WEBVTT - Where it went wrong for the Aussies at the T20 World Cup 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.400 The Unplayable Podcast is probably presented by Quantus, the official 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:06.920 podcast partner and the official airline partner of Cricket Australia. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:09.320 Once again this season, Quantas is proud to be flying 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:17.520 Australia's cricketers as they take on the world. Hello, welcome 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.440 to the Unplabled Podcast. Well Australia, they are out of 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:22.439 the TEA twenty World Cup, they haven't made the Super 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:23.040 eight phase. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:25.160 They won't make the semifinals for the third year in. 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:27.680 A row or third tournament in a row, and now 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:30.080 we have to discuss how it happened and why it happened. 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:31.280 My name is Joshu and I finger. 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.639 It's a pleasure to be back in the studio with 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.199 now former player Kane Richardson. 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:37.880 Richo, how's it going mate. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.879 Former player, current critic. No, it's good. We're in a 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.440 beautiful studio by the way, So no expense spared on 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:50.320 the Unplayable Podcast these days. But yeah, disappointing circumstances to 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:51.720 be talking about this week. 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.200 I'm sure you're up all night on Tuesday night watching 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:56.720 the rainfall down in Palla Kelly. 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.680 No match was played between Island and Zimbabwe. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:03.600 Needed as Australians for Ireland to win that match, but 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.520 the draw the split points is enough as Zimbabwe to 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:07.760 go through to the Super Eights. 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.199 Yeah, it's almost a fitting way for it to happen, 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:12.320 isn't it. Just to watch the rainfall for a couple 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:13.959 of hours, and I know the guys would have been 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:16.880 sitting in the hotel room just watching watching the rain 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:18.840 and hoping that the sun would have come out or 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:20.280 the moon would to come out and they would have 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.000 been able to play. But unfortunately, when you put yourself 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:25.479 in these positions and you're rely relying on the weather 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.480 not playing a part, then you probably don't deserve to 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.039 go through. And as you say, to three World Cups 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.280 in a row now where not only semi final the 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.120 last two editions, to not make it through to the 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.000 Super Eights or the next stage is so disappointing. 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.520 So no doubt those guys are hurting. 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.319 And unfortunately either have to front up for one more 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.280 game and finish their World Cups super early. 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.480 Yeah, I've still got Aman on Friday night, so that's 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:52.120 coming out. But before we get into the Australian analysis. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:54.480 Last week we asked for some of the best moments 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.240 in t twenty World Cup history. This one probably won't 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.720 go down from an Australian point of view, but we 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:04.720 had to great responses, including one from Kashi who said Afghanistan, 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.440 South Africa just this tournament an amazing double souper over 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:12.080 that we saw, which included Stubbs hitting the last ball 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:13.960 for six to take it to the souper over, and 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:17.160 then David Miller hitting two sixers and then goerba Is 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.520 hitting three sixes in a row in the second super rover. 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:21.799 I mean, have you ever seen anything like that? 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.399 I don't think a double no, that's that is worth 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.200 recency bias, but it's definitely a worthy nomination to go 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:31.240 to double super rovers free cricket, as they say, so 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.040 a worthy nomination. But there's been quite a few over 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.160 the time, and obviously I think has an Australia. What 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.760 are the Australian ones? But I'm sure the listeners got 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:45.120 involved in probably weren't favoring Australian performances in the past. 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:45.919 No they weren't. 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.040 But I mean, doesn't the super over when it goes 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:50.880 to a second superover, doesn't make you wish that we 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:54.080 had the countback still as it was in twenty nineteen. 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:55.840 I mean that's the way to go, isn't it. 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.760 Well? The bowl off? Bring back the bowl off always. 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:00.320 I remember watching as a kid and I was like, 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:01.800 I want to be involved in on it, or maybe 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:03.880 I don't because it'd be so embarrassing if you're missed. 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:06.639 Can we bring that back? Maybe? Yeah? 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:08.720 Maybe if the super is tired, then we go to 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:09.120 a ball of. 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:12.080 Fall off back for the count back. Do you think 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:13.560 the count back or maybe we just have an arm 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.480 wrestle or two up. 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.480 Kartik said that Koli is aded too not out versus 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.400 Pakistan in Melbourne. I was lucky enough to be there 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.840 for that game. It was an incredible, amazing atmosphere, one 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:29.320 hundred thousand, very very loud ground. Balal said the twenty 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.720 seventy to twenty World Cup Final his most heartbreaking moment 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:33.839 as a Pakistan fan. 