1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: The Driver's Show, powered by in a midsoon Nano Taylor 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: toil over a century of engineering excellence meets cutting edge 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: nano scale technology. 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: Yep, hello is this? 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: Yes? 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: Hello, Delton is my name and cooling from the Waterloo 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 3: sexual shooner? 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Is that true for normal? 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 4: Look funk off? 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 5: Whoever you are. 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: You shouldn't lift shem of your tech for whom darling? 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 4: Listen, I fucking thought this was a scam. It's that 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 4: fucking border. 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 5: Now listen. Oh, I've told you, I've boxed your number. 15 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 5: I told you not to call me because I can 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 5: people about the bullshit you go on about on this show, 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 5: which I'm assuming you're doing right now. 18 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 4: Let me tell you, Gordy, I know where. 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 5: You work, and I'm happy to get lawyers involved because 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 5: I'm kind of sick of it. 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: Usually if you could. 22 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 4: With you as well. 23 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: Guilty has charged this old man has been following me 24 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: around all day. 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 5: What are you doing for? 26 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 4: Seriously, it's bad for your credibility. I don't even know 27 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 4: how it's good for your business. I have to sue 28 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 4: you as well. 29 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 5: Well. 30 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: We are used to. 31 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: Would we share it? Woodloo? 32 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 3: Sure? 33 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: It's sure a woodloo. You'll have no trouble having a poo. 34 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: You're not even. 35 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 5: I'm sick of the text message I get from people 36 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 5: telling you the bullshit you're going on about. 37 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: Gordy God, you're a grumpy old man. Have you had 38 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: your bloody prostate check lately? Not by your wife? 39 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 5: You boys have had a letical problems before. Why do 40 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 5: you have to keep bagging me when I'm not on 41 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 5: your show? 42 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: Well, because it's pretty fucking fun. 43 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: Actually, I wanted to ask you so. I was listening 44 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: to a podcast the other day, The Verge, which we've 45 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: seen found out as a highly work podcast. But anyway, 46 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: they were talking about the Apple and how that is 47 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: basically now dead in the water. What can you tell 48 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: us about the Apple car? 49 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you it was never a thing. 50 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 5: Oh really, Here's here's how I say it. I said 51 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 5: it as they realized that they could provide software right, 52 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 5: which they do now with car Play, but also they're 53 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 5: going next generation the whole infotainment system, the dash cluster, 54 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 5: everything will be driven by your phone. We know only 55 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 5: Audi and Porsche working with them, right. I believe truly 56 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 5: that they got together some of the engineers car engineers 57 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 5: in the world into a team, and that team didn't 58 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 5: truly know what they were working on, and that's why 59 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 5: we got leaks. 60 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 4: Saying that they were working on a car, but actually. 61 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 5: What they were doing was working on how cars work, 62 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 5: how to OEM dams, how can they use the iPhone 63 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 5: to drive all of the digital displays in a car? 64 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 5: And that is I think was all always their goal. 65 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: I don't think they ever wanted to build. 66 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 5: A car, so I don't think they got any Remember 67 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 5: how Dice and We're going to. 68 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: Build a car. Yeah, yeah, like they. 69 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 4: Literally built a model and went, nah, this is not 70 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 4: for us. Apple never did that, no way in the world. 71 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it makes perfect sense when you think 72 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: about it that way, because they're going to earn way 73 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: more money selling software to these car companies, and they 74 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: will making a car incredibly complex. The other one I'm 75 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: interested in as well. Last episode we were talking about 76 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: by d Shark, what do you reckon if you have 77 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: a crystal ball next one to five years, EV sales 78 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: they're going to go up or are we going to 79 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: see plug in hybrids tacking EVS? 80 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. I've always believed in plugging hybrids is the best 81 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 5: gateway to the future. 82 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 4: So I think they've got. 83 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 5: More road to grow. 84 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 4: I reckon over that five year period. 