1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Now the popular Nightcliff Seabreeze Festival is looking as though 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: it's going to be canceled for next year due to 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: funding challenges. The organizers have taken to social media saying 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: that they heavily rely on sponsorship and government grants, but 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: the City of Darwin has cut its contribution by five 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: thousand dollars and have sent them a bill that they 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: can't afford to pay. Now, joining us on the line 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: to explain what's going on is Andrew Arthur, who is 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: the festival committee chair. Good morning to you, Andrew. 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, Thanks for your. 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: Time this morning. Andrew. How much funding has the City 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: of Darwin cut. 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: Well, this year's festival. They cut us back, as you mentioned, 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: by five thousand dollars from twenty five thousand down to 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: twenty which sounds like a lot of money, but when 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: we're talking about a festival that really costs half a 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: million dollars, it's not that much money. But at the 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: end of the day, for a little a committee that's volunteers, 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: we have to manage that budget and losing that five 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: thousand made it very tight for us to put on 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: this three day festival. We expanded to the three day festival, 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: and then we were most shocked to receive this power 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: bill for one thousand, three hundred and fifty dollars which 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: actually powered our security lighting over the three nights. 25 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: Yea, dear right, So how much was the power bill? 26 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: More than one thousand dollars. 27 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: One thousand, three hundred and fifty k d and it 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: was the four power points over mainly three days, and 29 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: as I said, mainly for security lighting, just to make 30 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: sure the infrastructure that we've brought onto the foreshore is 31 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: lit up and our security personnel can see what's going on. 32 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: Andrew, in terms of the funding being cut back by 33 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars from twenty five thousand to twenty thousand dollars, 34 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: what reason did they give for that reduction? 35 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: It's their budget. They didn't have the money, they said, So, 36 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I understand the counsel. They're very tight with 37 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: their budget and they chose to, I guess, spend the 38 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: money elsewhere. 39 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: I know there'll be some people out there listening thinking 40 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: how come the festival then doesn't have the money to 41 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: be able to pay that thousand odd dollar bill. 42 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, because as I said, we moved to the three 43 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: day format. We didn't get any extra funding and our 44 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: funding was actually cut from council. We've got the shame 45 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: amount of funding from the MTG, which I've got to 46 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: say have been looking after us after we had a 47 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: bit of a clash in twenty twenty two with the 48 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: anti government. They stepped up and they're looking after us. 49 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: And it was a bit of a shock to all 50 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 2: of us on the committee that Council was now backing 51 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: away from this community festival. 52 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: Where do things stand now? What's going to happen with 53 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: the festival? 54 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: Andrew? Is it not going to go on next year? 55 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: Well, we need a lead time. It's a major event. 56 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: We got over thirty thousand people to this year's festival, Katie. 57 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: It's a major event. You know, the liquor license applications, 58 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: the traffic management plans, bringing on staff for a short term. 59 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: It all takes time and a lead up. And now 60 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: it's getting very tight where less than six months away 61 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: and where we haven't been able to do anything because 62 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: you know, we've got just several hundred dollars in the 63 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: bank and be Counsel have said unless we pay this 64 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: one three hundred and fifty dollars electricity bill, then they 65 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 2: will not consider us for any funding next year. We've 66 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: tried to negotiate with Counsel. We've asked them for an 67 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: extension on the payment and they've said they're happy to 68 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: discuss an extension, but it still makes us ineligible funding 69 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: next year. So you know, our hands are tired. And 70 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: the funny thing is, well, it's not funny. It's the 71 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: tragic thing is that because we have a application in 72 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: for sponsorship with Counsel, we are not allowed to talk 73 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: to any elected members about the festival. So the elected 74 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: members would have been broadsided by this decision. 75 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 3: So where to from here? 76 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: I mean, is there a potential that you could maybe 77 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: go back to it being less days or modifying this 78 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: in some way, because I know that, you know, I'm 79 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: just sort of thinking out loud. For a lot of 80 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: those dance groups and those schools and that kind of thing, 81 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: it's a wonderful event for them to be able to 82 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: be part of and to showcase some of the work 83 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: that they've been been doing throughout the year. 84 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: It's true, it's a wonderful opportunity. And for all our 85 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: young musicians and dances, they work towards the performance. When 86 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: you've got a performance coming up, you practice and you 87 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: take your art form a lot more seriously. It is 88 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: tragic stage, you know, throwing together a major event, you know, 89 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 2: with less than six months lead time is going to 90 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: be even more stressful. Our committee, we're all we're all volunteers. 91 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: We have no paid staff at all, and so you 92 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: can imagine the you know, what we're all going through. 93 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: It's very nerve wracking. And to balance a little volunteer 94 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: committee has to balance this massive budget. When you get 95 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: you know, cuts like five thousand dollars, it just makes 96 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: everything so much tighter. It means that the volunteers have 97 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: to work harder, it means staff has to work harder. 98 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: And myself, personally, I'm not prepared to put my people 99 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: through that. I know that some on the committee are 100 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: still keen to do it. The committee, so we have 101 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: to discuss that. We can sit around the table at 102 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: a meeting and and we're going to make our decisions. 103 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: Tell me, are there other avenues for funding or sponsorship here, 104 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: because you know that seems like the you know, the 105 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: logical thing to do is to try and get some 106 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: further sponsorship dollars. 