WEBVTT - 🎙️ Andrew Bogut - Aussie Basketball Legend 🏀 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:08.880 Hey Legends, Welcome back to the Mason Cox Show today. 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:13.120 Another special guest, another massive human. Ah gosh, gotta love him. 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:14.920 Ever get a seven foot person on the pod because 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:17.079 there's not many of us rolling around the world. This 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:20.000 man is seven foot two hundred and thirteen centimeters tall. 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:22.680 His Croatian descent from Melbourne still speaks a bit of Croatian, 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:25.600 is what I've been told. And he's got his Rogue 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.480 Bogues podcast. You gotta check it out. Basketball, career, cars, 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:32.800 everything is included. There is absolutely going off. Played collegeball 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:37.159 Utah Utes number four retired there after two seasons, twenty five, 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.200 number one overall picking the NBA Draft by the Milwaukee Bucks. 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:42.800 It's played for Golden State Warriors, MAVs, Cavs, Lakers. King 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:46.479 Sidney King's twenty eighteen NBL MVP Best Defensive Player and 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:50.159 All NBL First Team. He has got an absolute resume 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:53.000 beyond resumes. He is the great man in one of 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:56.840 the Australian legends and sports. Andrew Bogant Welcome to the podcast. 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:00.240 Man. So I'm excited for this one. 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:02.480 Like I said, there's that I feel like we had 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:05.200 Jacqulen dall On and he was kind of similar in 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.479 that sense, where he played overseas, he's playing in the NBA. 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.560 Now he's playing in the NBA finals. I saw our 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:12.200 NBA playoffs and it's awesome to be able to get 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.120 these people on who've experienced something, I guess in the 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:16.640 reverse of what I'd done. You know, you've gone from 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.440 Australia over to the US and you're one of the ogs. 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:21.640 But before we get into all that, I've got to 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.119 ask I've been asked to h to ask you about 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.760 your Orange Valiant and what custom plates you had on it, 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:28.520 because I know you're a bit of a custom car man. 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:29.360 Is that correct? 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:33.679 Yeah? It was. That was the first muscle car that 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.959 I bought, as I got drafted. Funny story about that 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.759 one was I purchased the car and I had never 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:44.560 given manual the car's manual. Yeah speak ship for the Americans, 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.320 and I'd never learned manual because I couldn't fit in 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.640 that manual cars as a kid, And yeah, it pieced 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.920 me off. So I basically learned manual over one weekend 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.480 and then drove it. But the plates I got were 0:01:56.760 --> 0:02:00.960 it was basically translated to yebiga. All the Bulkan listeners 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.440 don't know what that means. It means effort in Croatian, 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.880 but it's kind of like a slang. But I believe 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:08.680 you can trying to get that fleet now he crows 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:09.240 that you get. 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.040 It's amazing because I used to drive a sixty one 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.560 Ford Falcon range Her, if you can believe that, and 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:16.880 that was no chance of me fitting in that thing. 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.200 I was like the big wheel was just huge and 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:20.560 you had to spread your legs just to get it 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.320 in there, and then you had the clutch. There was 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.280 always half put in because you couldn't fit your leg 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.880 in there. I can't imagine what you were like how 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:28.400 you get into some of these cars that you have, 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:30.280 Like is it I mean obviously you pulled the seat 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:32.000 all the way back first thing with the toll blokes 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.120 that we do. But is there any like Have you 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:35.960 been able to customize some of your cars to make 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:37.680 it for a seven foot player? 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.560 Yeah, the Valley it was pretty good because it was 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:43.800 a coup so I didn't have any trouble there. Usually 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:45.560 leaked my seat back as far as I could. But 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.520 there are a few cars that I just were on 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:51.600 my bucket list, and one was I bought a twenty 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:55.640 ten Shelby GT five hundred Mustang. When I was in 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.240 the US, I bought a brand new OFFT Deal deal 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.200 it a lot and I could barely fit in it, 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.120 and because it was manual to get to the clutch, 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.160 I was kind of my left knee was hitting kind 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.760 of steering wheel. Between the door and the steering wheel, 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.799 there wasn't a whole lot of room, so I still 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:15.880 bought it. And I had to drive the car barefoot 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.799 to get that extra bit of room. So I'd always 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.480 had to drive the car and flip flops. That's how 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.960 bad I wanted the cars. I'm buying this car, like, 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.799 I love this car, and I bought it and just 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:28.560 pick my shoe off to hit the clutch. 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.320 Just love to see you, the big man, just rocking 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:36.120 out with no shoes on casual class of cars. 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:37.400 You love the car, You got to do it? 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.400 What's your so? Is that your old day? If you 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.080 had a dream car, is that your dream car? 