Speaker 1: Unapologetically Black would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of
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Speaker 1: across this great island continent now known as Australia and
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Speaker 1: always was and always will be Averaginal Lands.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Unapologetically Black with Jinny, Mara and Will.
Speaker 3: Hello, everyone, welcome to another episode of Unapologetically Black. I'm
Speaker 3: your host Ginny and I'm joined by my beautiful co hosts.
Speaker 4: Mara and Will Or Will and Mara.
Speaker 3: Well Mara which one Hi, Mara, will leget Mara Awena?
Speaker 5: No, I did go to Marowena. So thank Here we go.
Speaker 1: Thanks Jenny for the introduction. You're welcome as always, It's
Speaker 1: an absolute pleasure to be in the company of you
Speaker 1: and Will.
Speaker 5: I look forward to this.
Speaker 1: I do, and I think our listeners also look forward
Speaker 1: to this because this is an opportunity for us to
Speaker 1: just have an amazing you and have a good laugh.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, it's like fucking herding cats though trying
Speaker 2: to get.
Speaker 1: Us right, entrepreneurs, we got cats were lives but we
Speaker 1: make time for each other.
Speaker 5: So yeah, thank you, Jinny.
Speaker 4: You're welcome.
Speaker 3: Some of us have busier lives, like used to your
Speaker 3: schedules are.
Speaker 4: On another level.
Speaker 3: Like it was almost lightning striking to get you mob
Speaker 3: in the same Oh, there.
Speaker 2: Was a consolidated effort to get us here because, like
Speaker 2: Mara said, I love doing this. Gives me a laugh,
Speaker 2: a bit of a champagne.
Speaker 3: Anyway, it's been a minute since we actually all caught up,
Speaker 3: because I think the last time we were all together
Speaker 3: in person was last year.
Speaker 4: Hey was it last year?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Christmas soft?
Speaker 3: So yes are I think it's important to note this
Speaker 3: is random. I didn't know if I was going to
Speaker 3: bring this up, but here we are. Mara and I
Speaker 3: actually we went to sextor after we caught up, and
Speaker 3: there's some footage.
Speaker 4: Maybe we'll put that footage up on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Wait, you went to a sex shop after last time
Speaker 2: we recorded here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well we had a few dreams at the invite, clearly,
Speaker 6: because remember after filming, You're like, I'm going for a walk,
Speaker 6: and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, we spent literally maybe five hours in this room recording.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we go birds some energy.
Speaker 3: So I get it that you didn't want to spend
Speaker 3: any more time to realize.
Speaker 2: You were going to a sex shop.
Speaker 5: Hey, look out, So we should have told him.
Speaker 2: We did.
Speaker 3: We went to a sex shop and we learnt a
Speaker 3: lot and the guy that worked there was so lovely
Speaker 3: and I took a bunch of videos.
Speaker 4: So maybe we'll post that on Instagram for people to see.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, wait, so did you buy anything from
Speaker 2: the sex shop?
Speaker 1: Yes, that's for after dark. Well, let's talk about that
Speaker 1: after dark.
Speaker 2: What are we doing the after dark? I wanted to
Speaker 2: be dark. I needed to be dark already. I want
Speaker 2: to talk about.
Speaker 4: The dark we did.
Speaker 3: We did get a few I got a few things.
Speaker 3: Margaret Well, I got one thing, Mara got.
Speaker 5: A few such.
Speaker 1: I was buying things to gift people stuff, but that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm always looking for presents to gift people.
Speaker 5: I love gifting.
Speaker 2: Do you know I got gifted a lug once.
Speaker 4: A butler butt plug from who our friend?
Speaker 2: There was this time that you did like secret Santa.
Speaker 2: Instead of doing like a normal gift, we got each
Speaker 2: other like a sex toy.
Speaker 5: And everyone got the brief that is, we're going to
Speaker 5: gift each other sex.
Speaker 4: That's the whole point of it was this a friend
Speaker 4: thing or a work.
Speaker 2: No, a friend thing. I was gonna stay with a
Speaker 2: butt plot.
Speaker 4: Say that.
Speaker 2: Oh here the CEO, who's a Buttluguh?
