNI, 162 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: So I would work from five o'clock in the afternoon 163 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: to three o'clock in the morning, go to UNI, come home, 164 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: do the same thing again. 165 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. 166 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: And that was just to save as much money as 167 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: I possibly could, you know. So anyways, we ended up 168 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: getting engaged, and I think you just always have like 169 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: this gut feeling right like we were having problems before, 170 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: just like anyone else in a relationship. Black problems exist, 171 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: And just before we had got engaged, I remember just 172 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: thinking to myself, like, I don't know if I really 173 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: want to be with this person for the rest of 174 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: my life. Awkward, Yeah, very awkward because within like two 175 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: weeks after that, he had proposed to me. So we 176 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: went on this really extravagant overseas died. 177 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: What do you do at that point. 178 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, I'm like, oh, okay, so I'm not going 179 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: to say no obviously, you Like, I think there was 180 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: just a very long period of my life between when 181 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: I guess from when we got engaged to when we 182 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: had split, where it was just constantly, like my gut 183 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: saying no. But it was always going to get better, 184 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: you know, like we'll get engaged, it'll get better. We'll 185 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: buy a house, it'll get better, we'll get married, it'll 186 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: get better. Kind of never got better. So, yes, we 187 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: got engaged, and then I had started my master's degree, 188 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: which was really really intense. It was four days a 189 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: week from eight o'clock to four pm. Goodness, So it 190 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: was practically a full time job almost. 191 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, of course. So and just like so mentally 192 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: demanding as well, Like I think people are quite like 193 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: that's not the worst thing in the world, but it's 194 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: also just like you're constantly trying to like jump hoops 195 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: and learn new tasks. It's not like going to work 196 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 3: nine to five mon day to Friday and you know 197 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 3: how to do those tasks. Like you are consistently learning 198 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: something new and your brain is just get overloaded. As 199 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 3: someone who's been there, I get it. 200 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, there were so many times I was just thinking, 201 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to do this anymore, Like I just 202 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: I don't have the brain capacity to do it. But 203 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,599 Speaker 2: I always wanted to do it. And my professions the 204 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: type of profession where if you don't have your master's degree, 205 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: you don't have anything, like you can't get a credit 206 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: unless you have your master's degree. So I had to 207 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: do it. So I would, you know, go to UNI, 208 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: come home from UNI, and then go work a five 209 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: to three shift at the pub, and then do it 210 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: all over again. And he had said to me, all right, 211 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 2: times right, we're getting married in I think it was 212 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: probably a year out. We need to buy a house. 213 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 2: So again that like gut feeling, I don't really want 214 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: to do it, but we did it anyways. I didn't 215 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: want to do it only because the second half of 216 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: my degree I had to go and do six months 217 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: of clinical placement and then six months of a thesis 218 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 2: as well, So I kind of again had the feeling 219 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: of I'm going to have to really work hard. The 220 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: onus was on me again. I always felt like I 221 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: had to pay. He never, you know, would I guess 222 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 2: offer to pay for anything. So I was thinking okay, 223 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: we'll do it. I'll just manage, like I'll just save 224 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 2: it is what it is. So we did, We bought 225 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: the house. We went away on a holiday, and I 226 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: think things were quite rocky at the time when away 227 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: on a holiday, came back and he had said that 228 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: he was going to leave, and this was just like 229 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: a constant kind of thing, and this time I just said, 230 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: you know what, just go, like, just go. 231 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: Like was that something where he was just lauding that 232 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: over your head like if you had a fight, he'd 233 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: be like, oh, break up with you kind of viable, 234 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: Like yeah, like what did that look like? 235 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: We would have a fight and that would just the 236 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: bags would come out and it's I'm going and i'd 237 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: you know, sit there and go, no, don't leave, Please, 238 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: don't leave me, and then yeah, I love you. 239 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 3: I'm you know, diluted, and also just know. 240 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: What, I know, Yeah, I think I just got to 241 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 2: the point where I was like, you know what, I 242 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: just I don't care anymore. Just go. Yeah. So he did. 243 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: He left. Funnally enough, came back not that long after, 244 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: and we were fined for months. We were good. We 245 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: worked things out, you know, our wedding was only six 246 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: months away, like, you know, it was all happening. It 247 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: was I had spent thirty thousand dollars of my own 248 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: money for the deposits on the wedding. He didn't spend 249 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: a cent. It was all wine. 250 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 3: Why wasn't he putting cash into this? Like where was 251 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 3: his contribution and why wasn't that being questioned? So he 252 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 3: owned his own business, so it was the business money, 253 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 3: and then it was our money, and that was it. 254 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? 