WEBVTT - FULL SHOW: Manifesting & Chat GPT Couples Counselling

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<v Speaker 1>A good pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.

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<v Speaker 2>Bady your work, our windows that my worris in the dust,

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<v Speaker 2>only good zabs all day.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't much, but yeah, I'm not our big and

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<v Speaker 3>what I want.

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<v Speaker 4>It don't matter where. This is the pickup.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Friday afternoon, everybody. It's the pickup with Britt Hockley

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<v Speaker 1>and Laura Burn.

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<v Speaker 5>And how exciting. I often don't have very exciting things

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<v Speaker 5>on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a very exciting thing this weekend, so do you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're in a box and I'm in the club seats.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, Laura and I are both going to the dual

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<v Speaker 5>liper concept.

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<v Speaker 4>You're going tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going tonight with my sister.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I'm going tomorrow in a suite.

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<v Speaker 1>We bought our tickets, like the good supporting patrons that

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<v Speaker 1>we are.

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<v Speaker 3>And Brittany I.

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<v Speaker 4>Did get invited.

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<v Speaker 3>You got invited and she's going to be in a box. Sweet,

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<v Speaker 3>you are invited? Me super jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you didn't get invited by Jua Lipa stopped trying

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<v Speaker 1>to spread these rumors that aren't true.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes I did.

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<v Speaker 5>She DMed me and I'd love to have you sing

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<v Speaker 5>with me, and I said, I wouldn't want to take

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<v Speaker 5>that attention away from you, but I'll come to the box.

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<v Speaker 5>To be fair, you got invited to the box as well.

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<v Speaker 4>You didn't want to come.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's not true.

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<v Speaker 4>My tongue, Oh my god, you literally I just watched

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<v Speaker 4>you bite your tongue. You'd sent me that was actually stuck.

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<v Speaker 4>Funny for someone that talks for a living. Your tongue

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<v Speaker 4>just didn't go back into your.

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<v Speaker 3>Say that what just happened? I had a malfunction. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going with my sister to draw ALB and she

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<v Speaker 1>bought the tickets for my birthday, so.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't going to ditch her to go into a box.

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<v Speaker 4>You could have gone two nights. I put your tongue.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so excited. That's what it is, brit Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a bit too early to tell, or

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<v Speaker 1>only a couple of days in, but I think I

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<v Speaker 1>have cracked the code for parents out there who want

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<v Speaker 1>to get their kids off the.

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<v Speaker 3>Dummy, the dummy fairy. The dummy fairy so hit us

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<v Speaker 3>a few days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, my daughter, she's four years old, Lola. There

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<v Speaker 1>has never been a child that's more obsessed with their

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<v Speaker 1>dummy than Lola. Like. It has been an obsession since

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<v Speaker 1>the day she was born. And she was a very,

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<v Speaker 1>very very fussy baby. She didn't sleep in a cot,

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<v Speaker 1>She only slept in a carrier with me, sitting upright

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<v Speaker 1>with her on me. And that was the first six

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<v Speaker 1>weeks of her life. Like, it was hard work. And

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing in her, like you know, little four

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<v Speaker 1>years of life that has ever brought her comfort is

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<v Speaker 1>her dummy. She will happily take a dummy over being cuddled.

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<v Speaker 1>She will take her dummy over her dad, like, she

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<v Speaker 1>will take her dummy over anything.

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<v Speaker 3>She loves it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ask her her favorite thing, she will say

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<v Speaker 1>her dummy. So we've tried quite a few times getting

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<v Speaker 1>her off it. You know, she turned four in February,

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<v Speaker 1>So we tried when she was two. We tried when

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<v Speaker 1>she was three.

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<v Speaker 3>You remember, it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was like I was rough man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was like she turned into a dementor she

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<v Speaker 1>my contraception. She screamed NonStop for six weeks. Anyway, we've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten to a point where we're like, she's four years old.

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<v Speaker 3>This is getting embarrassing. Now she's going to school next year.

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<v Speaker 3>She's got a boyfriend, she's moving out of home. We've

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<v Speaker 3>got to get her the dummy university.

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<v Speaker 1>So we decided it was time to implement the dummy Fairy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the dummy Fairy seems to do different things in different households,

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<v Speaker 1>but in our household we have had four nights now

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<v Speaker 1>of no crying, no dummy huge and it has been

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<v Speaker 1>a raving success.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, then tell us the people in the car that

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<v Speaker 5>might be wanting the dummy Fairy to come to their house,

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<v Speaker 5>what did your dummy fairy do?

