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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's.

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Speaker 2: The Jonesy demand of arms for the pub test this morning.

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Speaker 2: Cricket Australia not referencing Australia Day. Does it pass the

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Speaker 2: pub test?

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Speaker 3: Well, there are a number of BBL games being played

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Speaker 3: on January twenty six They are not calling it the

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Speaker 3: Australia Day Games. Three BBL teams will wear Indigenous inspired

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Speaker 3: uniforms in the matches. Well, they've been played the third,

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Speaker 3: the twenty fifth and the twenty sixth, but they are

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Speaker 3: not the Australia Day matches and this is Cricket Australia's choice.

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Speaker 3: Our Prime minister has described this decision as pretty ordinary.

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Speaker 3: He said that they should focus on cricket unless on politics.

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Speaker 3: Politics and sport will always be mixed, and Scott Morrison

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Speaker 3: takes advantage of that. Whenever he likes, he'll play water

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Speaker 3: boy and run onto the field. And hey, your Prime

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Speaker 3: minister loves cricket, goes both ways, sure, he said also, well,

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Speaker 3: actually haven't listened to what he said in a press

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Speaker 3: conference yesterday.

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Speaker 2: When ships turned up in Sydney all those years ago,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't a particularly flash day for the people on

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Speaker 2: those vessels either.

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Speaker 3: That's so tone dead. Well, you know, now, how do

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Speaker 3: you say our excuse?

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Speaker 4: There was eleven chips too, There are.

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Speaker 3: Eleven ships some people, some wags are saying the twelfth

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Speaker 2: But the thing about Australiada, and I've been involved in

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Speaker 2: the Australia Day in a media sense. When I first

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Speaker 2: started in radio thirty one years ago, the big discussion

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Speaker 2: was because Australia Day used to just float around the weekend.

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Speaker 4: It didn't actually get celebrated on the twenty six.

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Speaker 2: It would just work out it'll be on a Friday

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Speaker 2: on a Monday, so we all to have a long weekend.

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Speaker 2: The big discussion the pub test back then was should

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Speaker 2: we move it to the actual day? And people are outraged, Oh,

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Speaker 2: you're going to ruin me long weekend? What happens if

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Speaker 2: it comes on a Tuesday?

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Speaker 3: So what changed it?

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Speaker 5: Was it?

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Speaker 3: Our Jingo wasn't around the Olympics.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, don't know. I've been in radio for thirty one years.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I do know this that when I was young, we

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Speaker 2: never celebrated to Australia Day. When it was just it

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Speaker 2: was a thing. It was a reason to have a

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Speaker 2: long weekend. I will celebrate a day when we're all happy.

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Speaker 2: But here's the other thing to this. If it wasn't

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Speaker 2: for what happened in seventeen eighty eight, we wouldn't be

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Speaker 4: Regardless, it wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Have It might have been under the Spanish or the French,

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Speaker 2: but we wouldn't exist as a nation. And it's become

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Speaker 2: so poisonous. And that's what Cricke Australia's doing. They go, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's just too hard. How do we get to this

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Speaker 2: point where it just got too hard. We've got to

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Speaker 2: acknowledge the day.

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Speaker 4: But surely we.

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Speaker 2: Have to respect the Indigenous people that have been here

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Speaker 2: for sixty zero years.

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Speaker 4: I don't see how that's hard. I don't see how

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Speaker 4: it's well.

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Speaker 3: Cricket Australia is also saying they have a National Aboriginal

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Speaker 3: on Torres Straight Island, a cricket Advisory Committee, and they

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Speaker 3: are saying they're supporting this decision not to reference Australia Day.

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Speaker 3: There are five Indigenous players, there are a lot of

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Speaker 3: Indigenous fans that would be coming to the games. This

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Speaker 3: is a day where a lot of Indigenous people don't

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Speaker 3: feel safe because the arguments become so divisive. They want

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Speaker 3: what's most safe, the players and the supporters. But I

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Speaker 3: agree with you. I want a day where we can

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Speaker 3: all feel good. Why celebrate a day acknowledging that life

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Speaker 3: changed for our Indigenous population, not in a great way

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Speaker 3: that day. Why do we celebrate that. Find a day

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Speaker 3: where we can all celebrate modern Australia and own our history.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look it is.

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Speaker 3: It's tough, but I think Cricket Australia is well within

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Speaker 3: its rights to play politics and not reference Australia Days.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they should, don't you. I think they should.