Speaker 4: Wow, I love that?
Speaker 5: But yeah, we did.
Speaker 4: We did have We had.
Speaker 3: Fun and we learned a lot about different things. Mara,
Speaker 3: of course, was her eyes were like this.
Speaker 4: Just what is this?
Speaker 7: What is this?
Speaker 4: What is this?
Speaker 2: And can they do? Like do you know how you
Speaker 2: like to wine tasting? Can they like sex toy? He's tasting?
Speaker 2: Like you test it out? Like who was testing?
Speaker 4: Do you want to test a fucking something after someone
Speaker 4: else is used?
Speaker 2: Well not, We're not going to go use like a
Speaker 2: pre used I could get a fresh one.
Speaker 4: Who like, so you're paying for the so you.
Speaker 2: Know they get this. They have manufactured toys. They get
Speaker 2: kids to go test and the see if they were fun.
Speaker 2: Do you reckon? They get women and men out there
Speaker 2: using these toys before they release it to market.
Speaker 5: Like, that's an interesting conversation.
Speaker 2: We'll leave that to after dark.
Speaker 4: Apparently that's an after dark conversation.
Speaker 1: He was saying, we caught up and we after that
Speaker 1: last time we went for a walk. Ginny definitely opened
Speaker 1: my eyes to a world that I have not really been.
Speaker 1: I'm clearly living in this world, but I've just never
Speaker 1: been that adventurous. Is it called adventure?
Speaker 4: We've spent a while in that or a little bit just.
Speaker 1: Kind of I don't know. I was like, this is
Speaker 1: too much. It was a bit much, but it was good.
Speaker 1: It was good fun, good memories, and thank you very much, Ginny.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it.
Speaker 2: So change a topic.
Speaker 4: We're going to do it again.
Speaker 2: In my eyes? What recently opened my eyes? How much
Speaker 2: I have a distaste for Taylor Swift?
Speaker 5: Oh no, I became a swifty last night.
Speaker 2: I saw all of a sudden, a swiftly overnight.
Speaker 1: Okay, can I tell you whatteenth of December?
Speaker 2: Boo fucking hoo? Do you know how much she's wow?
Speaker 2: How much hotel prices were because of this woman was
Speaker 2: in town? Can I take it? Was ridiculous?
Speaker 1: She's won thirteen Grammys in thirteen years. She started off
Speaker 1: as a country singer and ended up being literally the
Speaker 1: first person in history to have one billion streams on Spotify?
Speaker 2: Is that fact? Though?
Speaker 5: Google it anyway.
Speaker 2: I'm sure like Doo Lipa has the most stream songs
Speaker 2: ever with four billion and something have a look.
Speaker 5: Have a look at Tita.
Speaker 2: Not only that we've got nicknames now, she must be
Speaker 2: a real.
Speaker 1: Fans also been on the billboards for the longest time.
Speaker 5: Still is right? So why why did I become a
Speaker 5: swifty and why do I love tATu? I'll tell you
Speaker 5: a couple of things.
Speaker 2: Since yesterday everybody day.
Speaker 1: Literally, I've got a seven year old daughter who I
Speaker 1: knew like Taylor Swift, but I didn't realize how much
Speaker 1: until recently. Her friends are over and they were doing
Speaker 1: these dances and I'm like, oh, they know the words
Speaker 1: of these songs. That's when I started kind of watching
Speaker 1: Tiger Lily and her two girlfriends. When I started listening
Speaker 1: to some of the lyrics and I started googling and
Speaker 1: started looking a lot of the things on social media, I
Speaker 1: realized that she was sending out such positive messages to
Speaker 1: young girls.
Speaker 2: Ful lyrics.
Speaker 5: Are you reading, listen to me?
Speaker 2: Listen to me.
Speaker 1: So for young girls to be comfortable in their own
Speaker 1: skin is one thing, right, because the pressure of society
Speaker 1: and social media. Then I've got a seven year old
Speaker 1: at the moment who goes into the room before school
Speaker 1: wants to make up on and I'm.
Speaker 5: Like tiger Lily, You're beautiful. You don't need to do that.
Speaker 5: So I think we need more actual.