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<v Speaker 1>You've got a caller. She's got to call the dummy

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<v Speaker 1>Fairy on the phone. You gotta give he a ring

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<v Speaker 1>because she needs to know when you're ready for her

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<v Speaker 1>to come.

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<v Speaker 5>She doesn't, dumb fairy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like Santa Claus.

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<v Speaker 4>Change that now.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not like they're Easter money. They don't have it.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't have a set date. She'll come when you're

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<v Speaker 1>ready for her to come. So you make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you've set the date. You've got to planned down on

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<v Speaker 1>a calendar, you do the countdown. It's really exciting. The

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<v Speaker 1>dummy Fairy coming is an exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing like Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like you're going to get a present from

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<v Speaker 1>the dummy fairy for giving away your dummies. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we replaced it. So we made like a little ceremony

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<v Speaker 1>about it. We got all the dummies to get we

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<v Speaker 1>put them outside.

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<v Speaker 3>There was five. We collected them around the house.

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<v Speaker 4>She's been stashing them like under pillows.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's just in case we lose one, o caase

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't have five at a time. So we put

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<v Speaker 1>them all outside. We made a little letter to the

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<v Speaker 1>dummy Fairy. I told her that, you know, the dummy

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<v Speaker 1>Fairy is going to take them to castle. And the

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<v Speaker 1>story just kept getting bigger and more elaborate. But Lola

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<v Speaker 1>got really excited about it, and she knew that she

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<v Speaker 1>was going to get rewarded for giving away something that

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<v Speaker 1>was really important. But it really was the cutest little thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll play you.

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<v Speaker 3>This, hey, Lola, who's coming tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>There is Are you ready to say bye bye bye

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<v Speaker 1>bye dummies? Giving them a kiss by ball by bye dummies?

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<v Speaker 3>So she made out with that last watch.

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<v Speaker 4>I really didn't want to get that one out.

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<v Speaker 3>She kissed him awkodbye. We put them in a bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>I put her to bed and I gave her a

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<v Speaker 1>present from me and Dad for her to go to

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<v Speaker 1>bed with that night, because I was like, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be really sad. He's a little toy

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<v Speaker 1>from Ummy and Daddy for you to cuddle when you

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<v Speaker 1>feel sad.

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<v Speaker 3>And she woke up in the morning, she got her presence.

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<v Speaker 1>We made it like a really special time and she

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<v Speaker 1>was so stoked. So I thought, Okay, day one that

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be easy. Day two is gonna be hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Day two is gonna suck. Anyway, Day two rolled around

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<v Speaker 1>completely fine.

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<v Speaker 3>She said one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>To me where I put it to bed and she

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<v Speaker 1>had it like her two little toys that she got,

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<v Speaker 1>the one from the dummy Fairy and the one from me,

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<v Speaker 1>and she goes, mom, I'm thinking And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you thinking about it?

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<v Speaker 3>She goes, I'm thinking a.

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<v Speaker 1>Dummy would be pretty nice, and I was like, sweetheart,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have any. The dummy fairy took them, and

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<v Speaker 1>she goes, I know that's why I said, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>thinking it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not doing it. I'm thinking it. She's just more

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<v Speaker 3>self aware now. And that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I genuinely thought it was going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>horror show. And it's been four days now, and it

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<v Speaker 1>has just been weirdly amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's because.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like I've got kids, It's because she's twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>It's because this.

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<v Speaker 5>Time she came to the conclude she's old enough to

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<v Speaker 5>come to the conclusion of making it herself. And she

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<v Speaker 5>I think just because she doesn't feel like you guys

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<v Speaker 5>are taking something from her, she made the decision like

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<v Speaker 5>she's like, cool, I'm ready and.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand what this exchange is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think that that's it. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>the secret in the thoughts, right, like, my secret is.