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Speaker 4: You know, look, as I said, it's such a armed

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Speaker 3: It's such a minefield, isn't it. Well, this is how

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Speaker 3: we're phrasing it. Cricket Australia not referencing Australia Day.

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Speaker 2: Cricket Australia not referencing it Australia Day. Does it pass

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Speaker 3: The three BBL clubs will where Indigenous inspired uniforms in

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Speaker 3: matches play January twenty three, twenty five, twenty six, but

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Speaker 3: these matches are not being referenced as the Australia Day matches.

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Speaker 3: Cricket Australia has made this decision. It's recognition that it's

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Speaker 3: it's a hurtful day. We've got five Indigenous players. This

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Speaker 3: is what the National Abridge on torrestrat On, the Cricket

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Speaker 3: Advisory Committee is saying. We've got five Indigenous players playing

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Speaker 3: these games, a lot of Indigenous fans who come to

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Speaker 3: the cricket We want to make this place as safe

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Speaker 3: and as inclusive as possible. And I think many Australians

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Speaker 3: are feeling if it can't be a day that all

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Speaker 3: of us can celebrate. Yep, let's not celebrate it.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's such a and as I said before

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Speaker 2: before eight o'clock. You know, in the time i've been

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Speaker 2: in radio, we've this debate has gone on for thirty

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Speaker 2: one years.

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Speaker 4: And in the old days, it used to be need

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Speaker 4: the weekend, so you'd have a long weekend.

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Speaker 2: People used to get play. Well, why would you put

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Speaker 2: it on a Tuesday, Then we're going to come.

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Speaker 4: To work on Monday.

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Speaker 2: So the date had no significant any wide Australians really

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Speaker 2: sit there. As a wide Australian, I'm always perplexed about

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Speaker 4: That sort of day just passes over.

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Speaker 2: Then seventeen eighty eight Philip comes out here and with

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Speaker 2: the first fleet. By seventeen seventy nine Captain was dead.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is.

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Speaker 3: We've stated we've created the jingoism around it around Australia,

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Speaker 3: which and Australia pride in your country. All of that's one. Well,

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Speaker 3: during the Olympics, I think that's where we read it

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Speaker 2: But I'll I'll say this as well, though, is it

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Speaker 2: up to Cricket Australia does it suddenly make this But then,

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Speaker 2: just joined to Simon Baker, our past is very awkward

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Speaker 2: and maybe we've got to face the awkwardness of it.

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Speaker 3: And Cricket Australia may be stepping up and saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: we're going to speak out and say this isn't appropriate.

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Speaker 3: We say, is it up to Cricket Australia. Why not

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Speaker 3: Cricket Australia, why not whoever feels strongly about it speak up.

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Speaker 4: At the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: If it wasn't for the first fleet coming here in

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Speaker 2: seventeen eighty eight, we wouldn't be here now.

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Speaker 3: But this is not the day to celebrate that because

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Speaker 3: it has a negative connotation for our first Australians.

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Speaker 4: What do you think we have no idea cricket.

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Speaker 3: Australia not referencing Australia Day. Does this pass the pub test?

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Speaker 5: No, it doesn't. They should be proud to represent Australia.

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Speaker 3: I feel out of Australia.

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Speaker 1: I think it's wrong. They seem to be running the

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Speaker 1: cricket on Australia Day because it's a public holiday, so

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Speaker 1: they're using the holiday but don't want to recognize its

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Speaker 1: Australia d Australia Day to me recognizes unit. Yes it does,

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Speaker 1: basically because we didn't become a nation on the twenty sixth.

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Speaker 5: It was the first of January nineteen oh one.

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Speaker 1: Preate Australia is taking the mickey. They want to still

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Speaker 1: watch the cricket on Australia Day but not even mentioned it.

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Speaker 4: We need today that.

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Speaker 5: We can only celebrate, and it's so hurtful to the

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Speaker 5: people to celebrate to day that really acted them so badly.

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Speaker 5: Australia Day is actually to celebrate the nineteen forty eight

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Speaker 5: the Australian Parliament actually made Australian Australian. They had Australian

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Speaker 5: passports from them because before that it was everyone was

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Speaker 5: a British subject. And that's why they date must picked.

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Speaker 5: It has nothing to do with peparate cooks, landing or

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Speaker 5: anything like that.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 3: But did Indigenous Australians have I don't think they had

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Speaker 3: the right to vote. I don't think they didn't l

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Speaker 3: nineteen six, that's right, So it's still not a day

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