WEBVTT - The Equity Irk

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yr

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<v Speaker 1>the Order Kerni Whoalbury and a waddery woman. And before

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<v Speaker 1>we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land

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<v Speaker 1>of which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country,

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming

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<v Speaker 1>through as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing

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<v Speaker 1>and the storytelling of you to make a difference for

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<v Speaker 1>today and lasting impact for tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>She's on the Money. She's on the Money.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to She's on the the podcast for

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<v Speaker 2>millennials who want financial freedom. Today, guys, it is Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>which means it is time to get our little team

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<v Speaker 2>together and celebrate you our incredible She's on the Money

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<v Speaker 2>community today, Miss Gried. She is going to be sharing

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<v Speaker 2>with us some money wins. We're going to be helping

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<v Speaker 2>answer a juicy money dilemma which this week is all

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<v Speaker 2>about unexpected funeral costs, and we're going to be unpacking

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<v Speaker 2>something that you slid into our DMS about this week.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be having a chat about whether equity

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<v Speaker 2>should be applied in friendships.

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<v Speaker 4>That made people angry. It made me so mad.

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<v Speaker 2>In our DMS, I was like, usually the like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>community DM that we address on the pod is it's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit spicy. It's always like a little bit like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to like publicly ask the question, so

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<v Speaker 2>you slide into our DMS so that you can get

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<v Speaker 2>kind of an anonymous response this one. But you're glad

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<v Speaker 2>you slid into our DMS and the response you're anonymous

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<v Speaker 2>because there are some people coming for it, like they

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<v Speaker 2>were coming for us, and we just asked the question.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even say we had an opinion on it

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<v Speaker 2>at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you see?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a lot, But I also feel like this

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<v Speaker 2>week has been a lot. How's your week been back,

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<v Speaker 2>what's you've been up to?

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<v Speaker 4>I really liked this week.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually sorry, I had a bit of whiplash because you know,

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<v Speaker 6>there's the weekend and then you go back to work

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<v Speaker 6>and then there's another weekend. Yeah, there should be immediate

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<v Speaker 6>it's a half weekend. Yeah, it's a half weekend immediately

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<v Speaker 6>after you start working.

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<v Speaker 4>A public holidays on Mondays or Fridays only.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with that that should be exactly. But I

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<v Speaker 2>mean Anzac Day is really important. I mean it's important

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<v Speaker 2>to me, so I think that we should celebrate it

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<v Speaker 2>on the right day. But the government should be nice

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<v Speaker 2>and just have given us Monday off as well, exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't hate that, honestly, because I think it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good for morale. Our engagement would increase. We know

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<v Speaker 2>what happens when people are engaged, they produce fifty percent

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<v Speaker 2>higher shareholder return. In that government give us four days off?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeap? How could you say no?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly? So what else did you do? You had whiplash

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<v Speaker 2>and had whiplash.

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<v Speaker 5>On Tuesday?

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<v Speaker 6>I saw our producer live and Alisa Live and Lisa

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<v Speaker 6>she's actually going to be famous one day, like really famous.

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<v Speaker 6>I think she's pretty famous definitely. Where you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>from Brunswick area. Everyone knows it. Everyone knows she's got

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<v Speaker 6>her own radio show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's a big deal, A big deal, the biggest deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Brunswick. Without thinking of the garage party, like I

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<v Speaker 4>just that's all we do there.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know why they had the garage party because

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<v Speaker 2>Analysa was playing No just celebrate Analisa. Yeah, when Viral

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<v Speaker 2>and Aalisa was playing there.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't know.

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<v Speaker 5>She's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll put a link to her stuff in our show

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<v Speaker 2>notes this week so you can creep on her, because

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like everybody needs to know who she is.

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<v Speaker 2>She's the person that if you go to as she's

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<v Speaker 2>on the money event, you like, look across the room,

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<v Speaker 2>woman in the pink Sparkley suit. Yep, that's Analisa. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you do want to meet her.

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<v Speaker 5>Beautiful, she's really hot.

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<v Speaker 2>It just my favorite part about this whole conversation is

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<v Speaker 2>she's currently in the room and she's so uncomfortable. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>Take the love you deserve it. She's also taken and

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<v Speaker 6>run a person, So we love this. Yeah that's true,

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<v Speaker 6>all right, I mean what can't you do?

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, there's not one thing that we've

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<v Speaker 2>asked her to do that she hasn't done.

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<v Speaker 5>No, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Wild. Let me move on though, because she's she's suitably uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 5>Suitably I just feel uncomfortable with her uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's great, Miss Jessicricci. How's your week being.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been good, just a normal week for me this week,

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<v Speaker 4>enjoying the sunshine and along popping along. I had a

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<v Speaker 4>rental inspection this week. That's hot, yep, really fun. That's

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<v Speaker 4>about us.

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<v Speaker 2>Really they say that they were tripling your rent because

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's what's happening to everybody who has

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<v Speaker 2>a rental inspection at the moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, thankfully they can't envy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're in the first twelve months of your lease

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, so it's just to make sure we haven't ruined

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<v Speaker 4>the place, which we haven't not yet, two thumbs up.