85 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 5: It really depends what the car companies do with the 86 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 5: reality of pricing. Devices get more realistic. And we've talked 87 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 5: about on this show and I'll talk about for years, 88 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 5: the gap between the petrol choice and the electric choice 89 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 5: is too much, too much. If it's lower, it's obtainable 90 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 5: and desirable, But at the moment it's really we've really 91 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 5: reached the end of the early adopt the phase. So yeah, 92 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 5: I'd probably if I had to put my money on something, 93 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 5: i'd back plug in hybrid over over electric. Just in 94 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 5: terms of sales growth. They're still going to sell ship 95 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 5: tons of electric cars, but I think, you know, plug 96 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 5: in hybrids and hybrids generally will dominate the next five years. 97 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: Okay, and last question for me. They've just revealed the 98 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: Hyundai Ionic nine. I think that looks absolutely horrific. What 99 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: are your thoughts given that they are virtually the same 100 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: car under the skin. 101 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 5: It's amazing that the company you can have such broadly 102 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 5: different designs. Don't you think I forget forget for a moment, 103 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 5: You've already talked about it. I'm sure the fucking key 104 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 5: it hasn't. Hasn't that? 105 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: I was going to say it the key Tasman, you 106 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: loved it, right, I. 107 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 4: Just it doesn't make sense. O. You go to Hoyando 108 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 4: and you go, what are you? 109 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 5: What are you doing? 110 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: Oh? 111 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me at all. 112 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 5: But Paul, I've got a question for you. What the 113 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 5: fuck do you do this show? 114 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: You know what has happened now is Gordon has descended 115 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: to getting fake names to leave reviews on our on 116 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: our podcast, you got. 117 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 5: Like an Indian call center boxing to start doing downloads 118 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 5: for that. 119 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: Looks like you. 120 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: Got you let my ex wife out of there. Very good, well, Trevor, 121 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: thank you for answering your phone. Are you in bed 122 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: right now, Trevor, I'm in bed. 123 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: What sort of. 124 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: Pajamas are you wearing? 125 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 4: I don't wear pajamas. 126 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: You're naked. I always pissed it like trev with one 127 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: of those night hats carrying a candle and one of 128 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: those like. 129 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 5: The candle and the hat for sure. 130 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah that's Trevor. Well, thank you, Trevor. 131 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: You have a good before you go, Lucien, please don't 132 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: Jim for sure you church and shind if I you 133 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: church and Shindo. Don't mention Jimmy your gay shoulder and 134 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: the shade take you mate. 135 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 5: You've got a career. 136 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: Have I think the same thing about you? 137 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: So you Trev. 138 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: I love you, Trev. Goodbye, lovey bye. Okay you're ready 139 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: for a game? 140 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 5: Yeah? 141 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, Kya Kyundai, Kiya Kia or jag definitely 142 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: Kya Kya or Landrover Oh Kya Kyo or Lexus Lexus 143 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: Lexus or Toyota Lexus Lexus or Masda Lexus Lexus or 144 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: Masda Lexus, said Lexus, Masda Lexus or Mitsubishi Lexus Lexus 145 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: or Genesis Lexus Lexus or MGG what Yes, okay Lexus, 146 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: oh Lexus or BYD Lexus Lexus or. 147 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: Porsche h depends on the car Porsche, Porsche. 148 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: Porsche or Porsche or Lambeau Oh Porsche Porsche. 149 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,559 Speaker 2: Or Ferra Ferrari. 150 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: We landed on Ferrari Ferrari winning the game. Hey you 151 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: forward super Dudy. 152 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, big announcement from Ford so Ford Ranger super Dudy. 153 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: It is basically a car that exists to solve a 154 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: problem for a small group, but a big group, and 155 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: that big group is fleets, specifically fleets that do GVM 156 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: after market upgrades for vehicles they use on site, so mines, 157 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: emergency services, et cetera, instruction companies, all that. We actually 158 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: did a session with Ford and they ran us through 159 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: who they're targeting with this, and they used a good 160 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: example where they had like a guy that was doing 161 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: regional firefighting and what they would have to do with 162 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: some of their trucks, like the seventy series. They would 163 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: do a GVM upgrade and they would have a certain 164 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: capacity of water they could have on the tray to 165 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: then take to a fire scene. Well, they're limited by 166 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: the amount of water they can have because the payload 167 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: is limited on the vehicle even with the GVM upgrade. 