255 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: Yes, I kind of get it, But also like, why 256 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 3: wasn't money being taken out of the business for his contributions? 257 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: It just never was. It was just never spoken about. 258 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: It was never an option. 259 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: I'm always so suspicious. 260 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was never an option. It was 261 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 2: just like that was the way that it was, you know. 262 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: So I did end up spending quite a bit of 263 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: money on that wedding. And then yeah, he messaged me 264 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: on a Tuesday morning. I remember being in the thick 265 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: of placement and it was so exhausting as well, because 266 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: again I was working, and then pretty much my Friday, Saturday, Sundays, 267 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: I was working again, so I just didn't get a break, 268 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 2: and the first half the week was unpaid anyway, so 269 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: I wasn't making any money, and it was all just 270 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 2: going to the house, going to the house, going to 271 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: the house. I had no money at this point. After 272 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 2: the deposit was paid for the house, our payments started 273 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: coming out for the house, and then all my money 274 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: was gone to the wedding. I really had nothing. I 275 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: had an emergency fund, which was, I guess a good thing, 276 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 2: but that was only five thousand dollars and it didn't 277 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 2: really get me too far. I remember getting that message 278 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 2: and I looked at my phone and I just ignored it, 279 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: and I thought, I'm not dealing with this right now. 280 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: The message said, I'm packing my bags. I'll be gone 281 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: by this afternoon. Take care of canceling the wedding, and 282 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: take care of the sale of the house. 283 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: Where was this man going, Like, why did he get 284 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 3: to walk out? What's going on here? I'm very confused 285 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,239 Speaker 3: about his audacity. 286 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: Well, at this point, I don't know. I was blindsided 287 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: to this. I still don't really understand it. I don't 288 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: understand the capacity. 289 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: I have never explained it. 290 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: No, he just left. 291 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: He just said I'm done. I'm leaving. Also, all of 292 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: this is up to you now. 293 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: I mean, the dots kind of connected after the fact, 294 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 2: but yes, at the time, just walked out and I 295 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: said that's fine, Like, I'll see you when I get 296 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: home and then you can go on your way whatever 297 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: you want to do. You want to do, So, yeah, 298 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: got home. He asked where the ring was. I told 299 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: him he took that, and then he said, are you 300 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: able to deal with the wedding and also deal with 301 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: the sale of the house. And I said, well no, 302 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: I was already embarrassed. Obviously we were so close to 303 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: the you know, the wedding happening. Everyone was excited for 304 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: this big wedding. And I said, well, no, you can 305 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: message all the vendors and cancel it and I'll deal 306 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: with the sale of house. That's fine. I'm happy to 307 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: deal with that. And yeah, I think the sale of 308 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: the house probably took about six months to sell. And 309 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: he I wanted to settle on thirty thousand dollars less 310 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: than what we paid for it, just to kind of 311 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: get it out of the way. And again I said no, 312 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: Like he had ruled my life for a very long time. 313 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: We were together for six years. Yeah, he had ruled 314 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: my life and had to say in so much of 315 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: my life for all that time. He wasn't getting a 316 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: say in this, and I wasn't going to lose the 317 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: money that I had saved my whole entire life, or 318 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: like it just wasn't happening. 319 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you for maintaining that, because it 320 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: would have been so easy to just be like fine, 321 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: get out, like. 322 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, there was definitely times where I was thinking, 323 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: like I just want it gone and I want to 324 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: finish it. But I ended up sticking to my guns, 325 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: and we did end up selling it for a little 326 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: bit more than what we paid, but I pretty much 327 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: just got Yeah, I just got kind of what I 328 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: had walked in with. So I did end up losing 329 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: out of money in that sense in terms of like 330 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: prepaying the mortgage, etc. But I did end up getting 331 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: that money back because at the time I had literally nothing. 332 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: I was doing a six month place and I had 333 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: nothing to my name, and I had burnt through my 334 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: emergency savings so quick. So it was kind of good 335 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: to see that money and cut the ties. 336 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, but yes, but also just like what the 337 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: heck is going through this man's mind, Like, don't get 338 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: me wrong, like clearly things weren't perfect, but to just 339 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: pull the pin and be like you have to deal 340 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 3: with this to me is like low caig phrazy. 