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<v Speaker 2>Not yet. And they didn't find all the stuff you

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<v Speaker 2>hed no no yet studying all right. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>know what's been going on with our community. Jess. What

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<v Speaker 2>are the money wins and confessions that you've round up

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<v Speaker 2>this week for us?

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<v Speaker 4>My first money win this week comes from Tanzen, who

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<v Speaker 4>said money win. I desperately wanted to join in on

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<v Speaker 4>the frank green water bottle trend, but I could not

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<v Speaker 4>justify the price for myself until I was scrolling on

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<v Speaker 4>Facebook Marketplace and saw a chick advertising the exact one

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<v Speaker 4>for thirty five dollars brand new. After she was gifted

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<v Speaker 4>two for her birthday. I have officially joined the emotional

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<v Speaker 4>support water bottle trend.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty five dollars. It's a good deal.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know how much does they cost?

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<v Speaker 2>Usually about sixty fifty nine ninety five.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, still a lot of money for a water bottle.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Kmart does a good dupe.

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<v Speaker 5>Nine dollars, little SYSTEMA plastic water bottle.

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<v Speaker 2>Is nothing better than an insulated water bottle. I'll have

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<v Speaker 2>to try it one day as a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a water top. Update for those of you playing along

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<v Speaker 2>at home, my Stanley drink bottle has arrived. I am

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<v Speaker 2>in love with it. It is bigger than my head.

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<v Speaker 5>I am huge the whole table.

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<v Speaker 2>It's peach. She's stunny. And jessic Ricci has bought me two,

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<v Speaker 2>not one, but two drink mixes this week. She bought

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<v Speaker 2>me the green Apple and the cherry flavored Jolly Rancher

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<v Speaker 2>drink mix, which I think is just no no, And

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what, I have absolutely no face that

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to taste any good because they are one.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like cherry flavor, so apologies. Yes, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, Jess, you knew that when you purchased that

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<v Speaker 2>didn't you.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, gonna be good content, to be good

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<v Speaker 4>content she.

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<v Speaker 2>Wants me to. I feel like it's just going to

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<v Speaker 2>taste like cough medicine and the green apple flavor. Very

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<v Speaker 2>excited to try it, but they're sugar free and I

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<v Speaker 2>do not enjoy artificial flavors Like I just artificial sweetener

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<v Speaker 2>needs to get in the bin.

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<v Speaker 5>I cannot get my head out after taste.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we'll see, we'll see, but I will film

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<v Speaker 2>that content because I love watertalk.

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<v Speaker 4>Very niche for anyone else who's on the same type

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<v Speaker 4>of TikTok as you can't relate.

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<v Speaker 2>I keep sending videos of water talk to Jess. If

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<v Speaker 2>this is making no sense to you, you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>it to make sense to but I keep sending them

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<v Speaker 2>to Jests so that she will also end up on

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<v Speaker 2>watertok It's kind of like ruining her feed from.

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<v Speaker 4>My side of the take in her life. Speaking of water,

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<v Speaker 4>my next money is from Alisha, who said our washing

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<v Speaker 4>machine wasn't working and it kept saying check the filter.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't even know the filter was empty. I was hesitant

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<v Speaker 4>about calling someone to fix it, as I knew it

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<v Speaker 4>would probably be expensive and I didn't know if I

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<v Speaker 4>would need a plumber or an appliance technician. My partner

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<v Speaker 4>was catching up with one of his mates who happens

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<v Speaker 4>to be a plumber, so I made him ask his

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<v Speaker 4>mate for some tips. It was a simple fix and

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<v Speaker 4>we now have a working washing machine for zero doll

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<v Speaker 4>It's how good life win. My next one comes from

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<v Speaker 4>Goji who said money win. Local Yoga was closed for

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<v Speaker 4>renovations and they are now offering free unlimited classes for

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<v Speaker 4>the first week and I will seven classes for free.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, seven taking it to the nth degree.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that. You gotta respect it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like when seven to eleven has those days where

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<v Speaker 2>they say bring your own container and you can have

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<v Speaker 2>as much slurpy as you.

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<v Speaker 4>Really used to love that as a Kiddo's.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry wild, but like, where's where's the line? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>where's the line. I'll bring my Stanley cup. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that's the line. That's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 5>Not big enough.

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<v Speaker 4>We did a mixing bowl once, me and my brother.

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<v Speaker 4>We shared it to be fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you shared it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I've seen people with those gallon water things,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, from like the water fountains where they like

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<v Speaker 2>tip it upside down and then just like ruin the

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<v Speaker 2>environment with their fake filtered water, Like that's arguably a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit irresponsible, but that's okay. But I've seen people

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<v Speaker 2>take those and get that filled with slurpy.

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<v Speaker 4>Slurpy on tap. Could I do the dream, the absolute dream?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we should buy a slurpy machine for the offers.

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<v Speaker 2>I would actually tip there are a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>that we want in this office that we probably shouldn't purchase.

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<v Speaker 4>Our office if we just let ourselves buy the things

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<v Speaker 4>that we wanted, would look like it was designed by

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<v Speaker 4>a six year old. There'd be slides, swings, they'd be slurpy.

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<v Speaker 4>It would just be ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sorry for that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not even sorry. I have no regrets, no regrets.

