WEBVTT - Summer Ask Uncut with Britt and Ben!

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Undercut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Brittany and I'm Ben. Well, there you go, Ben's here.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben is in the house. So we are on our

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote Christmas break, but we never managed to do

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<v Speaker 1>a full break, so we've been drip feeding some little

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<v Speaker 1>extra episodes for you. And Ben was very excited to

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<v Speaker 1>hear that you guys wanted him to guest host and

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<v Speaker 1>ask gun cut.

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<v Speaker 2>God only knows why people want to have my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'll try and do my best.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll see how it goes. So we are recording

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<v Speaker 1>this just before Christmas, just so you know you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this. Christmas will be well and truly done.

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<v Speaker 1>But tomorrow Ben and I are heading to Switzerland to

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<v Speaker 1>see his family for Christmas and will be my very

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<v Speaker 1>first home in Switzerland with Ben's family, meeting his friends

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<v Speaker 1>in his hometown. I'm really excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So, as you might remember, I took my sister

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<v Speaker 2>Sherry and her husband Jay before I even took you

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<v Speaker 2>to my home time.

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<v Speaker 1>I do remember that we do.

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<v Speaker 2>Things a little bit different in our relationship, don't we.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was hard because obviously we don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>normal relationship of sorts.

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<v Speaker 2>You were busy eating picnipples in the jungle, so you

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<v Speaker 2>really take care.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was literally the first week of you being

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<v Speaker 2>in a jungle.

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<v Speaker 1>I really drew the short straw. Yeah. So Sherry and

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<v Speaker 1>Jay went back to Ben's hometown to say with his

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<v Speaker 1>family and to meet his friends and see where Ben

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<v Speaker 1>rup before I did. So I feel like I'm finally

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<v Speaker 1>playing catch up and we're going to be spending Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>with his family. So we are going to do an

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<v Speaker 1>ask Gun cut from some questions that you guys wrote in.

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<v Speaker 1>Some are just general asking cuts, some were specifically for

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<v Speaker 1>Ben to answer so that there was a male perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>And even when I do ask gun cuts back home

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the time, if it's, you know, from

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<v Speaker 1>a male's perspective, I will ask Ben or I'll run

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<v Speaker 1>Ben through so I can get both sides of the story,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Because at the end of the day, Laurie

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<v Speaker 1>and I can always give our opinions based off experience

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<v Speaker 1>and relationships and the knowledge we've learned along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's always really important and nice to

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<v Speaker 1>have a perspective from a man. So I often run

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<v Speaker 1>questions by Ben and.

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<v Speaker 2>I did recognize some of my opinions on the pods.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I do believe it or not value your opinion? Ben?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, normally get a quick FaceTime called quick, Quick, Quick,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me what you think?

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<v Speaker 1>How many times to you master?

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<v Speaker 2>Quick?

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<v Speaker 1>Quick? Do you watch porn? Quick?

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<v Speaker 2>He's not going to answer, she's lying.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get into the questions, we did get

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<v Speaker 1>quite a few questions coming in just about how it's

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<v Speaker 1>been seeing each other again, our plans for the future,

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<v Speaker 1>wedding plans, kid plans.

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<v Speaker 2>How a wedding plans?

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<v Speaker 1>Going Hey, yeah, that's a good question, Ben, How our

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<v Speaker 1>wedding plans.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a question for you because because you don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I do know, but I feel like you have the

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<v Speaker 2>right to veto, so I feel like it's better asking you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's do an on the spot quick. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to ask you three questions about our wedding and

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to have five seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>To answer them generous.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't answer them because you don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>wedding plans, then you have to get me a surprise. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, this is going to be a disaster. What

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<v Speaker 1>date is our wedding it is two. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>it's wrong. You just got that wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the wrong month, but it's the right date.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, well I'll see you in the wrong month.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you, okay. Question two, what is the

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<v Speaker 1>name of our catering company?

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<v Speaker 2>I've oh, I want to say two yes.

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<v Speaker 1>With one second. I didn't think you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>get that no. I mean if there's anything you don't date,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know the food.

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<v Speaker 2>I know all the details that aren't important.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know the food company and not the

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<v Speaker 1>date of our wedding?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if the name just stuck in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's the thing. You don't even know what're eating?

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<v Speaker 1>Knife picked it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well you had the luxury of eating it all,

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<v Speaker 2>so I wouldn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I did it all.

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<v Speaker 2>And Keisha, for that manner, was taking husband duties that day.

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<v Speaker 1>We did go on a food tasting bender and BALI.

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<v Speaker 1>Question three, what's the name of my wedding dress designer?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say something with Khalil, but I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure it's very famous, though.

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<v Speaker 1>Please lock your answer in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's doing a great job putting up with you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're half right, Khalil, Stephen Khalil.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. That counts all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give you one bonus question. Yeah, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the name of our wedding planner, Amelia? Where does she work?

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<v Speaker 2>Love and last? No, not love and lust.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually was expecting you to be so bad at

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<v Speaker 1>our wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>Planning something with love love.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's incorrect.

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<v Speaker 2>Easy weddings, Easy weddings. Oh my god, what's the other one?

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<v Speaker 1>Lost in love?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hello, easy weddings, Amelia. You're doing a great job.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a disaster.

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<v Speaker 2>Although I don't know where you work, you're doing a

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<v Speaker 2>great job.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, you're definitely getting me a surprise now because

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<v Speaker 1>you're turning up to our wedding a month late.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would be an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So we've just had Sherry and Jay staying with

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<v Speaker 1>us for a week and baby Maya.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>She is tiny. So we have just a two bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>flat here. It's very small, and we're all together for

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<v Speaker 1>the week.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's quite big, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben has I mean, you've never held a baby like that,

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<v Speaker 1>You've never been around a new born baby like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't know anything about it. You tried to give

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<v Speaker 1>her fanter.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it didn't. It was you.

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<v Speaker 1>Tried to give her a full meal, Like does she

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<v Speaker 1>need food?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that babies can't drink water. It's baffling

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<v Speaker 2>to me. I did not know that. I thought water

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<v Speaker 2>is the essence of all life and we all need water,

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<v Speaker 2>and well we do.

