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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life

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<v Speaker 1>and Cut. I'm Brittany and I'm Laura. Laura, What a

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<v Speaker 1>time to be a live It was Easter last week.

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<v Speaker 1>We ate our body weight and chocolate.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't do anything for East. I am a terrible mother,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm also taking solace in the fact that Molly

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<v Speaker 2>is not even one yet. She will not remember this.

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<v Speaker 2>We are pretending like twenty twenty never happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, twenty twenty didn't happen. Also, I think it's totally

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<v Speaker 1>okay to not give Marley May chocolate because she's one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's fair. We don't need to encourage this,

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<v Speaker 1>not yet.

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<v Speaker 2>So we didn't do anything for Easter. It was actually

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<v Speaker 2>just felt like another day. We went for a walk

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<v Speaker 2>that we got our one hour of exercise. Ain't nothing

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<v Speaker 2>going to stop us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's groundhog Day, isn't it. I don't know what day

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<v Speaker 1>it is, I don't know what week it is. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know what time it is. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>have a clock. I don't look because I gotta where

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Who are you? What are you doing? Whore?

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<v Speaker 3>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>Every week I have been saying that we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get some at home recording studio equipment so that we

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<v Speaker 2>can bring you this podcast from the safety of our bedroom.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have finally done it. We are recording this remotely,

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<v Speaker 2>so if the sound quality is weird at all, please

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<v Speaker 2>forgive us. We never know what we're doing even when

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing it in a studio, let alone trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do it from home, and we have no help. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>currently sitting on my bed, which is where the magic happens.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the magic, I mean this is where I sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm also on my bed where the magic doesn't happen,

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<v Speaker 1>but where one day it will.

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<v Speaker 2>Also I feel like I'm sixteen again, like I'm calling

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<v Speaker 2>my girlfriend and being like, hey, babe, except actually this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to go out to thousands of people, right And.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just say we pimped out our equipment. We

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<v Speaker 1>got the best well, I don't know if it's the

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<v Speaker 1>best way. We got pretty best stuff that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to use. It has so many colorful, shiny

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<v Speaker 1>buttons that we will figure out, but for now, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to stick to the basics. And I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my favorite question right now, what chipping up to?

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<v Speaker 2>I have something for today's question of what have I

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<v Speaker 2>been up to? This is also a really really highly

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<v Speaker 2>recommended recommendation.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny that your alliteration is on point.

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<v Speaker 2>When Matt was living in the UK, he became really

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<v Speaker 2>good friends with a guy named Fergus. And Fergus is.

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<v Speaker 1>His name really Fergus? Yeah, it's Fergus. Great, great name, Fergus,

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<v Speaker 1>love that beer.

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<v Speaker 2>Fergus is a magician and not just like a daggy

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<v Speaker 2>like can do a little card trick magician. He performs

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<v Speaker 2>at Edinburgh Fringe Festival. So he had all these massive

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<v Speaker 2>gigs lined up and then obviously Corona hit and everyone

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<v Speaker 2>lost all of their especially people who work in like

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<v Speaker 2>the arts industry, and especially magicians.

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<v Speaker 1>All of them. They're all out of work guys, because

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<v Speaker 1>no one wants to actually touch your deck of cards.

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<v Speaker 1>Let someone think of the magician.

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<v Speaker 2>So what he's doing is fantastic. He's doing these personalized

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<v Speaker 2>zoom magic shows. The other night we signed out, he

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<v Speaker 2>popped up in our lund room. I was swilling my

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<v Speaker 2>little ward having a panot, of course you were, and

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<v Speaker 2>he did a full magic show and it was I

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<v Speaker 2>tell you, like I would have said to you, that

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<v Speaker 2>magic is super daggy, but it was so fantastic. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like one of the best nights so that we

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<v Speaker 2>have had. Like what sort of things was he doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Like card tricks still and you would just like virtually

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<v Speaker 2>pick them? Yeah, virtual card tricks, like illusion tricks.

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<v Speaker 1>How does he take you? Watch your fearist. I crack

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<v Speaker 1>myself up sometimes I'm like, where are my pants for?

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<v Speaker 2>This is awkward? No, but it was actually I was

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<v Speaker 2>so impressed. I loved it so much. And so, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>if you are thinking of something to do on a

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday night, or maybe you want to catch up with

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<v Speaker 2>your family, but you want to do something that's not

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<v Speaker 2>just sitting there going can you hear me over zoom?

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<v Speaker 2>What you can do is you can jump onto Fergus magician.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna check that because I'm not sure if it's correct. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it was definitely not correct. It's magic Fergus. You can

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<v Speaker 2>jump onto Magic Fergus. Love that, jump onto his Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>page and book yourself a live magic show. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is not just because it's Matt's friend. I was blown away.

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<v Speaker 2>So's hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he says cute. It would be you were just

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<v Speaker 1>paying out his name before Britt, But That's why I reckon,

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<v Speaker 1>he's hot. I reckon, You've many people can pull off fergus.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon, you've been in isolation so long, sexy, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>take anything right now, guilty. Well, what's been happening in

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<v Speaker 2>your Well, great recommendation for you, I mean great recommendation

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<v Speaker 2>from you. I tried something new last week was cooking,

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<v Speaker 2>made the noki three ingredients killed it. This week I

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<v Speaker 2>did my first TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're getting damn with the kiddies. It was so hot.

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<v Speaker 1>It took me like three hours to even learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to do a TikTok. I don't know what the kids

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<v Speaker 1>are doing these days. Anyway, I can I just jump in.

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<v Speaker 2>If it took you three hours to record a TikTok video,

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<v Speaker 2>then I'm gonna just guess that me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're too old for TikTok. Oh Oh, without doubt, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not even a question. But I really wanted to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>My my instagram is filled with that flipper switch, A

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<v Speaker 1>flipper switch. You did it, You guys did it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do it. Didn't have a boyfriend, so

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<v Speaker 1>I just made it up and I put some clothes

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<v Speaker 1>on a hangar, I thought it would be funny, and

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<v Speaker 1>it took me three hours, but that was just the

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<v Speaker 1>sign up. The actual TikTok dancing took me like twenty seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I just felt like I really accomplished something

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<v Speaker 1>this week, and I feel like I'm in with the

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<v Speaker 1>cool kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, truly living your ISO dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, speaking of ISO dreams or just dreams

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<v Speaker 1>in general, I have big news. Channing Tatum back on

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<v Speaker 1>the market. This post that Britt is talking about. This

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok post.

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<v Speaker 2>She posted it on Life Uncuts Instagram, so if you

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<v Speaker 2>go to at Life Uncut podcast you'll see this silly

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok dance she did.

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<v Speaker 1>She also sorry silly. She also tagged Channing Tatum because

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<v Speaker 1>she's trying to thirst trap him from isolation. Desperate times, Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Desperate Times. I also thought it was funny because Channing

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<v Speaker 1>Tatum has been the theme for me throughout the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>since we started, and any of you og listeners know

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<v Speaker 1>that I have a little crush on him, so I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it would be funny to tag him in the

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<v Speaker 1>hopes that in the twenty five million tags he gets,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he'll see it. It is on my Instagram guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Brittany Underscore hockey if you need. But it's also on

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<v Speaker 1>Life on Cut, so you can go and check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely not a first trap. It's not sexy, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting. Look, do you know what I want to say?

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<v Speaker 1>Though I'm usually so quick to hate on social media,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think that there's a lot of shit that

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<v Speaker 1>comes out of like, for choice of better word, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of shit that's on social media. But I

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<v Speaker 1>really feel like during this time of isolation, it has

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<v Speaker 1>forced people to be a hell of a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>creative and a hell of a lot more fun with

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<v Speaker 1>their content. And I know, like I put something up

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<v Speaker 1>just recently and I was saying that Gwyneth Paltrow had

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<v Speaker 1>come out saying that you should use this time in

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<v Speaker 1>isolation to find a new hobby or learn a new language,

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<v Speaker 1>or be superproductive. And there is that conversation going on

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram at the moment, But there is also the

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<v Speaker 1>antithesis of that and the total flip side of that,

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<v Speaker 1>which is people saying, you know what, it's actually totally

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<v Speaker 1>okay if you don't achieve anything during this pandemic and

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<v Speaker 1>you just actually survive and get through so I think

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of have to pick the type of social

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<v Speaker 1>media that is best attuned to how you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>live your ISO life. But I love that there seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be less narcissism on there at the moment. There

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be less thirst trapping. There seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>less posing with a product. There seems to be less

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<v Speaker 1>just posing in general. And I really feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>ethos at the moment has shifted a little bit and

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<v Speaker 1>the content is fun and funny and relatable. So I

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<v Speaker 1>am loving Instagram right now. It's definitely a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>amusing as soon as I open my Instagram up, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not actually believing or not. I'm not usually a

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<v Speaker 1>swiper on Instagram. I use it for my I have

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<v Speaker 1>certain people that I will literally type into look, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not someone that spends hours and gets deep in there. Mate.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at my screen time the other day and

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<v Speaker 2>I had spent nine hours, nine hours, twenty four hours

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram, not Instagram, just on my screen, Lura, hours

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<v Speaker 2>on a screen?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing or the child? How did I

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<v Speaker 1>do that? Your porn Hub must be through the roof.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to cancel that subscription.