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<v Speaker 4>My next money when came from Tina, who said, just

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<v Speaker 4>found out that you can go to your local council,

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<v Speaker 4>take your rates notice and get two free native trees.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all the information that I have. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if it's every local counselor please tease still on your.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you give us some more information, Tina?

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<v Speaker 5>But I thought that's a good tip, like.

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<v Speaker 4>Jump on your local council website. Two free trees, but

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<v Speaker 4>also local.

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<v Speaker 2>Count always have good stuff going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they ever marketed.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never I'd never hear about this.

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<v Speaker 2>They probably sometimes budget let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 5>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think it's changing. But a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>government or local government teams generally are made up of

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<v Speaker 4>more mature people and so they're not as tech savy

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of the time. So they are market Like

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<v Speaker 4>I see flyers and stuff sometimes that's not reaching the

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<v Speaker 4>people that's got to reach, like stapled to the telephone pole.

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<v Speaker 4>No one's looking at the help.

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<v Speaker 2>The telephone pole or the community noticeboard at coles. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like the one that you kind of like awkwardly glance

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<v Speaker 2>at as you're going out of the self checked out. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Not all council people are old, but they should hire

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<v Speaker 4>more young people. That's what I'm saying, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 4>Moving right along, Please don't come for me. My next

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<v Speaker 4>money when comes from Kim who said, sold my daughter's

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<v Speaker 4>cot for the price of what it would have cost

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<v Speaker 4>me to upgrade her to a single bit love a

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<v Speaker 4>cost neutral upgrade, And I was like, I just love

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<v Speaker 4>the term cost neutral.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we are taking that and running with it. This

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<v Speaker 2>is this is where my head went because you said

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<v Speaker 2>don't hate me. But I now realize that was in

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<v Speaker 2>relation to your last comment. I just thought that Kim

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<v Speaker 2>had sold her kids cop before her kid was done

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<v Speaker 2>with it. Money. We now my kids sleep's on the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine, very monty sorrow, very fancy, very fancy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on that side of TikTok.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're on every side of TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>I live on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 5>Well that's okay, no judgment over here.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all why money wins for the week. So should

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<v Speaker 4>we take a quick break so it can get a

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<v Speaker 4>TikTok fixed?

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<v Speaker 5>She's shaking, She's literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Not even mad. Do you want to see this TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>of this guy who dances and takes best stop?

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<v Speaker 5>We don't have any choice, so let's do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back, everybody. Let's jump into this week's money dilemma.

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<v Speaker 8>Hi, and She's on the Money. I have a money dilemma.

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<v Speaker 8>Last year, my father sadly passed away and I needed

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<v Speaker 8>to pay three thousand dollars of my savings a four

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<v Speaker 8>costs involved with chromation and the funeral home. Now, I

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<v Speaker 8>am expected of my family to purchase a plot and headstone.

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<v Speaker 8>And while I loved my father, I am not a

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<v Speaker 8>higher earner and struggling with these unexpected costs. Does She's

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<v Speaker 8>on the Money have any advice on how to pay

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<v Speaker 8>for these unexpected costs and how to get any kind

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<v Speaker 8>of funding. I live in Australia and I am paying

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<v Speaker 8>these costs in New Zealand and I'm wondering if I

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<v Speaker 8>could even get some kind of a rebate, whither through

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<v Speaker 8>its GST or a tax time.

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<v Speaker 4>Firstly, I just want to say I'm really sorry that

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<v Speaker 4>you're going through this. That's a really tough thing to

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<v Speaker 4>deal with it in and of itself, dealing with a

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<v Speaker 4>loss with then having a financial burden on top of that,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm shocked at how much it costs to be

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<v Speaker 4>cremated three thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never thought about the cost before now if I'm

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<v Speaker 4>being honest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look, it's a lot of money, and I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it makes sense when you think about it. In Australia

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<v Speaker 2>and in New Zealand, it is like kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>restricted thing. You can't just turn up and become cremated,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there has to be a death certificate and a

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<v Speaker 2>whole process behind it, right, I know because my mother

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<v Speaker 2>actually worked in the death industry for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Here in Australia are the total funeral costs of a

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<v Speaker 2>traditional burial, this is just me reading from the Australian

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<v Speaker 2>Bureau of Statistics website can average between seven thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen thousand dollars, while here in Australia, a cremation can

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<v Speaker 2>cost anywhere between three thousand and just seven thousand dollars. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>these figures can go even higher depending on like your

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<v Speaker 2>local cemetery fees and like regulations and stuff, because there

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<v Speaker 2>are different regulations that are involved, so these fees they

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<v Speaker 2>usually cover what be deemed to be quote the essentials,

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<v Speaker 2>so things like logistics, so you need to move the

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<v Speaker 2>body from location to location. You can't just stick them

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<v Speaker 2>in the cheapest uber that you get a death certificate,

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<v Speaker 2>filing notices, permits, stuff like that. If you're looking for

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<v Speaker 2>anything extravagant, like you want a nice casket, that's even

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<v Speaker 2>more money. You want to do viewings of your loved one,

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<v Speaker 2>that is going to increase the amount that the funeral

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<v Speaker 2>home charges you. If you want to do like some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of special celebration or clergy or like a nice

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<v Speaker 2>flower arrangement, that's way more money. Again, and flowers are

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<v Speaker 2>very expensive even for funerals. You can actually expect to

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<v Speaker 2>pay anywhere between like maybe three hundred and up to

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<v Speaker 2>like five thousand dollars on florals for a four depending

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<v Speaker 2>on obviously what you do and how you do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that in my family a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>have said if they've had like a death notice, they say,

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<v Speaker 2>in little of flowers, can you donate to a particular charity?