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:37.000 Miss Burl Hark tried to ramp and got bught. 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:40.920 Tommy Flanners said Wady and Stein at the twenty twenty 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.760 one semi final versus Pakistan. 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:46.280 Again another ramp. This one was successful for many way though, 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:46.720 wasn't it? 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.920 And then we had plenty of people saying remember the 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:55.120 name Carlos Brathwaite. You've raising six six's and Mike Hussy's 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.920 sixty not out of twenty four against Pakistan back in 0:03:57.920 --> 0:03:58.440 twenty ten. 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.920 That's probably most, isn't it. I'm trying to think of 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:03.280 any off the top of my head that I had 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.400 the Stillness and Wide one, but it is pretty famous 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:09.160 now going back five years, I can't think of too 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:13.280 many more that capture the you know, capture the world audience, 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:15.400 like you know, the six sixers, remember the name ones 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:16.440 that live in folklore now. 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.799 So a good list, very good list. 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:20.719 Right, We're gonna take a short break. 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:22.400 When we come back, let's talk about the straight T 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:27.720 twenty World Cup and what went wrong. So it's been 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.440 back to back losses Frustralia at the T twenty World Cup, 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.880 which has seen them knocked out of the tournament. They 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.800 fell to Zimbabwe by twenty three runs and then they 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.360 lost to Schlanka by eight wickets. Only took four wickets 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.880 across those two matches and the batting didn't quite click either, 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:43.159 did it. 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:43.600 Rich Oh. 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.200 Although Mitch Marsh came back into this side for the 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:49.919 SriLankan game in Pala Kelly and got put on one 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:53.040 hundred run partnership with Travis Head. They were going at 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.760 twelve runs and over at the start of that inning 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.440 and things were looking pretty positive. But from there they 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:00.520 lost a couple of clumps of wickets. They lost four 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:04.200 wickets in five overs after that opening partnership and then 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:07.599 lost five to seven at the end, and then it 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.080 was on this Sanka master class with the bat, wasn't it? 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.240 I think? Yeah? Disappointing to two losses in a row. 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.240 If you look back to the Zimbabwe one, that's probably 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:18.240 the nail in the coffin. Having to rely on beating 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.560 Sri Lanka and Sri Lanka is always going to be tough, 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:24.600 especially when you're defending in the jew So, as you said, 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:26.400 the stuff you're talking about there, when you talk about 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.279 teach winning cricket, you need the flip side of that 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.800 to You need that stuff going well to win. So 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.520 to finish an innings well with the bat and then 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.800 flowing onto the bowling innings sounds obvious, but you need 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:38.760 to be taking wickets. And was a four wickets in 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.400 two games. I mean you're never gonna win. You're never 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:46.200 gonna win games not taking wickets. So two different ways 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:50.960 they lost the Zimbabwe game chasing different. It was a 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.479 day game, so they're under some asking rate pressure on 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.839 a a wicket that was slowing up. And then, as 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:57.960 we just said, the Shrilankan game with a bit of 0:05:58.040 --> 0:05:59.960 due around trying to defend a score that should have 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.480 arguably been forty or fifty runs higher, which who knows, 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:07.279 may have not made a difference, but yeah, just so 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.800 disappointing that that group will be hurting. The riding was 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.800 probably somewhat on the wall after the Pakistan games. If 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.080 we're looking if you're looking for answers now you go 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.560 back to the lead in Yeah, and there's a lot 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:19.719 of guys missing. But I feel like T twenty and 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.440 especially from the bowling side of things, is such a 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.919 hard game. You need your roles laid out, and the 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.120 best teams I've ever seen and been in part of 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.160 the bowling group had such clarity around what time we're 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.320 going to bowl, who's going to bowl, when, what their 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:33.800 plan is going to be. And that felt like from 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:36.279 the outside looking at this team that they never really 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.520 were able to get that sorted. And injuries obviously played 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.320 a part, with Hazwood and Cumbs not being there too, 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.360 but the guys who were selected were coming off the 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:45.840 Big Bash. 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.120 They'd been playing T twenty crickets, so there's no excuse. 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:49.960 Yeah, I mean I was going to ask, is the 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:54.000 Big Bash, which had another great season, is that adequate 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:56.680 preparation for a T twenty World Cup in foreign conditions 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.600 or should there have been more of an emphasis to 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.200 get all those players over to pack start for those 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.080 two matches and then the warm up games. 