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Speaker 2: Yep, hello is this?
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Speaker 3: Hello, Delton is my name and cooling from the Waterloo
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Speaker 1: Is that true for normal?
Speaker 4: Look funk off?
Speaker 5: Whoever you are.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't lift shem of your tech for whom darling?
Speaker 4: Listen, I fucking thought this was a scam. It's that
Speaker 4: fucking border.
Speaker 5: Now listen. Oh, I've told you, I've boxed your number.
Speaker 5: I told you not to call me because I can
Speaker 5: people about the bullshit you go on about on this show,
Speaker 5: which I'm assuming you're doing right now.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you, Gordy, I know where.
Speaker 5: You work, and I'm happy to get lawyers involved because
Speaker 5: I'm kind of sick of it.
Speaker 3: Usually if you could.
Speaker 4: With you as well.
Speaker 2: Guilty has charged this old man has been following me
Speaker 2: around all day.
Speaker 5: What are you doing for?
Speaker 4: Seriously, it's bad for your credibility. I don't even know
Speaker 4: how it's good for your business. I have to sue
Speaker 4: you as well.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: We are used to.
Speaker 1: Would we share it? Woodloo?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 1: It's sure a woodloo. You'll have no trouble having a poo.
Speaker 3: You're not even.
Speaker 5: I'm sick of the text message I get from people
Speaker 5: telling you the bullshit you're going on about.
Speaker 1: Gordy God, you're a grumpy old man. Have you had
Speaker 1: your bloody prostate check lately? Not by your wife?
Speaker 5: You boys have had a letical problems before. Why do
Speaker 5: you have to keep bagging me when I'm not on
Speaker 5: your show?
Speaker 1: Well, because it's pretty fucking fun.
Speaker 2: Actually, I wanted to ask you so. I was listening
Speaker 2: to a podcast the other day, The Verge, which we've
Speaker 2: seen found out as a highly work podcast. But anyway,
Speaker 2: they were talking about the Apple and how that is
Speaker 2: basically now dead in the water. What can you tell
Speaker 2: us about the Apple car?
Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you it was never a thing.
Speaker 5: Oh really, Here's here's how I say it. I said
Speaker 5: it as they realized that they could provide software right,
Speaker 5: which they do now with car Play, but also they're
Speaker 5: going next generation the whole infotainment system, the dash cluster,
Speaker 5: everything will be driven by your phone. We know only
Speaker 5: Audi and Porsche working with them, right. I believe truly
Speaker 5: that they got together some of the engineers car engineers
Speaker 5: in the world into a team, and that team didn't
Speaker 5: truly know what they were working on, and that's why
Speaker 5: we got leaks.
Speaker 4: Saying that they were working on a car, but actually.
Speaker 5: What they were doing was working on how cars work,
Speaker 5: how to OEM dams, how can they use the iPhone
Speaker 5: to drive all of the digital displays in a car?
Speaker 5: And that is I think was all always their goal.
Speaker 4: I don't think they ever wanted to build.
Speaker 5: A car, so I don't think they got any Remember
Speaker 5: how Dice and We're going to.
Speaker 2: Build a car. Yeah, yeah, like they.
Speaker 4: Literally built a model and went, nah, this is not
Speaker 4: for us. Apple never did that, no way in the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it makes perfect sense when you think
Speaker 2: about it that way, because they're going to earn way
Speaker 2: more money selling software to these car companies, and they
Speaker 2: will making a car incredibly complex. The other one I'm
Speaker 2: interested in as well. Last episode we were talking about
Speaker 2: by d Shark, what do you reckon if you have
Speaker 2: a crystal ball next one to five years, EV sales
Speaker 2: they're going to go up or are we going to
Speaker 2: see plug in hybrids tacking EVS?
Speaker 5: Yeah. I've always believed in plugging hybrids is the best
Speaker 5: gateway to the future.
Speaker 4: So I think they've got.
Speaker 5: More road to grow.
Speaker 4: I reckon over that five year period.