Speaker 1: Positive role models in our young girls, especially young girls' lives,
Speaker 1: and I see Taylor Swift as a positive role model
Speaker 1: for my daughter. Second thing.
Speaker 4: Is she's on one.
Speaker 1: She was just she was at a concert, done a
Speaker 1: photo shoot and a DJ of a radio station started
Speaker 1: to get a photo with her and he thought he
Speaker 1: might grope her and grab her ass under her skirt,
Speaker 1: so she basically.
Speaker 5: You know, he denied it.
Speaker 1: She then went through a civil lawsuit she won, and
Speaker 1: she said, I do not want you to become bankrupt,
Speaker 1: so you can pay one dollar in damages. It was
Speaker 1: the principal that I, as a young female in this industry,
Speaker 1: I'm not letting that shit slide anymore. I'm going to
Speaker 1: speak up, and I want other women to do so,
Speaker 1: especially young women in that industry. That's why I became
Speaker 1: a swiftye. That's enough for me to begut to go.
Speaker 1: I love her. I don't care if she drove the
Speaker 1: prices up of hotels. She gave so much money away
Speaker 1: last year. Google how much philanthropy that she gave away
Speaker 1: of her own money last year that nobody's ever spoken about.
Speaker 2: Do you want to take the flaw a lot to say?
Speaker 3: I'm trying to be neutral, but I will just say,
Speaker 3: we are still talking about someone who is white, yes,
Speaker 3: and also did not is generationally wealthy?
Speaker 4: Is the other thing? So I don't, I don't listen.
Speaker 3: I like her music, it's catchy, but I also am like,
Speaker 3: this isn't a coincidence that she became who she is?
Speaker 4: Like, this is gentrification at its well.
Speaker 1: How many country music stars have been able to pivot
Speaker 1: into a whole different genre and bring the whole world
Speaker 1: along with them as a country music singer. There's not
Speaker 1: many people in our history. You're going to look at
Speaker 1: the bigger picture. She's rich, okay, But is she somebody
Speaker 1: that I want my daughter to look up to.
Speaker 5: Whether she's white, I don't care.
Speaker 1: But she sends really good messages to the younger generation
Speaker 1: of young women to be staunched, to be independent, to
Speaker 1: stand up for themselves and don't take anybody's ship.
Speaker 5: I love that, love that, but I love her.
Speaker 2: You know what, All the more power to your swifty doll.
Speaker 2: I think it's like the best news for you.
Speaker 1: But to go and buy the beads and meantime, I'm
Speaker 1: going to get them.
Speaker 5: You watch next time, I'm going to have Swifty Tate.
Speaker 2: I have a tattoo Tellers Swift ad Her.
Speaker 1: I just want more people to know that there's a
Speaker 1: lot that the media don't tell us about people.
Speaker 4: But I just think it's interesting as well.
Speaker 3: I understand and the whole pivoting from country to pop
Speaker 3: or whatever she chooses to do.
Speaker 4: She can do that because.
Speaker 2: Tell me, black artist has the privilege of doing well.
Speaker 4: I was just going to say, look at how much
Speaker 4: shit Beyonce.
Speaker 2: Got for releasing one song for Texas.
Speaker 5: Hold she got.
Speaker 4: Trying to be a country music singer now.
Speaker 5: And she has always been a country girl.
Speaker 2: Beyonce is like country breed. Her whole family is from
Speaker 2: the South. Yes, I don't give it. Sat on the
Speaker 2: Taylor and Beyonce saga because.
Speaker 5: And I don't like.
Speaker 3: Kanye and see I loved bless him Kane.
Speaker 7: Well, I love bits of cont I just want to say,
Speaker 7: I get your point, Mara, But the reality is Taylor
Speaker 7: Swift is a very very very influential white woman is influential?
Speaker 2: Word, Yes, it is, isn't it? Who is? I do
Speaker 2: appreciate that she does have a positive message. But by god,
Speaker 2: if you're a mailing you cross her your next album
Speaker 2: is about you. Happened on Mayor John May went on
Speaker 2: one date with her, then all of a sudden there
Speaker 2: was three songs released about it, and the little swifters
Speaker 2: went out and dragged this man because he broke Taylor's heart.