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<v Speaker 2>We've spoken about that were Honestly, we've got to cut

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<v Speaker 2>corners and save money somewhere, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. I'm still getting the meritith Scoach cheese,

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<v Speaker 1>but the pornhub has to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I was like, this can't be correct, This actually

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<v Speaker 2>can't be right.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be great. I love that for me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even want to know. I don't even want to look.

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<v Speaker 1>But besides that, I'm not gonna lie. I haven't done

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<v Speaker 1>a lot this week. That's totally relatable. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to speak to the masses. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I do? You know what I did do I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you're proud of me. I cleared our inbox for Instagram Again, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we perpetually have one hundred messages at all times, and

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<v Speaker 1>I set myself a challenge to clear it to zero

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<v Speaker 1>and I did it, and I'm sure when I look

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<v Speaker 1>in an hour, it's going to be back to one hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>But also just on what we have achieved this week,

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<v Speaker 2>and I really want to point you, guys in the

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<v Speaker 2>direction of about Facebook page, which is Life Uncut podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>We have well and truly got the Facebook page up

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<v Speaker 2>and running. Now we are doing everything we can to

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<v Speaker 2>build that little community online. But we have this great

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<v Speaker 2>intention for the Facebook page to really be a place

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<v Speaker 2>where just say you haven't asked on clut question that

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<v Speaker 2>you feel confident and okay with sharing with other people

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can post that question to the Facebook group.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some.

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<v Speaker 2>Really clever, sassy, intelligence switched on amazing women and men

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<v Speaker 2>in that group.

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<v Speaker 1>Apart from me, you guys are all on there as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Who can answer your questions. And if we can't get

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<v Speaker 2>to your question in ask Uncut, then there is a

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<v Speaker 2>wealth of a community out there who can help to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of give you advice. It's also just a great

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<v Speaker 2>place if you guys want to get on there and

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<v Speaker 2>share your crappy dating stories, the worst thing guys ever

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<v Speaker 2>said to you during sex, you've got any good like

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<v Speaker 2>dating and isolation stories like the episode we last talked about,

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<v Speaker 2>get on there and share them as well, guys, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's there for some good support, but it's also just

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<v Speaker 2>there for a good laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some rules, and the rules are that there

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<v Speaker 1>is no judgment. Judgment free. You can speak about anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you're giving advice to other people, we just

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<v Speaker 1>we want you to give your honest feedback, but just

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<v Speaker 1>always maintain a level of respect. If you don't, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be booting yours out. I have something else

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say. Last week, we sort of put

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<v Speaker 1>some feelers out and ask you guys to tell us

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<v Speaker 1>some cute dating stories because we did a segment on

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<v Speaker 1>online dating and how dating has changed in ISO. We

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<v Speaker 1>got some really cute responses, but there was one that

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<v Speaker 1>just like gave me goose bumps. I sent it to Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>gave her goose bumps, all the feels. And there was

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<v Speaker 1>this girl rode in and she sent us the video

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<v Speaker 1>in and it was her birthday. So she jumped on

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<v Speaker 1>these like huge house party zoom call type thing and

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<v Speaker 1>there were like twenty people maybe all in their little boxes,

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<v Speaker 1>and she would just chain away and everyone's like happy birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah blah. And then on zoom her

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend proposed to her. The cutest thing ever. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so cute because she had no idea and it was

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<v Speaker 1>all caught in front of all of their friends because

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<v Speaker 1>he had plans to do it, and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm not gonna let Io stop me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to try and find that video again,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll post it on a page because I think

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<v Speaker 1>good things are coming from ISO.

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<v Speaker 2>We also said in that episode the BRIT's referring to

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<v Speaker 2>if you guys have been doing any cute social distancing dates,

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<v Speaker 2>then send us your date ideas. And one person had

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<v Speaker 2>actually written in and they said that they had met

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<v Speaker 2>a guy on Hinge and one of their first dates

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<v Speaker 2>that they had, which was Zoom, they decided that they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to have a bottle of wine and they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to draw each other and draw each other's portraits.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you guys do that on The Bachelor? Yeah, we did,

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<v Speaker 1>but which is also why I loved it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's such a cute date. I think it's so cute.

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<v Speaker 2>It's such a nice way of breaking the ice with someone.

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<v Speaker 2>They said by the end of it, they were just

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<v Speaker 2>pissing themselves laughing, which you would like. I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 2>neither of them were Picasso, but but it was just

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<v Speaker 2>a nice way for them to meet each other properly

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<v Speaker 2>and do it in a way that also makes it

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<v Speaker 2>not quite so stifled and awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's I think that's brilliant. I love hearing

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<v Speaker 1>that those ideas. We had another girl writing and just

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<v Speaker 1>say they've been doing trivia with her partner long distance.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's really fun too, because it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>lighthearted and it's it's easy and it's engaging. And so

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<v Speaker 1>they were two really cute ideas that came in this week.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm chuffed with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But guys, if you have any more ideas, then you

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<v Speaker 2>can send them on to us or get on the

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<v Speaker 2>bloody Facebook page and rite them up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, guys, it is time for Accidentally Unfiltered.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, this is just where we share all of your

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<v Speaker 2>most embarrassing stories anonymously of course, that you have written

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<v Speaker 2>into us.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you picked one, I picked one. Have you got

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<v Speaker 1>one I've got I've got a really sweet, very g

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<v Speaker 1>rated one. This week, after all the sex and all

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<v Speaker 1>the first trapping, I was like, okay, it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>just something that's a little bit nana friendly. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll keep mine unnana friendly. Okay, perfect, We'll just kick

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<v Speaker 1>this off. My partner and I were quite kinky in

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<v Speaker 1>the bedroom now, I'm talking vibrators, butt plugs, strap on

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<v Speaker 1>the works. We were coming to the time where we

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<v Speaker 1>were due to vacate our rental property and we had

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<v Speaker 1>to agree for an open inspection time with our landlord. Initially,

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<v Speaker 1>we agreed on a date and a time, but due

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<v Speaker 1>to work commitments, I had to reschedule, so I emailed

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<v Speaker 1>the real estate to reschedule a new time. Unfortunately, the

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<v Speaker 1>real estate did not check her emailing time and she

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<v Speaker 1>proceeded with the original open inspection time. Everything that we

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<v Speaker 1>used in the bedroom was on display. I'm talking the

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<v Speaker 1>butt plugged, the lubricant that was in the bathroom. We

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<v Speaker 1>had vibrators on the bed, we had dirty undies, you

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<v Speaker 1>name it. It was there. Now, what makes this scenario

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<v Speaker 1>even worse is that I worked for a really well

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<v Speaker 1>known company and one of my work uniforms with my

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<v Speaker 1>name tag was on display and everyone would have seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day, I received a very apologetic email from

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<v Speaker 1>the real estate that asked if I could possibly have

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<v Speaker 1>another open inspection with my unit slightly tidied up.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want a house is like devalued because someone's

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<v Speaker 2>been murdered in it. I feel like this is similar,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm sorry, Can I get a rent deduction or

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<v Speaker 2>a price deduction on this because there's a butt plug

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<v Speaker 2>on the bed.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there'd be some people that are like,

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<v Speaker 1>I will pay extra to keep the butt plug.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't wash it, it's fine, just wash your hands. We've

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<v Speaker 2>had so many of these where it's been like a

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<v Speaker 2>vibrator accidentally left out.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's never been the whole kink collateral. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>all of the above. All right, give me your okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I have one.

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<v Speaker 2>So so this one, in comparison, is very g rated.

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<v Speaker 2>But I actually love this, and when I read it,

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<v Speaker 2>I laughed out loud. So my dad and I were

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<v Speaker 2>swimming in the public pool doing laps. We were doing

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<v Speaker 2>the lengths when I spotted him taking a breather at

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<v Speaker 2>the edge of the pool. So I swam up behind him,

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<v Speaker 2>put both my hands on his bald head, and dunked

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<v Speaker 2>him under the water.