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<v Speaker 4>Not to let your kids still have dumby.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're not shamey.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not shaming you, but I don't want the listeners

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<v Speaker 5>to be like, hey, Lauris said, the secret is to

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<v Speaker 5>keep a dummy to your face.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds for shaming.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's about letting the kids have a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of sense of control and feeling as though you're

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<v Speaker 1>not just taking away from them, but that it's something

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<v Speaker 1>to be excited about when the dummy fairy comes that

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<v Speaker 1>even though they're losing that thing they want, they feed

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<v Speaker 1>off how you react to something. And the other times

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<v Speaker 1>it's been super stressful, it's been like a countdown and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's like, Okay, no more dummy, and it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like a punishment, whereas this felt like a reward. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm too early to tell you exactly how it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go down, but it has been surprisingly amazing

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<v Speaker 1>so far. I'm happy for you, and I'm actually more

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<v Speaker 1>happy for Lola same and I'm happy for our dental

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<v Speaker 1>bills for the future.

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<v Speaker 4>The vinears she doesn't need to get.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, we've been talking about them a bit of.

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<v Speaker 4>A content subject.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say here in the break at the pickup,

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<v Speaker 5>manifestation that idea of like putting out to the universe

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<v Speaker 5>what you want and it bringing you everything that you

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<v Speaker 5>need and everything you desire. I personally believe in manifestation,

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<v Speaker 5>and Laura, you sort of caught.

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<v Speaker 4>Bullshit on it when I.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about it. I don't caught bullshit on it. I

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<v Speaker 3>just don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily believe that, like thinking good things will

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<v Speaker 1>make good things happen. And I've watched The Secret, I've

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<v Speaker 1>read the book, and like, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys know what I'm talking about, but The Secret is

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<v Speaker 1>like the there was a very big book and TV

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<v Speaker 1>series that came out or It was like one episode

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<v Speaker 1>that came out quite a few years ago all around manifesting,

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<v Speaker 1>and the essence of that was kind of like, think

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<v Speaker 1>good things and good things will happen. Think about money

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<v Speaker 1>raining down on you and you'll get really wealthy. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was just for me, it's just too simple.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not what manifestation is.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, another doing it wrong? Why is the money

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<v Speaker 3>not raining down on me?

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<v Speaker 4>That explains a lot that checks out.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me give you this is not an example of manifestation,

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<v Speaker 5>but this is what started the conversation, the idea of

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes willing something into the universe. But it doesn't always

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<v Speaker 5>have to be positive. It could be something that you've

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<v Speaker 5>thought about or been talking about or putting that energy

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<v Speaker 5>out so many times, so it can be negative.

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<v Speaker 4>But the other day, when if you've.

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<v Speaker 5>Been following along, my dog Delilah got really really sick.

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<v Speaker 5>But that morning, driving to work with a work colleague,

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, do you know what's crazy? I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>my dog.

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<v Speaker 4>Delilah, she's four years old. I said.

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<v Speaker 5>She has never been sick. I have never had to

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<v Speaker 5>take her to the bet, She's never had anything wrong

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<v Speaker 5>with her. She's been the perfect dog and my friend

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<v Speaker 5>was like, yeah, that's amazing. Then I got home from

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<v Speaker 5>work that day and Delilah, I've never seen her more

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<v Speaker 5>sick in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>She was not manifesting. No, that's not a coincidence.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not.

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<v Speaker 5>But it is a form of willing something into the

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<v Speaker 5>universe and it's not manifesting. But it started the conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>And then producer, Gracie, you were saying you did something

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<v Speaker 5>crazy the other day too.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, literally yesterday I was talking to someone in the office.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, I've never been asked to do jury

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<v Speaker 6>duty and I'd kind of love to do it. And

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<v Speaker 6>then I got home that day to a letter telling

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<v Speaker 6>me that I'm officially the jury duty.

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<v Speaker 3>Rolls crazy. Hey, everyone, I'd really like to win the lotto.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't work like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I just to me, I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>What you're saying, and I understand that there's situations where

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<v Speaker 1>people like, don't jinx it, don't say that, or it

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<v Speaker 1>might happen, yeah, a personal jinx.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that this is a coincidence.

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<v Speaker 1>More so with those sorts of situations, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>it's very unlikely. The likelihood of that happening might be

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<v Speaker 1>one and a bazillion. However, like horrible coincidences and great

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<v Speaker 1>coincidences happen all the time. So I'm just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>think that sometimes we look for things that validate and

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<v Speaker 1>like reinforce this idea that we have more control than

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<v Speaker 1>we do.

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<v Speaker 4>But don't think you can speak something into an existence.