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<v Speaker 1>Except babies get it from breast milk. Because breast milk

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<v Speaker 1>is so incredible, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But a little water doesn't harm, does it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know. I just not allowed to have it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, my mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the question is has it changed, Like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel about kids now? Because everyone knows that we've

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<v Speaker 1>been a bit confused, a bit on the fence, been

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<v Speaker 1>unsure of our future for a multitude of reasons if

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<v Speaker 1>we can even have them, or if we want them,

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<v Speaker 1>or when we want them, or how it's going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel after we spent a week with

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<v Speaker 1>a baby?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, disclaimer, I haven't changed any nappies, so no.

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<v Speaker 1>There was one exploiting period that went out to her

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<v Speaker 1>neck on that was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I haven't changed any nappies. So I guess if

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<v Speaker 2>all the babies, newborns are like Maya, it would be

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<v Speaker 2>a dream. She hardly cried. She was very easy going,

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<v Speaker 2>such a happy, happy little toddler, happy little baby.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a toddler yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Well see that shows how much I know.

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<v Speaker 1>A happy little.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, happy little squid. Then it makes me think that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with the Hockley jeans and everything, everything will

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<v Speaker 2>be fine and it will not be difficult to have

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<v Speaker 2>a baby. But obviously well aware that it can be

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<v Speaker 2>very stressful, especially you do know I like to sleep

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<v Speaker 2>I like to sleep in. And we did say if

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<v Speaker 2>we do have kids, then I will take the late

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<v Speaker 2>night shift and you will take the early morning shift

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<v Speaker 2>because you're a morning person.

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<v Speaker 1>But does it make you want a baby? Did she

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<v Speaker 1>make you one?

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't make me not want one. That's the most

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<v Speaker 2>ben answer ever. Yeah, we've done this process to have kids,

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<v Speaker 2>so yes, we want to have kids. If they're like Maya,

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<v Speaker 2>then yeah, we can have a kid right now to

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<v Speaker 2>choose if we can, we put this in somewhere that

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<v Speaker 2>we want a kid like Maya.

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<v Speaker 1>Disclaimer mostly that's not correct.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we're probably going to have twins. You know my

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<v Speaker 2>theory about this, well, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>A theory because IVF you have double the chance of

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<v Speaker 1>twins with IBF, and Ben really wants twins, so he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted the fertility doctors to put like twenty five Embrews

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<v Speaker 1>in me. He's like, put them all in.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, look, if you IVF, your chances of having

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<v Speaker 2>twins doubles. So in my head it's like, yeah, from

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five percent to fifty Like what a result, Like

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<v Speaker 2>surely this will happened, And she goes, no, calm down, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it's from two to four percent. Yeah. I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take the extra two percent. Then twins will be hectic.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel good about kids. I feel good about kids. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you feel?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, I agree. She's definitely a unicorn baby.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes you think that like, oh my god, piss cake,

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<v Speaker 1>I could do this dream job, Like if I get

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<v Speaker 1>this little cute munchkin attached to me, that is a

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<v Speaker 1>dream boat. Doesn't cry, doesn't she sleeps eleven hours through

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<v Speaker 1>the night.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also it is a stark reminder too. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a stark reminder of how much things change, like

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<v Speaker 1>how everything was more difficult. Yeah, like even though she's

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<v Speaker 1>a great.

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<v Speaker 2>Child, everything till longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything takes longer. Just getting out of the house takes longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to have a shower is harder because you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to find someone else to take her in that time,

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<v Speaker 1>and they change your life. So it's not that I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be able to adapt to that, it's just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find out when you think that you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be ready for that. And I think my problem is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never going to think that I'm ready. I'm never

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<v Speaker 1>going to say, yes, now's the time to drop a

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<v Speaker 1>bomb of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody is and knows when they are ready,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like there's always a little bit of doubt

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<v Speaker 2>or there's always something that's like, oh, maybe you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I do understand now is when people say that,

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<v Speaker 2>like the laugh I have for Maya, this little cute

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<v Speaker 2>little baby is you know, through the roof, and when

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<v Speaker 2>parents say, you know, it's one of the greatest things

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, but you're also so bloody tired, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I understand it. Like she was in the room next

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<v Speaker 2>door and she slept for eleven hours, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben was still tired.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, wow, I was on uncle daycare and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, I'm going to hand her back. Oh A,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just I am clueless. Like I said, I would

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<v Speaker 2>have fed a water or fantaut or given a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of my pizza or whatever. So it was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't do this, you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a learning curve. But I think I biggest problem too,

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<v Speaker 1>is if we lived together. I believe it would be

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<v Speaker 1>an easier decision and we should probably be doing it

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<v Speaker 1>now for sure, But we don't live together. We're obviously

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<v Speaker 1>aware of that, and we're aware that we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>when we'll be together, which means it's really hard, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with IVF, because we have to literally book in the

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<v Speaker 1>day and go in and say, today's the day, let's

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<v Speaker 1>hope that this works, and then in nine months we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have a baby. So when you're planning it like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to plan everything else around your life as well,

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<v Speaker 1>which we don't have. We don't have the plans to

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<v Speaker 1>be together yet, as much.

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<v Speaker 2>As we want to be, we're not quite there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not there yet. Our careers working on it, We're trying, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're working on it. Our careers and our life don't

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<v Speaker 1>yet align with that. And you know, we're getting married

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<v Speaker 1>and then two days later we have to go Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>actually one night we actually only oh we get one

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<v Speaker 1>night together after our wedding, and then Ben flies back

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<v Speaker 1>to training and I have to fly back to work

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia. So we don't even get the honeymoon. We

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<v Speaker 1>get no time to other except for that week of

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<v Speaker 1>our wedding. Yeah, which is yeah, I mean that's a

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<v Speaker 1>stark reminder for people as to just how hard this

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<v Speaker 1>is and how our lives are not yet in a

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<v Speaker 1>place for a family because I don't want I personally

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<v Speaker 1>and neither is Ben. But I don't want to have

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<v Speaker 1>a baby and you not be there. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing it alone as like a single mom

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<v Speaker 1>in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely want to be a present, a present dad

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<v Speaker 2>and be there for you like that time. It was

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<v Speaker 2>so important for me to be there for you when

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<v Speaker 2>you had your IVF round and you had your little

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<v Speaker 2>procedure and.