168 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 2: So by giving a company like that a nimble vehicle 169 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: that you can drive on fire trails that isn't an 170 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: enormous truck because it'll get stuck. But with more GVM 171 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: from the factory means that you don't need to have 172 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: a mechanic that basically does GVM upgrades at your facility, 173 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: which avoids the warranty, and if it comes from the factory, 174 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: you've got a vehicle that sort of ticks all those 175 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: boxes and that's what Ford is able to do with 176 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 2: range of super duty. So we're talking about so we're 177 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: talking about four and a half ton GVM four and 178 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: a half ton towing capacity with a brake trailer. Those 179 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 2: two things are huge. They've also just revealed that it 180 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: will have eight studs on its hub, so that is 181 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: that's big because like a good looking blokes in the 182 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: tray eight polls. So basically it just means that the 183 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 2: hubs are engineered to take that extra load be big. 184 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: And Ford is talking about it existing. I gues see 185 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 2: it's sitting on the Ranger platform. It's probably going to 186 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 2: be wider, it's probably going to look a little different 187 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: to a current Ranger, given that you're gonna have to 188 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 2: do a huge amount of upgrades beneath the skin to 189 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 2: make this happen. So yeah, and it'll be expensive as well. 190 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: I reckon plus twenty grand on top of a standard Ranger. 191 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: I was going to ask about that, like where this 192 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: would said price Guide like mid tier but quite up there. 193 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: We'll think about it at the moment. If you go 194 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 2: buy seventy series and then you go to a GVM upgrade, 195 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: you're paying seventy or eighty grand for a seventy series 196 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: or one twenty if you want of the Dreamers that's 197 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 2: on car sales, and then you're paying probably fifteen grand 198 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: to do a GVM upgrade that is avoiding the warranty. 199 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: So basically, once it's done, you've got to restore it 200 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: to factory to sell it. So there's a lot of 201 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: work that goes on there. If you could just spend 202 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: twenty grand on top of ranger, so you've got factory warranty. 203 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,599 Speaker 1: That's an interesting point because as soon as you do 204 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: start stacking on the extra gear and whatnot, you're spending 205 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: a lot of money. And yeah, it does put the 206 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: warranty in some sort of disreput generally. 207 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it'll be cool. So it's coming out twenty 208 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: twenty six, they'll reveal it next year. Twenty twenty five 209 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: given out quickly. The Chinese are replicating cars. It wouldn't 210 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: surprise me if the Chinese basically launched a copy cat 211 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: of this and launched a four four did so. Yeah, 212 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 2: I'll see what happens. 213 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: Hey, the twenty twenty five LDV tear on at nine. 214 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: I've seen the EV sister brother of this. I've only 215 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: seen this in the Camo rap that it's got going on. 216 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: Would you believe the electric version is called the e 217 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: Tehon nine. 218 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't believe that. Actually I would believe that 219 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: because it's in the news story that I sent you. 220 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: Yep, but didn't read. So this is basically a replacement 221 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 2: for the T sixty the current year that they run. 222 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: But fascinatingly enough, it will be sold alongside the current 223 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: T sixty, which tells me that this is going to 224 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: be expensive, so they'll probably jack the price up a 225 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: little bit, so you can still buy the cheat one 226 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 2: if you want, but then you can also have this. 227 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: It looks pretty good in terms of the specs, so 228 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: basically it'll have a GVM between thirty three twenty and 229 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: thirty five hundred kilos, so it gives you a pretty 230 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 2: decent range there in terms of brake Towne capacity and payload. 231 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: It's also fairly big as well, five and a half 232 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 2: meters long just under two meters wide, so it will 233 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: be a whopper of a thing three point three meter 234 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: wheelbase as well, so be fairly big. And I think 235 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 2: that LDV has done a great job with the T 236 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: sixty in terms of the drive train, so I'm hoping 237 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: this feels just as good behind the wheel. 238 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: I think LDV has done great in general in the 239 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: last couple of years since launching. I think their utes 240 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: are very accessible. 241 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, so look, I think I think they're onto a 242 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: good thing with it. It'll just be the price. I'll 243 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: be curious to see where they land in terms of pricing, 244 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 2: because you don't want it to be super expensive, and 245 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: some of these brands really are starting to jack their 246 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: prices up. MG's looking to go more premium, and if 247 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 2: these guys do the same, it's going to make it 248 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: a little bit tricky to access some of this stuff. 249 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting what LDV came out with saying that 250 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: we want to make a un We want to make 251 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: the buyer walk into LDVS showrooms and basically have a 252 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: lot on offer, like different ranges and different price points 253 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: and that sort of stuff. 