Speaker 2: Blessed Harry Stick. To be fair, he's a scumback he
Speaker 2: allegedly Look we're not allegedly.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, she didn't just get on bloody
Speaker 1: TikTok and become an influencer. She's been in the industry
Speaker 1: since she was fourteen. You know, give us some credibility.
Speaker 5: That she's worked her way to get to where she
Speaker 5: is in good honor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let me just say, if there was a
Speaker 2: black woman who took a DJ to court and won
Speaker 2: the court, she would be canceled within a heartbeat. Look
Speaker 2: what happened with Zalia Banks. Of course, all of a
Speaker 2: sudden she stood up for all of her beliefs, and
Speaker 2: the next minute she's ex from the music industry. So
Speaker 2: it's great to be Taylor. It's great to have a
Speaker 2: positive message a platform to do it. But when you're
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift because you're white and your privilege and you're rich,
Speaker 2: it makes sense why you're able to sue someone and say, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm just going to take a dollar off you though,
Speaker 2: because where you go bankrupt. But then you know, black
Speaker 2: actresses and people industry who aren't her don't get that
Speaker 2: same privilege, like what was that? What's the actress's name
Speaker 2: with the color purple? The yeah like that.
Speaker 3: Oh, now you're just complaining as soon as some dumb
Speaker 3: it's like, oh well what were you wearing?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So I just, I mean, I get both sides.
Speaker 2: So wait the questions, do we like Taylor Swift though?
Speaker 4: Mars?
Speaker 1: I just I want more people to do their own
Speaker 1: research and to look into people's lies before they judged,
Speaker 1: because I actually didn't know all of this until Tiger
Speaker 1: Lily was listening to her music and dancing with the
Speaker 1: friends and all I kept seeing on online. Right, when
Speaker 1: you think about it, it's white men who control our
Speaker 1: media rooms and media in general, and all of this
Speaker 1: hate coming towards a young female has also led us
Speaker 1: into how we think and think about her. So I
Speaker 1: think the media have got some something to do with
Speaker 1: how much hate we have because I was one of
Speaker 1: them that thought, oh, here we go again. The people
Speaker 1: were saying that, you know, they couldn't get a room.
Speaker 5: She drove Frances up and this traffic was this and
Speaker 5: I just hold a minute. How much money is.
Speaker 1: She bringing into Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne. The economy is benefiting
Speaker 1: everywhere she goes. The economy benefits because of her. Just
Speaker 1: do not name one of our islands after.
Speaker 5: Her, because that's not her.
Speaker 1: Hey, no, no, that's not her though, that's our Queensland government.
Speaker 3: Who's name after something that They were trying to name
Speaker 3: an island after her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to name it they Tay Tay. It's
Speaker 1: called vak is it Vak Island up in the wed Sundays.
Speaker 2: They're going to name it it dislike fault exactly.
Speaker 5: She has an arks for it.
Speaker 1: But they're thinking if we named an island after her,
Speaker 1: then she's going to come back here because of that
Speaker 1: and bring more people back into Queensland and we'll make
Speaker 1: more money into the local economy.
Speaker 5: That's not to me.
Speaker 1: You They should have engaged with her people before they
Speaker 1: went straight out there and said we're going to do this,
Speaker 1: and it's a big campaign at the moment, and I
Speaker 1: think we're going down a rabbit hole because they haven't
Speaker 1: engaged with any local mob to ak them first, which
Speaker 1: is normal with government.
Speaker 2: I don't even have to respond that we'll be back
Speaker 2: right after this break.
Speaker 8: I just wish I went to a concert now, can
Speaker 8: we just take Let's talk about the crowd that she
Speaker 8: pulled though, ninety five thousand people.
Speaker 2: It's the largest concert in Australia.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a young white girl, that's country music.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the fact that Jesse would know, the
Speaker 2: largest concert ever attended in the world. How many people
Speaker 2: attended that it was a free concert. It was a
Speaker 2: free concert three point six million people. And guess what
Speaker 2: country was Brazil? Yes, they know how to fucking party,
Speaker 2: the Brazilians. Have you seen Carnival and how they go
Speaker 2: on over there with oh we should go.