Speaker 5: It really depends what the car companies do with the
Speaker 5: reality of pricing. Devices get more realistic. And we've talked
Speaker 5: about on this show and I'll talk about for years,
Speaker 5: the gap between the petrol choice and the electric choice
Speaker 5: is too much, too much. If it's lower, it's obtainable
Speaker 5: and desirable, But at the moment it's really we've really
Speaker 5: reached the end of the early adopt the phase. So yeah,
Speaker 5: I'd probably if I had to put my money on something,
Speaker 5: i'd back plug in hybrid over over electric. Just in
Speaker 5: terms of sales growth. They're still going to sell ship
Speaker 5: tons of electric cars, but I think, you know, plug
Speaker 5: in hybrids and hybrids generally will dominate the next five years.
Speaker 2: Okay, and last question for me. They've just revealed the
Speaker 2: Hyundai Ionic nine. I think that looks absolutely horrific. What
Speaker 2: are your thoughts given that they are virtually the same
Speaker 2: car under the skin.
Speaker 5: It's amazing that the company you can have such broadly
Speaker 5: different designs. Don't you think I forget forget for a moment,
Speaker 5: You've already talked about it. I'm sure the fucking key
Speaker 5: it hasn't. Hasn't that?
Speaker 1: I was going to say it the key Tasman, you
Speaker 1: loved it, right, I.
Speaker 4: Just it doesn't make sense. O. You go to Hoyando
Speaker 4: and you go, what are you?
Speaker 5: What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me at all.
Speaker 5: But Paul, I've got a question for you. What the
Speaker 5: fuck do you do this show?
Speaker 2: You know what has happened now is Gordon has descended
Speaker 2: to getting fake names to leave reviews on our on
Speaker 2: our podcast, you got.
Speaker 5: Like an Indian call center boxing to start doing downloads
Speaker 5: for that.
Speaker 4: Looks like you.
Speaker 1: Got you let my ex wife out of there. Very good, well, Trevor,
Speaker 1: thank you for answering your phone. Are you in bed
Speaker 1: right now, Trevor, I'm in bed.
Speaker 2: What sort of.
Speaker 1: Pajamas are you wearing?
Speaker 4: I don't wear pajamas.
Speaker 1: You're naked. I always pissed it like trev with one
Speaker 1: of those night hats carrying a candle and one of
Speaker 1: those like.
Speaker 5: The candle and the hat for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's Trevor. Well, thank you, Trevor.
Speaker 3: You have a good before you go, Lucien, please don't
Speaker 3: Jim for sure you church and shind if I you
Speaker 3: church and Shindo. Don't mention Jimmy your gay shoulder and
Speaker 3: the shade take you mate.
Speaker 5: You've got a career.
Speaker 1: Have I think the same thing about you?
Speaker 2: So you Trev.
Speaker 1: I love you, Trev. Goodbye, lovey bye. Okay you're ready
Speaker 1: for a game?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: We landed on Ferrari Ferrari winning the game. Hey you
Speaker 1: forward super Dudy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big announcement from Ford so Ford Ranger super Dudy.
Speaker 2: It is basically a car that exists to solve a
Speaker 2: problem for a small group, but a big group, and
Speaker 2: that big group is fleets, specifically fleets that do GVM
Speaker 2: after market upgrades for vehicles they use on site, so mines,
Speaker 2: emergency services, et cetera, instruction companies, all that. We actually
Speaker 2: did a session with Ford and they ran us through
Speaker 2: who they're targeting with this, and they used a good
Speaker 2: example where they had like a guy that was doing
Speaker 2: regional firefighting and what they would have to do with
Speaker 2: some of their trucks, like the seventy series. They would
Speaker 2: do a GVM upgrade and they would have a certain
Speaker 2: capacity of water they could have on the tray to
Speaker 2: then take to a fire scene. Well, they're limited by
Speaker 2: the amount of water they can have because the payload
Speaker 2: is limited on the vehicle even with the GVM upgrade.