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<v Speaker 1>You had your ejaculation into how less we forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it was just really important for me to

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<v Speaker 2>be there to show my support for you because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it did feel like you got the bad end of

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<v Speaker 2>the stick, you know, got the bad end of having

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<v Speaker 2>a little procedure done, and you were in pain and

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<v Speaker 2>all the injections you applied and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So all I had to do was was show up

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<v Speaker 2>and masturbate. Yeah, masturbate and give my little swimmers and

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<v Speaker 2>so did the rest. So but I definitely want to

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<v Speaker 2>be there for you and be there for our potential babies.

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<v Speaker 1>We do want that part of our life. And to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, seeing you with Maya was definitely like an

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<v Speaker 1>overyting sexy dad. You went the dad looking and dad,

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<v Speaker 1>but seeing you with her did get over is tingling

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, because I think that's what you You always

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<v Speaker 1>wonder what your partner is going to look like or

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<v Speaker 1>be not look like, Sorry, will my partner be a deal?

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<v Speaker 1>You wonder what they're going to be like as a parent,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that that's a big part of making

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<v Speaker 1>decisions too, on like if you want to have kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like maybe with a bit of training

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<v Speaker 1>and a bit of education, so you don't feed that

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<v Speaker 1>two month d a steak, you'll be a great dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, You're welcome, thank you, and you'll be a

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<v Speaker 2>great mom.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you. I should get into the questions, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do it. Question number one. Okay, I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a strong opinion about this. My husband

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<v Speaker 1>and I have a six month old baby. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>stay at home mum and he works full time. I

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<v Speaker 1>make dinner every night, which is always hard cooking with

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<v Speaker 1>a baby, as my husband doesn't get home until six

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<v Speaker 1>point thirty, right when we're about to eat. Last night,

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<v Speaker 1>I made dinner like usual, and in conversation I said, so,

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<v Speaker 1>do you like it? And he responded, that's all right,

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<v Speaker 1>But he said in a way where I knew that

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<v Speaker 1>he really wasn't impressed. This offended me as I put

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of effort in whilst juggling our baby. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't think he understands I would have been happy

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<v Speaker 1>with just toast for dinner, but I put the effort

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<v Speaker 1>in for him. He thinks it's okay to be honest

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<v Speaker 1>and that he thought dinner was just okay. So he

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<v Speaker 1>told me, hey, it's just okay. My question is, if

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<v Speaker 1>someone makes you something such as dinner, is it okay

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest and say you didn't really like it?

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<v Speaker 1>Or should you just be appreciative that someone put the

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<v Speaker 1>effort in and say, yeah, it was good, even if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't think it was that good. I asked him, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were at our friend's house, would you say

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<v Speaker 1>that you didn't really like what they made you? Or

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<v Speaker 1>would you pretend? And he said no, of course I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is our home, and I think it's best

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Then? Wow, A big question to start with.

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<v Speaker 1>The real serious his topics to start.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we all know that we have different conversations

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<v Speaker 2>at our own house than we do have at other

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<v Speaker 2>people's houses. Right, But it reminds me remember when I

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<v Speaker 2>tried to replicate a dish for you, and I still

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you liked it to this day, And

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<v Speaker 2>I asked you, I said, do you like your dish?

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<v Speaker 2>And you gave me like a yeah, it's fine. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking, I'm not quite sure if you like

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<v Speaker 2>if you like it what I've made for you, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think, to this day, I'm not quite sure what

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<v Speaker 2>I should make it again.

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<v Speaker 1>And you were wildly offended.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>It hurt your feelings that I said, yeah, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, also a little bit of pride because I pride

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<v Speaker 2>myself on making good meals for you and You've not

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<v Speaker 2>not liked anything I ever made, So I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it stops with beta then. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But to be fair, I don't ever cook. You have

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<v Speaker 1>cooked for me. I've cooked for you once since the

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<v Speaker 1>day we met, in like over two years now.

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<v Speaker 2>With my recipe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's just the way our relationship is. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not because I'm lazy. I try to cook. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>want me to like, you love it. You cook everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think if I can one time in all

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<v Speaker 1>of that time say that I liked it but didn't

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<v Speaker 1>love it, I think that that's genuinely okay in this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's okay that your husband is honest. To

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<v Speaker 1>be fair, there's no point pretending. Maybe early on in

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship, like you've just started dating, you're really really

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<v Speaker 1>fresh into dating, You've made a huge effort. I think

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<v Speaker 1>in that situation you just probably lie a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, yeah, thank you so much. It was delicious,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just fool I just can't eat anymore. But

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, you guys are married, you have a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Him not liking your food, I don't think he's connected

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<v Speaker 1>with him not appreciating that you did it. He can

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<v Speaker 1>still appreciate that you have gone to the effort to

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<v Speaker 1>cook it, but just doesn't genuinely like the taste. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that that has to be offensive to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it depends how he says it and the

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<v Speaker 1>reason he says he doesn't like it. But you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to when you're married. You don't want to pretend

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<v Speaker 1>that you like something and then for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>your life have to fake that you like it, because

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<v Speaker 1>you'll continue to cook that meal. Now if he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Faked it, Yeah, I agree. I think you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what happened at work. Maybe it's had a

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<v Speaker 2>bad day at work or whoever, and you certainly have

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<v Speaker 2>to be appreciative of another person making a meal not

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<v Speaker 2>just for you, but it's for the family, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Like like she said, she has a six months old

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<v Speaker 2>at home.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but the six month I was not in mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but it's part of you know, looking after your family.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean we've had our lovely niece here for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of days. It was more hectic than I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it would be, So you know, the partner definitely

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<v Speaker 2>has to be appreciative of the effort that's been made.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you rather that I told you if you made

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<v Speaker 1>me something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I'm making it because I think you would

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<v Speaker 2>like it, and then you don't like it or it's

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<v Speaker 2>not your taste, and then you're better off knowing. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think you have to take this not as criticism

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<v Speaker 2>rather than just as okay, just the other person just

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't like it, and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I think if you're reverse it, if your

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<v Speaker 1>husband cooked something for you that you really didn't like,

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<v Speaker 1>would you tell him, like I think it's the way

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<v Speaker 1>you deliver it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, just the way you say it, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Just tell him. I would just tell him I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't appreciate me, and then you can go

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<v Speaker 1>from there, like I feel like you don't appreciate me.

