WEBVTT - BILLIE AND SARAH UNPACK MASTERCHEF 2022! 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.000 TV Reload the podcast last week. They might welcome back 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:08.039 to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris and on this 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:11.280 podcast I go behind the scenes with the biggest players 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.640 in television. Each episode you will get a front row 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:19.560 seat with content makers like executive producers, writers, editors and 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:23.400 casting agents, plus the talent that we see on our screens. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:27.400 TV Reload reloads the shows that you are currently watching 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.800 and gives you a better insight at our television industry 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:34.560 and streaming services today. On the podcast, I have Master 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:38.720 Chef Australia's twenty twenty two winner and runner up. It's 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.800 Billy and Sarah. This season we welcome back to the 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:46.199 kitchen the most celebrated contestants ever and while these ladies 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:49.240 have their work cut out for them with some impressive fans, 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.480 it was the two remaining favorites who battled it out 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.520 in the finale. This is the second time Billy has 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.760 won Master Chef Australia and while she has cashed in 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:01.360 her two hundred and fifty three, I feel like this 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:05.120 experience is more than just the money. Both girls can 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:08.280 walk away from the competition with their heads held high, 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.039 and I can't wait to see what they both do next. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:15.319 We will discuss their final bond, friendships, what is next 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.560 for the two of them, and all the twists and 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.520 turns along the way that has made this season one 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:24.000 of the most memorable season of Master Chef. Ever. However, 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.800 let's get started. I'd like to welcome two of the 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:30.920 most celebrated people on television in twenty twenty two. It's 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:36.120 Billy and Sarah from Master Chef Australia. 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:37.800 I was like, I'm not coming back. 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:42.600 Master Sheff has produced some of the biggest names in food. 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:44.880 Winning at the first time. I was pretty young. 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.720 The first time ever, it's funds versus favorites. 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.920 We just need to lift each other up and be supportive. 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:58.120 And you've impressed us week after week, not only with 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:02.400 the caliber of your cooking, but with your incredible fighting spirit. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:06.000 FINALI is always going to be really intense. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:10.079 Show in Australia. 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.280 I'm glad I can say now that all of that 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.400 pain and waiting was worth it. 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.080 Hi, Sarah, how are you? 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:21.000 I'm good. I feel really good. I think you know. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.400 Master Shepher's finished now and I'm excited for just like 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.120 getting out there in the big wide world. 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.480 Again, it's a bit of a bubble, this reality TV stuff. 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.280 Absolutely, congratulations on coming second. I mean, this is a 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.920 very good badge of honor. You might not have taken 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.080 out the top prize, but to make it through this 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:41.560 competition with such amazing talent, Like it's been the toughest 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.960 season in terms of talent I think we've ever seen 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:44.440 on the show. 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:48.640 Oh totally, even the fans. I'm just blown away with 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.800 the types of dishes that they're cooking. And there were 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.360 so many weeks where I was like, Yep, I'm getting 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:55.280 eliminated this week. 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:56.920 Okay, I'm getting eliminated this week. 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.280 Can It just never happened, And I kept getting closer 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:03.200 and closer, and to be in the finale felt incredible. 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.480 I felt for the first time, I felt kind of 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.200 at ease walking into the kitchen, so I kind of, 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.160 you know, I didn't feel bad if I lost. 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:13.880 I was like, Okay, I've made it. This is a 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:14.760 huge achievement. 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.880 And I felt just really excited to cook and I 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:20.240 think I think it kind of showed through in my dishes. 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.160 I was really proud of what I put up, and. 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.119 I think that's the that's the best way to leave 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.320 the competition just feeling proud of how I cooked and 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:29.440 what I put up. 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:31.240 I think that the food that you cook on the 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:35.120 show is like three D television. It's so visceral that 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.280 when you're seeing home and you're watching your food, you 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.840 can taste it or you just want to go and 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:41.800 eat it, you know what I mean. And it's an 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:43.640 amazing thing to be sitting at home just being like 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:46.200 suitantalized by something that you can't smell and you can't taste. 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:48.640 I know, it's strange, isn't it. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.480 Whether they going to invent like smell a vision or 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:55.160 you know somewhere you can taste it almost through the TV. 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.400 I guess you don't need it, because yeah, I mean, 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.200 Master Chef does a very good job at. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:00.640 That the closest it you're going to come to it. 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.360 I don't think I want smellvision because there's way too 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.120 many other categories that that's not going to work in 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:06.360 our favor, my friend. 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:08.520 True, true, true. 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.520 Do you think that the right two people manage to 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:14.119 make it to the finale? I mean, do you think 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:15.600 that you and Billy were the right two people at 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:15.920 the end? 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.840 Yeah, I mean I think Billy is amazing. 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.960 I think she's really talented and she is great at 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:23.599 the competition. 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.920 I think she did a great job to get there. 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.640 I think there's other people that I would have loved 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:31.960 to be closer to the end as well. Like I 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:36.560 think Mindy is an incredible cook and she's really really talented. 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.120 I would have liked to see her closer to the end. 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.520 But yeah, I mean I think that, you know, you 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.440 get to that point in your career where I feel 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:48.760 like I'm really comfortable in my style and what I've 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.960 achieved and I'm happy that I got to the end, 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.600 and yeah, and I think I've worked really hard to 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.360 get there, and I feel glad that I was. 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:57.200 In the finale. 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.680 How amazing is Mindy? Like I did this podcast with 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.080 her and afterwards I was like looking at flights to 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.120 fly to Byron, and I'm I needed to go on 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.599 a cooking spiritual journey with that woman. And I what 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.279 an amazing person to go to be alongside in a 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:13.080 competition like this. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:14.240 Well that's the thing. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.000 I don't think I could have gotten to the end 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:17.640 without having those friendships. 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:22.360 And I get this. They blew her Mindy and Aldo 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.840 flew in yesterday just to be with me to watch 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:27.800 the finale. I was telling my mom. 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.479 My mom staid bawling her eyes out, Like you you 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:32.960 realize how lucky you are when you have when you 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:36.839 gain friendships like that, and they're just so damn supportive, 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:41.720 like when you meet such genuine, honest, like caring people, 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.760 Like I think just winning mastership is nothing when I'm 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.120 walking away with such incredible friendship since it's. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:51.120 Huge, especially with those two. I mean, who does that. 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:52.760 Who gets on a plane to go and sit next 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.720 to someone and hold their hand. I mean it's you 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:56.719 feel like that's what you'd love to do for your friends, 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:57.720 but to actually do. 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:02.479 It, yes, I know, like, oh, it's amazing. Honestly, I 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:03.640 am pretty needy though. 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:07.120 So no, I think high maintenance, and I think we 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:11.760 ought to be. Billy seemed to be the one to 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.840 beat from the start of the competition. I think with 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:18.320 so much attention on Julie, people may have underestimated other contestants, 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.440 maybe like Billy and yourself. What do you think? 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:21.200 I think? 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:25.320 So, I think throughout the competition there was you know, 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:30.760 people that kept like really showing these incredible styles and 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.839 it's just the hard thing about Masters, you have one 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.000 bad cook and that could be sending you home. And 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:40.279 we saw that with Sashy and with Mindy and you 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:44.960 know a few other contestants in the show, and it's unfortunate, 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.560 but it's a it's a cooking competition at the end 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:47.960 of the day. 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:51.159 And so I think that probably, you know, Billy and. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.720 I had these tools to kind of like where like 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.360 that gets really tough, you can pull it, pull it out, 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:01.200 and get through and the pressure doesn't get to either 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.039 of us too much. So I think that really helps 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.000 in a competition like mastershaf for sure. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.240 What made you want to come back to the show? 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.080 I mean, did you have a personal checklist? 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.280 No, I was like, I'm not coming back, to be honest, 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.640 And you know, I had the chat with the producers 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:21.040 and I was nervous, Like I think coming back into 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.480 the show, you. 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:27.920 You obviously feel like you have something that you. 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:31.160 Have to prove, even though that's not necessarily the case, 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:36.120 you do feel like there's something that you need, some 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.120 sort of expectation you need to live up to. So 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.600 I was definitely nervous about that, but I don't know, 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:42.640 I felt like it was kind of the stars aligning. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.880 I you know, had some pretty massive loss in loss 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:49.320 in India with my restaurants and COVID and having to 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.080 shut down two of them, and it felt like at 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.560 this point it was kind of a bit of a 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.680 sign I feel, and borders were shut so I couldn't 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:59.800 fly back and forth, and I was like, you know what, 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:01.320 I'm I'm just going to go for it. I think 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.840 someone's telling me to do this, so I'm going to 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.720 do it. And yeah, like I think going through the 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:11.440 process and just like the experiences that I had with 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.720 you know, meeting people and gaining these friends that feel 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:18.040 like family and then getting to the finale, like it's 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.920 pretty huge. But I think even more than that, I've 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:25.760 always kind of been searching for really finding that heart 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:29.320 and soul of my cooking, which is me, and definitely 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.120 through this series I found that there was there was 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.480 a moment where I did the lobster dish where I 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.040 won the immunity, and I think it was Jock who 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:41.439 said that it was three Michelin style worthy and it's 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.160 kind of these French techniques with Indian flavors. 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.440 And as soon as I. 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:50.000 Kind of fell into this kind of direction, all of 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.560 my dishes just seemed to fall into place. And I 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:54.160 think it was just kind of like this switch in 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.079 my brain that I was like, this is my style 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.360 of cooking, Like, this is what I do and it's 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.320 not like cicating dishes that I've learned from people through 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.120 my travels or anything like that. So yeah, I felt 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.120 like that was a big realization that I feel like 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.920 I didn't expect I was going to get throughout the competition. 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.679 Well. I think competition based reality shows can be quite 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.560 a lot to put into your life. I like to 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.640 say to people, you know, when you decide to do 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.480 a show like this, you might not win. I mean 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.600 for km second, which is pretty good, but the show 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:27.920 will give you something. It'll shake up your life in 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:29.839 a little bit of a way if you can ride 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:31.640 that in the right way and you don't sort of 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.000 try and make it into something that it's not. I 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.760 feel like it on Earth's things. So you know, sometimes 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.080 when something like you know, maybe things haven't been so 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.600 great through COVID that you going and rocking another series 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.440 of Master Chef is probably right time, right place for you. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:46.640 Yeah, totally. 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.880 And that's the thing I think that just realizing that 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.680 when you go into reality TV. You have to kind 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.160 of just go along with the process and you do 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.719 find out what you're meant to along the way, and 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.199 it can be yes, so many different things. 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:05.280 I think it does. It is a pretty incredible experience, 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:06.520 and you do feel. 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:09.200 Like once you've been on one of these kind of shows, 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:12.360 you've become like this little you know, group of people 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:14.840 that you've all been through the same thing, and it's 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.240 kind of, yeah, changed you in a certain way for sure, 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.280 which a lot of people get something. Yeah, it definitely 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.920 binds you together and you, yeah, you definitely get something 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:24.320 out of It's kind of like a little bit of 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:28.840 a psychology session in a certain mind. 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.920 Anyone that hasn't done reality TV that's listening to this 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:33.720 is like, oh my god, these people have read way 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:35.679 too much into this, but it's true. 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.640 It is like you just when do you sit down, 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:42.240 you know, in these confessional rooms and like analyze your 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.880 thought process, Like we don't do that in normal life, 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:48.440 so never maybe that's why I'm an overthinker. It started 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.400 by my first season. 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:52.839 I don't know, Like I think sometimes it can be 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.439 a little bit like therapy, you know, because yeah, you're 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.520 holding a mirror and then you're having these self referential 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.640 moments where you get to sort of unpack things, and 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:03.679 you're right, we don't do that in our real world. 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:05.880 Yeah, it's very true, and it does. 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:09.760 Yeah, it's just like, yeah, thinking through your thought process 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.319 and kind of Yeah, I think it's a good thing, definitely. 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.040 I was chatting with Billy and I asked her, what 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:19.240 advice do you guys have for contestants, you know, coming 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.640 off the show, what does it take to survive in 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:23.840 the real world, you know, like in real food world. 