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<v Speaker 5>No, Okay, I did a proper manifestation course years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I spent some time with a monk, learnt so much stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I started.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually putting it into practice years ago, and I don't

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<v Speaker 5>do it so much anymore. I believe I manifested my

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<v Speaker 5>fiance Ben when I did this manifestation course. I wrote

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<v Speaker 5>down in my notes because a big part of it

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<v Speaker 5>is it's not just writing down what you want, but

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<v Speaker 5>it's then consciously thinking it.

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<v Speaker 4>You still work towards it. You still it's the putting what.

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<v Speaker 5>You want into existence, like you still have to work

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<v Speaker 5>and put efforting.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the thing that I think is the very

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<v Speaker 1>clear determiner of Like when you say you can't speak

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<v Speaker 1>things into existence, I don't think you can speak things

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<v Speaker 1>into existence.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you can have an intention.

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<v Speaker 1>You can write that intention down and then you can

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<v Speaker 1>focus all your goals to align.

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<v Speaker 3>To that intention.

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<v Speaker 1>But that to me is not just like spontaneously going I.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to go on a holiday to the Mail Dives

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<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden you win one and

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<v Speaker 2>you're there, Like, I don't think that that's what happens. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote, I think you've got a book the ticket yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>and then get your ass to the Mount Dives and

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<v Speaker 2>then wow, that's a coincidence.

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<v Speaker 5>I wrote down years ago, thank you for giving me

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<v Speaker 5>my partner B because your name's Brittany.

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<v Speaker 4>No, my brother initial, my fiancee's name is Ben. I

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<v Speaker 4>manifested Ben yearsgo.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't care what anyone says that was the manifestation

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<v Speaker 5>I am.

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<v Speaker 3>This hasn't convinced me.

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<v Speaker 5>You just said you sort of thought you manifested your

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<v Speaker 5>Maddie Jay, your husband.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I'm different to that though.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say, I don't mean manifested in the way

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<v Speaker 1>of like thinking it.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys know, we had a moment where we met prior,

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<v Speaker 1>so we had like a real moment in chemistry prior

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<v Speaker 1>to being on the Bachelor, and then I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a massive coincidence that he was there and that

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<v Speaker 1>he was the person who was the bachelor. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was like the fact that I was in there,

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<v Speaker 1>that I was like very intented in staying that.

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<v Speaker 3>I very much in my head was like I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to end up with this person.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be my definition of saying okay, I manifested

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<v Speaker 1>that in happening because but in the same way, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>is it or isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>I just like I set my eyes on a goal

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<v Speaker 3>and I achieved my goal, and in that case, the

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<v Speaker 3>goal was my husband, and here we are. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I am.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I am, But that's not just a mystic,

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<v Speaker 4>it's synic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not to say that I'm not and can't be

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<v Speaker 1>positive about these things. And I'm sure that there are

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<v Speaker 1>so many people who have really incredibly positive manifestation stories.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the reason why I feel so unsure about

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<v Speaker 1>it is because there's so many people who have really

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<v Speaker 1>challenging lives, really horrible things happen, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that those things happen because they're not good enough at

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<v Speaker 1>manifesting themselves out of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course not.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why I'm I kind of it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>good enough solution for me, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's not. It's not my solution for world peace.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not what the conversation is.

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<v Speaker 3>Here today anyway. But I'm sorry, that's serious. Great.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you, hear me. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever been to couples therapy?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 5>I have been to therapy, and my partner has been

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<v Speaker 5>to therapy, but we've not been at the same time together.

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<v Speaker 4>It was an individual thing.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the reasoning for not wanting to go to

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<v Speaker 1>Like did you need to go together for.

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<v Speaker 3>Your relationship extent?

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<v Speaker 4>We should have?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>And then and then why they just.

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<v Speaker 5>Didn't want to They were going for something else as well,

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<v Speaker 5>And I said, we obviously had our own problems, and

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, hey, we should go together sometimes I

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<v Speaker 5>think'd be really great.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, no, no, hang on, have you

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<v Speaker 1>I have been to couples therapy with an X?