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:43.800 It was a great card to drive. My dream car 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:48.280 was probably always probably a walking throw used to see 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.920 walking through from the eighties, just because I always saw him. 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.600 My dad's a mechanic by training to come very specialist. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.640 So I always saw all these cars coming in that 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.520 I draw over that never thought I could afford. And 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:03.040 it was always woman I liked. So yeah, probably walking 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.200 short from back in the day. I thank for earning 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.160 one today, So get a. 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.600 Good fun Another passion you've gotten. 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.240 I've been told that you love your watches. Is that correct? 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.320 Is there any Is there any watch that sticks out 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.440 that you just kind of you know, is your go 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.200 to and if you go out, and maybe a special 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.719 event watch that you only wear so Oftenever, it's something like, 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.440 you know, pristine, pristine place you're going to. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.080 I just got the John Mayer roll Lex not long ago, 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:34.040 so the green Face data, and yeah, I was looking 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.880 for that for a while. They've funnily enough, I got 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:40.400 a tip that they're going to be discontinued, so I 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:44.280 jumped on that just before they got discontinued. So yeah, 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.520 they've done pretty well now. But that took me a 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.839 while to find out to force that. I actually found 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:53.560 it in the Caribbean Islands. It was secondhand, brand new, 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.320 if that makes sense. It was unopened second hand through 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.760 I found it through a contact of mine in the US, 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.279 and then yeah, I went through a whole a whole 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.520 strategy of how to get it, get it and get 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:06.120 it to Australia and all that kind of stuff. So 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:07.159 got it all done. 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.000 What's the one event you'd take it out too? 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.160 I can't wearsonally sometimes, to be honest with you, I 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.200 think it goes with a lot because it's all gold 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.880 and it's kind of, you know, elegant enough to not 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.120 be too bright. It can be, but yeah, definitely goes 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.479 well with a suit. But I sometimes just swear it 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:27.600 out casually during the day. I'm not one of those 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:29.840 guys that this one has to go with this. I 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.360 just want to take a different one out every now 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.239 and then. I don't have a huge collection of many means, 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.159 but I have a good rotation of five to six 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:38.440 home watching as though I like to work. 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.839 I'm very jealous. I'm very jealous. But we'll get into 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.640 the early life. So you play it. You're from Melbourne, 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.240 so a lot of listeners here from Melbourne and you 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.080 played Ozzie Rules and tennis growing up. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:49.200 Now. 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.680 He had Dustin Fletcher on the podcast also he did 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:53.280 the same. I don't know what the deal is with 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.120 some of the Todd blokes playing tennis is that just 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:56.640 kind of the go to when if you're a child 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.360 to say it thrown into the tennis program. Because in America, 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.479 I don't know anyone I grew up really playing tennis. 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.599 It was just never a thing. But for some reason, 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.839 every tall person I know that's here, even Chris Anty, You'll, 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:07.280 played tennis growing up. 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.520 For me, tennis is used loosely in my profile. I 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.360 still laugh and that gets picked up by people because 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.479 I didn't play organized tennis. It was more, you know, 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.760 going to the local tennis club and jumping the fence 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:19.640 even have to pay a fee and having a hit. 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.240 I just love playing tennis. I still love playing tennis's day. 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.279 It's one of my favorite sports to play. I'm not 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.599 a golf guy. I take tennis ten times out of 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:30.080 ten I like, I like constant action. I don't like 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.200 to hit, you know, play a shot in golf and 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.000 then you know, talk, chat, walk all that kind of crap. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.919 But I don't. That's not for me. And I did 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.880 yea astralable football, so I did a big kick. I 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.520 did good taekwondo and gymnastics. I did gymnastics because my 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.320 sister did it. So I got thrown in that bus 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:49.760 hated it, and then yeah, actually I ended up playing 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.920 basketball just at my dad's warehouse. He had a hoop 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.640 Jordan to the wall that was from the neighbors. And 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.400 then I wanted to change the basketball and the parents 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.360 were like, look, if you change, if you changed four again, 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.800 this is it. Like we're not you know, fees, equipment 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:06.520 all that, it's expensive, We'll loaded middle class. So that 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.200 they're like, if you change, this is it. And I'm like, no, 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.520 I'm all in basketball. And thankfully it was the right decision. 