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.240 I think the biggest thing is and I've had a 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:30.240 lot of conversations with the fans because yeah, they're just 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.880 looking for that inspiration. But I think the biggest thing 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:36.000 is to realize that no one's going to hand you 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.319 a career on a silver platter after coming out of 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:43.120 a reality show. You have to find your you know 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.280 what you want to do, and you have to go 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:48.160 for it. And the thing is, these reality shows give 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:52.520 you a huge kickstart and a huge platform to launch off, 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.760 but ultimately you have to do the work. 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:56.040 Nobody's going to do that for you. 0:11:56.600 --> 0:12:00.520 And yeah, that's something that helped me when I kind 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:01.600 of got out of Master Chef. 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:02.800 The first time, I. 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.880 Said to people, come off all reality shows, and I 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.920 use Master Chef as the sort of the Is it 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.280 a euphemism, I'm not too sure, but I always say, 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.280 you know, being on a reality show, it's like being 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.319 given a chef's hat. But there's no point in being 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.640 given the chef's hat, you know, if you haven't opened 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:17.880 the restaurant exactly. 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.280 And that's the thing. You need, the credibility behind you. 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.400 I think, you know, there's a lot of these contestants 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:27.599 like I want to be a like a television personality, 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.040 but I was like, but you need to. You need 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:33.319 to have the substance there before you can can do that. 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.600 You need to It can be anything. You could be 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.319 a food writer, you could be you know, have a restaurant, 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.319 or it could be I don't know, it could be 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:42.640 some sort of product. But there needs to be some 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.240 sort of heart and soul to what you do before 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:49.040 these other things come along afterwards. And that was, you know, 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.960 I was very determined after the first season of Master 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:57.280 Chef to not do any media or television until I'd 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:02.000 open my restaurant. I just didn't feel I feel whole, basically, 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:06.480 like I needed my what you know, gave me purpose first, 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.000 and then all of the rest kind of came after that. 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.720 So yeah, I think that's important for sure. 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:13.880 I don't know how you haven't become like a brand 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.840 ambassador for everything in the beauty industry. I don't, like, 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.840 you know, to the face of Ola, you could knock 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:21.920 what is cape she's got? 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:23.520 Like, keep it coming, keep it coming. 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:27.280 You need it today, you need it today. 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:29.840 I need it for the next week. I need it 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.160 for the next week, and then then I'll be all right. 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.120 But I guess, you know, with Mindy and that sort 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:40.720 of personality, I mean, she and Aldo, they both are 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:42.120 the sort of people that love to pick you up 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:43.520 as well, so I think, you know, you can lean 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:47.480 back into them as well. Yeah, how did it feel 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:49.840 to be a part of this finale with two women? 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.280 Was that important? Did that feel like something for you? 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:53.920 I mean, I don't know if it is. 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:55.840 Yeah, I think it was. 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:01.920 It was kind of an interesting season because the women 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.880 were actually quite you know, there's quite more, quite a 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.600 lot more women for the majority of you know, towards 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:11.079 the end of the season. And yeah, I mean it's 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:15.320 it's amazing. I think that I have a lot of 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.040 the you know, younger girls kind of looking up to me, 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:22.920 and and yeah, I kind of take it quite seriously 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:26.560 because I feel like having those those role models that 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:30.160 you can look up to and aspire to, and it's 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.960 it's really motivating, I think to see two women in 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:38.080 the finale, you know, mothers, Yeah, just really hard working. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.520 I think it's a really great thing to see. 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:44.440 And yeah, it's exciting that that can happen and it 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.600 can feel pretty normal now, which is amazing. 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:48.240 I don't know why, but it kind of looked like 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:49.600 at some point I was like, they kind of look 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:50.680 like sisters in a way. 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.200 I mean, you do look, I know, it's we're very 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:58.240 similar in our like body shape and hair and everything 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:03.280 we are. It's quite Yeah, it's pretty funny. I feel 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.000 even a little bit in our personality in ways as well, 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:06.880 like a little. 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:07.640 Bit, I don't know. 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.240 There was a moment as well where there was a 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.240 few like looks towards each other, which was a sort 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:16.960 of genuine admiration at a time of competitiveness, and that 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.120 was quite beautiful to watch for audiences to see that 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:24.160 we can be competitive, but we can be supportive as well. 