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<v Speaker 2>Which is nice, but you kind of like want it

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<v Speaker 2>to look nice as well. I don't know, there's that

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<v Speaker 2>mix of working you're.

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<v Speaker 4>Still celebrating somebody's life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So in most cases, the person who arranges the funeral,

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<v Speaker 2>whether that's like a friend or a family member. They

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<v Speaker 2>actually have to sign a contract directly with the funeral

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<v Speaker 2>director and then that person is the person that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of in charge of all the payments. Which is why

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<v Speaker 2>our listener might have written in and said, hey, it

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be all on me because she might have

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<v Speaker 2>taken on the brunt of that responsibility. Let's assume she's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe she's the only financially stable person in the family

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<v Speaker 2>that has access to funds. That can be really, really hard.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's important to know that there are actually a

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<v Speaker 2>few things here in Australia, and I've done some research

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<v Speaker 2>and understand that there are similar things in New Zealand

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<v Speaker 2>as well. So what I'd be looking up for anyone

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<v Speaker 2>in their circumstance is bereavement assistance. So here in a

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<v Speaker 2>stray bereavement assistance can either be like a non for

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<v Speaker 2>profit organization or it can be through the government and

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<v Speaker 2>they will help you with unexpected funeral costs. In New Zealand,

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<v Speaker 2>the average funeral cost is actually ten thousand dollars, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a lot of money, but they say only five

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<v Speaker 2>percent of New Zealanders have what's called a pre planned

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<v Speaker 2>funeral so you can actually do that yourself at any point.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very morbid concept, but I mean, if your

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<v Speaker 2>death is going to be expected, it's something that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people like doing because they feel like they've

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<v Speaker 2>got control over that circumstance and it can actually be

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<v Speaker 2>a really therapeutic process. It's not nice by any stretch

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<v Speaker 2>of the imagination, but at any point you can actually

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<v Speaker 2>go down to a funeral home and pre pay for

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<v Speaker 2>your funeral as well as like kind of plan it out,

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<v Speaker 2>like you could do everything. You could do the bare minimum,

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<v Speaker 2>which would be just paying for it, or you could

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<v Speaker 2>go all the way through to or I want to

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<v Speaker 2>look at the guest list. I want to have a

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<v Speaker 2>look at you know, what songs you're going to play.

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<v Speaker 2>What's my intro song, what's my outro song? Who's speaking?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you can plan literally everything if you wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>So in New Zealand there are also bereavement services you

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<v Speaker 2>can call upon if you find that you're not able

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<v Speaker 2>to afford it. So I would be doing, honestly, because

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<v Speaker 2>it changes based on either local, state or council regulations.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be looking up just bereavement services in your

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<v Speaker 2>area and seeing what type of support. There is further

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<v Speaker 2>to that. I probably, given you're the one in your

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<v Speaker 2>family who has been loaded with all of these costs,

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<v Speaker 2>I would obviously, I don't think it changes whether you

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<v Speaker 2>loved your dad or not. You said that in your

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<v Speaker 2>voice note You're like, oh, I loved him, but no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we know you loved him. But it's actually really unrealistic

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<v Speaker 2>and unreasonable to assume that you're the one individually that

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<v Speaker 2>would bear the brunt of all of this. I think

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<v Speaker 2>going back and going Okay, well, what does this look like,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe having a conversation with the people who are

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<v Speaker 2>closest who are trying to help you plan that funeral

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<v Speaker 2>and help you plan these services and the cremation and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and going, hey, like, should I just be keeping track

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<v Speaker 2>of this because there are a couple of things that

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<v Speaker 2>could happen. So obviously when a death happens, not everything

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<v Speaker 2>financial happens at exactly the same time. What you can

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<v Speaker 2>do is keep track of all of those costs and

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<v Speaker 2>then get repaid by your father's estate. And so that

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<v Speaker 2>would mean like if I spent you know, let's call

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<v Speaker 2>it just ten thousand dollars, because that's the average cost

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<v Speaker 2>of the New Zealand funeral. I pay ten thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>keep track of it, keep all your receipts and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And when your dad's estate is being you know, broken

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<v Speaker 2>down and given out, before that happens, you get repaid

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<v Speaker 2>that ten thousand dollars before anybody else gets like an inheritance.

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<v Speaker 2>So that could come from whatever savings your dad had,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever KEYWI say that he had, whatever kind of assets

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<v Speaker 2>he has, if you're planning on selling them or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>liquidating them to cash, or maybe you even just do

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<v Speaker 2>it in lieu of assets, maybe you get first choice.