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.520 All right, what because you played for the Victoria junior 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.480 state team And was there a certain point I guess like, yeah, 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.400 you drop all the other sports, right, and then you 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.000 go okay, well you probably at some point probably knew 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:23.720 you were going to be frequently tired seven feet and 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.520 you're like, okay, if this is going to happen, I'm 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.440 going to have a high probability of being a decent 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.200 basketball player. Was there a moment I guess like in 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.840 your kind of early days you kind of just go, wow, 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.120 I can actually be pretty damn decent at this this 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:36.920 basketball thing. 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.480 Not really My development was super late, so I got 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:46.400 cut from by teams from eleven to fifteen sixteen, ended 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.720 up going to the areas and I was just a 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:53.120 super late developer, Like my development was from sixteen is 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:57.360 sixteen seventeen up until twenty and I'm in the NBA. 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.400 Like that's how quick it happened for me, you know. 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:02.360 And that's why no one could really believe kind of 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.520 the path that I took, because all the junior coaches 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.080 and all that don't think would be that good. I 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:08.720 don't think would be a pro all that kind of stuff. 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:11.080 And then some time and eff to work in and 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:12.720 as you know, as a big fello, it's kind of 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.800 hard because I had I was told young and then 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:20.280 I stopped growing at about twelve thirteen, just completely didn't 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.119 grow for a year, and I'm like, what the hell's 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:23.840 going on? Like all my friends were passing me, all 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:25.800 my teammates were passing me, and it forced me to 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:27.400 play a different position. I've played a bit of small 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.680 forward to guard learn how to handle the ball. But 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.480 the hardest thing, as you would know, was when you're 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.679 a talk when you have these massive growth spurs and 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.480 you know your body goes out of whack, like coordination 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.680 is what you're starting to trip over, Like you know, 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:42.880 you're doing regular stuff that you did every day and 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.480 it's feeling uncoordinated, but what the hell's going on? That's 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.920 the hardest part is training out of those those growth 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.959 spurts to get back, get some coordination back, and get 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.280 some touch with the field left foot before right, right, 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.600 so before left. This sound stupid to most people, but 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:59.599 when you have these massive growth pirts, I think it. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:03.360 Myke he's already a six years old, you know, he's 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.520 gone up and down through that like where his footwork 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:07.520 is really good playing soccer right now, and then then 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.000 all of a sudden has a been a gross bood. 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.319 He's falling over again, like he just you know, you 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.280 just got to progress through. But yeah, my journey man. 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.240 Like really it was like someone made a firework in 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.079 about sixteen seventeen, and just within a couple of years on, 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.760 you know, standing on the stage shaking David Stone's hand. 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.040 It's insane to me, Like and the one thing that 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.000 like I'm reading up and do a bit of research 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:28.640 on you, that kind of blew my mind as just 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.000 it seemed as though, within like the two three four years, 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:34.640 you had all this experience in life that most people 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.400 wouldn't even be able to dream about. 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.440 Like you go to you go to college, you know, 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:39.959 one of the first like Australians go over there and 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:41.720 be successful in college in the Utah youths for two 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:44.840 seasons and you just dominate and then you end up 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.439 you dominate so much you get your jersey retired for 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.880 which is pretty cool. Have you gone back and actually 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:51.760 seeing the jersey retirements they put it up in the 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:52.720 rafters or how's it? 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:53.360 How does it work? 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:55.920 Yeah, it's top of the rafters that photo said. I've 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.760 been meaning to go back the text Hall of Fame 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.880 induction in the future as well, hopefully, so I'm definitely 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.000 going to go back. But the last three or four 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.520 years hasn't been the best to travel, So I definitely 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.080 need to make a US troop over the next couple 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.439 of years. And I think our the reunion for a 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.480 Championship with the Warriors will be coming out produce him 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.120 into so probably try and tile that at the same time. 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.000 But yeah, Utah was awesome, man, Like, I had a 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.760 great time there, very fond memories of Utah. A beautiful 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.920 place to live. In my opinion, I really missed the mountains. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.400 You realize like once you leave there, you take the 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.559 mountains for granted because you wake up and there's beautiful 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.920 hills and rockies and whatnot. And then then he leave 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:33.800 there and I ended up going to Milwaukee, which is 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.840 flat as attack. I ended up missing those mountains, you know, 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:38.120 waking up and seeing them every day. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.000 They did, like you go into the draft, you drafted 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.280 number one, and we'll talk about the chaos and everything 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:46.000 else of like being a number one draft pick and 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:47.680 then being the first I'll trying to ever do that, 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:49.720 and then Ben Simmons now been the dot number one 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:51.959 draft picks since then. But you go from there to 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.200 having this I guess like did you feel like there 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:56.880 was pressure? Was it just because you were the first 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:58.520 one to ever do it? You cain't were just like, hey, 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.080 let's just let's get into it like this. Who knows 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:02.800 where this will go? Like we'll just kind of roll 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:04.760 into it and see how we it turn out. But 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.000 you're kind of one of the first, are you the first? 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.719 But from Australia like I said, but like internationally I 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:11.320 felt like there wasn't a lot of people are getting 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.400 drafted number one and then you know, you got yourself 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.080 and some other guys from Europe's start getting rafted and 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:16.640 I'm like, you know, Umber one, and You're like, okay, 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.800 is this is it extra pressure because you're not from 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.760 there and you're playing in a foreign league and you're 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.560 touted as the best player out there that is existing 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:25.080 in the sport. 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.760 Yeah, look, there wasn't pressure. I was pretty lucky to 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:29.840 go to a small market in Milwaukee. I think that 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.800 really helped kind of my journey. I think going to 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.800 la on New York with that pick would have been 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.920 much tougher, just because of the media attention, scrutiny and 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.280 up and downs, whereas Milwaukee was, you know, much more tame. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:44.800 But it was funny, you know, back back then it 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.920 was used in Australia, but it wasn't really you know, 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.640 it's still Footy on the front page when I got drafted, right, Like, 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.400 it's so weird. You know, there was no social media. 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.640 I don't think people in Australia realize how big of 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.080 a deal that was, you know, to to be you know, 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.400 just being drafted really is a big deal, and then 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.440 to be top ten, top five, number one with a 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.040 huge deal. But yeah, I was lucky that I went 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.800 to a small market, I think, and I mean, nothing 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.719 can really prepare you for it, Like people say, you know, 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.200 how did you get through it? You got to make 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.600 your own way and make the mistakes and learn how 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.640 to be with it along the way. You can do 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:22.440 every bit of media training, you can have the best 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.760 mental in your life, but until you're thrown into that limelight, 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:27.839 no one else can do it for you. 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:29.920 It's so true. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.360 And yeah, it's funny how you say that, because like obviously, 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.120 like you said, the football dominates like the newspaper here, 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.160 and then I find it amazing that people don't realize 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:40.440 how big some of the things that Australians are doing overseas, 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.720 and like it just it kind of blows my mind, 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.719 like we're somewhat insular and the fact that like we 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:46.880 just kind of think, oh, well, this is what's interesting 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.280 for you know, the Melbourne public whoever it is, and 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.760 they don't realize, I guess, how big things are outside 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:55.240 of the bubble of the country. Really, but I'm talking 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:56.880 about it. I want to ask you this because I've 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.880 always found the draft night hilarious, Like some of the 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.320 suits rolling around on the night, some of the gold 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.800 chains that people are wearing, like all this stuff nowadays, 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.640 this is a full production. Was like whenever you got 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:09.920 drafted up, there was there anyone that was just you 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:11.439 looked out, was like, what are you wearing? 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:15.080 Like in what world are you are you thinking? This 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:15.560 is okay? 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:20.240 That's a nightly basis in the NBA. Mate, You know, 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.439 it's not just not just drafts, you know, and that's 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.280 each to their own. But you know, there's I was 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:31.400 more kind of business, kind of you know, businessy nice suit, 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.679 nice tie. That was good for me. But I did 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:36.880 pull out a white suit one game, which is crazy. 