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went to two sessions with an ex boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>and I had a really tricky experience because he had

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<v Speaker 1>cheated on me if times, actually a lot of times,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was very narcissistic with his behavior. And I

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<v Speaker 1>found that in the therapy session he managed to victimize

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<v Speaker 1>himself and talk about all the reasons why he can't

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<v Speaker 1>be faithful and it's so hard for him, and life

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<v Speaker 1>is blah blah blah. And I found myself just sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there feeling as though I was somehow being made to

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<v Speaker 1>not be the supportive enough personal It was a bizarre experience, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think for you, not good for me. But

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<v Speaker 1>look the reason why we're talking about this. A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago, we were speaking to Tara Pavlovich. She

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<v Speaker 1>was advocating for couples to go to therapy and talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how it had been a life saver for her

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<v Speaker 1>and her relationship with her husband. But I came across

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<v Speaker 1>an article which was talking about couple therapy, firstly, how

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<v Speaker 1>expensive it can be, how it's not accessible to everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and so how a lot of couples are now turning

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<v Speaker 1>to chat GPT for their relationship advice and relationship therapy.

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<v Speaker 5>My first thought when I hear that is that that

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<v Speaker 5>is wild that you would go and put your relationship

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<v Speaker 5>in the hands of a robot.

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<v Speaker 2>Like to me, they've never been in a relationship, You're

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<v Speaker 2>a phone, Like, what experience do you have?

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<v Speaker 4>You have a hard drive, not a hard drive. Oh sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>that was off the spot, off the car.

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<v Speaker 3>Was really a free plan.

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<v Speaker 4>That's okay, But my first thought is that that's insane.

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<v Speaker 5>Having said that, I do wonder if there is a

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<v Speaker 5>part of it where people might feel more inclined to

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<v Speaker 5>go or might feel more inclined to be really honest

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<v Speaker 5>to get like an unbiased opinion from someone that's not human.

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<v Speaker 5>I think sometimes people feel like a bit of shame

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<v Speaker 5>and a bit shy and bit reserved when they're actually

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<v Speaker 5>speaking to another human, like that's gonna be laced in judgment,

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<v Speaker 5>even though we know psychologists and therapists don't have that judgment.

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<v Speaker 5>People find it hard sometimes to talk to other people.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, you know, you go to a psychologist and

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<v Speaker 1>you expect them to be unbiased, but they're people. People

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<v Speaker 1>can be biased. And I will also always feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I have to like be careful around my experience because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a very unique one and I

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<v Speaker 1>was dealing with a very unique type of partner at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, which was like the issue I had is

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<v Speaker 1>that I kind of sat there and felt like it

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<v Speaker 1>was all I was in a bit of a twilight

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<v Speaker 1>zone with how it had managed to be flipped on me.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think because I'm not the problem clearly, got

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<v Speaker 3>do you think that.

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<v Speaker 4>Chat GPT can be biased?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is the thing, right, There was a couple

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<v Speaker 1>who has been talking about using it. So his name's Marcus,

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<v Speaker 1>her name is Brie, and they didn't want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to an actual therapist or to a psychologist, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they've been using chat GPT. They said that the responses

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<v Speaker 1>from the AI therapist are soft and non judgmental, and

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<v Speaker 1>also that it's allowed them to kind of air out

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things that they have had wrong in

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<v Speaker 1>their relationships and get an unbiased perspective, even if that perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>Is not from a human.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me ask, hey, Siri, can chat GPT be biased?

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<v Speaker 7>Hi? I aim to be as unbiased and neutral as possible. However,

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<v Speaker 7>since I'm trained on a wide range of data from

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<v Speaker 7>the Internet, there might be occasional biases and the information

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<v Speaker 7>I provide I always strive to give balanced and fair responses.

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<v Speaker 1>My worry with this is is like you go to

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<v Speaker 1>a therapist, a person who's able to mediate and actually

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<v Speaker 1>like give advice, but give advice based on like the

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<v Speaker 1>emotion and the empathy that is required, whereas like chat

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<v Speaker 1>GPT doesn't have the ability to do that. It also

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have the ability to monitor the emotional outcome of

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<v Speaker 1>its patients or the people who are seeking that advice.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I feel like there are a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>That chat GPT are very good at, and it can

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<v Speaker 1>fill a lot of gaps.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think therapy is one of them.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, let's not replace psychologists and therapists just yet.

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<v Speaker 3>We need or GPS because I think that's also pretty important.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we need them all.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's get out of here.

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<v Speaker 4>That's us done for the day.