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<v Speaker 2>This all all have to be done through your solicitor

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<v Speaker 2>or through you know, whoever is dealing with the family estate,

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<v Speaker 2>but it can be repaid. You will have to go

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<v Speaker 2>through a process for that to make sure it all

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<v Speaker 2>gets done properly, because you don't want some one coming

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<v Speaker 2>back later and being like, oh my god, well Beck

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<v Speaker 2>got ten thousand dollars more than me. Like, no, Beck

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<v Speaker 2>was repaid the money that she spent for that process

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<v Speaker 2>to happen, and that's actually really fair. You didn't get more, ye,

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<v Speaker 2>because you just got repaid the money that you spent

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<v Speaker 2>on that process. So essentially that can happen, but obviously

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<v Speaker 2>that can only happen if your dad does have an

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<v Speaker 2>estate to share with you, and in the case that

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<v Speaker 2>there is no estate that could pay it back. So

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<v Speaker 2>in a state is just a fancy word for saying

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that the person who passed away had, So that

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<v Speaker 2>could be money or houses or literally any type of asset.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's no money there to repay that, you could

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<v Speaker 2>just have a good conversation with your family and go, hey, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm keeping track of this. So either the estate can

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<v Speaker 2>pay it back and they might go, oh, well, just

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<v Speaker 2>there's no estate, and they might come back and go, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the family could help. Another way of doing this

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<v Speaker 2>is to announce when the funeral is happening that you

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<v Speaker 2>can actually contribute to the funeral costs. So you could say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in lieu of flowers, we'd love a donation

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<v Speaker 2>towards the funeral cost for XYZ, and that could go

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<v Speaker 2>towards paying the costs. So I think there's a few

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<v Speaker 2>things that you could do. The first thing I would

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<v Speaker 2>honestly do is look at bereavement services and make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that you know if there's anything local to you that

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<v Speaker 2>you could access.

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<v Speaker 4>We do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd also be having a chat to the funeral home

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<v Speaker 2>that you're working with, because if anyone's going to have

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<v Speaker 2>experience in what you can access and what you can't,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be them. And maybe they might even

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<v Speaker 2>have a level of sympathy that you didn't expect them

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<v Speaker 2>to have and them I go, wow, we didn't realize

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<v Speaker 2>you're in this circumstance. Let's see what we can do

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<v Speaker 2>to help.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think just talking about it and just seeing

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<v Speaker 6>how people can help you is probably the best thing

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<v Speaker 6>that you can do because obviously I don't know where

0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:37.600
<v Speaker 6>in New Zealand you are or how that works, but

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<v Speaker 6>I guess, long story short, I'm really sorry that that's

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<v Speaker 6>the circumstance and it does really suck. But unfortunately these

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<v Speaker 6>things happen, and we should be having these conversations about, well,

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<v Speaker 6>what does this mean?

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<v Speaker 2>How does this work? Like these things unfortunately happen every

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<v Speaker 2>single week in our community, and if you don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>you just don't know, and we need to have a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation about Okay, well these are the first steps. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Well make sure that you're in, you know, the best

0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.959
<v Speaker 2>possible position. This is why people should be doing their

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<v Speaker 2>wills and making sure that things are planned out because

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<v Speaker 2>I personally know that I wouldn't want my family members

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<v Speaker 2>having to pay for my funeral because I hadn't planned it,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I just I don't want to put my family

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<v Speaker 2>in that position and then not have it on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side. But most people don't think about this because

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<v Speaker 2>it's awkward to think about death, right, Yeah, no one

0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:25.600
<v Speaker 2>wants to have this conversation, and that's okay if you're

0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:28.119
<v Speaker 2>not ready. But I think it's it's something that we

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<v Speaker 2>do need to plan for. But then also we need

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about the flip side of that. Maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>do a whole episode on this, because I think that

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of unexpected costs in death that we

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<v Speaker 2>don't talk about. But then also what about all of

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<v Speaker 2>the people that are currently being taken for a ride

0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:48.280
<v Speaker 2>if they have funeral insurance? Like that to me makes

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:52.160
<v Speaker 2>absolutely no sense. What do you mean funeral insurance? So

0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.000
<v Speaker 2>the amount of times I have spoken to people and

0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:57.920
<v Speaker 2>they're like, oh, we found out years later while going

0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:01.040
<v Speaker 2>through mums stuff that she had funeral insurance, but we

0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:03.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't know about that because the insurance company when she

0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.200
<v Speaker 2>passed away didn't step up, didn't notify us. We had

0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:08.720
<v Speaker 2>no information, it wasn't in her will, and they're not

0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:10.760
<v Speaker 2>going to pay it out if it's already happened, right,

0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:13.879
<v Speaker 2>And usually if you're getting funeral insurance, it might be

0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:15.800
<v Speaker 2>because you're a little bit older and you want to

0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:18.320
<v Speaker 2>look after your family and you're talked into this great policy.

0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:21.640
<v Speaker 2>But from my perspective, there's only two things in life

0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.800
<v Speaker 2>that are certain taxes and death. Why are we ensuring

0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.840
<v Speaker 2>for something that's guaranteed to happen. So, Like, we talk

0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.440
<v Speaker 2>about insurance a lot on this podcast, and obviously I'm

0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:32.840
<v Speaker 2>the biggest fan of income protection. I think it's the

0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:36.399
<v Speaker 2>best insurance for me personally, right, I think everybody should

0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:38.159
<v Speaker 2>be looking into whether they can get it or not.

