1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Christ Yeah, welcome friends to the Christian o'connells show podcast. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Jennifer is a sign of second weekend in Lockdown. But 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: yesterday me and my two teenage daughters managed to get 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: into an argument about how recently I've stopped using a 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: knife when I'm having dinner with them. What do you 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: mean I've switched to go and spoon and fork? Right, 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: because spoon for dinner? Spoon and fork you're eating a soup? No, No, 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm now Like yesterday I made this homemade bread and 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: chicken with parmesan and we had cold swaw with it 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: in some hot chips. I'm quite happy using a spoon 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 1: and sniffle. Yeah, easily, I can use it, now, tell 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: you what. Also, it's a more effective like the knife 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: once it's done shopping stuff up. The knife is pedestrian, 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: whereas the spoon and fork can both be very active 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: together there. I feel they're more of a stronger sort 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: of combination than the knight than the knife and the form. 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: So what are you using the cut the side of a. 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: Fork, solo fork or the very sharp side of a spoon. 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: You must have sharp spoons at your house, No wonders 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: describes at the side of it's. 21 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Got a very strong grip. Jack, I could just press 22 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: down and break up then the chicken breast. 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: True, the knife only does one thing, yes, but it's 24 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: a useful thing because you need your food cut up. 25 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: So we start asking about arguing about knife, spoon, fork. 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: One of them has to go. So imagine we have 27 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: to get rid of one of them, right, because the 28 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: country draw is just a mess in our house. 29 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: Spoon goes no way, Yes, spoon goes well, you're gonna 30 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: have your cereal with no Well, I guess, I guess 31 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: you don't. 32 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: Have a spoon is more essential service than the knife. 33 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: You could your knife steak. You'll never eat a steak. 34 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: Then you have your best friend, the state knife. He 35 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: comes out for bigger or the other. 36 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:38,639 Speaker 2: Get rid of the knives. 37 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, not the steak. State knife has to stay, but 38 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: the other's sort of what I call Monday to Friday ones. 39 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: You can all leave. They're not doing enough. 40 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: What about buttering bread? 41 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: Spoon can do that. 42 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: No spoon can. 43 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: Let me demonstrate this now, my hand like a paw 44 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: is the spoon, but I'm scooping it like I would 45 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: a JCB digger, scoop it up. 46 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 2: Okay, into the concave section and. 47 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: Then I just reverse it and he used that nice 48 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: sort of con cave back to smooth out the butter. 49 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: How did the butter get from inside the spoons outside 50 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: the spy? 51 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: You fold the bread in half and you scoop it 52 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: out between get a knife, but tweets thumb and finger, 53 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: and then you go back to mister spoon. He's being 54 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: used again, and you just smooth it out that way 55 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: like the back of a trout. Really, maybe the. 56 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: Fork is not needed then, because the spoon the spoon. 57 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: You need a knife definitely for buttering and for cutting. 58 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: It's quite savage of fork is just simply jabbing at food. 59 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: You can eat a steak with a spoon and a knife. 60 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: It looks straight restaurant. 61 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to throw this open knife spoon fork. One 62 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: has to go. 63 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: Who you getting spoons out? 64 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: Wow? 65 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: I'm sad about cereal, but it has to go because 66 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: knough and fork are too essential. 67 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: Knife can go for me. Okay, what do you think 68 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: you're listening to the question know Kyle's show podcast. This 69 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: is what it's like to being locked down with teenage daughters. 70 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: Before we even got arguing about knife spoon fork. We've 71 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: been oh sorry, they've been arguing. I've been just trying 72 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: to be like a Buddha and not bite or get involved. 73 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: They thought it was very unfair, very very unfair that 74 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: they're expected to help out with household chores, and I 75 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: just laugh, going, yeah, of course you think that doesn't 76 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: mean I need to listen to it. I'm sure it 77 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: does feel unfair and get on with it. 78 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: Which ones do? They have? The classics? 79 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: For us? 80 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: As kids were loading and unloading the dishwasher, and that's 81 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: probably about it. 82 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: I've tried to get them to do the washing, but 83 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: that was a nightmare. They were deliberately shrinking my clothes. 84 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: What a great way to get out of that shore 85 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: by ruining my stuff. And it was only ever my stuff. 86 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: I noticed on the drive. 87 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: They didn't go for the ol from the family, my wife. 88 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: It was just let's pick on him, let's take him 89 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: out first. He's low hanging through. So yeah, they were 90 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: doing the old thing and one of them said this classic. 91 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: Do you ever say this? Two parents? I didn't ask 92 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: to be born. Now I'm expected to do with these chawes. 93 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: But anyway, then they were we were sittting down to 94 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: have something to eat. And I don't know about you, 95 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: but the best thing the word we're having to dinner 96 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: is to eat it on your lap, isn't it? Yes, 97 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: we eat whenever they have friends around. I always make up. Oh, 98 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: we're just doing this. This is a one off, not 99 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: only at the table, and we're talking about philosophy and poetry. 100 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: It's very rare that we just eat. I like savages 101 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: off our laps, staring at the TV, not talking to 102 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: each other. So I recently haven't been using a knife. 103 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: I will eat with the family, but I will now 104 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: use spoon and. 105 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: Fur Let me guess. Is it just for so there's 106 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: less things to wash up? Because I do like I 107 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: actually do like that, trying to be essential and not 108 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: use as many things. If I can reuse a plate 109 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 2: or not even use a plate, yes, but the knife 110 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: is essential in cutlery. I think you can get rid 111 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: of the spoon. 