Speaker 2: So by giving a company like that a nimble vehicle
Speaker 2: that you can drive on fire trails that isn't an
Speaker 2: enormous truck because it'll get stuck. But with more GVM
Speaker 2: from the factory means that you don't need to have
Speaker 2: a mechanic that basically does GVM upgrades at your facility,
Speaker 2: which avoids the warranty, and if it comes from the factory,
Speaker 2: you've got a vehicle that sort of ticks all those
Speaker 2: boxes and that's what Ford is able to do with
Speaker 2: range of super duty. So we're talking about so we're
Speaker 2: talking about four and a half ton GVM four and
Speaker 2: a half ton towing capacity with a brake trailer. Those
Speaker 2: two things are huge. They've also just revealed that it
Speaker 2: will have eight studs on its hub, so that is
Speaker 2: that's big because like a good looking blokes in the
Speaker 2: tray eight polls. So basically it just means that the
Speaker 2: hubs are engineered to take that extra load be big.
Speaker 2: And Ford is talking about it existing. I gues see
Speaker 2: it's sitting on the Ranger platform. It's probably going to
Speaker 2: be wider, it's probably going to look a little different
Speaker 2: to a current Ranger, given that you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: do a huge amount of upgrades beneath the skin to
Speaker 2: make this happen. So yeah, and it'll be expensive as well.
Speaker 2: I reckon plus twenty grand on top of a standard Ranger.
Speaker 1: I was going to ask about that, like where this
Speaker 1: would said price Guide like mid tier but quite up there.
Speaker 2: We'll think about it at the moment. If you go
Speaker 2: buy seventy series and then you go to a GVM upgrade,
Speaker 2: you're paying seventy or eighty grand for a seventy series
Speaker 2: or one twenty if you want of the Dreamers that's
Speaker 2: on car sales, and then you're paying probably fifteen grand
Speaker 2: to do a GVM upgrade that is avoiding the warranty.
Speaker 2: So basically, once it's done, you've got to restore it
Speaker 2: to factory to sell it. So there's a lot of
Speaker 2: work that goes on there. If you could just spend
Speaker 2: twenty grand on top of ranger, so you've got factory warranty.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting point because as soon as you do
Speaker 1: start stacking on the extra gear and whatnot, you're spending
Speaker 1: a lot of money. And yeah, it does put the
Speaker 1: warranty in some sort of disreput generally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it'll be cool. So it's coming out twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six, they'll reveal it next year. Twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: given out quickly. The Chinese are replicating cars. It wouldn't
Speaker 2: surprise me if the Chinese basically launched a copy cat
Speaker 2: of this and launched a four four did so. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Hey, the twenty twenty five LDV tear on at nine.
Speaker 1: I've seen the EV sister brother of this. I've only
Speaker 1: seen this in the Camo rap that it's got going on.
Speaker 2: Would you believe the electric version is called the e
Speaker 2: Tehon nine.
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't believe that. Actually I would believe that
Speaker 1: because it's in the news story that I sent you.
Speaker 2: Yep, but didn't read. So this is basically a replacement
Speaker 2: for the T sixty the current year that they run.
Speaker 2: But fascinatingly enough, it will be sold alongside the current
Speaker 2: T sixty, which tells me that this is going to
Speaker 2: be expensive, so they'll probably jack the price up a
Speaker 2: little bit, so you can still buy the cheat one
Speaker 2: if you want, but then you can also have this.
Speaker 2: It looks pretty good in terms of the specs, so
Speaker 2: basically it'll have a GVM between thirty three twenty and
Speaker 2: thirty five hundred kilos, so it gives you a pretty
Speaker 2: decent range there in terms of brake Towne capacity and payload.
Speaker 2: It's also fairly big as well, five and a half
Speaker 2: meters long just under two meters wide, so it will
Speaker 2: be a whopper of a thing three point three meter
Speaker 2: wheelbase as well, so be fairly big. And I think
Speaker 2: that LDV has done a great job with the T
Speaker 2: sixty in terms of the drive train, so I'm hoping
Speaker 2: this feels just as good behind the wheel.