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.800 I think, well, there is always going to be the 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.320 argument with the Big Bash. You want the guys playing 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.400 the finals. We've seen instances in the past where guys 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.480 have flown off to play like a one day series 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.480 overseas and they're not playing Big Bash finals, and we 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.840 want them playing Big Bash finals. But also we need both, 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:21.840 I think, especially coming into a World Cup, and as 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.360 you said, in foreign conditions that are always a challenge 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:28.360 for an Australian team to play in. So I don't 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.960 know what the answer is. Well, yeah, scheduling is always 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:33.680 going to be tough. There's always so much content in 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.360 the calendar. But I think that's where that's those three 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.880 games in Pakistan, take the three losses out of it. 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:40.280 I just don't think they were able to get their 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:41.760 best team sorted. 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.720 They had basically five or six guys leave after that 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:46.800 Pakistan series, come back and play Shield cricket and all 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:48.760 of a sudden, you know, you're into the thick of 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:49.360 a World Cup. 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.360 You're trying to qualify with guys that have had two. 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.160 Or three weeks out of the game more in Tim 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.080 David and Nathan Elison's case, even longer. 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.560 So yeah, yeah, the writing was on. 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.960 The world You could kind of sense that things weren't 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:02.600 going well, and then all of a sudden you have 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:06.440 a really bad loss Zimbabwe and things you panic, don't you. 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.000 So that just seems the way it's gone. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.760 And it's so disappointing because at their best, you know, 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.120 their form in twenty twenty five was great leading into 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:14.920 this and it's almost like that were over prepared. 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:16.720 You know, they were ready for the World Cup in 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:17.480 November last. 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.920 Year, weren't they, And then they're kind of sitting around 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.600 waiting and things just haven't gone well. 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.000 So super disappointing. 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.280 Well, everything in cricket's about timing, isn't it, And just 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.559 felt like maybe they were just flying at the wrong 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.560 point of the calendar. But on the bowling point of view. 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:34.160 I mean you mentioned there's no Hazeler, there's no comments. 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.040 Of course, Dudy injury starts retired, and then all the 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.040 wickets in the past two games have come from Stuness 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:43.800 and Green. Very unusual to see Ellis and Zampago without wickets. 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:44.720 But then you've got your. 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:49.560 Connolly's and your Bartlett was there and Cooneman as well, 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:50.600 I think played that first game. 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:52.200 So there just hasn't been the wickets. 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.600 And you said you need to take wickets to win 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:55.840 matches and win World Cups. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:56.480 Yeah, you do. 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.520 And I think the Zampa ls part is big, But 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.160 I think those two it at their best, are the 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.320 defensive They're the defensive side of that bowling attack. If 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.360 the team is the team he went out in the park, 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.800 They're the two that are going to bring the They're 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:11.720 not going to go for more than you know, in 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.000 Ellis's case bowling the hard overs, but going for more 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.719 than thirty five. Zampa's case is probably hardly ever going 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.160 over thirty with the overseas bowls, and then you fit 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.800 you're attacking around that guys who do get wickets. You know, 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.160 we've again we've spoken about the Big three in the past, 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.920 but to never taken for granted, and this just shows 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:29.440 you know, when you haven't got Mitchell Stark there to 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:32.280 take wickets with the new ball, Hazeswood doing the same 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:36.320 impact coummens plugging holes around that it makes it really hard. 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.720 And we've seen Zavia Barallett do it for the heat 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.080 he had a bad game. Drshes comes in to play 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.480 that same role, doesn't get it sworted and they go 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.320 back to Barlow. It just makes it so hard. And 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.280 again it just showed that there wasn't clarity at all 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:51.079 with that bowling attack and it does leave a lot 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.200 to do on Adam Zamper and Nathan Ellison's shoulders, and 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.199 rightly or wrongly, they haven't performed the last two games. 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:58.679 But again I don't think that was their role. 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.200 Their role was to all the hardest overs, to be 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:03.600 the hardest to hear, and then hopefully the guys around 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.560 them kind of filled those holes. But yeah, they're all rounders. 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.400 Off had to do some heavy lifting and it hasn't 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:08.880 paid off. 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.840 And then the big talking point ahead of the Shranker 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.840 game was bringing in Steve Smith into the squad. Everybody 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.440 was finally cheering because there was a lot of ground 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.760 swell to get Smith in after his big, big Big 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.160 after his big Big Bash campaign, and then they left 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.400 him on the bench and they left out Matt Renshaw, 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.439 who in the leading run scorer from the first two matches. 