112 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: By the way. Pro tip if you weren't even a 113 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,559 Speaker 1: streamline as well when you use when the dishwasher is done, 114 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: don't ble or unpack it. Just start using that. Now 115 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: it's a new cutlery. I do that one. 116 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: I try to get away nuts. 117 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: I just use it's a cutlery drawer and just go 118 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: and take stuff from it and use it then rather 119 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: than I'm backing it. 120 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: Then I get in trouble for because I've taken half 121 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: of the stuff out of it. And is this clean 122 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: or is it not clean? I can't tell me now chaos. 123 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: All right, knife spoon fork one has to go. I'm 124 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: saying the knife can go, it's overrated. 125 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: I'm saying the spoon can go. The fork can do 126 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: a lot of heavy lifting that the spoon can do. 127 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: But together, think about the spoon and fork together. Whatever 128 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: you're having, you can shoven it up quicker and easier. 129 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: But you can't cut anything. 130 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: Of course you can. You've got the sides of the 131 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: fork which can be a blade, and also the side 132 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: of the spoon can easily be a blade. 133 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: A blade is a better blade and the blade is 134 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: a knife. 135 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: Wow, this is profound. All right, let's go into lines. 136 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: Let's go to Frank morning, Frank morning. How I'm good, Frank, 137 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: hope you had a good weekend. Knife spoon fork which 138 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: one goes. 139 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: Has to be fork for to be for? Yeah, Well, 140 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: I mean where our work we are use a knife 141 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 3: and a spoon for some reason, all the forks are 142 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: bringing disappear. So we've bought a necessity. We have to 143 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: use a spoon and a knife, and it works fine, 144 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 3: works brilliantly. 145 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: We're not even know how to use cutlery here are we? 146 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not joking, Frank. They don't let's do 147 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: a radio show, but they will not let us use cutlery. 148 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: Have the start of COVID, they took away all mugs 149 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: or cutlery and taped up the dish washer. 150 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: It takes up the dishwasher and as you know, very 151 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: hard to break sell tape. It's the strongest thing in 152 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: the world. All right, Frank, thanks for weighing in on 153 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: this big topic this morning. 154 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 3: No worries, lou my morning. 155 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: I currently have someone in my home. 156 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 3: Who proves the don't use the knife theory. My daughter 157 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: and lauris from Russia. Her and my son are visiting 158 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: at the moment, and they don't use the knife. 159 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: Who knew a country without rich history they've turned away 160 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: from the knife. Peutin, you go, oun Peugee, there'll be 161 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: no knife, and you don't bring it up. Okay, you 162 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: do not bring that up. 163 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: I know she's got you know her habits, and that's 164 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: just the way it is, so like. 165 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: A true mother and I. He's got his way of 166 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: doing things, not necessarily my way. 167 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: Are you sure you want to marry somebody who doesn't? 168 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: It's a red flag for me. 169 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: I constantly hear that's not how it's done in Russia. 170 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: Do you know what I might if I start using 171 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: that to people when they go that seems disgusting. You 172 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: just eat with your hands? Well, my people in Russia, 173 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: of course, Okay, I don't want to offend anyone. I 174 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: use the Russian system myself when it comes to die. 175 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: That's a great one, though. 176 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: How does how does she cut something that's very hard 177 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: to cut into? 178 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: Look, if there is something that absolutely has to be 179 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: cut up. 180 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: She pulls out one of the really sharp norms and 181 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: pulls out feel like she's got it in a handbag. 182 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: We have these to cut us. It's a bates in 183 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: my land. Any wander around. 184 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: Everywhere when that's don't eat it, there's no knife. 185 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: Amazing, we learned something new only on today's show. This 186 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: is great. Thanks for dropping that knowledge there. You have 187 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: good a week, Take care, bye, Mitchell. Hey, yeah, I'm good. 188 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: Knife spoon fork. Which one we kicking out? 189 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: Spoon? 190 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? 191 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,119 Speaker 3: And I only goes with breakfast, not dinner. 192 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: You can't use the spirit for dinner, you can. 193 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: You think about coal saw. I was shoveling up coal 194 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: saw so much more effectively with a spoon yesterday on 195 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: my plate, not chip. You'll eat shovel. Shove your shovel. 196 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: You're going to eat all your sides. But how are 197 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: you getting into the main dish? Just little your steak 198 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: side of the fork. 199 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: Quite easy to chop up a chicken. 200 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: I trudge use a fork a couple of days ago 201 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: to cut up a chicken bread and it would Yeah. 202 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: Okay, well listen, when we get out of lockdown, I'm 203 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: going to come around, I'll give you a live demonstration, Mitchell. Okay, 204 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: you've got to go in at a certain angle. It's 205 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: like when their ladies were entering the pool yesterday. It's 206 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: all about the angle that they got in that pool, Surrey. Mind. 207 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: You know you what you're at risk out, Christian is 208 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: when you applying all that pressure downward pressure, you're going 209 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: to need to cut into a steak. You push your 210 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: plate too hard, you peas fall off the side. 211 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: Who is eating the peace? 212 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: Peace. 213 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: If you're not nine hundred years. 214 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: A week, we still eat peace. 215 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: Wow, hipster peace, I Gray Mitchell spoon must go. All right, Mitchell, 216 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: thanks you com I have a good week. Don. Good 217 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: morning guys, Good morning Don. What do you reckon? 218 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: I reckon the forecast to go? 219 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: Mate. 220 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: It's pretty obvious choice when you think about it, going 221 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: back to medieval days. You know it was all about hands, 222 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: spoons for your broth and the rest of it. You know, 223 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: like if you couldn't cut it up, you just shovel 224 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: it in your math with your hands. 225 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: Come on, simple, see first that you make it just 226 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: a strong case for your hands. We've gone from being 227 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: that Russia to now going back to the dunk times 228 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: and medieval times. 229 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: Who trust a Russian with a knife, honestly? 230 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: All right, Don, thank you very much. You cool now 231 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: worry saying The Christian O'Connell Show podcast