Speaker 1: The Flex and Frooms Daily podcast. Remember that one time
Speaker 1: where Frooms convinced me that she was Swedish and then
Speaker 1: when I said that's so crazy, like that makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense, she then said she wasn't Swedish.
Speaker 2: I'm going to just jump in there quickly. Recently had
Speaker 2: to look at my ancest to your DNA test. If
Speaker 2: you gave your DNA away for free, and ye, you
Speaker 2: regret it, take solace in the fact that every year
Speaker 2: they updated, so it's more specific. I'll just say thirty
Speaker 2: three percent Scottish.
Speaker 1: That makes sense.
Speaker 2: I am Squittish through and through love and also four
Speaker 2: per saint Norwegian. So I wasn't lying.
Speaker 1: You're on the cusp of something. What is the rest?
Speaker 2: I no Irish British?
Speaker 1: Why do you tay you don't want to be Irish British?
Speaker 2: Well, Scottish is cooler?
Speaker 1: Is it Irish?
Speaker 2: British? Blah potato Scottish killed vibes excellent Scottish. Oh, I
Speaker 2: love everything about that culture. And I will say, like
Speaker 2: I said that your biggest not that culture. Culture.
Speaker 1: Sorry h anyway, was that a thought coming?
Speaker 2: Well? Just to say my grandpa's both parents were Scottish,
Speaker 2: so then I'm one fourth Scottish.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get really confused when you start talking about
Speaker 1: lineage part of me. Anyway, I was in Ghana. It
Speaker 1: was phenomenal. I have said about three times today that
Speaker 1: when you go somewhere for more than four weeks, it's
Speaker 1: a lifestyle change on a holiday. Now I'm back reintegrating.
Speaker 1: I want to say, I'm what's bicoastal intercontinental? Where are
Speaker 1: you from? Here?
Speaker 3: And there?
Speaker 1: Here? In there? Ghana two months of the year type vibes.
Speaker 1: It was phenomenal, But I will say it is the wild,
Speaker 1: wild West, and I wish I would have written down
Speaker 1: every kind of contradictory social norm that exists there versus here,
Speaker 1: like how the like the language that I speak there,
Speaker 1: which is tree, is such an indirect passive language that
Speaker 1: bleeds over into the entire culture. We can't get into
Speaker 1: it now. But an example, if you ask someone at
Speaker 1: any time how long something is going to take? How
Speaker 1: long till the food gets here? How long till the
Speaker 1: uber gets here? They will say not long, it should
Speaker 1: be here shortly, how many minutes? When God allows?
Speaker 2: So imagine when God allows, when God allows, so we
Speaker 2: need to bring a bit of that Pacific City into
Speaker 2: our lives as well. I think you do not.
Speaker 1: Anyway, here's the party for you. Miss you already Flex
Speaker 1: and froods your girl. Flex. Lillian Ess came back from
Speaker 1: four weeks abroad. Wow, yes, yes she did. I was
Speaker 1: in Ghana for the second time in one year. I
Speaker 1: am bringing back bragging. I feel like I've been a
Speaker 1: bit too humble on the show and it doesn't suit me.
Speaker 1: So let's let's let's start with the facts. Okay, no
Speaker 1: comment number one. The tickets were very expensive. Guess how
Speaker 1: much or return return five K six? Can you imagine
Speaker 1: six thousand dollars? Thousand dollars of course with fle emirates.
Speaker 1: But what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: Is it like seventeen hours away longer?
Speaker 1: So you gotta go from here to Dubai Classic nine hours,
Speaker 1: a cheeky little four four hour layover, and then it's
Speaker 1: fourteen to Ghana. That's if you're going direct. Sometimes you'll
Speaker 1: stop in other places. It's just a lot.
Speaker 2: So it's pretty much the same as if I wanted
Speaker 2: to go to the UK.
Speaker 1: No, the UK is closer UK seventeen hours?
Speaker 2: Are you sure?
Speaker 1: What are you not?