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<v Speaker 1>I was holding him there, ignoring his flailing arms, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I saw my dad actually swim past me. Ha ha,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my God, passed me the panelole. Now ha panelole.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my new addition. Everybody aboard the Lolla coaster. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that is so funny. Could you imagine? I read this

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<v Speaker 1>and I lost it. And I was walking with Matt

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and then I read it to him

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<v Speaker 1>and he also started crying, so I was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a good one. It's actually so funny. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>when you're a little kid and you in the supermarket

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<v Speaker 1>and you go up and hunk your parents, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know that moment you look up and it's not your parents'

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<v Speaker 1>lengths and you're like, oh my god, my light flashed

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<v Speaker 1>before my eyes, like who is this stranger? I had

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<v Speaker 1>do that to me actually, not so long ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I was we were at the checkout in Woolies and

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<v Speaker 2>this little boy just held my hand and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is weird, but okay, he just held my hand

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<v Speaker 2>and then he looked up and you could just see

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<v Speaker 2>the pure fear in his face.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Palette's okay, I'm sorry. I feel awkward

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<v Speaker 1>as well when you're right in these when you send

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<v Speaker 1>them in to us yet, either on the Facebook page

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<v Speaker 1>now or at Life on Cut podcast, when you do

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<v Speaker 1>send them in, they don't always have to be like

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<v Speaker 1>really dirty or sin saalacious. I mean, we love those ones,

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<v Speaker 1>but they can just be super innocent and cute too,

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<v Speaker 1>because we do thrive on those also. All right, keep

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<v Speaker 1>those ones coming in, but for now, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>time to jump into the episode. So, guys, we do

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<v Speaker 1>have a different kind of episode for you today. And

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<v Speaker 1>you may remember about two months ago, we actually couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get an episode to you one week and we had

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<v Speaker 1>to take a break, and we we did sort of

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that life happened. Sometimes life happens, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those weeks. You guys were so understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>which was amazing, and we felt really bad that we

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't deliver you an episode, but we did have a

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<v Speaker 1>very very good reason, and I'm going to pass it

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<v Speaker 1>over to Laura today to talk about that reason, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you guys really get something out of this.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just want to start by saying I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>really proud to put out this episode with you today, Laura.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's episode is a bit of a different one, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's something that is very very personal for myself and

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<v Speaker 2>it's something that touches a lot of women, and that

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<v Speaker 2>topic is miscarriage. I have spoken pretty openly in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>and for anybody who has followed my pregnancy journey with Marley,

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<v Speaker 2>then you might already know that Matt Night, we did

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<v Speaker 2>have a miscarriage before we actually had Marley and I've

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<v Speaker 2>spoken about it because I really do feel that there's

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<v Speaker 2>still this stigma that's surrounding miscarriage. And I remember when

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<v Speaker 2>I first had a miscarriage how I felt just so

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly alone. I didn't feel that there was a community

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<v Speaker 2>of people who I could go to. I felt a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of guilt, and I felt like there must be

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<v Speaker 2>something wrong with me. And the reason why this has

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<v Speaker 2>come up again, and this topic has been something that

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<v Speaker 2>we wanted to have in our channels and share with

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, is because more recently, just two months ago,

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<v Speaker 2>Matt and I went through our second miscarriage. And that

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<v Speaker 2>still feels raw and very very bizarre to even guess

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<v Speaker 2>say out loud, because it's not something that I have

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<v Speaker 2>really spoken about. It's not something that I've talked to

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<v Speaker 2>many people about. But I feel very, very passionately that

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<v Speaker 2>miscarriage is a conversation that needs to be had in

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<v Speaker 2>an open forum. I just really want to put it

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<v Speaker 2>out there before we get into this episode that this

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<v Speaker 2>conversation is not at all for sympathy. It's not for attention,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know that you know that, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>really really believe that it's an inextricable part of some

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<v Speaker 2>people's pregnancy journey, and it is painful and it is lonely,

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<v Speaker 2>but it doesn't need to be quite so lonely. And

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<v Speaker 2>the more that we talk about it, and the more

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<v Speaker 2>that we destigmatize it, then I feel that other women

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<v Speaker 2>who are going through the same thing may feel more supported.

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<v Speaker 2>The lack of conversation around this topic is really what

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<v Speaker 2>creates this oppressive silence, and that silence really adds to

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<v Speaker 2>the feeling of what's wrong with me. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>what we're talking about today, and I think this episode

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<v Speaker 2>does need to come with a bit of a trigger warning,

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<v Speaker 2>going to go into some depths about it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that maybe if you're pregnant, or if this is

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<v Speaker 2>too close to home for some people, then then maybe

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't the episode for you, and maybe you'll come

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<v Speaker 2>back to it another time. That's totally fine. Although my

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<v Speaker 2>first thought was that, you know, it may not be

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<v Speaker 2>relevant to women who don't want to have babies or

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<v Speaker 2>two men, I then realized, actually, it's really relevant to everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>because even if you are never in a position where

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<v Speaker 2>you experience a miscarriage yourself, you may be in the

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<v Speaker 2>position where someone you love goes through a miscarriage. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's a sister, maybe it's a best friend. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's also really important to be equipped to

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<v Speaker 2>how to respond to someone when they tell you that

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<v Speaker 2>they are experienced in miscarriage, because I think that there

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<v Speaker 2>can often be unhelpful conversation that happens from very well

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<v Speaker 2>meaning to people when they give their love or their

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<v Speaker 2>advice or their feedback when you tell them that you've

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<v Speaker 2>had a miscarriage. So we're going to get into that

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<v Speaker 2>as well later in the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>It is really a really tricky conversation to have. And Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so grateful that you have decided to share this

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<v Speaker 1>because I do think it will help a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>and like you said, it will help people even like

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<v Speaker 1>myself who haven't experienced it, but you, my friend, went

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<v Speaker 1>through it. And the fact that I can ask you

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<v Speaker 1>now a few months on the track, how should I

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<v Speaker 1>have responded? Did I respond? Okay? Is that the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing you would want to hear from a friend?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think that these are things that could help

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people going forward. So I guess we

0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:14.320
<v Speaker 1>should start at the start. You that's always a good

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<v Speaker 1>place to start. Yeah, you you before Miley May, your

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<v Speaker 1>first miscarriage. I guess, what were the feelings like then,

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<v Speaker 1>and how can you compare them to what you felt

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<v Speaker 1>the second time around?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so I guess with when I'll kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like tell the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's like for anyone who doesn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So when Matt and I first found out that I

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<v Speaker 2>was pregnant, we weren't trying. It was a surprise. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a very very happy surprise. But I found out

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.679
<v Speaker 2>I was pregnant. We were both so excited, and we

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<v Speaker 2>were booked in for our scans and our dating scans,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'd had those and then I'm miscarried at around

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<v Speaker 2>the nine week mark. And the thing that I really

0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 2>struggled with in that pregnancy was the fact that I

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:10.440
<v Speaker 2>almost felt like I wasn't allowed to be so upset

0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:13.480
<v Speaker 2>because it wasn't planned. Felt like it was unreasonable for

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<v Speaker 2>me to feel that much pain about something and that

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<v Speaker 2>much loss that I hadn't planned, and so I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really think that my friends would understand, and so I

0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:24.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't tell a lot of people about it. I also

0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:30.000
<v Speaker 2>felt incredibly alone. I didn't know anybody who had a miscarriage.

0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:33.400
<v Speaker 2>My first thought was, there's something wrong with me, even

0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:35.320
<v Speaker 2>though the doctors had said there's nothing wrong with you.

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:39.520
<v Speaker 2>And statistically most people go on to have really healthy

0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:44.400
<v Speaker 2>babies after a pregnancy after a miscarriage. So I knew

0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:48.399
<v Speaker 2>logically that everything was okay, but there was a massive

0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:50.320
<v Speaker 2>part of me that was like, well, you don't know

0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:52.919
<v Speaker 2>for sure. And so Matt and I had we had

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:54.919
<v Speaker 2>gotten so excited about the prospect that we were going

0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:57.000
<v Speaker 2>to have a baby, and we had started to envisage

0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:58.480
<v Speaker 2>what our life was going to be like, and we

0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:01.400
<v Speaker 2>had started to get excited about that, and then that

0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:04.520
<v Speaker 2>was taken away from us, and so that really shifted

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 2>our perspective on what we wanted in life. And then

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 2>that's what made us go, Okay, well, all bets are off. Now,

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 2>let's just keep trying and see what happens. And we

0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:16.160
<v Speaker 2>were so incredibly lucky to then have Maley. May Part

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 2>of that, though, was that my entire pregnancy with Maley

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 2>was really overshadowed by the fact that I had had

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:23.560
<v Speaker 2>that miscarriage, and I really felt like I wasn't able

0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 2>to enjoy being pregnant in the same way that I

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:29.399
<v Speaker 2>think I would have had enjoyed it. If I hadn't

0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:31.440
<v Speaker 2>miscarried the first time, and you.