107 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:20,119 Speaker 2: Yes, well, we've had an outpouring of consideration from lots 108 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: of people in the community saying we had one bloke 109 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: saying that he'll pay the bill. But I guess it's 110 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: it's like for me personally, I think that this is 111 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: a festival that is on City of darwen Land and 112 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: we need them to get behind us. And if we 113 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: crowdsawce some funding to pay this electricity bills, like it's 114 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: saying to counsel, yes, you can screw the little community 115 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: group and charges ridiculous amounts for power. I want to 116 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: point out that we in a massive amount of generators 117 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: maybe twelve generators last year, over sixty kVA and we 118 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: power the festival on those generators. This power bill that 119 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: we've got, this is the first time we've ever got 120 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: a power bill from council. It's just over the top 121 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: and it's like if we pay it, is that you know, 122 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: justifying Council's stance and you know, allowing them to set 123 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: a precedent for us and other community groups. 124 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: Or yeah, like it's a really tricky one because I know, 125 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: even for myself when I organize, when our little committee 126 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: organizers run with Dad every Father's Day, there are different 127 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: bills or there are different fees that we do have 128 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: to pay council, you know, to be able to utilize 129 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: that area. And I know, like I feel the same. 130 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: It is tough, really tough when you're trying to organize 131 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: an event on a shoe string budget. But I just 132 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: like I sort of wonder as well though, with the council, 133 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: if they change it for you guys, do they need 134 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: to change it for everybody? 135 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: Well, the council will. This year they upped the in 136 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: kind support to fifteen thousand dollars, So they cut back 137 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: the cats by five grand to twenty thousand dollars, but 138 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: they uped the in kind to fifteen thousand dollars. We 139 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: were as a committee, we were impressed, but when we 140 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: tried to leverage that fifteen thousand dollars in kind, we couldn't. 141 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: We were I think we were lucky to get two 142 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: thousand dollars in kind out of council. So they're promising 143 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: fifteen thousand dollars in kind, delivering two thousand and then 144 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: charging us on that. 145 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: Andrew, can I ask you dodgy? 146 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: It's pretty dodgy? 147 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Can I ask you? 148 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: You did say in terms of councilors, like you said 149 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: that they're not able to discuss this now with you 150 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: guys or with the committee. 151 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: I mean, do you think they're being gagged? What do 152 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: you think is happening. 153 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: Oh, they've definitely been gagged. It's just isn't that. It 154 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: just sounds to me outrageous that at the community festival 155 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: we would like to communicate with our local members and 156 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 2: let them know what we need and what our requirements 157 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: are and what we can do. But according to the 158 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 2: council rules, if we have an application in with council, 159 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 2: we're not permitted to talk to anyone, any elected member. 160 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: We're forced to talk to the council offices. And this 161 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: is what they've done to us. 162 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Look, this is it's a tough one. 163 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: I just I really wonder where to from here, you know, 164 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: for the festival, what it means to the community and 165 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: in terms of it being able to continue on. 166 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, getting back to that earlier question you asked about, 167 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: you know, maybe reducing the number of days. The reason 168 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: why we increased the number of days is because of congestion. 169 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: That was a major concern of the City of Darwin. 170 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: And you know, the traffic management plan is a very 171 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: costly part of process, and by moving it to three days, 172 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: we're able to reduce congestion and make it much safer 173 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: for you know, the community to attend, much easier, to 174 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: get a park, you much safer. So we're happy with 175 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 2: that three day format. The way the way forward, I 176 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: guess is you know, we're looking at hopefully renegation, renegotiating 177 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: with counsel, hoping that they'll be able to see what 178 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: we do, see what we need, and maybe they'll come 179 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: to the party. It's the balls in their court basically. 180 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh look, I feel for you guys. I know 181 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: it's a really tough juggle. Like I know, in terms 182 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: of getting that sponsorship and trying to make sure that 183 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: you're able to keep it sustainable. There'll be people listening 184 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: that are thinking, well, just go and get some more sponsors. 185 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: You've got to be commercially viable like any other festival. 186 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: But I'm hearing you like on things like you know 187 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: that traffic management and on things like those different fees 188 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: that come up, and when you talk about the vibrancy 189 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: of the Northern Territory and wanting these wonderful events to 190 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: be able to go ahead, you know, you don't want 191 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: to be stifled by bureaucratic processes and different fees and 192 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: charges that you weren't aware of. 193 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: Yes, that's true, Andrew. 194 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: I really appreciate your time this morning. Thank you very 195 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: much for having a chat with us, and please do 196 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: keep us up to date on where things are at 197 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: and you know whether it does look as it's going 198 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: to continue on or exactly what ends up happening. 199 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: Well, we hope we'll be back in twenty twenty five, Katie. 200 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: Certainly it's this festival is it's so special. You know, 201 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: the last festival we had one thousand, eight hundred local 202 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: artists showcase and that is astounding in itself for Darwin, 203 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: who's a very small little place in a really up 204 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: in the top end, so having that degree of community 205 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: participation is quite astounding. It's wonderful. 206 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so many of those students and the youngsters 207 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: around the territory as well being able to take part. Andrew, 208 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you chatting with me this morning. Thank 209 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: you so much for your time. 210 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: Thanks for your concerns, Katie. 211 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 3: Thank you