Speaker 3: What are you not understanding? So like, Okay, here's here's Australia.
Speaker 3: We can't get into this right now. I'm sorry, we
Speaker 3: can't get into it right now. In your own time definitely,
Speaker 3: but for now, let's keep it pushing. I will say, though,
Speaker 3: when I go to Ghana, I try to share. I
Speaker 3: won't say as much as possible that to lie, but
Speaker 3: I try and share what that experience is like because
Speaker 3: I think, I think.
Speaker 1: Not the UK coming out. I feel like people don't
Speaker 1: have a great visual understanding of what Ghana is like,
Speaker 1: and so I'm just doing my civil duty. What I
Speaker 1: will say though, is if the VI visuals are confusing, assaulting, beautiful,
Speaker 1: the actual experience would send the average Australian into shock.
Speaker 1: I just feel like, no, there's just no way an
Speaker 1: Australian would go to Ghana and be like this makes sense.
Speaker 1: It is the most no man's land wild wild West
Speaker 1: experience you could ever think of. And the funny thing
Speaker 1: is longer you stay there, the more you normalize it.
Speaker 1: So an example, right road rules optional optional traffic lights,
Speaker 1: amuse them if you want to roundabouts, give way to
Speaker 1: whoever whenever or not, just beep your way through. Road
Speaker 1: Rage really isn't that much of a thing. But there's
Speaker 1: just general aggression because everyone's like, I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: get to where I'm going in the time. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get there.
Speaker 2: Let me work my truth.
Speaker 1: That's pretty standard. That's fine. Then there's this like tipping culture.
Speaker 1: On crack we talk a lot about tipping culture. Generally
Speaker 1: we're Australians, we don't necessarily have to, but I guess,
Speaker 1: you know the implications of American lifestyle bleeding into Australian
Speaker 1: cultures that we start to absorb this kind of behavior.
Speaker 1: Got to eat. You tip people whatever, ghana, you're tipping
Speaker 1: for everything. It's like you're tipping for being a foreigner.
Speaker 1: You're tipping because it's Christmas. You're tipping because on the
Speaker 1: way to the bathroom somebody showed you where the bathroom was.
Speaker 1: It just happened to work at the establishments. So you
Speaker 1: gotta like fang them something small. And then let's say
Speaker 1: you're gonna catch a cab rat and some random man
Speaker 1: on the side of the street sees you get into
Speaker 1: the cabin opens the door for you. He'll then say, oh,
Speaker 1: something small for the boys, which means something that's the
Speaker 1: phrase something small for the boys something small for the boys,
Speaker 1: and you know what it means, Yeah, the boy is
Speaker 1: something small in Ghana, I've expressed this bit of no
Speaker 1: man's land and that definitely extends to crime, extortion and
Speaker 1: various like potentially illegal things. And so I would say
Speaker 1: maybe every other day when we would driving through, we
Speaker 1: get stopped by cops. Right, and this is not like
Speaker 1: tolls or like the traffic light is working, and the
Speaker 1: cops are like trying to direct you and where to go,
Speaker 1: just rogue cops and soldiers setting up their own barricades
Speaker 1: to extort you. So like you will drive, I'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: there are cops coming. And sometimes if you're a woman
Speaker 1: driving because like you know, chicks and everything, they'll let
Speaker 1: you go like oh, you know, go on. But every
Speaker 1: other time they'll be like, oh, can I have some
Speaker 1: money for malt? Can I have some money for a
Speaker 1: little drink? Just something small? It's Christmas Christmas money. And
Speaker 1: then so you're saying them something like a little twenty here,
Speaker 1: a little thirty there, But realistically they're not gonna take
Speaker 1: that money back to the cop with the cops shop,
Speaker 1: They're just like putting in their pockets. So the more
Speaker 1: you try and resist, you're only making it more difficult
Speaker 1: for yourself because they do have some kind of authority,
Speaker 1: but not.