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<v Speaker 1>If you really just didn't like the meal, that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we can talk about it. But it was the

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<v Speaker 1>way you said it, and I just you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>both obviously very stressed. It's not easy being at home

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<v Speaker 1>with a baby as well, So I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>say maybe you're more offended than you should be.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it depends on how often this has happened.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if it's just every night, then he's just

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<v Speaker 2>not appreciated. If then I think it's more of a

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<v Speaker 2>thing of him not being appreciative of you making the

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<v Speaker 2>effort to cook. But if it's just a once off

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<v Speaker 2>or once every now and then, then I think it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Should my friend tell her new boyfriend the

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<v Speaker 1>reason that her and her ex husband split up, the

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<v Speaker 1>reason being she cheated on her husband. This new couple

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<v Speaker 1>have been together now for six months, and she still

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't told him, and I'm doubting that she ever will.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is crazy because eventually going to find out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how she gets around. It's not that big

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<v Speaker 1>of a town, and I think he will be pissed

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<v Speaker 1>off that she wasn't honest with him from the start.

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<v Speaker 1>The question is, do you have to divulge the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>that you broke up with an ex partner and if

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<v Speaker 1>you did the wrong thing. This is an interesting one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think naturally, when you start to get to know somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>you maybe discuss previous relationships and you ask questions of

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<v Speaker 2>maybe how that went, maybe to get a feeling of

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<v Speaker 2>how that person is in the relationship. My initial thought

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<v Speaker 2>was it's probably not up to the friend to disclose

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<v Speaker 2>this information to the partner, just because I think you

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be getting too much involved in other people's relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Although you might mean, well, well, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think she's asking should she tell them. I think

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<v Speaker 1>she obviously believes that her friend needs to say it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a friend, think she doesn't need to tell him that

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<v Speaker 1>she's cheated. So I think she's writing to ask more

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<v Speaker 1>to ask is she right in thinking that she should

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<v Speaker 1>tell her or is she out of line thinking that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to disclose this previous information.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if they're good friends, they can definitely have

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation and say, hey, this is what I'm thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this could become an issue. I'm just looking

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<v Speaker 2>out for you. You know, is there any particular reason

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<v Speaker 2>why you haven't brought it up or are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to bring it up? And you know, should you maybe

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<v Speaker 2>wait because it is the relationship going to be very

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<v Speaker 2>serious or not? I think that's also something to consider.

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<v Speaker 2>I think personally it should naturally come up in a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation between a couple, a new couple getting to know

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<v Speaker 2>each other.

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<v Speaker 1>But the question is do you think it matters going

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<v Speaker 1>into a new relationship? What someone has done in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it does matter. You don't have to disclose

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<v Speaker 2>your past and your past relationships, but I think if

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<v Speaker 2>you go into a new relationship with honesty, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that goes a long way, and it could be

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<v Speaker 2>a great discussion point, because cheating is not necessarily black

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<v Speaker 2>and white and you're wrong and you're right, and it

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<v Speaker 2>can definitely be a tricky conversation to have, but if

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<v Speaker 2>you have it, you might come out the other side

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<v Speaker 2>in a better way or better understanding of your person

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<v Speaker 2>that you're getting to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people just think that, well, for me, cheating

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<v Speaker 1>isn't as simple as like a leopard can't change its spots.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, once you've cheated, you're always a cheater. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that that's true at all. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to disclose any part of your past to a new

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<v Speaker 1>relationship that you don't feel comfortable disclosing or you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to disclose, But I think you need to use

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<v Speaker 1>your discretion as to what is the right thing to

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<v Speaker 1>bring into that relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it will be a problem if he

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<v Speaker 2>eventually finds out and then that usual sentence comes up,

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<v Speaker 2>why didn't you tell me from the beginning. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that's going to be That.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be my worry in this situation. Yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're better off to speak about that kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm sure he has asked you. This is the

0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:46.200
<v Speaker 1>other question. I'm sure he's asked you, Hey, why did

0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:48.160
<v Speaker 1>your marriage end? Like, why did your marriage break down?

0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:51.520
<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty normal question when a marriage has broken

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<v Speaker 1>down and you're starting to date someone else. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wondering what she has said in that situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you don't disclose it in that moment, the

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<v Speaker 2>other person probably feels a little bit late to well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and if you think that they're going to find

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<v Speaker 1>out down the track, it's always better to tell the

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<v Speaker 1>truth at the start. It's always better to come from

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<v Speaker 1>you than somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's also not to say that the person will

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<v Speaker 2>cheat again exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I mean. A leopard. I believe can change

0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:17.080
<v Speaker 1>at spots. Once you've cheated. It doesn't mean you're always

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a cheaterdh doesn't mean you're always going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a fuck with, doesn't mean you can't be trusted.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know the situation surrounding that cheating. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what was happening in that relationship that made somebody

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I think that's the really important thing, is

0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to have those open conversations and discuss the why. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had cheated on someone in the past, Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't stop me from dating you, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>want to know why, yeah, and how you feel about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and how you feel about cheating and would you do

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<v Speaker 1>it again, and all of those kind of things. But

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<v Speaker 1>if I found out four years down the track that

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<v Speaker 1>you cheated on your ex wife, yeah, I'd be pretty

0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:53.959
<v Speaker 1>pissed off that I didn't have that information. It's tricky

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<v Speaker 1>because at the end of the day, it's very obvious

0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:57.399
<v Speaker 1>you want to do like the right thing for your friend.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're trying to protect her from the future,

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<v Speaker 1>a future fallout. All you can do is have the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with her and say it's highly likely that eventually

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:10.480
<v Speaker 1>this information will get back to him. You know, I'll

0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:12.480
<v Speaker 1>support you whatever you want to do, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's better for you to get this out in the

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<v Speaker 1>open now and just explain why, explain why it happened.