0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:42.600
<v Speaker 2>But when an insurer gives you an insurance policy, they're

0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:44.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of hedging their bets. They're like, all right, beck,

0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 2>you got any pre existing conditions. You'll be like no,

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:48.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm fit and healthy. I'm great, And then they go, yeah,

0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.440
<v Speaker 2>all right, well we'll ensure you for X amount per month.

0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.600
<v Speaker 2>They're hedging their bets that nothing's going to happen to you,

0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:57.600
<v Speaker 2>because financially they're going to end up in the best

0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:00.920
<v Speaker 2>possible financial position if nothing happens to be and then

0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:03.040
<v Speaker 2>they might go, oh, yess, have you had anything happened

0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:05.320
<v Speaker 2>to you? And you might say, yeah, actually I rolled

0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:07.960
<v Speaker 2>my ankle a heap of times at netball, and that's compromise,

0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:09.880
<v Speaker 2>and they go, oh, jess, we're not going to cover

0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:12.600
<v Speaker 2>your ankle. We're going to exclude that because we don't

0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.040
<v Speaker 2>want the possibility of us having to pay you out

0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:20.119
<v Speaker 2>to increase death is guaranteed. Why are we in this

0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:24.160
<v Speaker 2>position where we are literally ensuring it in a way

0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:27.560
<v Speaker 2>that it gets paid out as an insurance premium.

0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:29.200
<v Speaker 5>Right, just like put money aside for the funeral.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, exactly. I feel like so many people get

0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:33.879
<v Speaker 2>taken for a ride because they're trying to do the

0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:36.240
<v Speaker 2>right thing and they get this beautiful policy and you know,

0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:38.880
<v Speaker 2>covers up to fifteen thousand dollars. That makes them feel

0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:42.800
<v Speaker 2>really good. But what the insurance policy is betting on

0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:44.760
<v Speaker 2>this is really morbid. Is it's going to take you

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:47.439
<v Speaker 2>a really long time to die. That's what they're betting on.

0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:49.480
<v Speaker 2>They are betting on the fact that all right, Beck,

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:51.880
<v Speaker 2>do you want to organize this funeral insurance? Okay, well

0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:54.760
<v Speaker 2>it's you know x amount per month. They're hoping that

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:59.719
<v Speaker 2>you pay more in premiums before you die than what

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:03.400
<v Speaker 2>that actually dying exactly right. So I think it's something

0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:05.159
<v Speaker 2>that we could all think about, and it's something that

0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:08.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, emergency funds as you get older could be

0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:10.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, allocated towards or making sure that you have

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 2>cash aside. But there's a lot I have to say

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:17.000
<v Speaker 2>on the death industry. You could say and how during

0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:19.960
<v Speaker 2>times that people are most vulnerable. Because our listener is

0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 2>vulnerable right now, right like she needs someone to grab

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:24.439
<v Speaker 2>her by the hand and be like, I've got you

0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:26.760
<v Speaker 2>and I have your best interests at heart. But there

0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:28.440
<v Speaker 2>are a lot of people out there that would take

0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:30.400
<v Speaker 2>your hand and go, I've got your best interests at heart,

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:34.119
<v Speaker 2>and they really don't. So it's so sad, a terrible

0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:37.120
<v Speaker 2>conversation to have, but it's one that genuinely as a community,

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:39.639
<v Speaker 2>we need to have these conversations more often because you

0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:41.840
<v Speaker 2>could find yourself in a pickle. But there are lots

0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:43.919
<v Speaker 2>of things, As I said, there are a few different

0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 2>bereavement services out there. Talk to your funeral home, talk

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 2>to your family, and actually just have an open, honest

0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:51.439
<v Speaker 2>monding conversation be like, this is putting a lot of

0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 2>financial pressure on me. Maybe they don't even know.

0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 4>Well, I didn't know, you wouldn't know.

0:23:57.160 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 5>Who know if you've never.

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Been through it. I'm so glad that you've never been

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 2>through it. You've never been through it, and then you're

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:04.400
<v Speaker 2>going through it like how you meant to know? Right?

0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:07.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, exactly. I think it's really solid advice. I really

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 6>do hope that she takes something out of that, and

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:13.320
<v Speaker 6>I really am sorry for your circumstances.

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:15.480
<v Speaker 4>We're sending you lots of love, lots of love.

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 2>To anyone going through circumstances like that. At the moment,

0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 2>it's just really trashy. It's not a good place to be.

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 2>All right, Let's bring the mood up though, because that

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 2>was a really good segment. But we have to change

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:31.360
<v Speaker 2>tunes completely because our dms got really lit up this

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 2>week because a lot of people have a lot of

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 2>things to say. So our community dilemma this week went

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:40.920
<v Speaker 2>like this, High Team, I'm battling extreme levels of jealousy

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 2>that I haven't ever felt before. I'm really happy for

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:47.119
<v Speaker 2>my housemate who's climbing the career ladder quite rapidly, which

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 2>she absolutely deserves. She's gotten a twenty thousand dollars pay rise,

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 2>and I'm so happy for her, but I can't help

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:57.199
<v Speaker 2>but feel so jealous. I'm still studying and I make

0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 2>around thirty seven thousand dollars a year. She is now

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:03.680
<v Speaker 2>on a really good six figure salary, and I can't

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 2>help but feel annoyed when she texts me saying it's

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 2>my turn to buy toilet paper, et cetera, because she

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 2>just makes so much more money than me, and I

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 2>just think, why can't she help me out and buy it.