341 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean again to this day, I don't know 342 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: and I'll never know. I mean, you know, he did 343 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: end up moving in Have. 344 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 3: You speculated is there someone else? Like that's the first 345 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: thing I thought of. 346 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, So he was actually living in my family home. 347 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: So we had bought the house with the I guess 348 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: assumption that we were going to move into it, and 349 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: we got the first home buyers grant yep, so we 350 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: didn't move into it. We were thinking, okay, on the 351 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: eleventh kind of month, we can move into it and 352 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: not have to pay stamp duty. So that was the plan. 353 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: So we were living at my parents' house because you know, 354 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: we were obviously kind of saving for a wedding, paying 355 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: for them all. I was also on placement as well, 356 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: and that man was never going to give me crazy, 357 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: he was never going to give me money to like 358 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: survive or anything. So about two months later, I want 359 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: to say, he ended up moving out of his mom's 360 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: home into his now girlfriend's family home as well. So interesting, 361 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 2: it's just like the cycle repeats. 362 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 3: Yeah that I was like, what's going on here? Like 363 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: how is this working? Because like there has to be 364 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: something going on in the background for that to have 365 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 3: been like such a clean like not clean, but like 366 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: for him to be like, all right, I'm done full stop. 367 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: If you'd gone back and forth for so long, like yeah, oh, 368 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: why are they like this? 369 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Look, honestly, it's just 370 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: it's probably the biggest blessing in disguise. I remember being 371 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: a thousand. 372 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: Percent like you've dodged a bullet. But tell me a 373 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: little bit more about this concept of you losing all 374 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 3: of this, like you know, deposit money, but him not 375 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 3: having to recoup that. Did you ever say all right, 376 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 3: well you owe me half or did you just let 377 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: it go like what happened there? 378 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: I honestly, there was so much back and forth and 379 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 2: he was always right where it was just like exhausting 380 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: to me. I didn't even bother with it, like he 381 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 2: was always right no matter what I said, he was 382 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: always right. I didn't want to get like mediation. I 383 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: didn't want to have to go into depth with everything. 384 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 2: I was willing to just cut my losses and leave 385 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: because I remember my mum saying to me, she said, 386 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: would you be happy to kind of, you know, be 387 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: embarrassed because you never had this big wedding that everyone 388 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: was hoping for, Or are you happier that you didn't 389 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: have this wedding that everyone attended, that everyone celebrated, and 390 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 2: then you got divorced, you know, two weeks three weeks later. 391 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: Oh, she's so right, But it's so hard to see 392 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 3: that in the moment, right because you're just like, oh 393 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 3: my god, I'm letting these people down. And I don't 394 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 3: think if we asked anybody who was invited too your wedding, 395 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 3: do you feel that down? They would have been like no, 396 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 3: like I'm so glad that they're doing what's right for them, 397 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: Like nobody would have felt that way. But you do 398 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 3: in that moment, I'm sure. 399 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 2: Of course. I Mean I had my whole life sorted, 400 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: I had the house I had, you know, I was 401 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: just about to finish my degree. I had what I 402 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: thought was the perfect man, I had all my ducks 403 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: in a row, and then all of a sudden everything 404 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: was this is crazy. 405 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: So he's like still negotiating settlement of this house with 406 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: you and sale price while living at a new girl's house. 407 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and queen, you can keep him like you 408 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 3: can keep him like I promise. I'm not looking at 409 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: your man because like nobody should be. 410 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: No, And I'm just like I'm happy to not have 411 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: a leech, like I'm happy for him to leach off 412 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: another female that will support him. 413 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: Yuck. I feel bad for her me too, but I 414 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 3: mean it is what it is, really what you pick 415 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 3: your poison exactly, exactly. Oh my goodness, money, Darius, do 416 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: I want to know what do you do for work 417 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 3: now and how much money do you earn? 418 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 2: So I only graduated a few few months ago, November 419 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 2: last year. Congrat So exciting, Yeah, really exciting. It was 420 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: six years too long. So I'm now an accredited practicing dietitian. Ah, 421 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: very cool. Yes, Yes, I work between a few jobs 422 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: just because it's really hard in the industry, like the 423 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 2: jobs are pretty far and few between, and especially full 424 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 2: time roles as well. You'll most likely find dietitians that 425 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: do have quite a number of roles and it just 426 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: makes up the full time week. So I work in 427 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 2: the community three days a week, and then I work 428 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: private practice two days a week, and then I'm a 429 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: contractor on the weekends as well in a GP clinic. 430 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: So you're still just hustling and working your butt off. 431 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, I think I have like this fear of 432 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: just never having money again. Ye fair, like what I 433 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 2: said before, Like I just always need to like hold 434 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: it tight. I mean, I respect it, but I also 435 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 2: don't want you to burn yourself out. Tell me how 436 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 2: much money you taking home for all of that. So 437 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 2: for my like my full time role, between the two jobs, 438 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: I make about ninety five thousand a year, which is 439 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 2: for a graduate dietitian. Quite good. 440 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 3: Now, that's very good, my queen. 