0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:19.600
<v Speaker 1>But you can't really do anything else on that. At

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, you're protecting your friend, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not your business.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not your relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>This is another question that came directly in for Ben's perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>I have known this guy for five years and he's

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<v Speaker 1>been there through breakups, graduation, my mum's cancer, and recently

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<v Speaker 1>my mum's passing and funeral. My mum loved him and

0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:43.200
<v Speaker 1>he promised her that he would protect me. He's always

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<v Speaker 1>so active in my life and helping everywhere possible. Since

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<v Speaker 1>all this has happened, I now think that I'm falling

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<v Speaker 1>for him, but he says he sees me as nothing

0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:55.679
<v Speaker 1>but a sister. He's thirty and I'm twenty four. For context,

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<v Speaker 1>Am I just wasting my time? Or is there something

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<v Speaker 1>that I can do? Second part of the question also, Britt,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I get rid of the feeling as I

0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 1>feel the guy should always pursue you and not the

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<v Speaker 1>other way around.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, this is hard.

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Firstly, you're obviously going through a really tough time,

0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:13.880
<v Speaker 1>so I'm really sorry that you've just lost your mum.

0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Horrific and I can't imagine what that's like. I know

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 1>she said this is specifically for you, Ben, but I

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<v Speaker 1>have feelings.

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.159
<v Speaker 2>This is tough because you've sort of opened up to

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:26.240
<v Speaker 2>him and said how you feel, which is probably a

0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:29.520
<v Speaker 2>big step, and especially with the past that you two have,

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:32.080
<v Speaker 2>that he's always been there for you, and I'm guessing

0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 2>you have been there for him as well if there

0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:36.879
<v Speaker 2>was any issues in his life. So there's definitely a

0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:40.600
<v Speaker 2>different kind of connection than maybe just a friendship. It's

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:43.080
<v Speaker 2>a hard one because obviously he doesn't feel the same

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<v Speaker 2>way and that probably stings a little bit initially. Is

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<v Speaker 2>there hope, Yes, there's always a little bit of hope.

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<v Speaker 2>I think how I would handle the situation is probably

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<v Speaker 2>I would maybe distance myself a little bit from him

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of get in that mode of out of sight,

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:03.400
<v Speaker 2>out of minds, and if your feelings are still there

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.639
<v Speaker 2>for him, then you never know what's going to happen.

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:07.520
<v Speaker 2>He might turn around, you know, a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 2>or a months down the road and says, hey, I

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 2>thought about what you said. You never know if the

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:14.920
<v Speaker 2>other person's going to do that. But you obviously don't

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 2>want to lose the friendship. So if you can, and

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:20.160
<v Speaker 2>if you feel that you can, you should definitely keep

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 2>a good friendship going. But it's obviously disappointing that the

0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:27.919
<v Speaker 2>other person hasn't expressed the same feelings romantically as you

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<v Speaker 2>have to him.

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<v Speaker 1>And so do you truly think that if someone has

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<v Speaker 1>said you're like a sister to me, that they can

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<v Speaker 1>then change their form feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it can change. I think it's maybe similar

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<v Speaker 2>than having friends with benefits, where you're romantically involved but

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 2>sort of with a guard and a distance to it.

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there are definitely people out there who started

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<v Speaker 2>off as friends and then you know the usual story off,

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:50.400
<v Speaker 2>we've been friends since high school, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to have a very different opinion to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Ben, don't be shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't agree. But the reason I think that

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 1>this is different, and this is be hard for you

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<v Speaker 1>to hear, but I don't think he has an interest

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>in you like that at all, and I don't think

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.679
<v Speaker 1>that he will. And the reason I say that, of course,

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:09.920
<v Speaker 1>there is a chance he can. No one can ever

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:13.919
<v Speaker 1>rule anything out. The reason I say that is because

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you aren't friends with benefits that you know you haven't

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:19.239
<v Speaker 1>been hooking up. But from all accounts, you've never hooked up.

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>He's always just been a figure that's been there to

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:22.879
<v Speaker 1>look after you. So it's not like it's been a

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 1>friends with benefits or it's been romantic and you're trying

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.879
<v Speaker 1>to say, hey, let's be more serious. You guys have

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:30.640
<v Speaker 1>had a relationship where he has told you that he

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:33.399
<v Speaker 1>looks at you like a sister, He protects you like

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<v Speaker 1>a sister, he wants to continue to look after you

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>and be there for you like a sister. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's very hard to transition from that to romantic when

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 1>he says that that's how he feels. It's different one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent. If he just said, oh, I just think

0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 1>we're really good friends, I would say, hey, yeah, like

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 1>they could be hoped, because friendships do change. But the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he used like a sibling as his descriptor

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:01.879
<v Speaker 1>for you and your relationship makes me think that he

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>has categorized your relationship into a completely different box. And

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I know that's not what you want to hear, and

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe that will change, but I think you do have

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 1>to listen to what he has said.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely don't think she should be hanging around and

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:19.119
<v Speaker 2>trying to make an effort to eventually make this happen.

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Definitely not. You should live your life and you know,

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 2>sort of move on, try and move on mentally, which

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 2>is obviously very very hard, especially since you just opened up.

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm very literal, so when you said is

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 2>the hope, I would obviously say, yes, there's always hope.

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:34.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Benny's very very little.

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 2>But should you be hanging around and continue to make

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<v Speaker 2>an effort and you did mention the thing of male

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 2>pursuiting the female and stuff, No, you shouldn't because I

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.120
<v Speaker 2>think you're going to drive yourself crazy if he's never

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 2>going to give you the same feeling back that you

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:51.680
<v Speaker 2>have for him. So I think you're just going to

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 2>make life a little bit more harder for yourself.

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't want to be out of place here

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>because I haven't been in your situation. I haven't lost

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>a parent and I haven't been going through the absolute

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 1>grief and heartbreak that you would be going through now.

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>But we have spoken to enough people over the years

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 1>to try to understand the overwhelming feelings and confusion that

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 1>can surround grief. I want you to ask yourself and

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>think about this. Could there be a level of confusion

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 1>in your feelings because you are in the depths of grief.

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 1>You have just lost your mum and there is this

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>person there that is looking after you and has said

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 1>that they will continue to look after you and almost

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>be your night and shining armor. And it's amazing that

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 1>he's doing that. Everyone deserves to have that kind of

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>a person. But I do wonder if you've never had

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 1>those feelings before and those feelings are coming out now,

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 1>they very well could be real. They absolutely could be like, Wow,

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 1>you've been right in front of me all this time.