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:18.879
<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm just wondering does equity apply in friendships

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:24.160
<v Speaker 2>like it does in relationships? We did some polling, didn't we?

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 2>We did do some polling. So the first pole question

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 2>we asked was what's your current living situation? Fifteen percent

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:32.440
<v Speaker 2>of you lucky ducks said you lived on your own.

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:35.439
<v Speaker 6>Jealous, fourteen percent of you said that you lived in

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 6>a sharehouse. Sixty one percent of you you live with partners,

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 6>and ten percent of you are other, which I assume maybe,

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 6>like you know, random situations, live with parents.

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:46.199
<v Speaker 4>Whatever.

0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 2>The next question we asked you, guys, was if you

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:50.919
<v Speaker 2>live with a partner, does one of you earn a

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 2>lot more than the other, and forty three percent of

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 2>you said yes, my partner earns more than me. Thirty

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 2>percent of you said yes, I earned more than my partner,

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:03.880
<v Speaker 2>and twenty seven percent said we're actually pretty even tbh.

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:06.199
<v Speaker 2>The next question we asked was, if you live in

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 2>a share house, do you have a housemate that makes

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 2>a lot more money than you? Thirty one percent of

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 2>you said yes, my housemate makes a lot more, thirty

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 2>three percent said I'm the housemate that makes a lot more,

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 2>thirty six percent said we are all on pretty even incomes.

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 4>That's pretty even split over response, I's pretty sure.

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was like nice, little thirds.

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 8>I liked.

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:30.400
<v Speaker 2>That made my little math's brain very happy. But guys,

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:34.159
<v Speaker 2>before we go to the community spicy responses, what are

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts?

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 4>I just I'm trying to be nice. I just don't

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 4>know why. I understand the jealousy absolutely, Like I can

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 4>see how being in close proximity to someone that you

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 4>perceive to be doing better than you absolutely can raise

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 4>those feelings, and that's very normal. I think the thing

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 4>to consider here is, though you're not that person's responsibility,

0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 4>and as much as your housemates and your friends, and yes,

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:03.119
<v Speaker 4>we want to look out for our friends. Ultimately, she

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:05.199
<v Speaker 4>is in that place because of the choices that she

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 4>has made, and she's not a millionaire. Like if you've

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 4>got if you've got so much money that spending money

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:12.359
<v Speaker 4>on things doesn't matter to you, you're probably not living

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 4>with a housemate. So even though if you are, you're

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 4>probably living some kind of sex in the city lifestyle

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:19.919
<v Speaker 4>that we want to know about it. Yeah, so I

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:23.360
<v Speaker 4>feel like, yes, potentially she's earning six figures, but does

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 4>she have Hex's debt, does she have other debt? Is

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 4>she saving for something that means her budget is really strict?

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 4>I just I don't think it is reasonable to make

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:35.679
<v Speaker 4>yourself somebody else's financial response. And yes, the cost of

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 4>toilet paper is arguably negligible, but if you're using it equally,

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 4>in my opinion, it should be split equally. The only

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 4>time that is different is if you're with a partner,

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 4>and in that situation, it's more about.

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Parker's hot Is that what you mean?

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.720
<v Speaker 4>It's more about joint finance's joint goals and the money

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 4>is pulled and shared, Whereas if you're living with a housemte,

0:27:56.760 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 4>you're operating I'm assuming independently financial and as human beings. Yeah,

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 4>that's where I feel like the big difference is, Yeah,

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 4>I can't fathom going you earn more than me and

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:10.959
<v Speaker 4>therefore you need to buy me things. Yeah, I do

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 4>agree with that, even though I'm kind of oversimplifying it.

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Do you know, No, Man, that's kind of it. Why

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 2>can't you help me out? And like that's me reading

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.159
<v Speaker 2>into the tone of the message, I suppose, and I

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 2>really shouldn't do that. But the idea that you think

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 2>she owes you toilet paper, because you use that as

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 2>an example, like, I've got my opinions and I'm actually

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna wait until Beck's there. But the idea that she

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.479
<v Speaker 2>owes you that makes you a blood boil.

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think that's the thing. But it's I totally

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 5>get it as well, Jess.

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 6>Like, as you said, I know that feeling of feeling

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 6>so like, how are you there in your life? Yeah,

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 6>I'm here, and you just feel really inadequate and really

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 6>really crappy. So I completely that feeling that on its

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 6>own totally fine. If you're in a sharehouse and like,

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 6>let's say this person, you know they made it twenty

0:28:57.160 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 6>thousand dollars pay rise and now they're expected to up there.

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 5>I suppose like what.

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 6>They're contributing to the house, and like it's like the

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 6>expenses have gone up and then their pay's gone up,

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 6>and like they're kind of just breaking even, you know

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 6>what I mean. I know that buying toilet paper isn't

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 6>gonna it's they're not gonna be breaking even there. But

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 6>like if if you're expecting that of someone who's made

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 6>a twenty k pay rise to then chip in way

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 6>more for the house and chip in way more for

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 6>like going out for drinks with mates and chipping in,

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 6>Like where does where do.