Speaker 1: I think LDV has done great in general in the
Speaker 1: last couple of years since launching. I think their utes
Speaker 1: are very accessible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so look, I think I think they're onto a
Speaker 2: good thing with it. It'll just be the price. I'll
Speaker 2: be curious to see where they land in terms of pricing,
Speaker 2: because you don't want it to be super expensive, and
Speaker 2: some of these brands really are starting to jack their
Speaker 2: prices up. MG's looking to go more premium, and if
Speaker 2: these guys do the same, it's going to make it
Speaker 2: a little bit tricky to access some of this stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting what LDV came out with saying that
Speaker 1: we want to make a un We want to make
Speaker 1: the buyer walk into LDVS showrooms and basically have a
Speaker 1: lot on offer, like different ranges and different price points
Speaker 1: and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: So, and LDV has been around for a while. It's
Speaker 2: one of those Chinese brands that that's been here for
Speaker 2: a while but doesn't have a huge range of cars.
Speaker 2: Whereas you look at some of the new Chinese brands
Speaker 2: have just arrived, they just have hundreds of models. You know,
Speaker 2: it's not literally, but many models. So yeah, still keeping
Speaker 2: you up, Olivia.
Speaker 1: How on? Oh you know what I checked out the
Speaker 1: other day, Yeah, Coopra, not Trevors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Taviascan, of the Tavascan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Tavascan, which sounds like some sort of terrible
Speaker 1: scan you get done at a hospital.
Speaker 2: I've got the Tavascan and it's all clear.
Speaker 1: Than it's all good. Yours came back. I thought you
Speaker 1: copped a dose. My tabascan came back with all sorts
Speaker 1: of issues. Yes, oh, man, I tell.
Speaker 5: You what I had.
Speaker 1: That was a lump spotted. There was like some there
Speaker 1: was some swelling going on my Taverascan. Just I've got
Speaker 1: a follow up specialist appointment with my Taverascan. Well, fuck them.
Speaker 1: They don't let me drive their cars.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. So the Tabascan I
Speaker 1: did sit in it the other day and get to
Speaker 1: drive it, which was a pity. What do you make
Speaker 1: of the interior on this, because jesu, it's a real different,
Speaker 1: standout sort of a car. I like the fact that
Speaker 1: they're going balls are you know, I like a real
Speaker 1: brave interior.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think it's different. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: angles and stuff.
Speaker 1: There's that weird spine thing in the middle. It looks
Speaker 1: like it's got like a snake skin on it.
Speaker 2: We were looking at the same thing, but yes, yes,
Speaker 2: we definitely are. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, look, I like it.
Speaker 2: I think it's different and it just gives you something
Speaker 2: that isn't just generic and boring in this segment, which
Speaker 2: is often what you find.
Speaker 1: Mmm, Corpra really bring in like a lot to the
Speaker 1: table next year. Oh you know what, I'm actually genuinely
Speaker 1: excited about. The Leon is going to have like a
Speaker 1: sports tour version.
Speaker 2: Yes, so it's like driven. It's quite good.
Speaker 1: Oh is it so? From top of my head? Tell
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: It's got the.
Speaker 1: It's got the Goldfi engine in it, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure exactly. I didn't read this. I
Speaker 2: drove it before we knew what we were getting, right,
Speaker 2: But we drive a plug in hybrid and I think
Speaker 2: the version with the gold Fire engine as well. And
Speaker 2: it's a fun car. Yeah, really cool. Good to see
Speaker 2: wagons making a comeback finally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's kind of it's a small wagon, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's a little nimble wagon.
Speaker 2: It's not outrage It's not like a SUPERB, which is
Speaker 2: huge and not that good. It's it's sort of just
Speaker 2: nicely sized.
Speaker 1: Not that superb. Where should we go now?
Speaker 2: Home? By the sounds of it, Gordy, you've worked with
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Speaker 1: I noticed you've been getting around looking a little bit
Speaker 1: more fancier than usual. Ah see see yeah, you have
Speaker 1: been practicing your Italian who wearing a buttoned up polo
Speaker 1: shirt right to the tippity top. You've got your chinos on.
Speaker 1: You're carrying around a tray of Lasagnia, which is weird.
Speaker 2: Yes, So can I just quickly before I get into
Speaker 2: more of this, just talk about Yoko Fritto, which is
Speaker 2: this amazing just delicacy that I had when we were
Speaker 2: in Italy? Is this a woman?