441 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got super lucky with the roles that I got, 442 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: and then with my contracting role, it's ad hoc, so 443 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: some days I might be taking in you know, like 444 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: five hundred dollars for the day, and then other days 445 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: I might only make eighty dollars. So yeah, okay, it's 446 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 2: dependent on the referrals. 447 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: Yeah that's crazy. But also like so good, and what's 448 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 3: the plan because like, obviously you come into this industry, 449 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 3: you've worked your butt off, you've done your master's and 450 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 3: you're kind of still in that like grad mode. But 451 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 3: do you have a like I want to own my 452 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 3: own practice or you want to like go completely you know, 453 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 3: private practice, or what's the plan. 454 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think one day I would really love to 455 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: kind of have my own practice, have a bunch of 456 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 2: people working with me, create my own team. The market is, however, 457 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: very saturated, so I think most of the time, everyone 458 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: would be happy listening to, you know, an influencer online 459 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: that doesn't really have a degree or anything, because everyone eats. 460 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 3: Everyone knows what to be, don't I hate you? 461 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: Yea, So it would be good. That is kind of 462 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 2: the goal. But yeah, at the moment, I'm just kind 463 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: of building up my clinical skills as best as I 464 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: can to become a good dietitian eventually. 465 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: And are you leaning into that social side to kind 466 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 3: of build a clientele out or what does that look 467 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 3: like for you? 468 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess in my contractor role, because I work 469 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: kind of under my own business name, Like it's very separate. 470 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 2: Even though I work in the same clinic, it's very separate. 471 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: I have my own identity there and my own company. 472 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 2: I think kind of building up that clientele, building up 473 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: that name for now is a good kind of stepping stone. 474 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: And then I guess, you know, in a few years 475 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: down the track, hopefully my goal becomes a reality. 476 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: It totally will. And it always is so disheartening when 477 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 3: like an it's the reality right when you say something like, oh, well, 478 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: you know, lots of people would prefer to following influencer, 479 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: and it drives me insane because it's. 480 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: Like, what do they know? 481 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: Like they're saying things with conviction, and it's getting you 482 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: in trouble, Like I'm known about you and you probably 483 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 3: shouldn't agree to me in this moment. But I feel 484 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 3: like all of the influences right now that a drop 485 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 3: in health and beauty stuff are really promoting heroin chic 486 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: as like a body aesthetic or and that's just not 487 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: what it should be about. Like we've come so far, 488 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 3: like in being strong and being women and eating the 489 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 3: right stuff, and now it's just like we're going backwards. 490 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 3: So we need more people like you to have voices 491 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 3: that can be amplified to keep us happy and to 492 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 3: keep us healthy and to put U say in the 493 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: best possible position, because listening to influencers is horrific. Like 494 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 3: I find myself even when I'm talking about my journey, 495 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 3: I'll be like, I am not a doctor, but this 496 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 3: is what I'm doing. Please do not listen to me. 497 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 3: All I know is money. Like, I've got my finance degrees, 498 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: I've got business degree, like I know what I'm talking 499 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: about there, and I've even got a couple of psychology degrees. 500 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 3: We can talk about that. Anything outside of that, I'm 501 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 3: not a professional. Stop asking me. Like you want to 502 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: talk about food, go to a dietitian, go and talk 503 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 3: to our money darrist. 504 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 2: Like. 505 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: I cannot tell you how frustrating it is when people 506 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 3: are like, can you do a day on a plate? 507 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 2: No? 508 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I cannot, Like I cannot do a day on 509 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: a plate, because not only would it not be the 510 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: right thing to share, it would set like you know, 511 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: unrealistic expectations. Not because I eat too much, not because 512 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: I eat too little, all of that, but like, that's 513 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 3: crazy to think that I would become an influencer to 514 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 3: influence what people are eating it a day. Get me 515 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 3: out of here, exact, get me out. 516 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 2: A lot of my job is literally just debunking the 517 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 2: latest nutrition myth on the internet, so it's quite fee. 518 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: I have this gorgeous natural path that I see probably monthly, Zoe. 519 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: If you guys follow me on socials who would have 520 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 3: sent me a tagor a heap of times. But I 521 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 3: like am always going to her and you know, chatting 522 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 3: about my health, doing bloods, doing everything properly. But then 523 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, what about this? Like, oh, have you heard 524 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 3: of Ozmpic? Everyone's talking about it, but she's just like 525 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 3: we're trying to sit down, like this is crazy, and 526 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: like we get to have these good conversations about what's 527 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 3: going on, and it just really reiterates to me, like, 528 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 3: do not listen to influences, listen to people who are 529 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 3: actually educated, Like did you not just hear how much 530 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 3: our money diarist was slaving away to make sure she 531 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: has the knowledge to put people first. That's who we 532 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 3: want to be. Championing drives me insane. My love drives 533 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 3: me to sane. Let's move on from that, because I 534 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 3: want to know what are your big money goals? Because 535 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: obviously getting back on your feet financially was a big 536 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 3: money goal. Sorry, there's one hundred and fifty thousand dollars 537 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 3: in your savings right now, so I feel like we've 538 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 3: achieved that. Yeah, what's next? What are you currently working towards? 