Speaker 5: Well, Carnival is definitely on peace and eyes.
Speaker 2: It's just so expensive is to get there? No, so
Speaker 2: you obviously no, it cloes Brazilian, right, So every time
Speaker 2: the Carnival comes up, we start watching it. And I
Speaker 2: didn't realize that the actual carnival parade there's only fifteen
Speaker 2: floats and it goes for fifteen hours, So these poor
Speaker 2: fifteen hours, but these poor performers are up there marching
Speaker 2: on this little shape I understand, shaken it around like
Speaker 2: it's no one's business for a full hour, and there's
Speaker 2: fifteen floats and it's like it's like a marathon of
Speaker 2: this carnival festive season.
Speaker 5: That's so who can who can shake their eys? Is
Speaker 5: the longest?
Speaker 2: Did you also know that there's one hour there's literally
Speaker 2: like one person one like usually it's a female performer
Speaker 2: who becomes like the grand darm of the carnival thing
Speaker 2: like it's it's it's like a religion over there. It's insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see a lot of money goes into
Speaker 1: the kind of art. Does a lot of money go
Speaker 1: back to the I know?
Speaker 2: But you look at the money they spent on these conferences,
Speaker 2: all these concerts, and about three point five million people
Speaker 2: to this concept.
Speaker 4: That's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, they are saying if they could find the right
Speaker 1: place they could hold that many people anywhere in the world,
Speaker 1: where would it be? And would Taylor Swift do a
Speaker 1: free concert? She holds the Guinness Book of Records.
Speaker 2: Did you know that for what record?
Speaker 5: She holds the Guinness Book of Records. Google it. Google
Speaker 5: it for mc clint.
Speaker 7: It.
Speaker 1: I swear my mom, she holds a world record in
Speaker 1: the Guinness Book.
Speaker 4: She does not marraget telling our producer Google clint.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So on that note, I am literally a swifty
Speaker 1: I will defend her till the cows come home, because
Speaker 1: she is a positive female and a positive role model
Speaker 1: to young women, and we need more of it. Whether
Speaker 1: they're black, white, yellow, poor, rich, I.
Speaker 2: Don't care, all right, so we clearly know that.
Speaker 5: Can I get an interview with you? I literally want
Speaker 5: to interview.
Speaker 2: Some gin who's your right to die? Then it's clearly
Speaker 2: Taylor's mars right to die around But how do you
Speaker 2: feel about her?
Speaker 5: Because Will just can't stand.
Speaker 2: No, I can't stand her. I just I just think
Speaker 2: she she epitomizes what I don't necessarily like about Western culture,
Speaker 2: the idolization of people like her. And it's not her fault.
Speaker 2: I don't think she's a bad person, and I think
Speaker 2: she's done pretty amazing things for this year. But it
Speaker 2: also like I'm like, could you imagine? And again, I'm
Speaker 2: a Beyonce fan, that's my right or die. But Beyonce's
Speaker 2: never one album of the year, and yet Renaissance was
Speaker 2: one of the best albums ever released in the fucking world,
Speaker 2: and yet she's never once she got beat by Harry Style.
Speaker 2: I don't like, how is that even fair? But it
Speaker 2: speaks to the whole issue. But anyway, who's your right
Speaker 2: or die? Gen? Like I want to tell you, like,
Speaker 2: I want this moment where I want to hear that
Speaker 2: my ride to die is probably Scissar?
Speaker 8: So wait, can we just see that Parks? Is it
Speaker 8: Caesar or is it Scissor Sissa?
Speaker 1: So you love this Scissor African American artist who just
Speaker 1: won or has won a few Grammys, and she's coming
Speaker 1: to Australia and we are going to see her.
Speaker 4: We are We're all going. I'm so excited.
Speaker 5: All right, just let's go back really quickly.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck it, okay, Tyler.
Speaker 1: She has earned one point zero four billion to date,
Speaker 1: so she has officially she's the highest grossing grossing music
Speaker 1: to ever, becoming the first to surpass one billion.
Speaker 5: Dollars Google her. She's got a lot there to be
Speaker 5: kind of proud of. Come on, girl power, just like
Speaker 5: Spice Girls to me.