Speaker 1: So so anyway? So yes, yes, it's.
Speaker 2: Italian bread that's served with proscuto and depending on where
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Speaker 1: Sometimes oh okay, and good food chat from you.
Speaker 2: So amazing. So if you are Italian. I need to
Speaker 2: know where you can buy this in Australia.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's really easy. So you go to the
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Speaker 1: But what is it bread?
Speaker 2: It's like a puff pastry with this protrudo on it
Speaker 2: and it'd served with that Bellsamico. But anyway, did you say, Bosmico?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Is that how you?
Speaker 1: Oh you are all right there, mate? Come down? So
Speaker 1: I lost my mum going to a cafe years I'll
Speaker 1: have and she'll have a espresso and give us a
Speaker 1: slice of carrot cake. Two thanks darling with you and
Speaker 1: your Besmico. So yeah, I was in Italy.
Speaker 2: We would doing a tour of the Ferrari factory and
Speaker 2: just looking at the Fierano test track as well in
Speaker 2: Furano and the factory is unreal. So we got to
Speaker 2: do a tour of the sort of main factory in Marinello.
Speaker 2: It's the only place they make Ferraris, with the exception
Speaker 2: of one Ferrari that I'll tell you about very soon.
Speaker 2: So yeah, basically this factory, they have green space inside
Speaker 2: so they cast their own engines. They basically assemble all
Speaker 2: their own engines. So through the factory you'll see mixture
Speaker 2: of V six, V eight and V twelve engines being assembled,
Speaker 2: and they even have like sections with trees in the
Speaker 2: middle where people just want green space to sort of
Speaker 2: hang out.
Speaker 1: Of course, do you have one of those car expert
Speaker 1: a tree and yeah, I think you've just got a
Speaker 1: couple of pop plants. During the Christmas party you do
Speaker 1: to pup in one.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was it was unreal, so really really
Speaker 2: cool to see that. And also the Fiurano test track,
Speaker 2: We've got to test the SF ninety and the two
Speaker 2: nine six GTV on the track there. It was wet,
Speaker 2: which wasn't great, but the test track itself is all
Speaker 2: basically Enzo Ferrari's house was virtually in the center of
Speaker 2: this and he wanted the test track built around it
Speaker 2: so that he could see the cars being tested. And yeah,
Speaker 2: up until recently they're actually testing Formula one cars there,
Speaker 2: but they're not allowed to do that anymore at Fierano,
Speaker 2: so it's just road cars.
Speaker 1: The house still their house is still there and no
Speaker 1: so no.
Speaker 2: One's really allowed in there. But they've even got literally
Speaker 2: housing adjacent to the track. And there's a section of
Speaker 2: the track where there's a noise meter and you have
Speaker 2: to let off the throttle at certain parts to not
Speaker 2: trigger the noise meter. It's triggered a certain amount of
Speaker 2: times in a day off to shut down. And there's
Speaker 2: an apartment building, like a three or four story apartment
Speaker 2: building literally on the track, so imagine having a room
Speaker 2: there where you can just see all these cars driving around.
Speaker 2: They even have this incredible fighter plane inside the test
Speaker 2: track and it was donated to Ferrari by the Italian
Speaker 2: government because they used the fighter jet to stage this
Speaker 2: drag race with Formula one cars and basically the Formula
Speaker 2: one car from Ferrari kept winning and they could not
Speaker 2: get this fighter jet to beat it in this one
Speaker 2: mile drag race. Wow, end up donating the fuselage, so.
Speaker 1: This fighter Jets a piece of shit, just give it
Speaker 1: to them. They probably had a bet like, hey, whoever
Speaker 1: wins this lab against the fighter.