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Felt pregnant with Marley quite soon after your miscarriage, is

0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:37.720
<v Speaker 1>that that's right, isn't it. Yeah, So we were really lucky,

0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 1>like and we have always been quite lucky with falling pregnant.

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess for us it's the staying pregnant part that's

0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:44.360
<v Speaker 1>been a bit of a struggle.

0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 2>So I felt pregnant about two months after I'd had

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 2>my miscarriage. The problem with my pregnancy with Marley was

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:55.480
<v Speaker 2>that I bled throughout my whole pregnancy. So it happens

0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:57.199
<v Speaker 2>to some people and they can still go on to

0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:00.960
<v Speaker 2>have really healthy pregnancies. But it was this constant looming

0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:04.159
<v Speaker 2>fear that I had. And I remember being at remember

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:07.399
<v Speaker 2>being at Melbourne Cup two years ago and I was

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 2>pregnant and we hadn't come out yet and said that

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:12.399
<v Speaker 2>we were pregnant, and I started bleeding at Melbourne Cup

0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 2>and I just was filled with so much sadness because

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:20.360
<v Speaker 2>I thought it's happening again, Like how do I stop this?

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 2>It's happening again. And we ended up leaving and coming

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.400
<v Speaker 2>back home to Sydney, and I was just so so

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 2>sad because I kept feeling like, this is everything is

0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 2>happening again. We were really lucky, like I did bleed

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:36.080
<v Speaker 2>through my whole pregnancy, but you know, we went on

0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:38.840
<v Speaker 2>to have an incredibly healthy, beautiful baby. But I do

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 2>feel like that pregnancy was fully shadowed by the fact

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 2>that we had already had a miscarriage.

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And I guess the fact is, of course you're

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 1>so lucky to fall pregnant again so quickly, because that

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 1>often doesn't happen. But the fact of the matter is

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 1>it was it was so soon after you just went

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:58.000
<v Speaker 1>through this traumatic experience that of course you're going to

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:02.119
<v Speaker 1>have that fear and stress because it's literally just happened. Yeah,

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 1>like you didn't really have the time to I guess

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't know did you mourn properly or was it

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:11.479
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh my god, it's happening again so quickly.

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:13.479
<v Speaker 2>But I also think I don't think it really changes.

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that if you've had a miscarriage once, then

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:19.119
<v Speaker 2>that's always going to taint your ability to enjoy your

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 2>second pregnancy. There's always going to be some fear attached

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 2>to it. I was saying to you earlier, Britt, when

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:26.440
<v Speaker 2>we were talking about this episode. I didn't really have

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:29.159
<v Speaker 2>the understanding of what it was to have a miscarriage.

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I didn't really have the level of empathy. I was

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:33.439
<v Speaker 2>kind of I kind of thought like, how can you

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 2>be so sad about something that only existed for eight

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 2>ten weeks? You know, I didn't quite it didn't quite click.

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:42.440
<v Speaker 2>And then what happened to me, I was like, Oh,

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 2>I get this now. It really allowed me to have

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 2>a total different understanding and perspective on what miscarriage is

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 2>and the loss that goes along with that feeling.

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, I imagine, I guess for me, I haven't experienced it,

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>so for me to try and put myself in that position,

0:25:57.720 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's like when you have a breakup, even

0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 1>if that's not even if you haven't moved with that

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 1>person for long, sometimes you mourn the loss of what

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>could have been and the idea of the life you

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>had and what you had planned, what you had thought about,

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 1>and what you had imagined. So I imagine it's the same thing.

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Sure it was eight weeks, but you had your whole

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:16.640
<v Speaker 1>life had just changed, and your whole thought process had

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:19.160
<v Speaker 1>included now this amazing little human.

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 2>The other part of it as well, and I guess

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 2>like the part that I really wanted to have a

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:26.640
<v Speaker 2>conversation about is that there is this secrecy that surrounds

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:29.160
<v Speaker 2>the first three months of pregnancy. You know, we're really

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 2>told don't tell anyone because you might have a miscarriage.

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.199
<v Speaker 2>And then the issue with that is that if you

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 2>haven't had a conversation with your family or your friends

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 2>about the fact that you're pregnant, then when a miscarriage happens,

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 2>it means that you're not able to have a conversation

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 2>about the miscarriage, which which I found really difficult because

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I can't go to work, I can't

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:50.959
<v Speaker 2>go and do things with my friends because it's so

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 2>visceral and physical, which we will get into because I

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 2>think it's really important to talk about in detail what

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 2>it feels like and you know what it is. But

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I felt like, Okay, this huge thing has happened to me,

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 2>and I can't talk about it now because nobody even

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:08.639
<v Speaker 2>knew I was pregnant in the first place. There was

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.240
<v Speaker 2>this feeling of like invalidation that kind of went with

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 2>it as well.

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's a bit of a catch twenty two

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.159
<v Speaker 1>isn't it. Because the reason they tell you not to

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:18.680
<v Speaker 1>go and tell the world about it until twelve weeks

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>is because you have the highest risk of miscarrying in

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 1>that first twelve weeks. But then, like you said, you

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:26.119
<v Speaker 1>don't tell anyone, and you go through it, and then

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.640
<v Speaker 1>you don't feel like you can tell anyone, So that's

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a catch. Twenty two. I imagine it's

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>important to tell a few close people to you, and

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I think most people would probably do that so that

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 1>if this ever does happen, you do have somebody to

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:42.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of lean on. It really cuts me deeply when

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>you say you felt so alone, which is mind blowing

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.360
<v Speaker 1>because miscarriage is so common.

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:50.679
<v Speaker 2>The statistics at the moments to say that one in

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 2>five women who are pregnant will.

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Have a miscarriage.

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.120
<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't feel like that, Like when it's happening

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 2>to you, it really feels like, well, where are the

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 2>frigg are these other women? Like, like, holy hell, I

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 2>haven't met them yet. But like I said, as soon

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:05.239
<v Speaker 2>as it had happened to me and I kind of

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.959
<v Speaker 2>joined this club, as you would say, like I felt

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 2>like people were so much more open to talk about

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 2>their experiences. And then I found out that friends and

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:16.959
<v Speaker 2>family members and people who I never knew had had

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 2>a miscarriage would talk to me about it. I guess

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 2>like that whole story kind of brings us to two

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>months ago, and what happened was is that and I've

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 2>been trying. It's a pretty non unique story in that

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 2>it happens to a lot of women. But basically, I

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 2>found out I was pregnant and I told you, and sorry, Matt,

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I did know before you. I tolt bred and I

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 2>told Paul Matt, and once again like we had gotten

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 2>really excited about it, and we had booked out dating

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 2>scans and everything, and then and then a week later,

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I felt different and I knew something was wrong and

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 2>I knew what was happening. Again, I guess I never

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 2>thought I would be someone who would have one miscarriage,

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 2>let alone did I think I would be someone who

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 2>would have two miscarriages. To me, it's been really important

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 2>to talk about miscarriage because it's been an inextricable part

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 2>of my pregnancy journey. And I do also think that

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 2>it does a disservice to just be like, hey, I've

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 2>got a beautiful, healthy baby, because maybe there's another woman

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>out there who's struggling to have children. And you see

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 2>pregnancy announcement after pregnancy announcement on Instagram, and it seems

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 2>like everybody has it's so easy, and so I think

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 2>it's really important to talk about the dark side and

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 2>the difficult side because they go hand in hand, they

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 2>really do.

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>And we do have a lot of people actually write

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>in to us saying how to deal with that. A

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, a lot of women are writing in saying,

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I really want a baby. All I'm seeing are my

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>friends falling pregnant. All I'm seeing everywhere I look on

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>social media are babies. So I think this is really

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>nice to know that, sure you do have Miley May

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 1>and she's incredible, but you have had two huge losses. Also,

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's really important for everyone listening and seeing

0:29:56.640 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>that and feeling like it's suffocating them that not everything

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>is what it seems, and you it's just really important

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>to focus on your own little journey. I remember when

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>you told me you were pregnant, and it had been

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>such a tough week. You had been going through a

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of other things as well. Your pop was really

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>ill at the time, and you had a lot of

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>stresses and Laura and I don't know if I was

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>like this because of you. You know when you hang

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>around someone a lot and you cry because they cry.

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Laura was crying.

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 2>I was putting, dumping all of my emotional energy onto you.