254 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: So, and LDV has been around for a while. It's 255 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: one of those Chinese brands that that's been here for 256 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: a while but doesn't have a huge range of cars. 257 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: Whereas you look at some of the new Chinese brands 258 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 2: have just arrived, they just have hundreds of models. You know, 259 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: it's not literally, but many models. So yeah, still keeping 260 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 2: you up, Olivia. 261 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: How on? Oh you know what I checked out the 262 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: other day, Yeah, Coopra, not Trevors. 263 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Taviascan, of the Tavascan. 264 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Tavascan, which sounds like some sort of terrible 265 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: scan you get done at a hospital. 266 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: I've got the Tavascan and it's all clear. 267 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: Than it's all good. Yours came back. I thought you 268 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: copped a dose. My tabascan came back with all sorts 269 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: of issues. Yes, oh, man, I tell. 270 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 5: You what I had. 271 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: That was a lump spotted. There was like some there 272 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: was some swelling going on my Taverascan. Just I've got 273 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: a follow up specialist appointment with my Taverascan. Well, fuck them. 274 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: They don't let me drive their cars. 275 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: I don't know why. 276 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. So the Tabascan I 277 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: did sit in it the other day and get to 278 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: drive it, which was a pity. What do you make 279 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: of the interior on this, because jesu, it's a real different, 280 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: standout sort of a car. I like the fact that 281 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: they're going balls are you know, I like a real 282 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: brave interior. 283 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think it's different. There's a lot of 284 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: angles and stuff. 285 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: There's that weird spine thing in the middle. It looks 286 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: like it's got like a snake skin on it. 287 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 2: We were looking at the same thing, but yes, yes, 288 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: we definitely are. Yeah. 289 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: No, look, I like it. 290 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: I think it's different and it just gives you something 291 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: that isn't just generic and boring in this segment, which 292 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: is often what you find. 293 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: Mmm, Corpra really bring in like a lot to the 294 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: table next year. Oh you know what, I'm actually genuinely 295 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: excited about. The Leon is going to have like a 296 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: sports tour version. 297 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 2: Yes, so it's like driven. It's quite good. 298 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: Oh is it so? From top of my head? Tell 299 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. 300 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: It's got the. 301 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: It's got the Goldfi engine in it, doesn't it. 302 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure exactly. I didn't read this. I 303 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: drove it before we knew what we were getting, right, 304 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: But we drive a plug in hybrid and I think 305 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: the version with the gold Fire engine as well. And 306 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: it's a fun car. Yeah, really cool. Good to see 307 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: wagons making a comeback finally. 308 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's kind of it's a small wagon, you 309 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's a little nimble wagon. 310 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: It's not outrage It's not like a SUPERB, which is 311 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: huge and not that good. It's it's sort of just 312 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: nicely sized. 313 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: Not that superb. Where should we go now? 314 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: Home? By the sounds of it, Gordy, you've worked with 315 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: Itamitsu before at their launch event, right, yeah, I have. 316 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: I've got to say I was really impressed. These guys 317 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: have been leaders in oil innovation for over a century. 318 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean they're the ones trusted by Toyota and Mazda 319 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: to deliver precision engineered oils straight from the factory, and 320 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: now they're bringing this same expertise directly to OSSI owners. 321 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: Like this is exciting times. 322 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: So what stood out to you the most? 323 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so they've got this nano tailored oil and this 324 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: stuff is next level. I mean they don't just make 325 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: the kind of who Hi everyday products. Every formula is 326 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: designed with a purpose. So we've got the IFG three. 327 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: This is perfect for city driving. This is where you're 328 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: in that sort of stop start traffic, the stuff that 329 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: really puts the stress on your engine. Then you've got 330 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: the IFG seven. Now this is a beast for high 331 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: performance vehicles. Seven layers of protection on this one, and 332 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,479 Speaker 1: it's got their nano cleansing tech that stops oil breakdowns 333 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: even in the harshest of conditions. And if you're driving 334 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: a Japanese car, the IFG five is built for precision 335 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: engineered engines, offering five layers of protection to keep your 336 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: engine clean and running smoothly. 337 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: Gee, that sounds like some serious attention to detail. 338 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: That's what I'm all about. I'm all about the detailed pavlo. 