Speaker 2: Legal authority, so you can't necessarily. It's an inside job, So.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 1: But then it's kind of like there are no rules.
Speaker 1: So in the same way that you're getting extorted over here,
Speaker 1: you're off here doing something illegal anyway, like driving with
Speaker 1: no license. Not gonna incriminate anyone who drove when you
Speaker 1: were there, not gonna incriminate anyway. Who do you work for?
Speaker 2: Do people assume that you're a foreigner?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: How can they takele.
Speaker 1: Assume I'm not only a foreigner but an American because
Speaker 1: Australia does not exist generally, but also in the eyes
Speaker 1: of Ghanians. I'll say Australia, they'll say Austria, and then
Speaker 1: we'll have a conversation about I'm not European, right, you know?
Speaker 2: So the is it initially American because of like your style.
Speaker 1: It's just I always try and ask it's not just
Speaker 1: the style, it's the aesthetic. It's my skin tone, it's
Speaker 1: the way that I'm pronouncing words in my language. It's
Speaker 1: all just kind of like Western fired But also my
Speaker 1: facial features. You would think I'd go to Ghana a
Speaker 1: bunch of doppel gangers around. Oh, I don't have a
Speaker 1: Ghanaian face, which is very disappointing.
Speaker 2: Damn Ip, though you would love it.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what happened. When I was at the
Speaker 1: airport going to Ghana. I was like, let me change
Speaker 1: some money into American dollars so I can go change
Speaker 1: it into Ghana money when I get there, and they
Speaker 1: don't take Australian dollars obviously, because who takes Australian dollars?
Speaker 1: I changed five hundred US dollars and then I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be amazing. I get to Ghana, I
Speaker 1: forget to change that money at the airport and say
Speaker 1: about two weeks into my trip, I'm like, oh, Mom,
Speaker 1: can you just take me to get this money? Exchange's like,
Speaker 1: ye're sick, we'll go now. So anyway, I meet her
Speaker 1: at this suburb she told me to go to, but
Speaker 1: it's in like I'm in like long hair, Yahoo motorcycle,
Speaker 1: Biki Gang district and I'm like, okay, why are we here?
Speaker 1: She's like, this way you get the money changed. I'm
Speaker 1: like okay, cool. Maybe there's like a little kiosk or something.
Speaker 1: There's like guys doing wheelies everywhere. There's no women, no women,
Speaker 1: it's just us with our little handbags, and like, hey,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? So my mom walks past this
Speaker 1: random tin sheard kiosk shop and she goes to this
Speaker 1: guy what's the rate? And he says eleven nine. I
Speaker 1: don't know what that means. And she's like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: we'll come back anyway. We go to the next shop.
Speaker 1: He's like, what's the rate. Mom's like, Mom's like, what's
Speaker 1: the rate. They're like eleven nine to five.
Speaker 2: So we go back.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what does that mean? What's the rate? She's like,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Anyway. We go back to the
Speaker 1: original guy. And then I'm like, oh, we're getting the
Speaker 1: money changed here. She's like yeah. I'm like looking around,
Speaker 1: like Mom, we're into the biky mechanic bikey gaing garage
Speaker 1: and she's like, oh yeah, these are cash heavy businesses,
Speaker 1: so they'll have the money for us without the kind
Speaker 1: of like tax of going to like a legit environment.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how do you know this? She's like, it's
Speaker 1: just what you do. Anyway, so we're telling him I
Speaker 1: want five hundred dollars and he's like counting the money
Speaker 1: for us, right, And then I show him my five
Speaker 1: hundred US dollars. I've got four in one hundreds and
Speaker 1: then five twenties. He's like, oh nah, this is not
Speaker 1: gonna work. I'm like, what's the issue? He's like, this
Speaker 1: is newly money. We want the old school US dollars
Speaker 1: with Benjamin on them. Franklin. Why because it's the aesthetics
Speaker 1: of it. It's very americanized. Like we don't want this
Speaker 1: new one with all the other people on it. We
Speaker 1: want the original one. So the rate that you'll get
Speaker 1: will be less because it's gonna be hard for me
Speaker 1: to flip this money. And for the twenties, these aren't
Speaker 1: worth anything. So like I can give you, like I
Speaker 1: don't know, ten something for it, but you're not gonna
Speaker 1: get the full rate.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I'm looking around like is this real? Because if I
Speaker 1: could just go to a currency exchange, I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: having these conversations anyway. Got the money, it's fine if
Speaker 1: we live.