539 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: I mean, even though I'm very, very scarred. I would 540 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: like to get an investment property again. 541 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 3: Well that's not a bad thing though, Like that's just 542 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 3: an asset class. We just don't want to buy with 543 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 3: a douchebag partner who's going to move in with a girl. 544 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 3: They told you not to worry about, you know. 545 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think if I do do it, it'll 546 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: definitely be alone. But yeah, I just want to make 547 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: sure that I guess I'm very secure able to you know, 548 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 2: pay the mortgages, do everything that I need to do. Again, 549 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: I feel like I have this kind of mentality. It's 550 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: like it's never enough, like I need to have money 551 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: because you just never know when you're going to need it. 552 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 2: So I guess eventually I will look into securing my 553 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 2: next kind of investment property. 554 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 3: But that's really exciting. All right, let's go to a 555 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 3: really quick break and on the flip side, I want 556 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 3: to know a little bit more about this investment property 557 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 3: journey and what it could look like. I want to 558 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 3: talk about debt and how you feel about it, and 559 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: then we're going to talk about best and worst money habits. 560 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 3: So guys, it don't go anywhere money varies do. We 561 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 3: are back and I want to talk a little bit 562 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: more about investments, because you said, Hey, I'm not that 563 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 3: scarred when it comes to investment property. The man. Sure, 564 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 3: but like the investment property, I probably would get straight 565 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 3: back into bed with one of those tell me about 566 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 3: the plan. There is that something that you're like, Look, VI, 567 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: I just know I want to do it. I haven't 568 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 3: got a plan, or are you kind of working towards 569 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 3: having a specific deposit saved or where are we with that? 570 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: I mean, at the moment, I'm just kind of plodding along. 571 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: I guess because I worked so hard, I pretty much 572 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: rebuilt the last six months of my life, probably a 573 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: little bit more. I've been rebuilding kind of all of 574 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: that money back and going from having nothing in my 575 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: bank account to you know, the sale of the property 576 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: coming through, and then kind of rebuilding my finances up 577 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: from there. I think probably within the next year or so, 578 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: I'll look into buying a property. 579 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: Oh that's exciting and so soon. 580 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, no magic number, like I'm not looking to you know, 581 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: hit two hundred thousand or anything like that. But I 582 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: think just when I'm ready, when I feel ready to 583 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: do it, I'll do it. 584 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: I have no doubt you'll hit two hundred pounds. It 585 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 3: sounds like you are hustling and hustling hard. Are you 586 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 3: investing in any other way? 587 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 2: Yes, I am. I do you have a comsex account 588 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: so I have. I checked this morning. It was actually 589 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,239 Speaker 2: twenty thousand, four hundred and ninety three dollars thus far. 590 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: Oh I can't. 591 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 3: And how long have you been investing? What made you 592 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 3: dive in first? 593 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: She's on the money. 594 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 3: I stopped it. You did not have to say that, 595 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: but I'm glad that we're all putting ourselves first. 596 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: I've literally got all of the books. 597 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: Do you actually? 598 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 2: That was so sweet. 599 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: It makes me want to cry when people are like, 600 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: I've got your books, I'm like, what do you mean? 601 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 3: Like I thought it was just my mum who bought those. 602 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: So I bought them as well. I have them. My 603 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: dad also helped as well, so I did go to 604 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: him after kind of listening to a lot of the 605 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: podcast I guess around kind of investing and things like that. Yeah, 606 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: and I went to him, and I started off with 607 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: a comsex pocket, so I think I probably put like 608 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: two hundred dollars into that made and then my dad, 609 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: who's an accountant, I went to him and I was like, 610 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: I want to start investing. Can you kind of tell 611 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: me what I should do, not necessarily what I should 612 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: invest in or anything. 613 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 3: And he was probably like money, darrist, I've been telling 614 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 3: you this for years, and you were h yeah, but 615 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 3: I've listened to this podcast. And he was like, I 616 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: don't care about your podcast. I have been telling you 617 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 3: for years. Why didn't you listen to you? And You're like, no, 618 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 3: you never told me. That's crazy, Dad, No. 619 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,239 Speaker 2: He really did. He's like, I've been saying this, if 620 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 2: you invested X amount, you know, in five years at 621 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: four percent. 