Speaker 2: Jet it's so cool. So I really appreciated just seeing
Speaker 2: that and being immersed in that because the Ferrari Factories
Speaker 2: is unreal. It is just such an incredible place. But
Speaker 2: the Ferrari that wasn't made in Italy is actually it's
Speaker 2: called a Ferrari Testa Rossa and it is a small
Speaker 2: electric Ferrari that is basically big enough for one adult,
Speaker 2: and we used it in a drag race series that
Speaker 2: is about to go live or has gone live on
Speaker 2: our site. And in addition to that, we used a
Speaker 2: stack of other cars from one of our investors, including
Speaker 2: stuff like the Lamborghinichian't, the Cortage and a new one obviously,
Speaker 2: the new one of McLaren's like center p one so
Speaker 2: awesome series. Make sure you hit the Car Expert YouTube
Speaker 2: channel to vomited in my mouth. Yeah, make sure you
Speaker 2: hit to the Car Expert YouTube channel to check that
Speaker 2: out and to have a look at the Ferrari Testa Rossa, Yeah,
Speaker 2: which is a fun little thing.
Speaker 1: Going back to that jet for a second, did you
Speaker 1: ever see that documentary that was done about Pepsi and
Speaker 1: it was called something like Pepsi Wears My Jet? That
Speaker 1: was incredible.
Speaker 2: Yep. That was a good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nearly got himself, well, he nearly got himself a
Speaker 1: fucking large payout, and then he stupidly got principles and
Speaker 1: then he didn't get a thing. Wait did he get anything?
Speaker 2: I don't think. I think he got like some free
Speaker 2: pepsi or something. I don't think actually got anything.
Speaker 1: He got nothing. He got a documentary made. Yeah, pretty
Speaker 1: much anyway. Um Oh, hey, Toyota land Cruise O Prato. Yes, interesting, interesting, Yes,
Speaker 1: I think straight up this is a great looking car,
Speaker 1: and if we could judge a book by its cover,
Speaker 1: they would and they will sell a ton of these.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: But I think there's a little I think there's an
Speaker 1: asterix next to this.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so look I had a chance to extensively
Speaker 2: drive the Altitude, which is one down from the top
Speaker 2: spec in terms of the lineup. They started over seventy
Speaker 2: grand now and that's the base, huge, huge money. They
Speaker 2: finish it over one hundred grand. On the road. There's
Speaker 2: only two five seat variants and only one variant, which
Speaker 2: is the Altitude with a rear differential lock. Everything else
Speaker 2: has a torson centertif and then traction control effectively and
Speaker 2: then low range altitude is the other one with the
Speaker 2: red diff lock. Now, it created a bit of a
Speaker 2: stir online because I don't know how to etemuff this up.
Speaker 2: But the cargo space is an absolute disaster. So they've
Speaker 2: got the five seat version has to have space for
Speaker 2: a forty eight mild hybrid battery and cooling system, and
Speaker 2: to fit that in, they've basically reserved a space beneath
Speaker 2: the cargo floor and it causes the cargo floor to
Speaker 2: sit up by fifteen or twenty centimeters. That is if
Speaker 2: you get five seats. If you get seven seats, it's
Speaker 2: even worse because the seven seats sit on top of
Speaker 2: the already raised cargo.
Speaker 1: Oh does it?
Speaker 2: And to create a flat floor, I haven't seen that
Speaker 2: they've installed this box that is, I reckon, maybe thirty
Speaker 2: centimeters tall.
Speaker 1: So where does so the seats sit on top of
Speaker 1: this box that's in the boot, the very.
Speaker 2: Container for the forty eight Yeah yeah, yeah. So it
Speaker 2: is an absolute disaster. And what Toyota has said is
Speaker 2: that in previous generations of this car, you could take
Speaker 2: out the third row and still have a usable boot.
Speaker 2: Now they're not allowing you to do that because it
Speaker 2: runs the risk of you exposing yourself to the forty
Speaker 2: eight vault battery system, which is not twelve vaults. It
Speaker 2: can be dangerous. It's high current, so I think that's
Speaker 2: a really big miss. They've moved the spare tie from
Speaker 2: the rear of the vehicle, which they used to do
Speaker 2: with the altitude in the previous spect to underneath.
