1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Now we know the Greens Member for Nightcliff Kat McNamara 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: or she was under the microscope last week after the 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: Colp government voted to refer her to the Privileges Committee 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: on the final day of Parliament over the use of 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: her electorate office by the Greens. Now Kat joins me 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: on the line. Good morning to your cat. 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: Morning Katie, morning everyone. 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: Now, Kat, you were absent on the afternoon of that 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: final day of parliament. To those out there listening this 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: morning who aren't aware, where were you? 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: Oh right? So Katie, Yeah, I've been in Parliament for 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: the whole sitting up until then, so you know, done 13 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: on my speeches and contributions and things from the community 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: like petitions, but people might not be where that. People 15 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: sort of come in and out of the chamber all 16 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: the time in parliament you offer meetings or interviews. And 17 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: I had been there for the first half the day, 18 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: but on the very final day, I just I had 19 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: to catch a flight interstate for my dear friend of 20 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: mine's wedding to get there in time. 21 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: And did you I mean, usually if you've got to leave, 22 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, leave the Northern Territory, you let the speaker 23 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: know that you are going. Was that something that you'd 24 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: done or was it a bit of an oversight? Oh? 25 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: Well, mostly kay, from my I understand I've spoken to. 26 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: The procedure is that if you're away, you seek leave 27 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: if you're going to miss a whole day of parliament. 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: So I haven't missed the day. I've been unwell, as 29 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: members can be unwell, and then you seek leave to be 30 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: away for the day. But because I've been there for 31 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: the first half of the day, and then people live 32 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: earlier all the time, like I wouldn't be aware when 33 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: other members have left early for various reasons. So as 34 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: far as I'm aware, that's not a process that I 35 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: needed to do. 36 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: Now, the COLP has an accused you of misusing member 37 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: entitlements over a Greens Party event in the community room, 38 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: so that was happening on the same afternoon and the lines, 39 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: I guess they'd sort of blurred them by making it 40 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: sound as though you were at that. Were you at that? No, 41 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like it. 42 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: Well no, not all. They hadn't kind of blurred them. 43 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: They have explicitly put out factually incorrect misinformation about and 44 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: crucially Katie when I contacted them, when I found out 45 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: when I saw them media release they put out but 46 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 2: essentially lying and saying that I had left Parliament to 47 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: a tennis event blah blah blah. I contacted them directly, 48 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: contacted the minisesoutpulla release, contacted the media person and said 49 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: a few of them said hey, I wasn't actually there. 50 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: I'm inter state. You need to retract that and correct it, 51 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: and they refused. So that to me, I mean, is 52 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 2: obviously incredibly disappointing that apparently the truth doesn't even matter 53 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: in these kind of things. But yeah, no, so just 54 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: to be clear to everyone, I wasn't involved in the event. 55 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: You needed to planning whatsoever and I wasn't there. 56 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: I guess the issue is so that a party political 57 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: event happened at your office and that is against the rules. 58 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: Why did you allow that to happen? 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: Sure, so very happy to speak about this. So basically, 60 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: also in case you're aren't aware, we have most officers 61 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: have community rooms and ours is used flat out, which 62 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: is fantastic. We have lots of community groups using that, 63 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 2: so I don't I'm not in charge of I don't 64 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: oversee all the bookings obviously because that's a lot. So 65 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: that's delegated to my staff. Now, unfortunately, my electure officer 66 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: was away during this time, and so the person who 67 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: was filling in had booked in this event whilst not 68 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: being aware of, say like the inappropriate or appropriate uses 69 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 2: of the room. So look, I'm this process of the 70 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: Privileges Committee, like I'm you know, I'm glad that it exists. 71 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: We obviously need this kind of oversight to make sure 72 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: things happen correctly. So I'm really looking forward to going 73 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: before them, whatever the process is going to be, and 74 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 2: getting some clarification on this and also getting to clear 75 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: the air a bit on it. 76 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: Look, I did question if it was a political distraction 77 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: last week, and I'll go to that in a second, 78 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: but I guess, you know, again, the problem is is 79 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: that you sort of leave yourself a bit open here 80 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: because there'll be people listening that are saying, well, hang on, 81 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, this was on Facebook that this event was happening, 82 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: and it was on social media. So how can she then, 83 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: as a local member, say that she wasn't aware that 84 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: it was happening at her office. 