339 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: You know this about me. The IFG seven isn't just oil. 340 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: It's like giving your engine a custom built suit of armor. 341 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: And it doesn't just protect your engine too, it optimizes performance. 342 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: So if you're into keeping your car at its absolute best, 343 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: this is the oil that you want. 344 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: And now it's easy to get as well. 345 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's really easy. It's all online. Just search 346 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: out Itamitsu Australia. That's id E m it Su Australia. Oh, 347 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: you can write this one down au dot Iamitsu slash 348 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: Nano slash Tailored slashoil dot com and they will ship 349 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: this straight to your door, no fuss, just top tier 350 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: oil delivered wherever you are. 351 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: If it's good enough for manufacturers like Toyota and Mazda. 352 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: Then it sounds good enough for me. Gordon, thank you. 353 00:16:58,400 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. 354 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: Pavlo, Hey with it a Midso you're getting oil that's 355 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: designed to handle whatever you throw at it. They've been 356 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: trusted by the best part for over one hundred years 357 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: for a reason. 358 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: It Amitsu taking you beyond engine protection to real driving excitement. 359 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: Couldn't have said it better myself. 360 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 2: That was great. I'm always carrying this show. 361 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: I noticed you've been getting around looking a little bit 362 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: more fancier than usual. Ah see see yeah, you have 363 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: been practicing your Italian who wearing a buttoned up polo 364 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: shirt right to the tippity top. You've got your chinos on. 365 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: You're carrying around a tray of Lasagnia, which is weird. 366 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 2: Yes, So can I just quickly before I get into 367 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: more of this, just talk about Yoko Fritto, which is 368 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 2: this amazing just delicacy that I had when we were 369 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: in Italy? Is this a woman? 370 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: So so anyway? So yes, yes, it's. 371 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: Italian bread that's served with proscuto and depending on where 372 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: you are, some bellsamica as well. 373 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes oh okay, and good food chat from you. 374 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 2: So amazing. So if you are Italian. I need to 375 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: know where you can buy this in Australia. 376 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's really easy. So you go to the 377 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: supermarket if you get a thing of olive oil and 378 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: balsamic vinegar. Yeah, and get yourself a bloody bread stick. 379 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: Don't point out him. No, no, he's uncultured, that's what 380 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 2: he is. That's not that. So I need to anyone 381 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 2: Italian frito. Let me know where I can get it 382 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: in Australia, preferably Melbourne. 383 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: But what is it bread? 384 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: It's like a puff pastry with this protrudo on it 385 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 2: and it'd served with that Bellsamico. But anyway, did you say, Bosmico? 386 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 4: Yes? 387 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: Is that how you? 388 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: Oh you are all right there, mate? Come down? So 389 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: I lost my mum going to a cafe years I'll 390 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: have and she'll have a espresso and give us a 391 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: slice of carrot cake. Two thanks darling with you and 392 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: your Besmico. So yeah, I was in Italy. 393 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 2: We would doing a tour of the Ferrari factory and 394 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: just looking at the Fierano test track as well in 395 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: Furano and the factory is unreal. So we got to 396 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: do a tour of the sort of main factory in Marinello. 397 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: It's the only place they make Ferraris, with the exception 398 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: of one Ferrari that I'll tell you about very soon. 399 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, basically this factory, they have green space inside 400 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: so they cast their own engines. They basically assemble all 401 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: their own engines. So through the factory you'll see mixture 402 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: of V six, V eight and V twelve engines being assembled, 403 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: and they even have like sections with trees in the 404 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: middle where people just want green space to sort of 405 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 2: hang out. 406 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: Of course, do you have one of those car expert 407 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: a tree and yeah, I think you've just got a 408 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: couple of pop plants. During the Christmas party you do 409 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: to pup in one. 410 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, it was it was unreal, so really really 411 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: cool to see that. And also the Fiurano test track, 412 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 2: We've got to test the SF ninety and the two 413 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: nine six GTV on the track there. It was wet, 414 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 2: which wasn't great, but the test track itself is all 415 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: basically Enzo Ferrari's house was virtually in the center of 416 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 2: this and he wanted the test track built around it 417 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: so that he could see the cars being tested. And yeah, 418 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: up until recently they're actually testing Formula one cars there, 419 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: but they're not allowed to do that anymore at Fierano, 420 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 2: so it's just road cars. 421 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: The house still their house is still there and no 422 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: so no. 423 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: One's really allowed in there. But they've even got literally 424 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 2: housing adjacent to the track. And there's a section of 425 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: the track where there's a noise meter and you have 426 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: to let off the throttle at certain parts to not 427 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 2: trigger the noise meter. It's triggered a certain amount of 428 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: times in a day off to shut down. And there's 429 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: an apartment building, like a three or four story apartment 430 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 2: building literally on the track, so imagine having a room 431 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: there where you can just see all these cars driving around. 