Speaker 1: But I think that's actually a great move in terms
Speaker 1: of design, Like it looks as it looks better, do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: But design it is. But the problem with the car
Speaker 2: is that it's heavier, and by moving the tire from
Speaker 2: there to under you've gone from having one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty letters of boot of fuel capacity to one hundred
Speaker 2: and ten liters, so you're reducing your range. The vehicle
Speaker 2: heavier has a carryover engine that makes the vehicle now
Speaker 2: slower even though it has more towing capacity. They've got
Speaker 2: a slight issue as well with gvms. So if you
Speaker 2: look at the GVM of the vehicle when it's fully
Speaker 2: loaded with three and a half tons of trailer and
Speaker 2: around three hundred and fifty kilo on your downball, you've
Speaker 2: got under three hundred kilo worth a payload to play
Speaker 2: with So that's two people in the front seat and
Speaker 2: then maybe a kid or two and then a bag
Speaker 2: and you're at GVM. It's before you add any accessories
Speaker 2: or anything. So I think those are the negative things
Speaker 2: that the positive things heaps. The space inside the infotainment
Speaker 2: system is fantastic. It's a huge step forward and.
Speaker 1: It looks good, it feels premium.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just wonder whether that stuff is going
Speaker 2: to annoying people enough to cancel orders. I don't think
Speaker 2: it will. I think people will buy them regardless. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I did notice a lot of the other reviews have
Speaker 2: glossed over a lot of this stuff because they were
Speaker 2: basically testing it under curated conditions by Toyota, as we
Speaker 2: had got to test it separately.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think their core audience is going to
Speaker 1: love this. We've said this previously, but I think this
Speaker 1: is going to sell right across the board, from cashed
Speaker 1: up young traders who love a bloody cruise down the
Speaker 1: beaches of Perth to that sort of like real conservative
Speaker 1: Toyota buyer at the older the way older end. The
Speaker 1: bood thing is a bit of a concern.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 1: Else, I felt a bit funny in the tummy over
Speaker 1: was the interior feels a bit Look, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: the infotainment system great step up, but the interior in
Speaker 1: it and I know Toyota have never been greater at this,
Speaker 1: but it just feels a little bit. How's it going
Speaker 1: For the price? It's like just all black. There's nothing
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You could do with a bit of color. That's what
Speaker 2: I thought, a little bit of a two tone or something. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I also don't know that people are going to love
Speaker 2: the ad blues setup. So it's a seventeen later add
Speaker 2: blue tank that will get you're about eight thousand k's.
Speaker 2: The issue that's added on to that is six month
Speaker 2: service intervals, which is just seems quite excessive. Six months
Speaker 2: instead of twelve twelve is pretty much the norm with everyone,
Speaker 2: but Toyota demands six months for some reason.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Anyway, I think the boot's going to turn
Speaker 1: people off. I think the price is going to turn
Speaker 1: people off. But I don't think it's enough for Toyota
Speaker 1: to be generally concerned about.
Speaker 2: Now they'll sell a bucket load of them. We're going
Speaker 2: to do some towing with one that we have in
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, so we'll do some more extensive testing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, look, I think it's good. I just think
Speaker 2: there's some stuff there that Toyota really has missed, which
Speaker 2: was disappointing.
Speaker 1: Actually, you know what would be great in this Toyota
Speaker 1: Prado would be our good friends in a misso oils
Speaker 1: fantastic for Japanese car.
Speaker 2: Not that one though, because that's for gasoline engine, so
Speaker 2: I would probably put the diesel.
Speaker 1: Running's go with this one right here there it is.
Speaker 1: You know what I think? Alright, this one's actually why
Speaker 1: we saved the best to last. It's the five W
Speaker 1: forty What an oil?
Speaker 2: The numbers refer to the viscosity, Oh does it? And
Speaker 2: that's the thickness of the oil.
Speaker 5: Do you know what?
Speaker 1: I went to a doctor once and he told me
Speaker 1: I had very discuous. Doesn't matter, we should wear a
Speaker 1: wrap it up. I reckon, she did sails tasty. How
Speaker 1: you know what Toyota could have benefited with, especially with
Speaker 1: their interior, is maybe looking at the Genesis Jesus, wow,
Speaker 1: now that that is Prima.