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 1>And we would walk into a podcast room and Laura

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 1>be really upset, and then I would just cry as well,

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know why we were so emotional. And

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 1>then she gets in the car one day and she

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>looks at me, she goes, I know I've been crying,

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>like why and You're like, I'm pregnant, And I was like,

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>what about the podcast? But no, I do, I do

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 1>remember that, And then I guess it wasn't that long

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 1>after a few weeks after and then obviously your whole

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>world was turned upside down again. I guess my question

0:30:56.240 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>right now is is the feeling the second time around?

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>How did it differ from the first time? In everything?

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to know how it differed physically, Like did

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>you feel the same things? Did it take the same

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>amount of time? Emotionally? Was it the same thing? So

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's just like I'm asking from a point

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>of I have no idea I'm going to ask as

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:19.959
<v Speaker 1>if I'm the general public that hasn't been through it,

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm genuinely interested in what happened. You know, what

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>you felt and what you went through.

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>So I think, like, firstly, it is a huge emotional whiplash.

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 2>You for one day feel so excited and happy, and

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>then the next day you're like, oh, okay, that's gone.

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 2>But the thing that was different the second time around

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 2>to the first time around is that I almost hadn't

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:46.479
<v Speaker 2>allowed myself to get excited yet, Like I had really

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 2>just compartmentalized the fact that I was pregnant and put

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 2>it into a bit of a box in the side

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 2>of my brain and being like, cool, well, we'll only

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 2>check into that and allow my I'll only open that

0:31:56.560 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>box once I know that everything is okay.

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>That makes sense. I remember you actually saying, I said,

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:04.479
<v Speaker 1>how are you going to tell Matt? Are you going

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 1>to tell him tonight? And I remember saying, Oh, I

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>might just hold off a little while. I'm not ready

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 1>to get in there yet, like I've got so much

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>work to do. You were sort of like, I'm gonna

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>put it aside because I know once I tell him

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>it's on. He was going to be yeah on like

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Donkey Kong.

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 2>And I think that like the first time, the first

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 2>time that I was pregnant, the first time I told Matt,

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 2>I was so excited and I was so happy, and

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 2>the thought of a miscarriage never even entered my brain space.

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like, what that happens to you know other people?

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 1>That happened to me? What is that?

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 2>And then I guess this time around, I was like, oh, actually,

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 2>do you know what, I'm not going to get excited

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>about it and I will just kind of ride this

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 2>out and see what happens. And that that affected me

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 2>in a lot of ways because I did tell Matt

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 2>that I was pregnant, but it affected the way that

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I told Matt that I was pregnant. Had I allowed

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 2>myself to get it excited, I would have gone and

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 2>like gotten cute booties and like done a cute little

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 2>like a baby reveal.

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 1>We're having a baby.

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Instead, we were sitting on the couch this one night

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 2>and we just ordered pizza pepperoni pepperoni pizza from memory

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 2>from gelber Since down the road, and it was really spicy,

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 2>and it because I was pregnant, it tasted a bit weird,

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 2>and so I had a mouthful and it tasted really strange,

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, this, this pizza tastes like soap.

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 2>And Matt was like, no, the pizza tastes fine. And

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, no, the pizza tastes like soap.

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 2>And he was like, Laura, the pizza tastes great. And

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, I'm pregnant, so it tastes like soap.

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Okayeah.

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Like that was how I told him, But it was

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 2>me being defensive because I was so in my mind

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 2>so fearful of the thought that maybe I was going

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 2>to have another miscarriage. So I was like, well, no,

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 2>if I can't be excited about it, no one's going

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 2>to be excited about it.

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I guess, like there's different thoughts on everything. Maybe I

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 2>manifested it, if if you want to go down that

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 2>train of thought. But I felt the exact same way

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 2>with Marley, Like I didn't allow myself to get excited,

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 2>properly excited about Marley until she was like six months

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 2>in my belly. I guess this time, it's taken the

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 2>shine off it. It's taken the shine of pregnancy, it's

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 2>taken the excitement of pregnancy, and that's that's sad.

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Really. I want to just touch on something you just said,

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and I know you didn't really mean it, but when

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 1>you said maybe you manifested it because you didn't want

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 1>to get excited, you absolutely did not manifest it. You

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>were just you were just reacting to a situation you

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 1>had been through before, and that's that's how we live

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and learn in our life. So you had adapted to

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 1>a situation and not to do it, but you do

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 1>not manifest things like that.

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 2>And the sensible part of me knows that. But isn't

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.720
<v Speaker 2>it funny? Like I would never in my normal life

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 2>think that, think this, Like I would never think and

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:48.240
<v Speaker 2>put guilt on something like that. But even by saying

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I manifested it or there was even trying to use

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:55.880
<v Speaker 2>that as an excuse, I'm still harboring some guilt for it.

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Which is one way I feel. I know I can tell,

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I want to point that out that

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine the feeling a lot of women must feel.

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that, like, what's wrong with me? And why couldn't

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I provide a home for this baby? And why couldn't

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I carry it? And what could I have done differently?

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 2>You kind of start racking your brain and you go, oh,

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 2>my god, was it those few glasses of wine I

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 2>had before I found out I was pregnant, Or was

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 2>it the fact that I did a like a hit class,

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 2>or you start thinking all these things that are totally

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:30.399
<v Speaker 2>irrational and which research says none of it actually would

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 2>make a difference, but you still kind of want something

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 2>to blame from a physical conversation about what it feels like.

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 2>When I went to the doctor, they talked about it.

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 2>They explained to me what had happened, and they gave

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 2>me my option as to whether I wanted to be

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 2>medically induced or whether I wanted to go through the

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 2>process of passing me myself, or they could give you

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 2>medication to speed up the process. I decided that I

0:35:55.920 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 2>would just wait, and they didn't prepare me for how

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 2>physically painful and taxing it is. And so not only

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 2>are you going through like the sadness side of things

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 2>it is. I know that everyone is different, and so

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I can only speak for my own experience, but it

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 2>is such a painful full body experience in that you

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 2>feel like you're having contractions, you pass really big clots

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 2>like they can range anywhere between like the size of

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 2>a fifty cent piece up to the size of an orange.

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Like there's such a spectrum. So forgive me for my ignorance,

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just gonna say things as it happens. When

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you're saying like you're passing the clots, what, let's start

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>at the start. What what's the first thing that happened

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:42.800
<v Speaker 1>that you said, Okay, something's not right. Was it bleeding?

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Was it pain? Was it soire?

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 2>For me, I had a sharp pain in my left

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 2>side that wouldn't go away, just kind of like a stitch,

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 2>like days for a few hours. Oh, okay, for a

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 2>few hours. And this is, like I said, this is

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 2>totally different for every single person. Some people get spotted first,

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:03.800
<v Speaker 2>and then there's people who have spotting and that's totally normal.

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 2>But so I had this pain and it wouldn't go away.

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 2>And then I started getting a bit more cramping in

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 2>my lull back and I was like, this feels very

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.479
<v Speaker 2>very reminiscent of like period pain.

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, what is this? And then I

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>started getting spotting and that's when I knew, like, Okay,

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>this doesn't feel right.

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Something's really wrong. So then over the course of the

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 2>next twenty four hours, like the pain increased and the

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:33.439
<v Speaker 2>bleeding increased, and it kind of increased to a point

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 2>where I was like, well, it's undeniable, what's happening? And

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 2>I called my doctor and had a conversation. And what

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.840
<v Speaker 2>does that involve calling the doctor?

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like what, like what do they eat?

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 2>I guess it depends like some people will go to emergency,

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 2>some people will write it out at home, like there

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 2>is such a spectrum. I didn't go to emergency because

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 2>my doctor had explained to me that there really is

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 2>nothing that they can do if you are miscarrying. So

0:37:57.239 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, I will wait this out and

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 2>see what happens. And and it was like it was undeniable.

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I knew what was happening. And then then you start

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 2>having the contraction waves like this really intense, like buckled

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:12.399
<v Speaker 2>over pain, and then it kind of subsides a little

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.440
<v Speaker 2>bit and you'll have a gush of blood and then

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 2>it will happen again. But I still continue to bleed

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 2>for like three weeks after that, which it's just this

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 2>constant reminder. It's this constant reminder of what is happening.

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 2>So not only do you feel sad and shit, but

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 2>you physically feel so sad and shit. And I just

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 2>felt like I was so poorly prepared for the physical

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 2>side of what it entails. And I mean, in both

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:38.880
<v Speaker 2>of my miscarriagters, I was early, like I was definitely

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:42.320
<v Speaker 2>first trimester. I was relatively early trimester. It was still

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 2>so physically intensive that I can only imagine what it's

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 2>like for women who miscarry later on in life, So

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:51.840
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of from a physical perspective. I must admit

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't know how long it went on for

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:56.799
<v Speaker 2>because I remember two three weeks down the track and

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 2>you'd say, I'm still bleeding, I'm still having to wear

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 2>a pad, And I was really shocked because I guess

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 2>I've never really spoken about it with other people either,

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't know.