432 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: They even have this incredible fighter plane inside the test 433 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: track and it was donated to Ferrari by the Italian 434 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: government because they used the fighter jet to stage this 435 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: drag race with Formula one cars and basically the Formula 436 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: one car from Ferrari kept winning and they could not 437 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 2: get this fighter jet to beat it in this one 438 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: mile drag race. Wow, end up donating the fuselage, so. 439 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: This fighter Jets a piece of shit, just give it 440 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: to them. They probably had a bet like, hey, whoever 441 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: wins this lab against the fighter. 442 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 2: Jet it's so cool. So I really appreciated just seeing 443 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: that and being immersed in that because the Ferrari Factories 444 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: is unreal. It is just such an incredible place. But 445 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: the Ferrari that wasn't made in Italy is actually it's 446 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: called a Ferrari Testa Rossa and it is a small 447 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: electric Ferrari that is basically big enough for one adult, 448 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: and we used it in a drag race series that 449 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: is about to go live or has gone live on 450 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: our site. And in addition to that, we used a 451 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 2: stack of other cars from one of our investors, including 452 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: stuff like the Lamborghinichian't, the Cortage and a new one obviously, 453 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: the new one of McLaren's like center p one so 454 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: awesome series. Make sure you hit the Car Expert YouTube 455 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: channel to vomited in my mouth. Yeah, make sure you 456 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: hit to the Car Expert YouTube channel to check that 457 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: out and to have a look at the Ferrari Testa Rossa, Yeah, 458 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: which is a fun little thing. 459 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: Going back to that jet for a second, did you 460 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: ever see that documentary that was done about Pepsi and 461 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: it was called something like Pepsi Wears My Jet? That 462 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: was incredible. 463 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: Yep. That was a good one. 464 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, nearly got himself, well, he nearly got himself a 465 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: fucking large payout, and then he stupidly got principles and 466 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: then he didn't get a thing. Wait did he get anything? 467 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: I don't think. I think he got like some free 468 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: pepsi or something. I don't think actually got anything. 469 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: He got nothing. He got a documentary made. Yeah, pretty 470 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: much anyway. Um Oh, hey, Toyota land Cruise O Prato. Yes, interesting, interesting, Yes, 471 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: I think straight up this is a great looking car, 472 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: and if we could judge a book by its cover, 473 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: they would and they will sell a ton of these. 474 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 2: Yep. 475 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: But I think there's a little I think there's an 476 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: asterix next to this. 477 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so look I had a chance to extensively 478 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: drive the Altitude, which is one down from the top 479 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 2: spec in terms of the lineup. They started over seventy 480 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: grand now and that's the base, huge, huge money. They 481 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: finish it over one hundred grand. On the road. There's 482 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 2: only two five seat variants and only one variant, which 483 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 2: is the Altitude with a rear differential lock. Everything else 484 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 2: has a torson centertif and then traction control effectively and 485 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 2: then low range altitude is the other one with the 486 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 2: red diff lock. Now, it created a bit of a 487 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: stir online because I don't know how to etemuff this up. 488 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: But the cargo space is an absolute disaster. So they've 489 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 2: got the five seat version has to have space for 490 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: a forty eight mild hybrid battery and cooling system, and 491 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: to fit that in, they've basically reserved a space beneath 492 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: the cargo floor and it causes the cargo floor to 493 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: sit up by fifteen or twenty centimeters. That is if 494 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 2: you get five seats. If you get seven seats, it's 495 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 2: even worse because the seven seats sit on top of 496 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: the already raised cargo. 