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.280 It was obviously a team that wanted to stick to 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.600 their guns, of the big hitting team that had been 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:36.080 so successful over those past twelve months. But in the 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.640 end it's sort of one of those decisions that you 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:40.520 look and you say, well, maybe that was the wrong call. 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.480 Yeah, I think this hindsight, I definitely involved with that, 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.520 isn't there When they picked the squad was the Big Bash, 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.120 you know it when Smith was going nuts in the 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:53.040 Big Bash again, so you know, timing probably didn't work out. 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.520 I think the way they started with Abaut the other night, 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.360 with Head and Marsh, that's the way they played in 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.680 twenty twenty five, right, and that's the identity they set 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.520 up him. They be coming in at four, Green at three, 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:04.920 and then the all rounders through the middle order. So 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:06.640 I don't think he can argue with that when things 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.839 are going well. But when Steve's playing well in the 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.000 Big Bash, they changed the squad with Matt Short dropping 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.560 out of the squad pre real close to the World Cup, 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:19.280 which showed they are open to making changes, and then 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.839 with Hayzwood going down, they kind of waited the while 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:23.760 to replace him and then replace him with Steve Smith, 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:25.960 who doesn't end up playing it is. It does just 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.720 show I don't think they knew how bad Mitch Marsh 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.000 was going to be because Steve Smith has to open 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:35.360 the batting if he's playing for Australia. You could argue 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.160 in those conditions he can batman the laughter about him 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:38.800 and his best in teach and he creators open the 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:42.240 batting and that's where probably our two best batters, although 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.160 Hetty hasn't been in the best of form for a 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:48.360 little bit. So there's so many unknowns now and it'll 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.800 be interesting to see this last game what they do, 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:54.040 whether they do go the same again or whether they 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.240 go we've got to start planning for the next World 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:59.640 Cup because fortunately, unfortunately these things come around pretty quickly. 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:03.000 So do you start planning and you know, pick an 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.600 order that you think and you can't fly guys in 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.880 for it, and you've got your squad, But do they 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.320 start trying to change things up for the next edition, 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.960 or do they just double down and finish the tournament 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:15.360 as well as they can well. 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.480 So rare for Australia to play a dead rubber at 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:18.640 a global tournament. 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.040 But what would you do if you're in the selector seat? 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:22.120 Who are you picking? 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:23.520 I don't know. 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.880 I honestly don't know, because obviously again you need I mean, 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.319 Martian Head will be there in two years time. Mitch 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.600 is getting older now, but again he's more. He's a 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.520 better only now, so they're going to age. Will age fine? 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:38.920 Will Steve smith be there in two years time? You 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:40.760 could probably say you will. I know he wants to 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:42.640 get to the Olympics, doesn't he? So all of a sudden, 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.760 you've got three guys in that top two. Can you 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:47.160 find a way to get Smithy a game in a 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:49.600 different role and he can play in the in the future. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.880 Ren Shaw's the one that you know he had to 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.520 have been playing the other night. I think just his adaptability. 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.160 He's going to play a lot more in the next 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:00.199 he'll be at that World Cup, but he's got to 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.000 play a lot. He'll basically play all the way through 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.640 now to that next World Cup and make his position 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:06.680 his own. But he was the standout better that Yeah, 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.120 he was in the toughest position to Bart in the 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.680 middle order, and he's just shown how much his game 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.760 has grown. So yeah, for him not to play that night, 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.040 was he question that? Now again it's in hindsight, but 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.760 it didn't make any sense at the time, And the 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:23.160 selectors are going to have to own that, and I'm 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:24.920 sure they will. They'll come out and explain their thought 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.480 process and we'll judge them on that, and obviously they 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.000 know that. But yeah, there's so many questions going forward. 