Speaker 2: But this is not Spice Girls. Spy s Girls were
Speaker 2: a fucking game changer. Taylor Swith was built into privilege
Speaker 2: with a silver spin in the mouth, and she's capitalized
Speaker 2: on it all the more to your sists. But I'm bored, Taylor.
Speaker 2: I'm so over you. You need to.
Speaker 3: Be really careful well because they Hey, listen, I'm going
Speaker 3: to directly speak to you, Swifter.
Speaker 2: You do what you can, even swift right out of
Speaker 2: my way because I ain't interested you. I'm not hating.
Speaker 2: If you say haters gonna hate, I'm going to call
Speaker 2: you the new South Wales commissioner because that for me
Speaker 2: is just too much. It's too it's not even a thing.
Speaker 5: Okay, So you're right to die now, Taylor, I am
Speaker 5: a swiftie. Put it on my Facebook yesterday.
Speaker 2: Girl, give me, give me the name. Two of her songs,
Speaker 2: shake it Off.
Speaker 5: Another one it's the love song Story.
Speaker 2: What's one of the albums called What's.
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: What's one of her albums called Look?
Speaker 5: I haven't digged into that side.
Speaker 2: Of but Bobby, you've gone down that dar out you
Speaker 2: know her.
Speaker 5: I told you why. I thought this young girl needs
Speaker 5: to be young girl. She is thirty, she's old as me.
Speaker 2: I think young.
Speaker 4: She looks young.
Speaker 5: Is she really thirty five?
Speaker 4: Yeah, nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 2: That's one of her albums.
Speaker 4: That's one of her albums.
Speaker 5: Well, I do know that she was born on December thirteen.
Speaker 2: You know why.
Speaker 1: I had to learn that so I can join her
Speaker 1: fan group on Facebook.
Speaker 4: You have not done that.
Speaker 5: I have.
Speaker 2: Look, it doesn't surprise me. Mara as good at establishing groups.
Speaker 2: What was that group?
Speaker 5: She's country fucking the Country Western Club? He had three
Speaker 5: hundred Country Club member.
Speaker 2: Mara is going to start the Black Black the Black
Speaker 2: Swifters group. You should do that. I've got a friend
Speaker 2: of mine who loves Taylors Blackfellow. She'll be there, right
Speaker 2: there with you.
Speaker 1: I grew up in a country music household, black fellows
Speaker 1: and country. We know here in Australia we've we've grown
Speaker 1: up with country.
Speaker 5: Music, Rightney. I can't stand it. I know, I remember that.
Speaker 2: I've already talked about it. I couldn't.
Speaker 3: Well, we know Mara is a fan of anything country,
Speaker 3: so it's no surprise that you now. I had no choice.
Speaker 1: I know, but I've only turned into swifty because of
Speaker 1: more of the girl power positive role models for my
Speaker 1: young daughters.
Speaker 2: She looked to you Maa and and all the other elders.
Speaker 2: He's not Taylor Swift, Honey. Taylor's look good for you, sissy,
Speaker 2: But I would not want my kids taken any notes
Speaker 2: from you, ma because.
Speaker 6: For me.
Speaker 3: So we go to and you tell the jobs get
Speaker 3: that and get helped get locked up.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: Okay, So this isfully Taylor comes and we are well, we've.
Speaker 1: Had such a good yarn about it. I could not
Speaker 1: wait to have this yarn about Taylor Swift. She has
Speaker 1: taken up a lot of our time and I'm okay
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 2: So wait, are we going to ask you to come
Speaker 2: on the show? Then just ask.
Speaker 4: Email?
Speaker 2: Is it like, is it like a Swift hot line
Speaker 2: that we can call him?
Speaker 8: Like, hey, hey, where Swift is from Sydney or Brisbane?
Speaker 4: Well we have a swiftye Oh we don't need anymore.
Speaker 5: I'm it. I'm representing the whole Swift nation.
Speaker 2: I would just suggest maybe learn two or three of
Speaker 2: our albums, maybe four before you go reached out to
Speaker 2: a team.
Speaker 5: Well, her boyfriend plays NFL. Okay, and what's his name?
Speaker 5: He's a chief redskin chief.