497 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: Oh does it? 498 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 2: And to create a flat floor, I haven't seen that 499 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: they've installed this box that is, I reckon, maybe thirty 500 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: centimeters tall. 501 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: So where does so the seats sit on top of 502 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: this box that's in the boot, the very. 503 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: Container for the forty eight Yeah yeah, yeah. So it 504 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: is an absolute disaster. And what Toyota has said is 505 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: that in previous generations of this car, you could take 506 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: out the third row and still have a usable boot. 507 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: Now they're not allowing you to do that because it 508 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: runs the risk of you exposing yourself to the forty 509 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: eight vault battery system, which is not twelve vaults. It 510 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 2: can be dangerous. It's high current, so I think that's 511 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 2: a really big miss. They've moved the spare tie from 512 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 2: the rear of the vehicle, which they used to do 513 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 2: with the altitude in the previous spect to underneath. 514 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: But I think that's actually a great move in terms 515 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: of design, Like it looks as it looks better, do 516 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 517 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: But design it is. But the problem with the car 518 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 2: is that it's heavier, and by moving the tire from 519 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 2: there to under you've gone from having one hundred and 520 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: fifty letters of boot of fuel capacity to one hundred 521 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 2: and ten liters, so you're reducing your range. The vehicle 522 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: heavier has a carryover engine that makes the vehicle now 523 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: slower even though it has more towing capacity. They've got 524 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: a slight issue as well with gvms. So if you 525 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 2: look at the GVM of the vehicle when it's fully 526 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: loaded with three and a half tons of trailer and 527 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: around three hundred and fifty kilo on your downball, you've 528 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: got under three hundred kilo worth a payload to play 529 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: with So that's two people in the front seat and 530 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 2: then maybe a kid or two and then a bag 531 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: and you're at GVM. It's before you add any accessories 532 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: or anything. So I think those are the negative things 533 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: that the positive things heaps. The space inside the infotainment 534 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: system is fantastic. It's a huge step forward and. 535 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,719 Speaker 1: It looks good, it feels premium. 536 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just wonder whether that stuff is going 537 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: to annoying people enough to cancel orders. I don't think 538 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 2: it will. I think people will buy them regardless. But yeah, 539 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 2: I did notice a lot of the other reviews have 540 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: glossed over a lot of this stuff because they were 541 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 2: basically testing it under curated conditions by Toyota, as we 542 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: had got to test it separately. 543 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think their core audience is going to 544 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: love this. We've said this previously, but I think this 545 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: is going to sell right across the board, from cashed 546 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: up young traders who love a bloody cruise down the 547 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: beaches of Perth to that sort of like real conservative 548 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: Toyota buyer at the older the way older end. The 549 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: bood thing is a bit of a concern. 550 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: You know what. 551 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: Else, I felt a bit funny in the tummy over 552 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: was the interior feels a bit Look, don't get me wrong, 553 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: the infotainment system great step up, but the interior in 554 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: it and I know Toyota have never been greater at this, 555 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: but it just feels a little bit. How's it going 556 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: For the price? It's like just all black. There's nothing 557 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 558 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: You could do with a bit of color. That's what 559 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: I thought, a little bit of a two tone or something. Yeah, 560 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 2: I also don't know that people are going to love 561 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 2: the ad blues setup. So it's a seventeen later add 562 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 2: blue tank that will get you're about eight thousand k's. 563 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 2: The issue that's added on to that is six month 564 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 2: service intervals, which is just seems quite excessive. Six months 565 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 2: instead of twelve twelve is pretty much the norm with everyone, 566 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 2: but Toyota demands six months for some reason. 567 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, Anyway, I think the boot's going to turn 568 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: people off. I think the price is going to turn 569 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: people off. But I don't think it's enough for Toyota 570 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: to be generally concerned about. 571 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 2: Now they'll sell a bucket load of them. We're going 572 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 2: to do some towing with one that we have in 573 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, so we'll do some more extensive testing. 574 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, look, I think it's good. I just think 575 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: there's some stuff there that Toyota really has missed, which 576 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: was disappointing. 577 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: Actually, you know what would be great in this Toyota 578 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: Prado would be our good friends in a misso oils 579 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: fantastic for Japanese car. 580 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: Not that one though, because that's for gasoline engine, so 581 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: I would probably put the diesel. 