1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: He is the renowned Australian supermodel who's graced the covers 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: of over seven hundred magazines around the world. She's walked 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: the runways for top designers. Elle McPherson has pulled back 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: the curtain for an inside scoop into her life with 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: a new book called Funnily Enough Elle, and she joins 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: us now. Elle McPherson high Hida, Elle, I'm the biggest 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: headline since you've released this book has been about your 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: holistic approach to your cancer. Were you expecting this kind 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: of response and this kind of backlash to that? 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Well, I wasn't expecting the focus on that one chapter, 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: as there's eighteen chapters in the book, and you know, 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: it's been really as difficult as it's been because there's 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: been a lot of mistruths or people that haven't really 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: read the book sort of just writing their opinion or 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, just misinformation to some extent. I'm really pleased 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: that it's sparking discussions because with discussion comes evolution and growth, 18 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: and you know that is the great space to be in. 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've read that particular chapter. I actually I 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 3: read it twice just to, you know, so it's clear 21 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: in my head. And what I got out of it 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: was that you say in it, there's no right way, 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: just the right way for me. So that's that's what 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: I took. 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: Away from it, and that's you know, I was very 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: clear that I wasn't giving advice to anybody. I was 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: sharing my experience. And if you if when you read 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: the chapter in context with everything else, you'll see that 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: it's really not even about cancer. The true meaning of 30 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: that chapter is how the decision when you're in gripped 31 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: with fear, when you don't know what to do, you know, 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: when you're in adversity, And it's not I use the 33 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: example the context of cancer, but it's really about making 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: a decision and how to navigate life through the ups 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: and downs. And I think that's a point that's been missed. 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: It's quite easy to sort of jump on the what 37 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: did I do? But really the question is how did 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: I get to the decision I made, not what did 39 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: I do? 40 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: The nickname the body is such a hard thing to 41 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: live up to, and you do it every day. Have 42 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: there been mornings where you're dropping the kids at school 43 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: or you want to sit at the beach and need 44 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: a packet of chips. You're going, Oh, I wish I 45 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: didn't have to be the body today. 46 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: I don't even think about the body in that sense 47 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: unless I'm thinking about being well, which is a very important, 48 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: you know, kind of attitude for me and state of 49 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: mind for me. It was a fantastic monika, and I'm 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: so grateful that Time magazine sort of coins out in 51 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six because to some extent I build a 52 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: career from it. And it wasn't because I believed it. 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: I believed in the press in a sense, the power 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: of the press in that sense. But I didn't wake 55 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: up in the morning and go, oh my god, your body, 56 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: come on and go out and be the body. 57 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 3: If I was like that, I'd be going. 58 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: Never. I've never been that. I've never been that girl, 59 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: you know. I've always been sort of more in my 60 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: personal life anyway, more discrete and understated and natural. 61 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: I must say that story about you, Christy Brinkley and 62 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 3: Whitney Houston standing around a piano singing with Billy Joel 63 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 3: and Whitney Houston was a model at that time. I 64 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: wasn't even aware of that. Billy Joel gave you a 65 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: tape of Whitney. Houston said, this girl is going to 66 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: be huge, Like it's almost like a forest gump existence 67 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: with the world that you've got there. 68 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one of my first jobs, can you imagine? 69 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: And then and then I then I just got it 70 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: in my head that you know, the photographer didn't like 71 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: me very much, and so I might as well just 72 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: go home. And I jumped on plane and went home 73 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: and left everybody in the in the in the in 74 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: the dark. And as a consequence, the person that I 75 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: was living with, my agent, just said, oh, listen, you 76 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: can't behave like that. And I learned a lot through 77 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: that experience. So it wasn't really about Christie and Whitney. 78 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: It was about what I learned. And what I learned 79 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: is I need to show up and give it my 80 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: best and work as a team and keep my private 81 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: life discreete which I have done all my life. And yeah, 82 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: that experience was really the foundation of many of the 83 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: decisions I made as I matured in life. 84 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: But you actually got on Billy Jungerle's private plane though, 85 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: so I would say, like a. 86 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: Billy jo, I never been on a private place. 87 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 3: I think I would say I'm going to get offer. Yeah, 88 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: it's good. But also you lived with him, and then 89 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: Christy Brinkley came along, and you just said, well, I 90 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: Understy's flatmate. 91 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: Well, let's let's clarify. Robert Stigwood had an apartment on 92 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: Central Park West. Billy lived on one floor. I lived 93 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: on the other floor. It was a duplex. Right. There 94 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: might have been some sort of passing of ships in 95 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: the night and the next thing I I know, he's 96 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: dating Christy Brinkley. 97 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: Gets all the luck in the world that guy as 98 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: a private person? Was it very hard to write this 99 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: book because you knew that there'd be stories that people 100 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: wanted to know. How was the process and did you 101 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: get people on the phone saying can you not tell 102 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: that one? 103 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: It wasn't a difficult process because there was purpose in 104 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: writing the book. The book isn't about my life. It's 105 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: not a tell all a salacious memoir of you know, 106 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: event after event and then I did this, and then 107 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: I did that, and I did this. That's not what 108 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: the book was ever intended to be, and it's not 109 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: what it is. 110 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 3: When I was a kid, when that tab commercial came 111 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: out and my dad looking at it. Remember my dad 112 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: looking at the TV and you know this is back 113 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: in the days when you just had one TV in 114 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 3: the house, and he's drinking a cup of tea and 115 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: it actually just ran all down his chin. 116 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: That could be like another version of the TAB commercial. 117 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: You'll have to do a T commercial now, this is 118 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: your next thing. Well, we're so pleased. The last time 119 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: we spoke to you would have been just before you 120 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 3: discovered that you had cancer, So we're so pleased that 121 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: you've come out on the other side of this. 122 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: Please for your happy results, high to all. 123 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 3: The family, and you look after yourself. 124 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: Okay, thanks you Lord, Bye, thank you Ell Bye. 125 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: L's brook L is out now.