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 1>But it also could be a lot of confusion because

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>you have lost someone really important to you and that

0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:59.360
<v Speaker 1>someone has showed up saying, hey, I'll be here for you,

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you know. So I do wonder, and only you can

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 1>answer that if you think that these feelings could have

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>come at this time because of everything else that's going

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:10.199
<v Speaker 1>on in your life and the tumultuous emotions that you

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>know I can only imagine are completely engulfing you all

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 1>day every day. It's hard because you don't want to

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>completely distance yourself from this person because they are there

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 1>for you and you do need the support and they

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 1>were obviously a really important person to you, But you

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>do need to give yourself enough space if you think

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you're falling for them and they've said that they're not.

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:30.919
<v Speaker 1>So it's a bit of a balancing act because you

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 1>need to maintain the friendship. You don't want to drive

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 1>him away. You don't want to lose it. You know,

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be driven away yourself because you

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>need that support. But there is a part of me

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>that says, well, you have put it out there for now,

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>and he has told you how he feels, and you can't. Unfortunately,

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 1>as much as you try, you can't change someone's feelings

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>or thoughts about you by pushing harder. It's impossible. It

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 1>just won't happen.

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 2>It's an uphill battle.

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>The second part of the question is about you know

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>she feels like, yeah, she feels like the guy should

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>always pursue you and not the other way around. That women,

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, should be the object of desire and know

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>the male should always be the one that shows up

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 1>and puts in the work and shows the interest. And

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 1>whilst that is like a wonderful, beautiful fairy tale.

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I I don't think that's I mean,

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I have pursued you pretty strongly because I was wild,

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 2>but I know it's not always that way.

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>No, I think absolutely not. I think you need to

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>go after what you want. Those days are done, and

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>in fact, those days never existed for me. Every person

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>that I have ever had any relationship with, whether that's

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 1>long term or dated or situationship, I've gone after like

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>if I've been interested in them, I go after them.

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>With you, it was different then, just because you're on

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 1>the other side of the world, and like I showed

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>my interest heavily, Yeah, but I just didn't think that

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>it'd be anything there, So I probably didn't pursue you

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>as much as if you lived here. If you lived

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>in the same country, I would have pursued you hard up.

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:05.239
<v Speaker 2>There was definitely enough from you that made me feel like, oh,

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 2>she's really interested, and there's probably enough from me that

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 2>made you feel it's really pursuing me. So it's if

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 2>both people pursue each other to a certain extent, then

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 2>you know the interest is real.

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I definitely made out hook up happen for sure, Like

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 1>we hooked up that first night because I was interested

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>in you and I wanted it to happen. Yeah, I

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 1>think gone of the days, and you can tell me

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>what you think. Gone are the days of women having

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>to wait around for men Like those days were over

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>decades ago.

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, they're also shy men like me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is the question, are you adverse in any capacity?

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Does it put you off in any capacity when a

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 1>woman approaches you, or are.

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<v Speaker 2>You like, thank god, no, absolutely. Yeah. Sometimes it's like

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 2>she's really cute, but you don't have the courage to

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 2>go up to her or whatever the situation is, and

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, she's actually doing me a favor by

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<v Speaker 2>being forthcoming and maybe making the first step or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's definitely a nice sign. Maybe she thinks exactly

0:30:58.240 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 2>the same. She's like, I wish this guy would come

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<v Speaker 2>up to me, and you don't, or imagine what could

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 2>happen if you do. Because we choked about this where

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<v Speaker 2>if we just met out in a bar or somewhere,

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:10.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not the type of guy would just come up

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<v Speaker 2>to you. You said to me, like, I, if I

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 2>met you, I would have hoped you would come up

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<v Speaker 2>to me. You would give me signals and stuff like that.

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>So well, that's the craziest I probably.

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't pick them up.

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>But no, you wouldn't pick them up. But that's that's

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>the crazy thing, right, Like we're getting married, but if

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 1>we met in the wild at a bar, we probably

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>nothing would have happened. We would have well, I mean

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I might have come and talked to you. I would

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<v Speaker 1>have given you some wings across the bar.

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 2>It depends how many margaritas you've had.

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 1>But it's crazy to think that just because of that,

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Because people are too shy, they don't shoot their shot.

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I say to everybody, shoot your shot.

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>We're getting married, and we wouldn't have even spoken if

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>we met in the wild. You've got nothing to lose it.

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 1>This is what I think when women are like I'm

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 1>too shy, or I don't want to ask, or what

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>if he says no? My answer is always who cares?

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>If he says no? Who cares?

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 2>If they say no, It won't be your first, they

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 2>won't be your last. Know.

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>It's also not personal, right, especially if it's in the

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 1>early days and it's you don't know them right, you're out,

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you've seen someone that tickles your fancy, gets your juices flowing,

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:15.239
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, hey, they're pretty cute. What do you

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>have to lose If they're not interested in nothing? You

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know them, They don't know you, You don't know

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>their situation, it doesn't matter if you only have something

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 1>to gain. And I think that is in every situation.

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I say this to people, and Laura and I have

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 1>had these discussions so many times. You have to put

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>out what you want, whether that's in a job like

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>in your work or something that you're going after, friends, relationships, sex.

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter. Put out what you want because if

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't, your answer is one hundred percent no. But

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>if you do, there is a chance that you will

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<v Speaker 1>get something that is incredible. Now that I've raised my points, Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>do you still think that if a man has put

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>someone in a category of like a sister, that can change.

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it can change because whether he just thinks initially

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 2>I was maybe a little bit scared, or I didn't

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 2>know she felt that way, maybe I have given her

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 2>certain signals that made her feel in a certain way,

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 2>or maybe I do need to distance myself from this

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 2>intimate friendship, or maybe well, actually she's right, we would

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 2>make a nice couple, or we share so many things already,

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 2>we see things the same way, like you just never

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 2>know what develops from that.

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>And just to give a perspective from the other side,

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say this to give you false

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>hope at all. But there is a small chance that

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe he just doesn't want to enter anything now because

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>of the situation that you're in. He might be well

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 1>enough in tuned with how the world works and emotions

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 1>to know that it's not the right time to have

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 1>those conversations when you're in the depth of grief as well.

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Next question is about long distance. Now, this was very long,

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>so I've surmised.

0:33:54.600 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 2>It, surmised, summarized. Who was the native English?

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I think you can say surmarized it. I've summarized it.

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 1>This is a long question, so I have summarized it.

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I've been in a long distance relationship for three years.

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>He lives in Europe, so I feel like this is

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:12.280
<v Speaker 1>why she's read.