622 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 3: Sorry, Dad, you're just too male. I'm sorry. We're not 623 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 3: here to listen to men about how to run our world. 624 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: So it's just not going to resonate. I don't need 625 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 3: make my own accountant father, as you probably already know 626 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: if you read my book. I'm sorry, Dad, I love you, 627 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 3: but I'm not going to be listening. 628 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: No, it doesn't make spect. 629 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 3: It just it wasn't even a choice. It was subconscious. 630 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: It's like when he would sit at the table with 631 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: me every night after dinner and do my Musk's homework 632 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: with me, and I would just go, nah, I can't 633 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: listen to not making any sense. So oh. 634 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 3: I wrote about that in my book as well, and 635 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 3: how I used to sit at the dining with my 636 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 3: dad and he'd be trying to teach me times tables 637 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: and I would cry, I know, like I would sit 638 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: there crying and he would be like, no, Victoria, you're 639 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 3: not getting out of this by crying. You are sitting 640 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: here and doing it. So I'd be sobbing and be 641 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 3: like five times five. 642 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: It's so funny because I swear my life was exactly 643 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: the same. But no, he he told me kind of 644 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: how it worked so individually investing into different stocks, and 645 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: just from that point I did my own research. I 646 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,479 Speaker 2: sat on it for a little while, Like I probably 647 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: sat on a couple stocks that I watched for about 648 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 2: three months or so. Yeah, did a bit of you know, 649 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: research and stuff, and then I did end up kind 650 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: of picking a couple stocks to invest in, and then 651 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: ever since then, I've just picked other stocks to invest. 652 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 3: In, so which we love, which we genuinely love. Like 653 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes it does take a little bit 654 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 3: of sitting and a little bit of planning, Like it's 655 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: never you listen to one podcast and then did it 656 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: and if you did I'm confused, like, how did you 657 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 3: just get the confidence because I didn't even have the 658 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 3: confidence to do that. 659 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: No, it was very confused, Like. 660 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 3: Me, it's insane. I need to step back and make 661 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: decisions slowly. 662 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the same. I needed to just sit on 663 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: it for a while and understand it. Before I kind 664 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: of did invest in individual stocks, especially like blue chips 665 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: and things like that, I didn't really understand. 666 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so exciting. And is that something where over 667 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: time you're going to be investing more or are we 668 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 3: really prioritizing getting into an investment property like or are 669 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 3: you just like V I'm just doing whatever feels good 670 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 3: right now. 671 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 2: No. Well, I try to put aside each week about 672 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars depending on kind of like my pay 673 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: that week, and then I just kind of wait until 674 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: I'm ready to buy a certain stock or buy more 675 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: of a stock that I've currently already got. That's kind 676 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 2: of how I work. 677 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 3: I love that, all right. Tell me about debt. Do 678 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 3: you have any debts? Have you ever had any debt? 679 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: I feel I feel like I know the answer to this. 680 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 2: No. At the moment, the only debt that I've got 681 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: is my ex debt, which is I think. So I 682 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 2: paid off my first undergraduate degree, so I've just got 683 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: my mom sitting in there. I think at the moment 684 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: it's like twenty thousand maybe yep, yeah, yep. 685 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 3: And you planning on paying it off or you very 686 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 3: happy with that? What's your approach. 687 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: I've been thinking about paying it off, but I'm happy 688 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: to just kind of write it out for the next 689 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: couple of years and again just say invest and then 690 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: maybe when I'm in a better financial situation, I will 691 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 2: pay it off. 692 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 3: We'll see how we go, totally. So tell me a 693 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: bit more about personal insurances because you are quite young. 694 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 3: Is this something I mean, you've read my books, so 695 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 3: you know how important I think this is. But is 696 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: this something that you've set up or organized or even 697 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 3: thought about yet. 698 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 2: No, I don't have any personal insurance, but I have 699 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: been thinking about it, doing it through my super But yes, 700 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: I don't have any currently. I think definitely something to 701 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: ponder about. It is important. I just don't have any. 702 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 3: I think it's very important and you definitely should. But 703 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 3: that is okay, that's something that could definitely take you 704 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 3: from a B to an A overnight. I reckon tell 705 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: me a bit more. I feel like you're going to 706 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 3: have some pretty good money habits. You don't go from 707 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 3: losing literally everything that you'd saved for and you know, 708 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 3: and losing all your wedding deposits to have one hundred 709 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 3: and fifty grand saved without some good money habits. So 710 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 3: what do you think is your best money habit? 