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I knew that you passed a lot of clothes, and

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I knew you blared a lot, but I didn't think

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 1>it went on for so long. And I think a

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of people probably don't know that.

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:15.759
<v Speaker 2>And maybe for some people it doesn't. And sorry for

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:19.240
<v Speaker 2>like being so super graphic guys, like, but I guess

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I know that for me, there just wasn't any information

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:24.759
<v Speaker 2>on this, Like I would get onto forums and I

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 2>would read what other people had kind of written about it,

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 2>but from like a girlfriend to girlfriend conversation, there just

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.359
<v Speaker 2>wasn't any of this sort of information out there. And

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I think had I had that information at hand or

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 2>had heard someone say it before it started happening to me,

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:40.280
<v Speaker 2>I would have felt a little bit more emotionally equipped

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 2>for it. So in saying that, the second time around,

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I felt more emotionally equipped for the physical side of

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 2>actually having a miscarriage because I knew what I was

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 2>in for and I knew what to expect. So that's

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 2>what was different about this one versus the first one.

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:56.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you only told a few people you were pregnant,

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 1>but I remember when you told me that you had miscarried.

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>You it as in like, hey, I'm gonna be a

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:04.839
<v Speaker 1>bit late. I'm going through a miscarriage, but like, don't

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>even worry about it. I'll be there soon. And I

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 1>was like, I was like, ah, what. I was like, well,

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 1>you're late because you're miscarrying, and You're like yeah, but

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 1>it's totally fine. And I remember just being like Laura,

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>like it's not fine, and you can sit in this

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 1>and let's talk about this. But you were like, no, like,

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll deal with it later, there's nothing we can do,

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:26.320
<v Speaker 1>and you just wanted to get on with it because

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.759
<v Speaker 1>I think you knew this time around. I guess that

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 1>there is nothing you can do right now, and it's

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:33.440
<v Speaker 1>going to go on for a while.

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 2>And I'm a real coper, like, I'm not someone who

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 2>sits in my sadness. And it also takes me a

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 2>little while to really process how I feel about things.

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's some I'm sure there's some people who

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:45.360
<v Speaker 2>can relate to this, but when something bad happens, it

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:48.760
<v Speaker 2>takes me a while for my brain to go, oh,

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:51.880
<v Speaker 2>you're sad, or oh, this is how you actually feel.

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't really feel my feelings instantly, and so it

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of took me a couple of days to process

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 2>how I actually felt about what was happening. And that

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.280
<v Speaker 2>also ties into the fact that I hadn't really allowed

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:04.759
<v Speaker 2>myself to be happy about it in.

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:05.360
<v Speaker 1>The first place.

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 2>The more that people talk about it, the more that

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 2>we normalize it, the more conversation that there is, then

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 2>the less stigma that's attached to it. And there is

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 2>this like real therapeutic healing that comes from having a

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:24.280
<v Speaker 2>conversation about something and talking through an experience and seeing

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 2>other people and meeting other people who have had that

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:30.359
<v Speaker 2>same loss, because it makes you realize, oh, there's nothing

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:32.439
<v Speaker 2>wrong with me, like that's happened to them as well.

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 2>And I remember reading Michelle Obama had had a miscarriage,

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 2>and I remembered reading about it in great detail, and

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 2>she really explained how she felt and how far along

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 2>she was, and she was quite far along in her pregnancy,

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, Wow, she is someone I wish

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 2>with such huge influence in the world, and she is

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 2>someone who I think is REALI she's incredible. And I

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 2>was like, she's talking about this, and she's having a

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:04.799
<v Speaker 2>conversation about this publicly, with no judgment, with no girl,

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 2>with no stigma attached. And I was like, this is

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 2>what we need to be doing, because it's the only

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 2>way for people to feel like they're supported and seen

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 2>in this.

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>How I guess did it affect Matt and yours and

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Matt's relationship because I just wonder how often the husband

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:22.000
<v Speaker 1>or boyfriend or fiance is not left out of it.

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 1>But I guess it's hard for them they probably don't

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:27.240
<v Speaker 1>feel the attachment to the level because it's not inside

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>of them, but they would have a loss as well.

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 1>They would imagine their life with a child, and I

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 1>wonder if sometimes we forget about them.

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 2>That is so incredible, Like he has always been so

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:39.799
<v Speaker 2>so supportive of me. He was the one that was

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:42.839
<v Speaker 2>really supportive of me talking about it publicly. He was like,

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:46.880
<v Speaker 2>you have these conversations because it gives purpose.

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 1>To the fact that it happened.

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:51.760
<v Speaker 2>That we have been through this now twice, It's really

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 2>galvanized our relationship. It's really made us go through the

0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 2>amazing times together and also work through some of the

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:01.760
<v Speaker 2>really shitty times as well, but also makes us realize

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:03.760
<v Speaker 2>that we want to have more kids. You know, every

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 2>time that it has happened to us, we're like, no,

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 2>this is really what we want because because we wanted it, Yeah,

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:11.440
<v Speaker 2>because we were so sad by it not happening. So

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 2>it really reinforces the choices and the fact that this

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 2>is this is exactly what we want.

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 1>So moving into another direction, you and I were just

0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 1>like going through what we were going to talk about today,

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 1>and it sort of came up how sometimes your friends

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:30.839
<v Speaker 1>or people in your life can have so much like

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 1>goodwill and have great intentions when they want to come

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and support you, but it doesn't quite hit the mark.

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess what's your advice If there is someone out

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:41.799
<v Speaker 1>there that's friend is going through this, what are some

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.400
<v Speaker 1>things that you found? And if I did something, you

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 1>can tell me now what this is?

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:48.359
<v Speaker 2>This is exactly it we were kind of talking about,

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:50.399
<v Speaker 2>like all the different facets of what we could talk

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 2>about in and around miscarriage. And obviously there's going to

0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:57.360
<v Speaker 2>be so many people who never experience it themselves, but

0:43:57.400 --> 0:43:59.799
<v Speaker 2>they will be in a situation where someone they love

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 2>it experience is it? And I know from being in

0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 2>the situation myself that there there are not many things

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 2>that you can say that will make the situation better,

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 2>but there are a lot of things that you can

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 2>say that will make the situation worse.

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, So let's hope I wasn't in this category.

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I what I really kind of wanted to say. People

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 2>very well meaning will say it to you like, oh, well,

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.360
<v Speaker 2>you know it just wasn't meant to be, or maybe

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 2>this isn't the right time for you, And like I

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:32.359
<v Speaker 2>get that they're trying to be supportive and they're trying

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:35.319
<v Speaker 2>to be constructive, But when you are going through miscarriage,

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 2>being told that now is not the right time, it

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:41.000
<v Speaker 2>feels very dismissive of what is happening, and it feels

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 2>very much like, well, actually, not now is the right time.

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I wanted this. I was excited and happy about this.

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:48.799
<v Speaker 2>So telling me that that now is not the right time,

0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 2>or that you know, obviously something's wrong and that's why

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 2>it didn't happen, it doesn't actually take away the feeling

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 2>of hurt and sadness. Another one that I think is

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 2>really common, which I heard in my second pregnancy, and

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I only heard it from a couple of people because

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I really only spoke about my miscarriage to a couple

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:09.359
<v Speaker 2>of people. But it seems really common when you have

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 2>one child to be told, oh, well, like you're just

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 2>you're lucky that you have Mali, and you're lucky that

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:18.759
<v Speaker 2>you have a baby. And I am lucky that I

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:20.400
<v Speaker 2>have a baby. I know that, and I know there

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 2>are many women out there who don't have that. But

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:26.879
<v Speaker 2>just because you have a child doesn't diminish your right

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 2>to feel grief over something that you lost.

0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Just because you have one doesn't take away the fact

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:33.920
<v Speaker 1>that you have lost something else.

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 2>And I think the only honestly, if you know someone

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:38.759
<v Speaker 2>who's having a miscarriage and they come and they talk

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 2>to you about it, the only thing that you can

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 2>say that is going to be good in this situation

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:46.320
<v Speaker 2>is like, that fucking sucks.

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:49.280
<v Speaker 1>And I'm really that was literally quote what I said

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 1>to you.

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that fucking sucks, and I'm really sorry, and I

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 2>hope you're okay. How are you Can I do anything

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 2>for you? Do you need me to cook something? Do

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:00.800
<v Speaker 2>you need a hug? Maybe all right now social distancing,

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 2>but do you need anything? And I think that that's enough.

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:07.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you need to explain or try and

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't think you need to explain or

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.560
<v Speaker 2>try and tell people like, oh, like you'll get pregnant again,

0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 2>this happened.

