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Speaker 1: Job mission with Jones and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Well, I once revealed to you, Jonesy, that I'd had

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Speaker 2: a dream about our next guest.

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Speaker 1: A friendship.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't a saucy dream, it was a friendship dream.

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Speaker 2: Well now I feel even closer more personal with this

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Speaker 2: man because he's got his first book out called Last

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Speaker 2: Shot Jocks on Frilloh, hello.

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Speaker 1: Here he is morning, are well very well?

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Speaker 2: It says here a coming of age memoir of addiction,

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Speaker 2: ambition and redemption. And people that watch you every week

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Speaker 2: on Master Chef and see that lovely smiley face may

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Speaker 2: not know the tough road that you've that you've lived.

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Speaker 1: Can never judge a book by it his color. Eh,

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Speaker 1: that's true, it is look at it. I think I

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Speaker 1: got asked a few times to write a book over

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Speaker 1: the years, and I think that's as a result of,

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Speaker 1: you know, people so ask you questions that have grown

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Speaker 1: up and obviously not been from Australia. People are always

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Speaker 1: sort of interested in Skoland, Glasgow growing up and everyone's

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Speaker 1: perception of that being super rough. And you had all

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Speaker 1: these little bits of my life in newspapers on articles

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Speaker 1: and none of it was really in context. So with

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Speaker 1: Master Chefs, of you know, now, a couple of years

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Speaker 1: in and more and more articles being written, I thought

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Speaker 1: there's a good time to put it all in a book.

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Speaker 1: So I would have even known that you were a

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Speaker 1: drug addict. There you go. Yeah, it's not my not

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Speaker 1: my practice, Jo, You know, it's something that it's something

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people my generation in Glasgow, Edinburgh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was it was the way it was.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of there was a lot of

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Speaker 1: drugs openly in schools and growing up back then, so

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Speaker 1: it was pretty hard to avoid it.

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Speaker 2: Did you find when writing the book you looked at

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Speaker 2: a number of junctions that were the sliding doors? I mean,

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Speaker 2: here you are now and a sliding door could have

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Speaker 2: taken you in a completely different direction. And I bet

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Speaker 2: you've lost friends along the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. I think my entire life has been a

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Speaker 1: collection of really bad decisions along the way, and you

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Speaker 1: could call them sliding doors, I guess. But you know,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you just got to

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Speaker 1: you've got to do your best at the time that

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Speaker 1: you can't and you know, I think I was so

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Speaker 1: lucky to found a career and food that kept me,

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Speaker 1: you know, on the right side of the tracks, so

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Speaker 1: to speak, just enough where you know, obviously I lived

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Speaker 1: a life of adventure so far, you know, but at

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Speaker 1: the same time I've managed to hold down a career

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Speaker 1: and and be where I am today, and you know,

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Speaker 1: hopefully I'm only halfway through my life with.

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Speaker 2: You worked with people like Marcopier White and Gordon Ramsay,

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Speaker 2: who to to outside has looked terrifying. It's a very

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Speaker 2: stressful environment in those kitchens. Is is stress and terror

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Speaker 2: inevitable in this industry?

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Speaker 1: Not so much these days, thankfully, I think in the

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Speaker 1: in in the days where I grew up in kitchens, definitely,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's I think, you know, Mark or Gold

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Speaker 1: And everyone's always said that the way their kitchens will

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Speaker 1: run back then would be legal today and is certainly

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Speaker 1: certainly true. And I'm glad to say kitchens I really

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Speaker 1: like that anymore today. Certainly there's a lot of there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of stress in a kitchen. You know, you

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Speaker 1: have two services a day, lunch and dinner, and you

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Speaker 1: have to get ready for it. There's a a sort

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Speaker 1: of coming together, have a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 1: work in meson plass and prep to get to this

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Speaker 1: point that is in itself very high pressure, and then

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Speaker 1: when it ends, when service ends, everyone goes home and

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Speaker 1: the lights get turned out and ineverybody. As a young

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Speaker 1: chef or our front of house worker, you kind of

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Speaker 1: you're on your own. You're on a pushbike or a trama,

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Speaker 1: a bus on the way home, your rife home late

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Speaker 1: at night, everyone's in bed already and you're on your own.

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Speaker 1: So I think there's this sort of you know, extreme

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Speaker 1: highs and extreme lows, if you like in our industry,

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Speaker 1: if you're if you're in restaurant business, that can be tough.

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Speaker 1: And you've got Jimmy Barnes to right the forward.

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Speaker 2: How cool is that?

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Speaker 1: He's a good really he's a really great made of mind.

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Speaker 1: And I think everyone sees Jimmy, you know, like the

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Speaker 1: outside we'll see Jimmy as a sort of rocker, hardcore guy,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think I met Jimmy

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Speaker 1: a little bit after his hardcore rocker days, and you know,

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Speaker 1: we became maced straight away, and you know, there's an

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Speaker 1: understanding of what it was like to grow up in

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Speaker 1: Scotland that we had different sort of journeys. But we're

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Speaker 1: at stage now we're pretty similar. We're both homebodies. We

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Speaker 1: both choose to pour her around the house cooking all day.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're a nice table setting and giving love

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Speaker 1: to our family by cooking for him and you know,

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Speaker 1: stuck in the fire, getting the music right, all that

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Speaker 1: sort of stuff. So, you know, I think it's funny

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Speaker 1: we became we became really close mates really quickly, and

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Speaker 1: it's just stuck. I can't do florist arrangements like he can.

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Speaker 1: He is a gun.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's just written, are we going to see you

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Speaker 2: doing some singing next?

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Speaker 1: If you can't see me doings? Simming? He collared me

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Speaker 1: and you know how he's been doing that lot singing thing.

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Speaker 1: He be singing Caledonia, which is a song that I

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Speaker 1: sing to my kids at bedtime, always have done. And

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Speaker 1: it's on has, it's on his feed. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people well Amanda's cook, plenty of forum for Amanda's more.

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Speaker 1: Friendship dreams just friendship.

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Speaker 2: Friendship dream is nothing weird, unusual, saucy.

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Speaker 1: So I don't get any ideas. Okay, okay, Jock, it's

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Speaker 1: so great to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations on the book.

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Speaker 1: It's it's out now. It's called Last Shot. It's in

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Speaker 1: all good bookstores today.

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Speaker 2: Jock song Fellow, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Nice to talk to your job.

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Speaker 1: Jones and Amanda's