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 2>It's very simp fitting.

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, he lives in Europe. We haven't seen each

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>other in four months, and I made a big mistake.

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I cheated on him on a night out. I didn't

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>sleep with them, but I kissed somebody. I don't want anything.

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm never going to do it again. I feel extreme guilt.

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Do I tell my partner. I'm worried that if I

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 1>tell him, he'll end it with me. But I know

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm never going to do it again, and I want

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 1>to spend my life with him. What do I do this?

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Clem?

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm really torn because.

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 2>There's literally no good answer.

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean there is. I guess we should be

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>saying to tell him to be honest in a relationship.

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>That's the answer, right, That's that's the answer that you

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>put on paper. I feel like it's probably what a

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.399
<v Speaker 1>psychologist would say. It's probably the right thing to say,

0:34:57.640 --> 0:34:58.840
<v Speaker 1>is honesty is.

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Probably always the better choice. But but it's so hard,

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 2>very very difficult situation.

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Make this our situation. All right, We've been together, we

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen each other in months, I kissed someone. Would

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you rather me tell you and it possibly, you know,

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>cause this rift or ruin things or we break up

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is. Or if you know and I

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 1>know I'm never ever, ever, ever going to do it again?

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Would you rather it just was never brought up?

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 2>The question isn't on me, The question is on you.

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:31.879
<v Speaker 1>If you should tell I'm asking you. Would you rather

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>have not known so that the relationship can continue, knowing

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I know, it's never gonna happen again.

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Would you rather have me have dumped that on you

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 1>and said I kissed someone, and then you've always got

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>that thought.

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I think, because it's just a kiss, probably think I'd

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:47.799
<v Speaker 2>rather not know. And if you feel like, oh, if

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:49.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, like you're never going to do this mistake again,

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 2>and it might do more damage telling than it would

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 2>not telling and opening up. But yeah, because especially with

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 2>the long distance, the way to hash this out is

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 2>going to be extremely difficult, especially if you don't see

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 2>each other for another four months. Right, So it's like.

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 1>A part of you that thinks it's not worth the

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>disruptions the rest of your life.

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a hard one because it's just a kiss.

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 2>But a kiss can actually mean so much. When you

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:15.720
<v Speaker 2>kiss somebody, you think you initially know whether the person

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 2>is for you or not.

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh that was deep. Yeah, Well I think she knows

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 1>the person she kiss wasn't for her. I think long

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>have they been together, like three years or something.

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that sounds like a pretty solid relationship.

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 2>So you probably take that one to the grave. Take

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 2>it to the grave, never speak of it, don't tell anyone,

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 2>don't tell a friend. Yeah.

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I feel really guilty saying this because I've always wanted

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 1>to know the truth and I've always said I think

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>honest is the best policy. And I almost think I'm

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 1>going to give you advice that people are not going

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to agree with. If it's really going to hurt him

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and crush him and you know you're never going to

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:50.240
<v Speaker 1>do it again, and you know what was the biggest mistake,

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 1>and you just feel so much guilt, then I probably

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I probably wouldn't tell him and do that to him.

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I would just continue to be the best person you

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 1>can be in that relationship and really up for him.

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Even as I say that out loud, I feel a

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>bit guilty because.

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:05.720
<v Speaker 2>It's so fifty fifty, it's.

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 1>So fifty to fifty. But I feel like I need

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>to give you advice one way or the other. If

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 1>you think that your relationship could be over because of

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 1>what you did, if there's no way for him to

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>ever find out, and I even feel guilty saying that,

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 1>but if there's any inkling that he can find out,

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>if you have shared friends, if people saw it, if

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 1>anyone else knows, then you need to tell him absolutely,

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>because if it comes from someone else laid down the track,

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be devastating and ten times worse. But

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>if it's like you're in a different city and no

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>one knew, and there's no way for anyone to find out,

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>and this guy's a stranger that you don't even know.

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Then I probably wouldn't I wouldn't risk it, but I

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 1>would spend the rest of my life being an amazing

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>person and I would never do it again. And if

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>you ever cheat again, then you either are in the

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 1>wrong relationship or you do need to tell him. And

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I know people are going to thoroughly disagree.

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:53.760
<v Speaker 2>With that you canceled.

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, I just think like you're going to completely blow

0:37:56.880 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 1>up someone's life and your own for something that you

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 1>think is like a really big mistake. And that's why

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you what you would rather ben,

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 1>if you'd rather be take that to the grave. Laura

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and I have had this discussion many times, sometimes on

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 1>the podcast, sometimes just in person. We both agree the

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:16.919
<v Speaker 1>same kind of thing if our partner had just if

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 1>this was reversed and you had just kissed someone one night,

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:22.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't know them, never want to see them again, felt

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 1>so guilty, loved me, want to spend your life with me.

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want to know. I would not want to

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>know because that stays in that relationship forever. But if

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 1>you slept with someone, absolutely that's a whole different kettle

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 1>of fish that you need to be talking about. I mean,

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, obviously it's up to you,

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.320
<v Speaker 1>that's a no brainer. But I would just be trying

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>to show up now and be the best person you

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 1>can be and work on you know, figure out why

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you did it in the first place. Is obviously a

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.879
<v Speaker 1>reason that you did it. Maybe that's what needs looking at.

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:49.839
<v Speaker 1>If there is a bit of a hole in the relationship,

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:52.319
<v Speaker 1>or is it just that you're I hate to say it,

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:54.400
<v Speaker 1>but you haven't seen them in months or a bit lonely,

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 1>and that's thinking, not that that's an excuse. You know,

0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Ben and I we only saw each other for a

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 1>week in the last six months. And I would never

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:03.279
<v Speaker 1>cheat on you, and assuming you would never cheat on me.

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's really tricky and people are going to

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>hate us for saying that, but I'd be taking that

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.839
<v Speaker 1>onto the grave. So I've been seeing this guy off

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:12.879
<v Speaker 1>and on for a year, and last night he asked

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 1>me if I wanted to be his girlfriend. I've been

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.320
<v Speaker 1>searching for love for years now, so this should have

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 1>made me the happiest girl ever. He's very into me.

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 1>He has told me and shown me so much. The

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 1>thing is, he's eight years younger than me. Get a girl.