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 1>To my friend.

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Like, none of that really matters in that moment. The

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 2>only thing that matters is to say, are you okay?

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 2>And is there anything I can do?

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it's important not to try to justify to

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:27.280
<v Speaker 1>your friend why something happened, which is I think anyone

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 1>in your life that he's talking to you like that

0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:30.439
<v Speaker 1>and they mean so well, and they do it from

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.000
<v Speaker 1>love and saying that like it's not your time, it

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:35.480
<v Speaker 1>will come. That's from a good place, but it's not

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 1>helping you in your situation totally.

0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 2>And I say this out of love, like I say

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:42.400
<v Speaker 2>this because I used to do this, Like I was

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:45.799
<v Speaker 2>that person, and I would have that conversation thinking that

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:47.719
<v Speaker 2>I was doing the right thing. And then when I

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 2>was in the situation myself, I was like, I realized

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:52.720
<v Speaker 2>how tone depth that was. But it took me, being

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:56.000
<v Speaker 2>in the position of someone who's experiencing it, to go, oh,

0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 2>my god, please stop lecturing me on how or why

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 2>this has happened to my like just shut up and say,

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 2>I hope you're okay. But I know it comes from

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:08.280
<v Speaker 2>the most well meaning place. But I think that sometimes,

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, people react weird when they're put in an

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:15.719
<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable position and it's an uncomfortable conversation and we don't

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 2>really know how to deal with other people's grief when

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:19.920
<v Speaker 2>it makes us uncomfortable.

0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's that idea again, isn't it. It's the idea

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:25.840
<v Speaker 1>of that you can't change that situation now, like you can't.

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:27.839
<v Speaker 1>Nothing anyone can say or do is going to change

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 1>what has happened. So it's really I remember just saying

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to you that fucking sucks, and then I was like,

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:36.839
<v Speaker 1>and I am so sorry, and I am here any

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:38.920
<v Speaker 1>time of the day or night. Call me. And then

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 1>that's all you can do, because you can't nothing else

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 1>that you can do. All you can do is be

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 1>there for your friend. Nothing you say is going to

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 1>change the fact that it's happened. So I think it's

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 1>really important just to be there and genuinely be there.

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I really feel like I have covered everything that I

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 2>set out to talk about in this episode regards to

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:05.120
<v Speaker 2>my own personal experience and my own experiences with pregnancy

0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:09.279
<v Speaker 2>and with loss, and I just really I can't I

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 2>can't stress this enough really that I don't think that

0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:15.480
<v Speaker 2>my story is unique. I think that there are so

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:18.320
<v Speaker 2>many women who have been through something very very similar,

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 2>and there is power in conversation and there is power

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 2>in talking about that shared experience. If just one person

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 2>who has gone through something similar feels more supported and

0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:33.680
<v Speaker 2>they feel seen, and they feel like their feelings and

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 2>their sadness is validated and they feel supported in this,

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:41.920
<v Speaker 2>then there is purpose to sharing this. And I'm okay

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 2>with being exposed and putting my small story out there

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:46.160
<v Speaker 2>in the world.

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I just am really proud of you. That's all I

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:53.360
<v Speaker 1>want to say. You're such an incredible woman, and I

0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>mean seeing you go through it, seeing everything else that

0:48:56.719 --> 0:49:00.160
<v Speaker 1>you went through at the same time, and you, guys,

0:49:00.800 --> 0:49:03.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean I saw it firsthand. And there's so much

0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:05.840
<v Speaker 1>that Laura went through in that time that you guys

0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know about. And God, I just like, I just

0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 1>take my I just can't say enough about you right now,

0:49:13.880 --> 0:49:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and I take my hat off to you for being

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:19.320
<v Speaker 1>brave enough to tell your story on such a public platform.

0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:21.880
<v Speaker 1>And I know there'll be so many women out there

0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 1>that will be grateful, and so many women that would

0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:25.960
<v Speaker 1>have just learned so much and taken something from this

0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and they won't feel alone. And for that, I just

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:34.920
<v Speaker 1>love you. I think you're amazing. Thank you. How what

0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:41.960
<v Speaker 1>do we do with that? Okay, it's so cute. I

0:49:42.000 --> 0:49:45.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, where do we go now? I can't even hug.

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 2>A jeez, life guys, throw some fucking spanners at you.

0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess whilst we are having the conversation about it,

0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:58.840
<v Speaker 1>we just thought, if we're going to get onto this

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 1>really personal level and Laura is going to share the

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 1>situation and the feelings and the experiences that she went

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:06.840
<v Speaker 1>through personally, that maybe we should just touch on a

0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:09.640
<v Speaker 1>few things from a medical point of view as well,

0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:14.000
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like the miscarriage is such a huge,

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 1>huge topic and I don't think we'll ever be fully

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:21.840
<v Speaker 1>revisiting it, hopefully for all of our sake, So we

0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 1>just thought we would talk about I guess some reasons

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:30.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe miscarriage happen just so people don't feel like it's

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:32.920
<v Speaker 1>just their body. So there are a few different things

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:36.480
<v Speaker 1>and a few different reasons that they can happen. And again, guys,

0:50:36.560 --> 0:50:38.839
<v Speaker 1>we are not doctors. We have just done a little

0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:41.000
<v Speaker 1>bit of research ourselves and that's all we can do.

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:44.279
<v Speaker 1>If anything, if you are experiencing anything, or you do

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:46.080
<v Speaker 1>you have any worries, of course, go to the doctor

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:49.239
<v Speaker 1>and of course speak to someone. I guess first and foremost,

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:52.799
<v Speaker 1>like we said, miscarriage is really common and most of

0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the time it's a chromosomal abnormality.

0:50:56.840 --> 0:50:59.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, like I said earlier, like one in five

0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:03.439
<v Speaker 2>seems to be the statistic, and it was mostly early

0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:07.800
<v Speaker 2>pregnancy that that happens in But from what I understand

0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:10.319
<v Speaker 2>and from what I know about it is that majority

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 2>of miscarriages that happen are completely unpreventable. It's not that

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:17.120
<v Speaker 2>you did something, it's not that you ate something. It's

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:19.719
<v Speaker 2>nothing that you have done lifestyle wise that's caused this.

0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:23.120
<v Speaker 2>There has been there's so many things that have to

0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 2>go right along the way for a pregnancy to be

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:30.600
<v Speaker 2>viable and for a healthy child to be born, that

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:33.960
<v Speaker 2>just something has gone wrong along that line. And the

0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:36.960
<v Speaker 2>really disheartening thing is that often they can't tell you why.

0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:39.960
<v Speaker 2>They can't actually give you a reason. They just say

0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:42.439
<v Speaker 2>like it's one of those things. And that's what they've

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:44.040
<v Speaker 2>done for me for the last three times. They can't

0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 2>tell me why it's happened. Maybe there is like some

0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:51.160
<v Speaker 2>sort of compromise in your cerbex or your uterus. That's

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:53.359
<v Speaker 2>also something, but that's a very physical thing that they

0:51:53.400 --> 0:51:56.880
<v Speaker 2>can internally check and actually validate and give you a

0:51:56.920 --> 0:51:59.759
<v Speaker 2>reason for. But majority of times you will come out

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:02.319
<v Speaker 2>of this experience and have absolutely no idea why it

0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:03.440
<v Speaker 2>happened in the first place.

0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the doctors will actually say that it's just genetically

0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:10.560
<v Speaker 1>abnormal embryos. It's out of your control, like absolutely out

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:12.439
<v Speaker 1>of your control. And something that I did read Laura

0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:14.319
<v Speaker 1>that I had no idea about, and I don't know

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:16.240
<v Speaker 1>if you had any idea about it, but I actually

0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:21.080
<v Speaker 1>found it fascinating is that it's not just like as

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:23.719
<v Speaker 1>women age. We all know that every doctor says that

0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:26.560
<v Speaker 1>as you age as a woman, it increases your chance

0:52:26.600 --> 0:52:29.040
<v Speaker 1>of things going wrong in pregnancy. And I feel like

0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:32.480
<v Speaker 1>it's always been put on the women. Your eggs are aging,

0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:34.719
<v Speaker 1>and you better get a riggle on and all these

0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of things that just put so much pressure on you. Anyway,

0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:40.359
<v Speaker 1>I read that it's also men that age and their

0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:43.759
<v Speaker 1>sperm as their sperm ages that can also increase your

0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:47.160
<v Speaker 1>risk of miscarrying. So a men, they say from like

0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:50.800
<v Speaker 1>forty five on their sperm can start to have issues

0:52:50.800 --> 0:52:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and that can also increase your risk. So I actually

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 1>had no idea that that was even a thing.

