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Speaker 1: We love our next guest. You like to think of

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Speaker 1: him as a friend of the show. As Jonesy said earlier,

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Speaker 1: he's a world record holder that he's spent forty grueling

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Speaker 1: hours in the water for the longest continuous serf. He's

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Speaker 1: an all round champion, and not just on the board,

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Speaker 1: but he is a mental health warrior as well. His

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Speaker 1: Pender memoir called Swell being Everyone Deserves to Feel Awesome.

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Speaker 1: Lake Johnston Hello.

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Speaker 3: Hey guys, thanks for having me this morning.

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Speaker 4: Always a treat to talk to you, bro, Always a treat.

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Speaker 1: Have we draged you out of the surf, NA, not yet.

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Speaker 3: I've been waiting to this phone call because i just

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Speaker 3: really wanted to speak to you, guys.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad and I just want to ask you a question.

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Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time in the surf, possibly

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Speaker 2: not as much time as you do, but lately I've

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Speaker 2: just been a bit uneasy, just with the spate of

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Speaker 2: shark attacks that we had. Am I being a bit

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Speaker 2: of a panicky pa. It's about this. Do you think

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Speaker 2: how do you feel.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm a bit reckless and I feel something a

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Speaker 3: bit eerie about it at the moment too, you know.

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Speaker 3: And there's obvious signs, lots of fish running, lots of

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Speaker 3: sightings and the whales around. It's just there's something a

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Speaker 3: bit unusual about it. So I'm definitely treating it with

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Speaker 3: a bit more caution than I normally would.

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Speaker 1: Your story is quite extraordinary and as I said, you

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Speaker 1: are a warrior for mental health. You started this journey

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Speaker 1: through a tough personal experience with the loss of your dad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did. I did, And I just think that

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Speaker 3: it's so important. I think that mental health isn't a

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Speaker 3: thing that we talk about. It's the thing like, without

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Speaker 3: being able to function in our daily lives and show

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Speaker 3: up for ourselves and the people around us, we've got nothing,

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Speaker 3: you know, like, and I think it's it's an ongoing thing.

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Speaker 3: It's not just a day or a celebration or a

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Speaker 3: talk about it. It's actually put putting it into use.

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Speaker 3: And you know, take an action for yourself and for

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Speaker 3: people around you.

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Speaker 4: What is that action?

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Speaker 1: What do we what do you suggest we do?

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Speaker 3: I'm just doing the small things, the habits and being

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Speaker 3: aware of, you know, doing things with the attention for ourselves.

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Speaker 4: Like, it's not one way to do it.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's going to have their own ways to make themselves

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Speaker 3: feel better and feel connected. But yeah, I've got my

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Speaker 3: own little swell being routines and tools and strategies that

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Speaker 3: I use that you know, if someone takes them away

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Speaker 3: from the book a couple of people can improve their

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Speaker 3: lives because of it and see the best in themselves,

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Speaker 3: then it's a win.

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Speaker 2: I've often found that it just it's like listening to

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Speaker 2: people about what they're saying. Like I remember I was

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Speaker 2: out in the surf one data were made of mine.

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Speaker 2: I said, how are you being here?

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Speaker 4: And he told me it's a horrendous story.

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Speaker 2: He had witnessed a brutal assault that had happened in

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Speaker 2: his work and he just told me the story.

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Speaker 4: And at the end of it, I said, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: that's the worst story I've ever heard.

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Speaker 2: And he said, you're the first person that's actually not

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Speaker 2: tried to up my story. And yeah, I saw a

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Speaker 2: guy stabbed once, or I had to make them was

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Speaker 2: stabbed or whatever. And he said, you're the first person

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Speaker 2: that actually just sat there and said that's a terrible story.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard anything as bad as that, and it

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Speaker 2: really taught me a lot about that to you the day,

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Speaker 2: not trying to one up one story when they say something,

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Speaker 2: because that's what Australians do. You know, you hear a

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Speaker 2: terrible story and you yeah, well I had to make

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Speaker 2: that ad that was worse. We're a nation of black

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Speaker 2: cat is. I've got a black cat. I know mine's blacker.

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Speaker 3: Totally. But it does get overlooked because it seems so simple, right,

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Speaker 3: but you're either you're listening, but are you really hearing

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Speaker 3: it and feeling their story, you know, and being a

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Speaker 3: bit empathetic towards them as well. I think that there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of power in that. And then when you

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Speaker 3: do that, when you become empathetic to yourselves and have

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Speaker 3: you know, good practices and habits, you become empathetic to

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Speaker 3: other peoples. You be able to understand why they are

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Speaker 3: feeling the way they are and be able to be

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Speaker 3: there and listen and help them through those situations if

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Speaker 1: And also the thing you were just saying then, too, Jonesy,

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Speaker 1: was just to listen. Like I think, maybe it's a

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Speaker 1: male trait to want to fix things. But sometimes just

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Speaker 1: to let someone tell their story and say that must

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Speaker 1: have been horrible. Sometimes that's all it would take, I imagine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, just just just letting them have that moment

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Speaker 3: where they're actually accepting the situation that happened around them,

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Speaker 3: and to say it out loud and get out of

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Speaker 3: their head. You know, we get so caught up in

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Speaker 3: our heads we're just thinking over the time, and we

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Speaker 3: never really when we get it out and say it out,

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Speaker 3: then it's going to make us feel a lot better

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Speaker 3: and we work through it that way as well, rather

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Speaker 3: than holding it inside.

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Speaker 1: Have you got something crazy planned for me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? What's the next?

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Speaker 1: What's the next blaky joing in space?

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Speaker 4: No? Not quite.

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Speaker 3: But my wife, my awesome wife, she said to me,

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Speaker 3: I'm only allowed to do a record once every two years,

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Speaker 3: but we blew that out of the water this year.

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Speaker 3: I just finished the world record in the wave Paul.

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Speaker 3: I did the most surfing anyone's ever done. I rode

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Speaker 3: four ninety seven waves in twenty five days. So it

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Speaker 3: was ridiculous in the ten degree water. But the facility

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Speaker 3: out there at home Bush is amazing and open surf.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I've got something planned and it's not until

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let me guess.

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Speaker 1: Does it involve the water? Somehow involves the water.

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Speaker 2: Is going to be Blaki Johnson sitting on his lounge

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Speaker 2: for four hours. You would be able to do it

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Speaker 2: because Bathist is on Sunday. Mate, you can come round

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Speaker 2: of my place and watch it if you want.

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Speaker 1: Challenge that stay out of the water for that long.

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Speaker 3: Stee you on the lounge for forty hours. That would

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Speaker 3: be a real challenge for me.

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Speaker 2: That would be tough for you, Blake. It's great to

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Speaker 2: talk to you again. Blake Johnson's Swell Being is available

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Speaker 2: now in all good bookstores.

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Speaker 4: Always great to catch up with you.

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Speaker 3: Bro legends. Thanks so hopefully you guys can get in

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Speaker 3: the water and look after yourselves.

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Speaker 4: Man, take it easy, Blake Johnson. There