Speaker 3: No Kansas Chiefs, Kansas City chiefs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what's his name. It's an American name. It's
Speaker 5: a very, it's a very like easy white. It's a
Speaker 5: white name, and nothing wrong with names. Hey, he's got
Speaker 5: a podcast, just got a podcast.
Speaker 2: We should get him on there.
Speaker 5: And do you know what him on?
Speaker 1: They have like literally, Taylor Swift has brought a whole
Speaker 1: new audience and following to NFL and in particular his team,
Speaker 1: So they should be thankful for her too.
Speaker 4: I think they are.
Speaker 2: I think they're very like, let's talk about that for
Speaker 2: one second, because you are right, good on for bringing
Speaker 2: an audience to the bloody what do you.
Speaker 4: Call it NFL?
Speaker 2: Whatever, But let's look at the plane that she flew over.
Speaker 2: So what happened with that plane? Gin? She got dragged
Speaker 2: for that plane, right, So doing God's work with all
Speaker 2: the young people. But God, she's not doing much for
Speaker 2: the environment, is she. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, there's a lot, I mean carbon footprint and
Speaker 3: admissions the jet. Well, I understand, like Taylor Swift, she
Speaker 3: can't just fly commercial.
Speaker 2: Because it's gonna Taylor Swift, it's going.
Speaker 4: To cause an issue. But Travis Kelcey, Oh so.
Speaker 2: That's his name, markge did you have.
Speaker 5: Told you it was like an American name Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 3: Her man flew to Australia for like what forty eight
Speaker 3: hours maybe I think it was forty eight.
Speaker 5: Sent her jet back to the US to pick him up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so she sent the jets. She sent the jet
Speaker 4: to pick him up.
Speaker 3: He came back, then he dropped, then she dropped him
Speaker 3: back in Vegas.
Speaker 2: She jumped in the plane, flew him back, then come.
Speaker 5: Back and then.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so.
Speaker 3: Like, no one knows who Travis Kelsey is. He wasn't
Speaker 3: gonna if he could.
Speaker 2: NFL, they would have known it was him. But like
Speaker 2: he could have flown commercial because he's not like he's.
Speaker 4: He's gonna be Taylor. They had a police escort and everything.
Speaker 5: Okay, well that's I'm not okay with that.
Speaker 4: Well do you draw the line there.
Speaker 1: I'm still swifty, but not enough to go. She's literally
Speaker 1: not worth us yarning about. I think we still should
Speaker 1: let people know that she does some good things.
Speaker 5: Of course, we're not all perfect.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, we do our best. Some of us
Speaker 1: do better than others, obviously, obviously. Okay, So look, Pink,
Speaker 1: you said Pink.
Speaker 2: I think Pink. I think Pink is a much better
Speaker 2: example of female empowerment, proper authenticity, her story she grew
Speaker 2: up in like a trailer park, because it's a very
Speaker 2: different scenario to Taylor, and both incredible in their own right.
Speaker 2: But if I was looking to idolize or model my child,
Speaker 2: or have a role model for my young female, I
Speaker 2: think Pink would be more my option.
Speaker 1: Just like one role model for something like Tagler, we
Speaker 1: need hundreds of role models for younger And I'm just
Speaker 1: saying when young girls get online, they go on TikTok,
Speaker 1: they go on YouTube.
Speaker 5: I'm not on there, and a lot of.
Speaker 3: Us Sorry, sorry, are you actually choking?
Speaker 2: What the hell? Sorry? Lord? Sorry, you keep that.
Speaker 4: For later.
Speaker 2: Sorry saying I just.
Speaker 1: Said she's a good role My daughter's online, she's consuming content,
Speaker 1: and I'm happy that she's a swiftye.
Speaker 3: I love you, and if you love Taylor, then I
Speaker 3: love you.
Speaker 5: It's not going to change our relationships.
Speaker 3: I love the music and listen, I I'll drive my
Speaker 3: Yesterday I took my nieces out for the afternoon and
Speaker 3: we played a lot of Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: They love.
Speaker 4: We've watched the Errors Tour movie or whatever, twenty.