582 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: Running's go with this one right here there it is. 583 00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: You know what I think? Alright, this one's actually why 584 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: we saved the best to last. It's the five W 585 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: forty What an oil? 586 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: The numbers refer to the viscosity, Oh does it? And 587 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: that's the thickness of the oil. 588 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 5: Do you know what? 589 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: I went to a doctor once and he told me 590 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: I had very discuous. Doesn't matter, we should wear a 591 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: wrap it up. I reckon, she did sails tasty. How 592 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: you know what Toyota could have benefited with, especially with 593 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: their interior, is maybe looking at the Genesis Jesus, wow, 594 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: now that that is Prima. 595 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: That's like the salon. 596 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: Can you imagine? 597 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 6: I don't go in to your salon in Genesis GVS. 598 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 6: Sixty and passing that big boy in his Toyota Prado. 599 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 6: He works out, he works out. Look at those look 600 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 6: at those things. Oh, I like this, can picture myself. 601 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 6: I would be the hot dog in that bun extra mustard. 602 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 6: I want to be the hot dog your bar Afka 603 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 6: Jenesis son eighty percent of charge. I feel their fancy. 604 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: I see you. You should we go for some questions? Yes, 605 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: and just as a reminder while he's loading up the questions, 606 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: if you know where I can find some of that, 607 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: that would be great. 608 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: Hey, here we go. So questions from the peeps. Thoughts 609 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: on the return of Jack utes to Australia. How will 610 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: it compete here? What's the story with them? That is 611 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: a great question coming from Jerry's car. 612 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: Okay, So I think it's good because it will be 613 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: another cost effective option in the segment. 614 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: Bit of competitiveness. 615 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: We are taking a while though. So these have been 616 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: out at dealerships for quite some time now, and I'm 617 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: just wondering why they still haven't really fully launched them yet. 618 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: I mean, we haven't been given one to drive, and 619 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: they don't really want media driving them. So I'm just 620 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: curious to know what's happening. I think it looks good though, 621 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: does look good? Yeah? Cheap as well. I mean starts 622 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: off at just over forty grand for a dual cabut. 623 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: I think that's pretty impressive. That's decent. 624 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, this question comes from Neil Dahl. Hello Neil Dahl, 625 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: you sound like an author. 626 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 3: Why aren't Auto Hit Lunch made mandatory to be on 627 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 3: by default? Dickage with dear Ril Jon Wenkush, thanks for 628 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: the question. 629 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, I tell you. 630 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: Who else is a wine cut? If you go to 631 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: the drive in movies. 632 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: Oh I thought you were saying about Trevor. Yeah, if 633 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: you go to the drive in movies, and I'm like, 634 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: the drive in movies? Is this the fucking nineteen forties? 635 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: But genuinely, if you go to the drive in movies, 636 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: when do they have drive in movies that in July 637 00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: I still have them. 638 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: Yes, driving movies are still the thing. And there are 639 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: actually times if you're the lights just keep dipping in here. 640 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: It's like ghosts of radio post passed. 641 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot here. Oh my god, it's Jonathan Coleman, 642 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: the ghost of Allan Jones. Oh my god, he's touching me. 643 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: Leave him alone. 644 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, leave me alone, Allen. I can't help my shelf. 645 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: He's got a tasty one. Jessie sixty. 646 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: So if you're like parked across the road from someone 647 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 2: you found on Instagram or something and you want to 648 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: just sit there at nighttime with your car, you've got 649 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: to be able to switch the lights off. You don't 650 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: want to look like a creep. It was like two 651 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: in the morning or something. Well, he storky. I was 652 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: just driving and I just wanted to stop. 653 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: Producer Live. She is a dirty bird. 654 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: KFC. Yes, I agree they shouldn't with a greasy box. 655 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: I agree that you should be able to have them 656 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: on automatically, but you want to be able to switch 657 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: them off if you need to. 658 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: Last question before we sail this thing home. It's a 659 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: great question. It's my favorite that we've received in months. 660 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: What's your favorite carlube? Oh, well, I can tell you mine. 661 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: It's in a MIDSU lubricants. 662 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 4: Man. 663 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: I like these so much. I haven't might have mine 664 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: for dinner. 665 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: Bit of five W forty bit. 666 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: Of five W forty bit of the old school o 667 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: W twenty. 668 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 2: Well zero as well. It also works anyway. 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