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.680 But for the most part, yeah, I see all kinds 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.960 of stuff as you see now with all the you know, 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:46.760 the NBA, walking to locker rooms is basically a project runway, 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.880 you know, fashion show, but each of their own. Some 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.880 guys you want to be want to be models and 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.720 basketball players. You know. I can't hate on that. Not me, 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.520 definitely not me. And I was giving ship to a 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.560 lot of those guys. When I was playing with guys 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.960 wear funky stuff, I'd definitely I definitely get into them 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:03.880 and get after him a little bit. 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.160 You take ship, did you actually know what they rewards? 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.440 Like the game beforehand? And then just prep yourself to 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:10.800 like touch ship during the game. 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.640 To them, not so much as other teams would be 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.480 guys on our own team, I'd go after, what are 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.520 you doing? What are you wearing? What is that? 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:18.080 Like? 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.880 We're a couple of guys that would that would wear 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.720 some crazy stuff. Sometimes we pull out their outfits out 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:25.920 of their locker room, put them in the front of 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:27.960 the locker roof. It was really funky. Put it like 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:29.800 right near the white boards so everyone can see what 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:33.200 they were wearing. But then, yes, some guys got pretty 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.680 anty about all that, so turn it back. But we had, 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:37.360 you know, we had all kinds of weird stuff. Being 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:37.960 more in games. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.000 Who's the worst dress player you've ever played with? 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.720 I would say worse. But the guy that got at 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:44.200 the notice because he was a young friend of was 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:50.120 severely He used to wear some crazy stuff. Man, he's 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:54.280 you know, Nigeria from Nigeria, so he's got a good 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.680 mix of asking culture. I mixed it with America. But 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:58.280 some of the stuff you were just like, what are 0:14:58.280 --> 0:14:58.640 you doing? 0:14:58.680 --> 0:14:59.080 Man like? 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.240 So a couple of that team got into it. I 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.520 remember one game he wore he wore I think it 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:09.840 was three quarter three quarter pant khakis with loafers and 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.560 some weird shirt and he was hurt. At the time, 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.000 Mark Jackson was a coach. He walked out onto the floor, 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.760 come and sit on the bench of the game, and 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.800 Mike Jackson turning and said, no, go back to the 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:25.560 locker roombody. And the worst thing was that we were, 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.360 you know, before the game, we were killing him. But 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.600 you can't wear that. What are you doing, dude? No, No, 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.280 it's okay, you cannot wear that. That's ridiculous. Man. We 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.000 had the business casual at that point, so you might 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.080 get fined, but not only that, you're gonna get laughed at, 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.840 not laugh fine. And the fact that he walked out 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:43.360 on the court and the coaches just like, get you 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:45.920 back in the locker room of that after on made 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:47.240 it even even funnier. 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.560 Oh gosh, I really imagine just like a dive with 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.560 a tail between his legs, fucking back to the Just 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:56.040 I've got to ask you this now, being the number 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.400 one draft pick, bit of pressure and everything else, Now, 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:00.640 what was the one thing that it kind of sticks 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:02.600 out in your mind that was your welcome to the 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.840 NBA kind of moment, My. 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.760 Welcomes India moment came a couple of months into the season. 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:10.760 I was I was a rookie, so I had all 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:12.320 the rookie duny and stuff I had to do. So 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.440 I have to go get donuts before every shoot around, 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.800 I had to get birthday cakes or whenever it was 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:22.840 one's birthday. Just just mundane, annoying, earnly type stuff. Hey, rook, 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:24.680 get me a towel, Hey rook, get me a drink 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.240 about this or that kind of stuff. Right, that's around 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.000 me a bit obviously a number one keig even more 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.400 on me. Mother rookie was ears on Minnesota. I'm going 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.000 to speak the word English, and he was in the 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:35.640 G League all of the rookie years. So just me 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:40.000 solo and I hit a game where against the Spurs 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.160 my rookie year, I think it was in November, if 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:46.280 or somewhere around November early December, hit this walkoff game 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.600 winner against the Spurs of the previous year Chaps and 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.040 gets a locker room on front. You know, everyone's getting 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.600 around me, and I was just like, you know, fuck 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.520 your rookie shit, yeah blah blah blah blah blah. Right, 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:01.280 and one of the best was like, yeah, nice game, 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.240 I guess what, you're still looking tomorrow And I was like, oh, 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:10.040 just super that. And the next day I was like 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.080 mid rookie. So just the reality chick of like, yeah, 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.240 you're high right now, but you're still rooking tomorrow, buddy, 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.040 and you're still let get out of doughnuts and everything 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.040 that we need. So that was that was a nice 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:20.400 welcome moment to the NBA. 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.280