0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Isn't it funny that we put so much I guess

0:52:56.920 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 2>there's so much conversation around women and our biological clocks,

0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:02.880
<v Speaker 2>but no one ever talks about men and men's biological clocks.

0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:05.080
<v Speaker 2>We just kind of I just thought sperm had a

0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:06.040
<v Speaker 2>great shelf life.

0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:09.240
<v Speaker 1>You see all these men though, that are like fifties,

0:53:09.239 --> 0:53:12.240
<v Speaker 1>sixty seventies, father and children, and so you always feel

0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 1>like it's all the pressure and all the fault and

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:16.160
<v Speaker 1>all the blame is on the women. But I just

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:18.239
<v Speaker 1>found that was a really interesting fact. And then there

0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 1>was one other thing that I wanted to touch on too,

0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:22.960
<v Speaker 1>And I guess you will know about this as well

0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:25.320
<v Speaker 1>from a personal level. But a lot of the questions

0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:29.680
<v Speaker 1>that people writing women, they're asking how soon is too

0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:32.240
<v Speaker 1>soon just to try again? When do you try again?

0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:36.160
<v Speaker 1>How long do you wait? And from what I have read,

0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:38.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what the doctor's told you, but I

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 1>read that one to two periods at least is like

0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:45.560
<v Speaker 1>should be your minimal. But also it's more of an

0:53:45.800 --> 0:53:47.879
<v Speaker 1>emotional and a physical thing, isn't it. It's like when

0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 1>you emotionally recover and feel like you're in a good place.

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:53.560
<v Speaker 2>No one actually told me that, Like, I didn't know

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:56.799
<v Speaker 2>that I was supposed to wait a period cycle and

0:53:57.239 --> 0:54:00.440
<v Speaker 2>my period never returned to normal after my first miss carriage,

0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:03.719
<v Speaker 2>so I never got a period. I got pregnant within

0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:07.200
<v Speaker 2>two months of my first miscarriage with it, but my

0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 2>period had never come back. See that's interesting, and so

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know I was pregnant.

0:54:11.840 --> 0:54:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know you could do that.

0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, there you go, you can't. So I didn't know

0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:20.040
<v Speaker 2>I was pregnant. It wasn't until I was quite far

0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:21.960
<v Speaker 2>along with Maley that I then found out I was

0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:24.480
<v Speaker 2>pregnant because I still hadn't gotten my period back and

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was just my body taking a really

0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:29.680
<v Speaker 2>long time to get back to normal and correct itself.

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:32.160
<v Speaker 2>But really I was pregnant again. Guys, I know that

0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:35.719
<v Speaker 2>this has been like quite a heavy episode and quite

0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:38.080
<v Speaker 2>a different episode to what we normally do, but it

0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:40.760
<v Speaker 2>is something that's so important and it's something that hugely

0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:44.360
<v Speaker 2>affects relationships. It's something that hugely affects women, and it

0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:46.880
<v Speaker 2>is something that we just don't talk about enough.

0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:49.040
<v Speaker 1>And we have started the conversation, and I hope now

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<v Speaker 1>you all, if you're feeling like you need an out,

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<v Speaker 1>you can talk on the Facebook group. But hopefully this

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<v Speaker 1>has helped some of you and you can just reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to your friends. And again, Laura, I I could

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<v Speaker 1>say it a thousand times, but I can't say thank

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<v Speaker 1>you enough. And I know there's a lot of women

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<v Speaker 1>out there that will be so eternally grateful for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Sharing what you just shared, because it is I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine how exposing it is, and you must feel so vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, thank you for letting me hijack this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's all yours, baby, It is all yours.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, guys, So we never finished an episode without

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<v Speaker 2>our suck and our suite and our suck and our

0:55:33.760 --> 0:55:36.640
<v Speaker 2>suite is basically just the highlights and the low lights

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<v Speaker 2>of every week. Brittany, what is your suck?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? So my suck? I mean it didn't really affect

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<v Speaker 1>me directly, but I guess I was. I was quite

0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:49.799
<v Speaker 1>offended by it. I'm not surey, I don't remember if

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<v Speaker 1>I were.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna take my suck right now. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you're taking my suck and using it as your own suck.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. You can get sucked? Did I or

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<v Speaker 1>do I not tell you about Bennett Street Dairy Cookies. No,

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<v Speaker 1>my sister told me about it, all of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't remember, because guys, I've had this obsession for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. Bennet Street Dairy cookies. They're these incredible cookies

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<v Speaker 1>from a cafe close to us, and they are like

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<v Speaker 1>out of control. Good. Laura also has had the obsession

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<v Speaker 1>since Io. They have started to sell the dough cookie dough,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like cookie dough crack. It has been our

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<v Speaker 1>sweets for a long time. It's also very expensive, lack.

0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 1>It's so expensive. So Laura bought like four logs the

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<v Speaker 1>other day we were coming home. She bought four logs.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm gonna buy some too. Anyway, she

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<v Speaker 1>bought them. All that's Brits suck. Then I knowed her

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, there were no bloody logs left.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, oh, I got four, come down and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you one. And I was like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take your log. I don't want it that much.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just wanting to wing. Anyway. I see later

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<v Speaker 1>that night on her story that she burnt her cookies black.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this expensive, very rare cookie dough. Oh you

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<v Speaker 1>did it. You took my suck because it was my

0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:06.160
<v Speaker 1>suck to you, and you gave me the suck first.

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<v Speaker 1>So my suck was my heart breaking at the log

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<v Speaker 1>that could have been Wow, I did it, you really

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<v Speaker 1>did it. Yeah, I did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Look it wasn't my best moment in life. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>freaking terrible cook. I just don't know why. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what's wrong with me. I purchased cookie dough pre made.

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<v Speaker 2>All I had to do was put it onto a

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<v Speaker 2>baking tray, put it in the oven for seven minutes

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<v Speaker 2>on one hundred and eighty degrees. I'd put it in

0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:35.960
<v Speaker 2>the oven, and then within two minutes of being in

0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 2>the oven, Molly had hit her head and was having

0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:39.520
<v Speaker 2>a tantrum. So I took her into the bedroom to

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<v Speaker 2>give her a bottle and a cuddle, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>came out like maybe twenty five minutes later.

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<v Speaker 1>They take six minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt was sitting on the couch. He could smell that

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<v Speaker 2>the house was on fire, and he was still sitting

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<v Speaker 2>on his couch. On the couch on Instagram, how are

0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:55.480
<v Speaker 2>you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>The house is bending down. We're homeless and have no

0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:02.840
<v Speaker 1>freaking cookies. Guys, if you had a taste of these cookies,

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<v Speaker 1>you would know that. I know this suck sounds ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was heartbreaking. But anyways, what's your sweet? My

0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:13.680
<v Speaker 1>sweet is? I guess now doing this podcast with you

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing you tell your story and just seeing even

0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you over the last few months since it's happened, and

0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:26.880
<v Speaker 1>how amazing you've been, how cradly you've been, and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>you on this journey to get to this point though,

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<v Speaker 1>to get to this point it's not easy, and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>you just get it all off your chest and knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that you're only doing it because you want to help

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<v Speaker 1>someone else. It's my sweet. Oh I don't, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>worriedy the compliments make me feel weird.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, year, just get into your suite then, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So my my suck I suck for the week was

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<v Speaker 2>the cookies was the cookies.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe I can come up with another suck. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's still the cookies.

0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:01.800
<v Speaker 2>And then my sweet for the week, I mean, apart

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<v Speaker 2>from the Magician Show, which was really freaking good, I

0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:06.760
<v Speaker 2>also think this is my sweet. I can't believe we

0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:08.360
<v Speaker 2>had the same suck and same sweet. There's got to

0:59:08.360 --> 0:59:09.040
<v Speaker 2>be a rule against that.

0:59:09.120 --> 0:59:11.400
<v Speaker 1>We're spending too much time because it is terrible. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not this is awful, what a disaster.

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<v Speaker 2>I've said it a few times throughout this episode, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's I think it's therapeutic for me to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about it. It also is probably going to

0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:26.000
<v Speaker 2>be something that even comes to a surprise to some

0:59:26.080 --> 0:59:28.640
<v Speaker 2>of my friends who I still haven't had a conversation about,

0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:32.600
<v Speaker 2>who I still haven't told. So it's kind of therapeutic

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to be like, this happened and it's

0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:39.160
<v Speaker 2>now out there in the world, and it means it's

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<v Speaker 2>okay for me to talk about it, and so to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to talk about it and to hope that

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<v Speaker 2>it helps somebody else, then that gives purpose. There's purpose

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<v Speaker 2>in the pain, and I really really have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of appreciation for that.

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