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.320 And I think that yeah, totally, and I think we 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:30.480 all need to be like that in life, and I 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.280 think we get you know, we start to feel you know, 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.600 people start to feel insecure and kind of you know, 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.000 there can be a bit of that putting down to 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.960 other people. But I just think that if we're all 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.760 lifting each other up, I mean, there's plenty of space 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:48.920 in the world for work and for friendships that we 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.640 just need to lift each other up and be supportive 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.800 and we can all win. And I think there definitely 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:58.160 needs to be more of that going around for sure. 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.720 Yeah, especially for younger audiences to be able to watch 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.200 that on the TV as well. It's good to be 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.800 able to have, you know, good role models. I think, 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.600 you know, yeah, totally, we're getting intowards dangerous territory of 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.120 being very wanky here, but you know, I still think 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.560 it is very I still think it is very important. 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.240 Did you wonder if Heston, I mean, I know that 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.880 you had worked with Heston, I mean you'd had you 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.000 had your own interactions, but Billie having worked at the 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.680 Fat Duck, did you wonder whether that was an advantage 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.600 for her in the in this final pressure test. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:34.720 I think that you know, obviously we all have had 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.120 our experience. We knew that kind of coming into the 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:41.320 competition this time around, that we've we're up against other 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:45.240 favorites that have been working in the industry, so there's 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.240 gone to be challenges where people. 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.960 Have an advantage over others. 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.440 And yeah, and I'm sure it's kind of gone the 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:57.560 other way and different challenges throughout as well. And ultimately 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:01.680 it's a cooking competition and you know, pastry or savory, 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:05.359 whatever it is there, you need to be ready for it, 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.960 because we need to be ready for everything in Master Chef. 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:11.600 So yeah, I think that obviously she would have a 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:16.280 lot more skills in that area, but that's it's a competition, 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:20.040 so you know, it's I didn't go in thinking, you know, 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.640 she's got an advantage. I just went in thinking that, 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.280 you know, it's a pressure test, take it step by 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:27.560 step and just kind of give it everything that I 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:29.840 have and that's that's all that I can do. 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:32.480 Well after two seasons of working on the show, and 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.119 I mean the show has evolved over time, you know, 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.000 what do you think that they could do, Like, what 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:38.840 do you think Channel ten and and of mole could 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.240 do to try and spice up the show next time around? 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:42.960 I think that. 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:48.400 No, I mean it sounds like a stupid thing to say, 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.239 because that means it sounds like we're trying to make 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.280 it spicy where I know. 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:53.679 I was like, well, we could go to India. 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.280 I would love that. Do you know that it's so strange. 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.639 I was saying this to Sashi. You know, when I 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.720 was growing up, on Friday nights, we would always have takeaway. 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.720 It's quite an Australian you know thing to do a 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.800 Friday night takeaway night, and Mum would always say what 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:10.600 do you want and all that. You know, all of 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.960 our friends would be like they would want McDonald's and 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.320 Hungry Jack's. My brother and I were like, we want 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:20.000 Indian food, like amazing, that's all we wanted, you know. 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.560 Yeah, I mean it's just so damn tasty, Like I 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.080 think that. Yeah, once you get a taste for it 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:28.120 and you've got some good you know, Indian takeaway, it's 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.800 very addictive. So we had a huge curry night last night. 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.120 I made all of these different North Indian curries and 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.280 it was, Yeah, it was a fun night, everyone eating 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.480 with their hands and enjoying it and having. 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.919 Champagne darving and I'm jealous and I have Pomo I have. 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:47.919 You should have been there. You should have been. 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:48.040 There with. 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:50.199 Be. 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:51.720 I just turned up and you guys like, why is 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.439 this guy that we've been doing this podcast? Why the 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:58.440 hell is he here? You know us? Something I've been 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.800 asking actually, no good A good question to ask you, 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:02.919 I think before you go is sort of you know, 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:04.399 what do you want to do now? What is this 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.840 second experience of mastership conjured up for you? Like? Where 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:08.560