85 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: Look, it's just it said. Unfortunately, I think confluence of 86 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: events having uh, you know, my electro office away and 87 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: these things booked in and look, it's look, it's absolutely 88 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to this process to get clarification on 89 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: what and what isn't allowed, and then I can definitely 90 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: put in some stronger boundaries and guidelines for my staff 91 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: in this office. I just want to make it clear 92 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: that if this is the first time Degreenes have ever 93 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: used the office or anything like this, you know, it's 94 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: it's mostly used for all different kinds of community groups 95 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: that come in and use it. And you know, like 96 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: I said, like, I'm really open to hearing, to seeing 97 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: what the privileged Committee process will be, and then putting 98 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: in some better guidelines in my office. 99 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: Do you think it's appropriate for party political events to 100 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: be held at electoral offices? 101 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean there is obviously a good reason 102 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: for caution around this because people want to make sure 103 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: that you're not doing party stuff, like the members are 104 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: not doing party stuff, you know, during their working hours 105 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: for the party and things like that. And I have 106 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 2: been since this all hit the news, I sort of 107 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: have been inundated with people sending me screenshots and videos 108 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: of other electorate offices being used for similar things. So 109 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: I'm really looking to get some clarity on this, yea, 110 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: and yeah, so look, definitely, definitely And the Greens have 111 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: told me that they if it's found to be an 112 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: inappropriate use of the room, that they're happy to refund 113 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: the hour and a half of lighting and air conditioning 114 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: for the use of the room. And yeah, well I've 115 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: got once again, like you know, this is what the 116 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 2: privileges process is for. And so I'm happy to come 117 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: back on the show after it's finished and let you 118 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: know how it went. 119 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: I know that Jonathan Parry had said at the time 120 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: that they got advice that it was appropriate use. Do 121 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: you know where he got that advice from. 122 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm a little I'm still trying to wigh 123 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 2: through the details of that, and so I'm not sure 124 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: if they got clear cut advice on that. I think 125 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: I think a lot of I guess a lot of 126 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: the things often can be kind of they aren't actually 127 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: clear cut. It's just, you know, things are interpretation. You've 128 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: got to be careful that lines aren't crossed, which is 129 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: all really fair enough. So I can't I can't speak 130 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: for what the Greens. 131 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: Are well, particularly and you know, I think particular when 132 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: you are a politician. I know that you and I 133 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: have spoken before about integrity and about people doing the 134 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: right things. So I guess that if you're going to, 135 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, to be a politician that does that, then 136 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: you've got to make sure that you're doing it right 137 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: from your perspective as well. Oh. 138 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, Katie. And that's why I, like, you know, 139 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: I'm very open to this process. I'm very much cheened 140 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: to be part of it. I mean, I'm glad the 141 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: Prilitgic Committee exists exactly for this reason, right, And I mean, 142 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 2: the thing is, it's not going to stop me from 143 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: continuing to shine a light on the really serious integrity 144 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: issues and crises and allegations that are happening all the 145 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: time with this government. And I think that, you know, 146 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: I'm open to being transparent and getting to the bottom 147 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: of things, and I want to see the government do 148 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: the same like you know. For example, on a similar vein, 149 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: we had all the accusations about the white cars, the 150 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,679 Speaker 2: inapropriate use of white cars, taxpayer fund of white cars, 151 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: and the shadow ministries, which means that all the backbenches 152 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: presumably get access to the white cars too. And when 153 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: the government was asked, hey, can you clarify the rules 154 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: your rules around white car they just refused, so I 155 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: would like to also see them be transparent around this 156 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. 157 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: Do you think that this whole process and the calling 158 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: out of your office being used for a party political event, 159 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: do you think it's a distraction. 160 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: I mean, on one hand, no, I think that everyone, 161 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: every sitting member needs to be held accountable, and there 162 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: has to be transparency around the use of things like 163 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: you know, electro office and things like that. So and 164 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: that's why I'm happy to go through the process. But 165 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: there is also a part which you know, many many 166 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: people have pointed out to me over the last few 167 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: days a Lo've been contacted by so many people who 168 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: have said, well, this is clearly retaliation for, well, a 169 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: distraction from some of the very serious integrity issues that 170 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: they're facing, but also a retaliation for, say, like the 171 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: censure motion I put forward last week. So I think 172 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: there are a lot of people who can kind of 173 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: see it for what it truly is, which is like 174 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: a pretty pretty blatant political attack to try and kind 175 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: of silence me. 176 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: You mentioned a few moments ago as well that people 177 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: have sent you photos and videos of other members using 178 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: their offers for party political events or activities. Who and where? 