711 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 2: My best money habit, And I've been doing this since 712 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 2: my first job. As soon as I get paid, I 713 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 2: pretty much put a certain amount into savings, an emergency fund, 714 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: my car expenses. I have a whole range of different 715 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: accounts that I allocate, and then I'll leave myself my 716 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 2: budget for the week. Once you know that budget is gone, 717 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I try and budget as much as I can, 718 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 2: but once it's gone, it's gone. So I like practically 719 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 2: will live off two minute noodles if I have to. 720 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 3: And I mean that's a good thing. But where does 721 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 3: that discipline come from? Have you always had that or 722 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 3: are you just like, no, I don't want to spend 723 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 3: any more money, or I don't want to, you know, 724 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: go above them. I don't know how do you get 725 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 3: that mentality? Because so many people just don't have it right, 726 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 3: They just go No, I could never do that, Like, 727 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I wouldn't sacrifice that. 728 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't know, Like I just pretty much 729 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: from the first paycheck I got I started doing it. 730 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: No one told me to do it. I just I 731 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 2: did it, and I've just been doing it for pretty 732 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: much my whole working life. 733 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that that's like, honestly relatively healthy 734 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 3: as long as it's not like restrictive in every other 735 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: part of your life. But I'm also like, how do 736 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 3: people just know this and then other people don't, Like, 737 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 3: obviously it's part of your money stories, but like, which 738 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 3: part how do we teach this? 739 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 2: I'm not too sure. Again, I think it was just 740 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 2: because growing up money wasn't scarce. However, we did have 741 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: periods where we didn't have money. So I think again, 742 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: it's just I hold onto whatever money I can, And 743 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: I guess that's probably going into my worst money habit. 744 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 2: That is, that's probably my So what is your worst 745 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: money habit? I think again, probably just holding onto all 746 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: my money and being scared and I guess being stung 747 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 2: in the past now that's probably made that a little 748 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: bit more heightened and substand It's like I can't lose 749 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: my money, like I've been there before now and it 750 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: scares me. So it's like I can't not have any money, 751 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: if you know what I mean. 752 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of scary. But also what does that 753 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 3: mean in the future, Like have you found a new partner? 754 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 3: Is that something that you're interested in? Like how do 755 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 3: we move forward once somebody has like kind of just 756 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 3: been like, oh, by the way, I'm out. Also you 757 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 3: work it out. Also you're up for all of these costs, 758 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 3: like that would scare me off. 759 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do have a new partner. 760 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 3: Actually, yay, Well I'm glad. 761 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's great, he's unreal. He has spoken to me 762 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 2: about consolidating our finances. But I'm just like very scarred. 763 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: It's not happening, absolutely not, sir. So for now, it's 764 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: my money or money, And yeah, I guess somewhere down 765 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 2: the line, if I feel comfortable doing it, then I 766 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 2: may probably not all of my finances like I did prior, 767 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 2: but it may be something that, you know, down the line, 768 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: we do end up doing. But yes, I think my 769 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 2: scarcity kind of mindset do need to work on. It's 770 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 2: something that I know I need to work on. But 771 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: it's just a matter of I don't really know how 772 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 2: to do it because it's so engraved in me. 773 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me a little bit more about this scarcity 774 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 3: mindset and how you feel like it's holding you back, 775 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 3: because I think a lot of the time people are like, oh, well, 776 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 3: a scarcity mindset is really bad, but sometimes it can 777 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 3: be a good and a bad thing. And I'm not 778 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 3: trying to reframe it to be good because clearly you're like, there, 779 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 3: I want to work on this, but like, can you 780 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 3: tell me a bit more about where you feel like 781 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 3: that's holding you back. 782 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not necessarily holding me back from anything, 783 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 2: but there is definitely times where say I've you know, 784 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 2: blown my budget for the week, where I do have 785 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 2: fifteen dollars left at the end of the week. My 786 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 2: friends might say like, hey, let's you know, go out 787 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 2: for dinner or something, and I'm like, no, so I 788 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: do kind of miss out on things I would, you know, 789 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 2: obviously like to kind of lengthen that out a little 790 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 2: bit or try and work on ways that I can, 791 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 2: you know, maybe extend my budget to allocate fun things. 792 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 2: But I've sound really boring actually now that I'm talking, 793 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 2: no sound boring. 