Speaker 2: Well, what an interesting experience.
Speaker 1: It's fantastic. Everyone should go. Everybody should not go. You're
Speaker 1: gonna get scammed out of all of your money and Ghana.
Speaker 2: Did you go to the beach again?
Speaker 3: Nah?
Speaker 1: I was. I did this trip. So in February I
Speaker 1: went to Akura, which is like the Sydney and this
Speaker 1: time I went to the Canberra. So I was doing
Speaker 1: like real regional. Why because in December in Ghana it's
Speaker 1: called de December, dirty, December, tectic. Like everybody, all the
Speaker 1: diaspora goes into Ghana. Everybody's partying, like Kanye is there
Speaker 1: chance the rappers there? It's hectic, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to be clapping too much. I just want to be
Speaker 1: with goats, the farm, animals, the babies, the children, my
Speaker 1: mom I loved.
Speaker 2: Really quickly before we wrap it up. My favorite of
Speaker 2: Yrgana content this season was the stickers on the.
Speaker 1: Cart so good. We need to bring that here.
Speaker 2: Big ones, two huge ones and also there was one
Speaker 2: like bad boy or like there was something on the babes.
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Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm a Foka Cranby girl.
Speaker 4: I'm basic.
Speaker 1: No, you're eighteen, You're not basic.
Speaker 2: You're just.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: I haven't gone out that much.
Speaker 1: A little Bertie told me that you just finished high school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have.
Speaker 1: How's that going?
Speaker 2: It's pretty chill?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm distressed about what to actually do.
Speaker 1: With my life.
Speaker 2: But you know what's new.
Speaker 1: Yes, we just got to figure that out.
Speaker 2: It doesn't get better, babe.
Speaker 1: It doesn't get better, babe, it just gets worse.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Look, I mean, we don't get into an atar conversation,
Speaker 1: but you know we do know that. Oh yeah, unbelievably, unbelievably.
Speaker 1: Well it's to be expected. She did to go to
Speaker 1: a private school. I didn't do well. Shout out team
Speaker 1: fifty somethings. But you know, it all works out. It
Speaker 1: all works out. So I've everyone just kind of failed
Speaker 1: high school ish and then pick it back up in
Speaker 1: your early twenties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well that's good to hear.
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Speaker 1: information and Baptist share is going to change your life.
Speaker 1: I've found a new personality test.
Speaker 2: Tell me everything.
Speaker 1: You don't sound interested.
Speaker 2: My eyes glarted off.
Speaker 1: Your voice dropped. Why did you always drop? Tell me everything?
Speaker 1: It's really fun. It might be the only important one
Speaker 1: you need to take. It's called the Difficult person Test.
Speaker 1: Are you enthused?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Shall I continue?
Speaker 2: Please grate.
Speaker 1: So basically, it's a test that's gonna assess how difficult
Speaker 1: of a person you are. But there's a catch. Nobody
Speaker 1: can rank as not difficult. Nobody can get zero percent.
Speaker 1: Everybody is difficult in some capacity, just someone more difficult
Speaker 1: than others now from my research. And I didn't take
Speaker 1: it because I want us to take it together, not now,
Speaker 1: but in the future, somewhere so you have thirty six questions,
Speaker 1: their statements like the questions and statements like I use
Speaker 1: others for my own personal gain, slag may generally speaking,
Speaker 1: I am superior slay and I don't usually help someone
Speaker 1: unless there's something in it for me. I don't know
Speaker 1: about all that. And then once you answer all those questions,
Speaker 1: you're ranked on callousness, grandiosity, aggressiveness, suspicion, manipulative, manipulativeness, dominance,
Speaker 1: and risk taking. Now, I was going through some tiktoks
Speaker 1: of people who had taken this test and were reviewing
Speaker 1: their answers, and what I found with anybody who ranked
Speaker 1: really highly and being very difficult, they all knew how
Speaker 1: to flip it. Well, Am I dominant on my just assertive?