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.360 Yeah, and of course we're in Australia lose, you know, 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.600 we want to pick apart all the decisions that these 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.319 selectors have made a lot of great calls over the 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.960 last twelve twenty four months, haven't they, even with the 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.240 ashes and those sorts of things. Do you think though, 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.800 we're at a time where there's all these and this 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.280 isn't a selector based vertion, but with all the injuries 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.520 around the fast bowlers and players in general. Now with 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.560 obviously Tim David doing that hamstring and coming back, but 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.200 Hazer would commins then the young guys Beard Mean and Viidler, 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:01.080 Lance Morris and Aaron Hardy, all these other guys, like 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:03.720 is there too much cricket or are we do we 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.839 need to look at how we're managing the most important players, 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.080 which are fast bowls. 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.000 In other cases, is there too much cricket? There's a lot, 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.600 isn't that? And you would know from covering the game 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.000 like you can't. You almost can't keep up with everything 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.080 that's going on across obviously both male and female. But 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.880 it just shows how hard it is for a management 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.720 to manage those guys. And again we're talking about three 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:28.840 of the best fast balls that we've ever produced and 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:33.120 how much cricket they've played. So selectors, backroom staff, coaches, 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.640 their plan for those guys over the last five years 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:39.640 has been massive tick and unfortunately Starky probably retired at 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:40.840 the worst possible time for. 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.840 Us into joining cregut. Our selfish back a little sos. 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:47.960 Michael Jordan out of retirement, but I think he's enjoying 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.840 his time, his downtime. So again, you can't rely on 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:52.960 those guys forevery when we spoke about this month ago. 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:55.840 But now the question is going to be on the 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.240 guys in between those twenty five to thirty year olds, 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.880 who's going to take yourpportunity? And that's that's a pleasing 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:03.960 thing as a selector and as a coaching group. You've 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.520 got you know, you're going to see in the next 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.200 World Cup edition, who's going to you know, who's going 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:10.680 to put their hands up and be the next guy 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:11.280 for Australia. 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.160 And there's guys in the early twenties. 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:14.800 But I don't think he can rely on those guys 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.720 yet because they're missing, you know, Beard Minute is injured again. 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:21.600 Unfortunately Vidler hasn't played it all this season. And then 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.680 there's that good nineteen's crop that are coming through, but 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:25.840 you can't really pencil them in for a World Cup 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.400 in two years time. So it's that twenty five thirty 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.800 year olds. Ji Richardson's the one that I think his 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.320 white bull stuff has gone under the radar because he's 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:36.840 put such an emphasis on Test cricket and getting back 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.000 fifth for that. But I think if he's playing Test 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.280 Creed and Forte Kriger, he'll be he'll be ready and 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:42.840 I think his white bull skills are as good as 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.520 anyone in Australia. So I think he's the one that 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.240 really needs to take on that mental piece, you know, 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.200 take on that I'm going to lead this bowling attack 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.560 going forward into twenty cricket and hopefully Dayes would still 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.560 around two years time, but again we can't bank on that. 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.400 Yeah, Joe, I like that he hasn't sort of been 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:59.200 in there one day reckoning for a while as he 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.280 but definitely put his name down and now I know 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.720 t twenty cricket hasn't really been a focus or it 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:06.920 hasn't seemed like a focus for a straining cricket. Obviously 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.400 the focus on the ashes and Test cricket, which makes sense. 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.760 But then maybe you can speak to this from your 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:16.120 own career having to bounce between formats. Do we need 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.480 to get to a point where we are just having 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:21.600 players play one format? Is it too difficult to go 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.160 between the two and dominate at both? Do you need 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:28.160 to just delineate the two and really focus it on 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:28.760 what you're good at. 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.040 I'm probably the wrong guy to ask, because I really 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:32.520 had a good format. 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:34.880 But you had a career or a part of your 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:36.560 career where you were bouncing between red. 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.040 Ball and I think the cricket's different though, because it 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:40.960 is such a laid out schedule now where it is 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:42.880 mainly shield cricket. You played the odd one day and 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.480 then it's Big Bash exclusively, whereas these test guys, these 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.200 all format guys are bouncing all and they are overseas 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.280 doing it, they're coming back like there's a lot going on. 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:53.960 I think ideally the answer would be yes. But I 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.720 think at the end of the day, especially World Cups, 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:58.440 you want your best team. You're always going to pick 0:16:58.440 --> 0:16:59.960 your best team, and if it's a guy who's played 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.040 in the ashes, just gone and so be it. And 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.840 I always felt, you know, being behind those big guys, 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:06.879 always felt like, oh, in these you know, I was 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.840