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I've reached an age where I hope my next partner

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 1>is my last. I want to have kids and times

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 1>a ticken. You know how it is. I like him,

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>We get a long grade. We have similar goals and values.

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:40.240
<v Speaker 1>But I guess my question is is he too young?

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:41.359
<v Speaker 1>And how do you know?

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:44.160
<v Speaker 2>I feel naturally in your mid twenties, the age gap

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 2>can be more of a problem in terms of the

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 2>other person being more mature and having more life experience.

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I think when you're you know, let's say the person's

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 2>eighteen and you're eight years older, those eight years, I

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 2>think are much more significant in your how you developed

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 2>as a per and a character, how you see life,

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 2>what you've already experienced in life. If you're sort of

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 2>in your mid thirties, I don't think it's that big

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 2>of an age gap. Our age gap is not eight years,

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 2>but it's still five years. It's five years. It's still

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 2>for some people quite a significant age gap. If we

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 2>were dating and I was eighteen and you were twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we would look at it differently. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you should give it a goal.

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<v Speaker 1>I think age is only a problem. If age is

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. If it's not a problem, it's not a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>And that seems so basic, but it's true. Everyone grows

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<v Speaker 1>and matures at a different point. Everyone wants different things

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<v Speaker 1>at different ages. If he is showing up and being

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<v Speaker 1>everything that you want him to be and he wants

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<v Speaker 1>the same things, if you guys are on the same timeline,

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<v Speaker 1>then it genuinely doesn't matter. At the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a number. But if he is saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I really like you, but i'm know when you're ready

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<v Speaker 1>to have kids yet, and you know that you are,

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<v Speaker 1>then then that's when it's a problem. People put a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of emphasis on age and numbers, and I genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>don't get it. I don't think it matters.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I agree how mature you are, how you see things.

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<v Speaker 2>And we always joke, remember when we looked at each

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<v Speaker 2>other's pictures from like ten years ago and we thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we would have never dated each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, what does that go to? It has nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with anything. Yes, I know you wouldn't have dated

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<v Speaker 1>me when I was twenty five, I had a glow

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<v Speaker 1>up and so.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you yes? Or did I string me? But I

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<v Speaker 2>think the kids conversation is you've just sort of started

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<v Speaker 2>out in this relationship. So I feel like the kid's

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<v Speaker 2>conversation is definitely one to half. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's the one where you're going to have to have

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<v Speaker 2>the answer immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is you guys haven't said your age is here,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have said times ticking and I want kids

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<v Speaker 1>and I need my next relationship to be It's which

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<v Speaker 1>makes me think maybe your late twenties, early thirties. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, that's that's my guess. So I do think

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<v Speaker 1>that that conversation matters because it matters to her, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you are literally deciding now if you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend officially because you want kids and you're worried

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<v Speaker 1>about that. He has asked you to be his girlfriend officially,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning he has that interest and he wants something serious

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Ask him say hey, before I commit to this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the age gap isn't the hesitation, but our

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<v Speaker 1>timeline of what we want could be. Where are you at?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about kids? When do you see

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<v Speaker 1>them in your future? Would you see them with me?

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with explaining what you want. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like Ben and I are five years difference. Sorry Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>but my ex relationship Jordan, he and I were seven

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<v Speaker 1>years difference. And just as an example, when he and

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<v Speaker 1>I started dating, I was about to freeze my eggs

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time because I was significantly older than him.

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<v Speaker 1>He was mid twenties, and I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where I am at in my life. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just going to be honest and if he's not at

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<v Speaker 1>that point then then that's fine. But I'll just tell

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<v Speaker 1>him and he can do what he wants with information.

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<v Speaker 1>And he thought it was great. There was nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 1>that he was twenty six years old. I was in

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<v Speaker 1>my thirties early thirties, and he was like, yeah, go

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<v Speaker 1>for it, Like, let's do that. It doesn't mean we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have kids right now, but if we thought

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<v Speaker 1>that there was a future he was mature enough. The

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<v Speaker 1>number didn't mean anything. He was at a different point

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<v Speaker 1>of his life. And the same thing has happened with you, Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're five years younger than me. We froze eggs

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<v Speaker 1>embryos together within six months, so like, you know, we

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 1>literally had I'm pretty sure it was six months, which

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:29.440
<v Speaker 1>is so early when you think about it, but not

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<v Speaker 1>early when you know, and not early when the timeline

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<v Speaker 1>suits us.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what I was trying to say. That's

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<v Speaker 2>like you have to have the kids conversation, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like you don't have to have the answer straight away,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we still don't have the answer, and we're getting

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<v Speaker 2>married and we're two years in and we still don't

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<v Speaker 2>know three frozen babies, yeah, and we still don't know

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 2>how and when are we going to do this? I

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<v Speaker 2>think because you've already been sort of dating for a

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<v Speaker 2>year and he's now officially asked you to be his girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 2>he will be ready for this conversation. And if he's

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<v Speaker 2>not ready for this conversation about kids, then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you should rethink whether you're going to be officially

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<v Speaker 2>a couple.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you'd be crazy to lose out on the

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<v Speaker 1>potential of your person and a great relationship because of

0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 1>a number, because of how old he is. So be upfront,

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<v Speaker 1>don't be afraid to have the conversation, to tell him

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<v Speaker 1>what you want, what you're after, what you're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>and just let him respond however he wants to respond,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can make your decision based off that. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I can say is it's a good life being

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<v Speaker 1>a cougar. Well, that is it from us, guys. We

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 1>have to get out of here. We have to go

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and get a plane to Switzerland. Thanks for getting on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, Ben. I know it's not your probably your

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 1>favorite thing to do.

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:47.799
<v Speaker 2>It makes me appreciate how difficult your and Laura's job is,

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 2>and I probably should get better at it. If people

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<v Speaker 2>want me to come back from well, we.

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Don't know if they will now. Well, guys, hope you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the rest of the holiday season. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be back with regular programming a bit of different programming

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:04.799
<v Speaker 1>very very soon. But in the meantime, Ben, don't forget.

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<v Speaker 2>All your dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>No no, you listen to every episode. Tell you I

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<v Speaker 1>switch off at the end, Tell you friends and whatever

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 1>so your mum told your dad, Tell your dog to

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 1>your friends, and share the love because we love love,

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<v Speaker 1>all right,