Speaker 1: You know? Am I manipulative? Or don't know how to
Speaker 1: ask what I want? Who knows? All I'm saying is
Speaker 1: we should take it and then armchair diagnose each other.
Speaker 2: I think I know where you would rank, Hi, it's
Speaker 2: the top percentile.
Speaker 1: Zero point zero one percent figh achiever.
Speaker 2: We want to be zero zero zero point one percent
Speaker 2: income difficulty yes, vibes flex and frooms FLEXI. I had
Speaker 2: a memory pop into my mind like it just came
Speaker 2: to me in a dream about a thing called uncanny Valley.
Speaker 2: Very you have you heard of it?
Speaker 1: Yes, but for the sake of this, no, I have not.
Speaker 2: No, you have not. Brooke hit the tape.
Speaker 4: The uncanny valley refers to a phenomenon where brains can
Speaker 4: register that something is very close to human, but we're
Speaker 4: also aware that something's not quite rape. It's the in
Speaker 4: between where we can process that something looks like a person,
Speaker 4: but it's not a person, and it causes feelings of distress.
Speaker 4: Believed to be an evolutionary mechanism which is also not
Speaker 4: exclusive to just humans, the uncanny valley is where we
Speaker 4: perceive these things to be a threat or not of us,
Speaker 4: and it can cause feelings of panic. One of the
Speaker 4: most well known modern examples of this was actually an
Speaker 4: early test screening of Shrek in two thousand, where Fiona
Speaker 4: was rendered as very hyperrealistic, so realistic that it surpassed
Speaker 4: the threshold of comfort and cartoon and moved into the
Speaker 4: uncanny valley. Children actually became so panick that this screening
Speaker 4: they were reported to be crying at the movie anytime
Speaker 4: she came on the screen.
Speaker 2: Wow, I love that can I just say, I imagine having
Speaker 2: the first run of Shrek pre digitization. I can see.
Speaker 2: So right now, we have a sheet in front of
Speaker 2: us of all these uncanny valley faces, and we have
Speaker 2: both pictures of Fiona in Shrek. One of them looks
Speaker 2: kind of like what's that actress, Felicity Hoffman. But the
Speaker 2: rest of these' it's I think it's something to do
Speaker 2: with the spacing and the eyes, but essentially they all
Speaker 2: kind of look like creepy characters you'd see in a
Speaker 2: horror movie. And it says it's something to do with evolution.
Speaker 2: You're trying to like read out different people in faces.
Speaker 2: And I have my own theory, which is that you know,
Speaker 2: there was a time where we weren't the only sentient
Speaker 2: beings on the earth.
Speaker 1: Okay, so now you believe in spooky stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay, no, let me hear it. Continue. It's not spooky
Speaker 2: unless evlation is fakey love. When there was the Neanderthals
Speaker 2: and there's something other sapiens.
Speaker 1: Homo sapiens. No, the other ones were Homo sapiens.
Speaker 2: Well you could be neandthal though potentially, so apparently there
Speaker 2: really are Neanderthals that have mixed with Homo sapiens. I
Speaker 2: always sort of people who had like a very strong brow,
Speaker 2: but apparently that's just an aesthetic thing that can happen regardless.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's not something to do with
Speaker 2: us humans, because we are savages seeing things that aren't
Speaker 2: human and needing to kill it.
Speaker 1: A humans need to want other people and then to
Speaker 1: assume the other is dangerous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can get into a whole thing.
Speaker 1: Don't don't how humans, Brook said make one point. You've
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