794 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 3: I think you sound relatable because so many of us 795 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 3: are going, like, you know, we don't know have one 796 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty grand saved, but so many of us 797 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 3: are like, oh, that's holding me back off? 798 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: But is it? 799 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 2: But isn't it? 800 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 3: Like life is stressful my friends, like so many of 801 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 3: us are just trying to get by, and then we 802 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 3: identify things that we're like, oh, I'm struggling with that. 803 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 3: But I also have never heard someone say that they're struggling, 804 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 3: especially around money. Like how many times have you heard 805 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 3: someone outside of the She's on the Money and like 806 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 3: the podcast Money Space, say oh, I'm really struggling with 807 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 3: my scarcity mindset. It's holding me back from creating wealth 808 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 3: or creating happiness. Like these aren't questions that we know 809 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 3: the answers to, Like we just don't. So I think 810 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 3: it's so important that we talk about this and go, 811 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 3: what about that is holding you back or you know 812 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 3: what's going on? And you're saying, hey, Vey, well not 813 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 3: really holding me back, but I am missing out on 814 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 3: like life experiences with my friends, and like that's what 815 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: I would want to build. Wow, how insightful is that 816 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 3: for us to know? And how insightful. Is it that 817 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 3: somebody gets to listen to this money story and go 818 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 3: hold on? That's how I'm feeling. That's crazy, Like I 819 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 3: thought it was just me, Like I think it's just 820 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 3: really special. 821 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good, but it's also not good at the 822 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 2: same time. So I'd like to get to a good, 823 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 2: happy meeting. I do get it. I do get it. 824 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: So tell me. 825 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 3: Now that we've spoken, I feel like you're a bit 826 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 3: of a weapon. Also, you just like you've gotten back up, 827 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 3: dusted yourself off, and been like, I actually don't need that, man, 828 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 3: I'll just get a newer, better one. And then you 829 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 3: did like be so for real, like that is a 830 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 3: hot girl move. Now that we've spoken, do you really 831 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 3: feel like you are just to be? 832 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: Like? 833 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 3: I don't know what would make you an a? What 834 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 3: do you have to do to get to become an 835 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,720 Speaker 3: a given you're so young and have so much ahead 836 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 3: of you. 837 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. Actually, I think probably to become an 838 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 2: it would mean that I do have I guess better, 839 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 2: I guess relationships in terms of money where it's not 840 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 2: like I'm constantly holding onto it, and you know, it's 841 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 2: something that I constantly think about. I just don't have 842 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 2: enough of like, and I think that's the thing. I'll 843 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 2: never have enough of it no matter what my goal is, 844 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 2: no matter what I reach, it will never be enough 845 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 2: to me. So I think that is probably the only 846 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 2: thing kind of holding me back at the moment. It's 847 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 2: like a blessing and a curse really, But that's. 848 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 3: Also not the worst thing. But it does sound like 849 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 3: maybe it's not a I have to save more, I 850 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 3: have to buy an investment property for me. It sounds 851 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 3: a little bit more around your money mindset and like 852 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 3: feeling comfortable and like getting really comfort in this relationship 853 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 3: that you're now in about how you manage money moving forward, 854 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 3: because you just don't want that to be something that 855 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 3: you know Lord's over you for the rest of it ever, 856 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 3: Like I just feel like that could be all all 857 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 3: consuming and overwhelming, right, Yeah, exactly, no, And that's not 858 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 3: the worst thing to want to work on, right, And 859 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 3: like I talk a lot about it in my books, 860 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 3: as you would probably know. So I'm going to gift 861 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 3: you my money masterclass to do because as much as 862 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 3: it's just a budget, right, it's also got so many 863 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 3: videos about money mindset and getting on the same page 864 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 3: and like feeling confident with money, and I just think 865 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 3: that you might benefit from that and if that even 866 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 3: pushes you to a B plus, I would love that. 867 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 2: I would love that too. Thank you. I appreciate the door. 868 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 3: Oh I'm glad. I was worried that you'd be like 869 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 3: no V, like I already have it. 870 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 2: Or I was going to buy it, like probably two 871 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 2: months ago. I was like I'm going to buy it, 872 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 2: and then I didn't end up doing it. 873 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 3: I think, well, I'm glad you did it because you've 874 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 3: just saved and like I'll gift it to you as 875 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 3: a little bit of a thank you for doing the 876 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 3: money don't with me, because I'm like, hold on, this 877 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 3: would really work for you, and like I think you'll 878 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 3: find the budget, like the actual spreadsheet really empowering as well, 879 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 3: especially if you're trying to like plan out what's next 880 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 3: or where you're going and what that looks like. I'm 881 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 3: excited for you to do it, but I'm also just 882 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 3: really grateful that I've had the opportunity to do this 883 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 3: money diary with you and like share a bit of 884 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 3: your story and you know, throw some mean words around 885 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 3: about your expert from my side, not yours. I were 886 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 3: very respectful, and you know what, maybe no one's broken 887 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 3: up with me like that because they just know that 888 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 3: I would be savage, like I'd be so rude, like 889 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 3: I'd get canceled. 890 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 2: No one cancels Victoria to more. 891 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 3: They've tried, and you know. 892 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 2: What, pop off. 893 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 3: Sometimes they're right. Sometimes I need to pull my head in. 894 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 3: But at least I'm honest. 895 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 2: You know, not on my watch. No, it's not happening. 896 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 2: I appreciate you. 897 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 3: It has been an absolute pleasure. 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