Speaker 3: Five dollars for thirty days, which is wild, but anyway,
Speaker 3: we love Taylor in the house, but I yeah, I
Speaker 3: kind of agree with I think they are.
Speaker 4: Probably I prefer them to look up someone.
Speaker 5: Like you care or you know.
Speaker 2: Then what I will say, Taylor's very good at a
Speaker 2: good one liner. So whenever I'm having a bad day,
Speaker 2: might just have a Taylor Swift moment and shake it off.
Speaker 2: Oh that's cute, So let's shake this episode off.
Speaker 4: Let's be dumb. Taylor's Mara loves Taylor.
Speaker 5: Well, what about Taylor listeners?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 5: I would love to know from our listeners.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter whether you're you know, a black,
Speaker 1: fil white fella, queen fellow, who cares how you identify.
Speaker 1: But do you like Taylor Swift?
Speaker 2: And why?
Speaker 5: Why? And if you don't like her?
Speaker 1: And that's okay as well, but it'd be good to
Speaker 1: hear from some of our listeners. Now, what's your thoughts
Speaker 1: about Taylor Swift? And do you know enough for you
Speaker 1: to make that judgment or that do you have an
Speaker 1: informed opinion? Are you just going by what the media
Speaker 1: is presenting to us, which is not the full picture.
Speaker 1: I really think she's been given a hard time.
Speaker 2: Look, we've covered this. This horse is dead dull. We're
Speaker 2: beating that stick. Taylor. We love you some more than others.
Speaker 5: I guess all right, we'll BEYONCEY.
Speaker 8: Be careful, no, I will cut.
Speaker 5: No listen. I must say.
Speaker 1: Watching Beyonce's daughter step into her you know, young womanhood
Speaker 1: up on stage with her dad recently the Grammys, he said,
Speaker 1: come up, and she could see how shy she was
Speaker 1: and it was going to be a big moment for her.
Speaker 1: She probably knew how big the moment is because she's
Speaker 1: been all of the concerts, but this is the Grammys
Speaker 1: and her dad's going upstage and she gets to stand
Speaker 1: there with him. I just thought what he said in
Speaker 1: front of his daughter and to the rest of the
Speaker 1: world and to his wife and watching beyond cry she.
Speaker 2: Should have one album of the year, that she should
Speaker 2: have that album for me.
Speaker 4: So is this Yanna a little bit touch?
Speaker 5: Yes? We love Beyonce.
Speaker 1: I'm a big Beyonce fan, don't you get me wrong.
Speaker 1: And I love the fact now that she's breaking records
Speaker 1: as the first black woman to be on the billboards
Speaker 1: in country number one, first black woman, and.
Speaker 3: I think it's I think she is the only black
Speaker 3: artist to be pop like pop Billboard and Country Billboard
Speaker 3: because Tracy Chapman just was the first black woman I
Speaker 3: think who was who's one of grummy for country music.
Speaker 1: And the only reason why she won it bless is
Speaker 1: that this recently because that white guy brought the song
Speaker 1: back out Luke Holmes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that white So let's close this episode out.
Speaker 3: Thanks everyone for listening to this episode. And if you're
Speaker 3: an awkward exit, and if you did.
Speaker 5: Send me videos and photos.
Speaker 2: I want to see many videos send.
Speaker 5: It to me. I'm jealous. I wish I would have went,
Speaker 5: and I wish it would have taken Tiger Lily.
Speaker 2: I will say it did look like a pretty fun experience,
Speaker 2: just to say you've been all concert with ninety thousand people.
Speaker 2: Austral doesn't pull those type of crowds. But Taylor's done it,
Speaker 2: so I will pay, but fun. I'm not paying this
Speaker 2: process to watch.
Speaker 7: It looks incredible, not as good as our product, you know, Hey, clan.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to end with this three and a
Speaker 1: half hours, forty four songs, ten sets, girl and.
Speaker 2: Look she wasn't like like Lauren Hill.
Speaker 5: Wash she let's not talking about Laurence Hill. Hey, I'm
Speaker 5: going to start listening to music. I'll make sure Tiger
Speaker 5: video Volume Mom.
Speaker 7: Love you, Lisa, Thanks for listening to Unapologetically Black.
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