Speaker 2: That's like the salon.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine?
Speaker 6: I don't go in to your salon in Genesis GVS.
Speaker 6: Sixty and passing that big boy in his Toyota Prado.
Speaker 6: He works out, he works out. Look at those look
Speaker 6: at those things. Oh, I like this, can picture myself.
Speaker 6: I would be the hot dog in that bun extra mustard.
Speaker 6: I want to be the hot dog your bar Afka
Speaker 6: Jenesis son eighty percent of charge. I feel their fancy.
Speaker 2: I see you. You should we go for some questions? Yes,
Speaker 2: and just as a reminder while he's loading up the questions,
Speaker 2: if you know where I can find some of that,
Speaker 2: that would be great.
Speaker 1: Hey, here we go. So questions from the peeps. Thoughts
Speaker 1: on the return of Jack utes to Australia. How will
Speaker 1: it compete here? What's the story with them? That is
Speaker 1: a great question coming from Jerry's car.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I think it's good because it will be
Speaker 2: another cost effective option in the segment.
Speaker 1: Bit of competitiveness.
Speaker 2: We are taking a while though. So these have been
Speaker 2: out at dealerships for quite some time now, and I'm
Speaker 2: just wondering why they still haven't really fully launched them yet.
Speaker 2: I mean, we haven't been given one to drive, and
Speaker 2: they don't really want media driving them. So I'm just
Speaker 2: curious to know what's happening. I think it looks good though,
Speaker 2: does look good? Yeah? Cheap as well. I mean starts
Speaker 2: off at just over forty grand for a dual cabut.
Speaker 2: I think that's pretty impressive. That's decent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this question comes from Neil Dahl. Hello Neil Dahl,
Speaker 1: you sound like an author.
Speaker 3: Why aren't Auto Hit Lunch made mandatory to be on
Speaker 3: by default? Dickage with dear Ril Jon Wenkush, thanks for
Speaker 3: the question.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I tell you.
Speaker 2: Who else is a wine cut? If you go to
Speaker 2: the drive in movies.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought you were saying about Trevor. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you go to the drive in movies, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: the drive in movies? Is this the fucking nineteen forties?
Speaker 1: But genuinely, if you go to the drive in movies,
Speaker 1: when do they have drive in movies that in July
Speaker 1: I still have them.
Speaker 2: Yes, driving movies are still the thing. And there are
Speaker 2: actually times if you're the lights just keep dipping in here.
Speaker 2: It's like ghosts of radio post passed.
Speaker 1: There's a lot here. Oh my god, it's Jonathan Coleman,
Speaker 1: the ghost of Allan Jones. Oh my god, he's touching me.
Speaker 2: Leave him alone.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, leave me alone, Allen. I can't help my shelf.
Speaker 1: He's got a tasty one. Jessie sixty.
Speaker 2: So if you're like parked across the road from someone
Speaker 2: you found on Instagram or something and you want to
Speaker 2: just sit there at nighttime with your car, you've got
Speaker 2: to be able to switch the lights off. You don't
Speaker 2: want to look like a creep. It was like two
Speaker 2: in the morning or something. Well, he storky. I was
Speaker 2: just driving and I just wanted to stop.
Speaker 1: Producer Live. She is a dirty bird.
Speaker 2: KFC. Yes, I agree they shouldn't with a greasy box.
Speaker 2: I agree that you should be able to have them
Speaker 2: on automatically, but you want to be able to switch
Speaker 2: them off if you need to.
Speaker 1: Last question before we sail this thing home. It's a
Speaker 1: great question. It's my favorite that we've received in months.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite carlube? Oh, well, I can tell you mine.
Speaker 1: It's in a MIDSU lubricants.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: I like these so much. I haven't might have mine
Speaker 1: for dinner.
Speaker 2: Bit of five W forty bit.
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Speaker 1: This has been either the loosest and or shortest episode
Speaker 1: we have done in quite some time, and I regret
Speaker 1: nothing except for calling Trevor long, although it was pretty
Speaker 1: funny to wake him up.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was asleep because we're recording this quite late.
Speaker 2: Quite late anyway.
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