179 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: Oh, look, I mean they're on Facebook, so anyone can 180 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: go have a look. I don't really want to get 181 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: caught into the you know, he said, she said, I've 182 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: got the stuff. I'll be taken up with me to 183 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: privileges as well. Yes, because I think it's a genuine question. Aro. 184 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, hey, if this I'm getting pulled up 185 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: for this, this is some other evidence. Can maybe we 186 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: get some clearer guidelines, So I'll bring that with me 187 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 2: when I go to Privileges committee. I don't really think 188 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: it's very helpful for this whole dialogue to go. And 189 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: this is the thing is that I'm I'm not interested 190 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: in like the personal attacks for like political gain. I'm 191 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: just really interested in, you know, people acting in the 192 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: best uses of their community, making sure things are above board, 193 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: and that's what I want to do. 194 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: Well. Look, I appreciate the fact that you've come on 195 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: and answered all of these questions because I know that 196 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: there's been plenty of people sort of wanting to know 197 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: what the go was. But I also wanted you to 198 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: come on because we wanted to ask you about this 199 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: petition that you launched into a review of safety measures 200 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: along Baggett Road. Now, we had Bill Yan on the 201 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: show yesterday, the Transport Minister. We asked him about this 202 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: and certainly spoke about the fact that you've launched this petition. 203 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: He reckons the departments working on it, including implementing lighting, 204 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: new technology as well. Do you think that goes far enough? 205 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: What do you reckon needs to happen along Baggott Road there? 206 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, good point. Look, I'd be very keen to see 207 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: those details of what the minister is talking about, because 208 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: lighting is one of the things that's mentioned in the 209 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: Menzies Health Report around some of the actions you can 210 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: take to improve safety. So this petition, actually I'm kind 211 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: of I'm giving a new energy. It actually was a 212 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: petition that started before I got in and with the 213 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: previous candidate Suki, and alongside there were some cyclists that 214 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: came and brought this to her attention that was some 215 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: really serious safety issues on the road. So I basically so, great, well, 216 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: let's re get this petition re gooing again. Because I've 217 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 2: had a lot of different groups from parents with kids, 218 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 2: cyclists and also drivers who've all said from different perspectives 219 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: around some of the ways that that road is really dangerous. 220 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: And so what I've done is because it's a road 221 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: that borders a whole bunch of our electorates, I have 222 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: contacted all the relevant MLAs for all the electrics wear 223 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: bag at road borders and said, hey, I'm doing this 224 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: petition on the request from a lot of community members 225 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 2: who are concerned about safety, would love some, you know, 226 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: cross parliamentary support on trying to improve the safety here. 227 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 2: I've got some feedback from the primary school as well. 228 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: So yeah, there are a whole bunch of things. And 229 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: that's why I've asked for a safety review because you know, 230 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: I'm obviously not an engineer, like I don't have all 231 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: the answers, but what the government must do a review into, Like, Okay, 232 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: we've got a whole bunch of pedestrian deaths happening here. 233 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: We've also got a lot of near misses. What are 234 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: the issues is at the bus stops? Is it the lighting? 235 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: Is it the speed? And we've got to kind of 236 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: we've got to make that road safe. 237 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: I think, well, yesterday we had the Pedestrian Council on 238 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: the show Harold Scrooby, people went off when he suggested 239 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: that the speed limit should be slowed right down. You know, 240 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: they were not happy about that. But look, I do 241 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: think that there should be or there could be some 242 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: other safety measures to try to keep it safe for everybody, 243 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: particularly not you know, nobody wants to be in a 244 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: situation where a pedestrian is struck, not the person behind 245 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: the wheel of the vehicle, not the person who is 246 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: on the receiving end, you know, and there needs to 247 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: be some personal responsibility from all of us as well 248 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: to make sure that we're doing the right thing. 249 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I know that Lauren speed limits tends to 250 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 2: get some people. It's not super popular among some groups 251 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: of people, But I will say that, I mean a 252 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: primary school you don't really want to be going. I'm 253 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: sure that most people, particularly the parents of the kids 254 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: at that school. Eighty kilometers alongside a primary school is 255 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: it doesn't feel safe. And look, that's why I've also 256 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 2: linked with the petition this report so Mendy's Health have done. 257 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: I think I think it was a ten year study 258 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 2: on pedestrian decima territory and so they've got like a 259 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: whole list of factors of what goes into those desks 260 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: like what are the contributing factors and what are some 261 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: of the actions that you can take to help reduce that? 262 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 2: And yes, one of the things is to reduce speed, 263 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: but that would be up to hopefully when we get 264 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: some kind of safety audit done and we can figure out, okay, 265 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: in this particular set here for this road, what would 266 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: work here? 267 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: Well, Kat Magdamara, the Greens member for Nightcliff, We're gonna 268 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: have to leave it there. Thanks so much for your 269 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: time this morning. Much appreciate it. 270 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: No worries, thanks Kay, Thank you.