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 5>You draw the line?

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 6>He's just saying, like, oh, maybe they're like hounding me

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 6>for you know, to buy toilet roll and things like that.

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 6>I get that that can be annoying, But where do

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 6>you draw the line if they if you're saying they

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 6>need to buy the they should buy the toilet roll

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 6>if they if we're lacking, they should buy this. If

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 6>we're lacking, Like what are you expecting from them? You know,

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 6>they've just they've done this really cool thing. They've got

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 6>a huge pay rise, you know, just celebrate that and

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 6>everything else should be exactly the same. Just split everything,

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 6>Just split everything.

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 4>You're in a share house, yeah you share, that's it,

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 4>Jump on beam it and just split everything.

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't agree more. I feel like you guys that Like,

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to basically reiterate everything that you said.

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 2>The fact that you know about your housemate's salary increase, though,

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 2>that's a privilege, not every you don't deserve to know

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 2>about her financial circumstances. She was probably so excited to

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 2>share that with you and was like, oh my gosh,

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 2>v I got this pay rise and I'm so excited

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 2>about it. That didn't mean that she was telling you

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 2>so she could afford to pay for more things for you.

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 2>She's you know, excited about her journey. And you know

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 2>we were saying before that, oh she did this really

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 2>good thing. That doesn't mean you're not doing really good things.

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 2>It just means you're on different journeys. Like maybe your

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 2>time hasn't come to have that income yet because you're

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 2>still at UNI. And I remember when I was at UNI.

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy. I was at UNI. I was earning a

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 2>fair bit because I was working so many hours. It's

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 2>just like a retail job, but for a Uni student.

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't like super you know, living on rice and

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 2>noodles all the time. I had enough money to buy,

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, the nicer groceries. But I lived with a

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 2>housemate who was working full time, and at no point

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 2>did I ever expect them to contribute more. Like it

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 2>was just not the situation. It's just you pay for

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 2>your stuff. I'll pay for my stuff. We're housemates, and

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess it comes down to I've been asked similar

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 2>questions historically, and I do not believe that you should

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 2>have any level of financial dependency on someone that you're

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 2>not building a financial future with. Like if Jess moved

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 2>in with me, I would expect her to pay the

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 2>rent that we agreed to contribute equally to the household bills,

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 2>and if the household chores and whatever else is going on,

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 2>whether I earned more or she earned more, I don't

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 2>only think it matters because we entered into this agreement

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 2>when Jess moved in with me. I'm not paying more

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.719
<v Speaker 2>of Jess's stuff, and vice versa. Just isn't paying more

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 2>of my stuff because we don't have shared big financial

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 2>life goals. No, I'm not saving for a home with Jess.

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm not, you know, saving my emergency fund for Jess.

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing those things. I'm doing that for me.

0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 2>And then I get in a relationship with Steve, that

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 2>dynamic can change because now Steve and I are on

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the same life path just and I aren't. What happens

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 2>if I, you know, like, let's slip it, Let's flip it,

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 2>and I'm I'm really happy to pay for Jess. Let's

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 2>pretend that I'm the most generous person in the entire

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 2>world and just moves in with me, and I go, oh, Jess,

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:17.719
<v Speaker 2>you don't know and as much as me, So I'm

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 2>going to pay for everything. Is that creating a financially

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 2>independent woman who needs no man don't have.

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 4>A power imbalance as well?

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 2>There's a massive power imbalance to that, Like, I'm I

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 2>don't want to pay for your stuff because above and

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 2>beyond the fact that it's not my responsibility, I'm not

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 2>your parents, you're not in minor. That creates a power balance.

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 2>What are you going to ever move out?

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 4>Jess?

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:44.479
<v Speaker 2>You've probably got it too good. I just I feel

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 2>like the toilet paper really grinds my gears as well,

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 2>because that's an equal use basic necessity of a household, right,

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 2>like you should be paying for that. But that's where

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I draw the line, Like sharing expenses fine, but if

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 2>you're more wealthy, housemate comes home and says, oh, Yess,

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I want to get Uber eats Friday night. Had the

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 2>biggest week at work and you know, I can't really

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 2>afford it, and they still really want to do it.

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 2>I think that's their expense. I don't mean that, oh,

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't be contributing to it, but if they want

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 2>to go do an activity and I go, no, Jess,

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 2>I really want to do it with you. I think

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 2>that your housemates should be paying for that experience if

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 2>it's not in your budget and you've been clear about

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 2>what that looks like and how that works, because that's

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 2>not fair, Like that's not fair to then be like, oh,

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I want Jess to match my lifestyle. Ye when she

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have that income to support that lifestyle. I think

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 2>then you know, maybe go hang out with your friends

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 2>who can afford ubreats if you want to split it equally.

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I love hanging out with somebody who

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 2>isn't on the stay. I will pay for that experience,

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 2>And I think that that can extend to housemates, like

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 2>if they were arguing that they need the most expensive

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 2>toilet paper.

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm just gonna say that's the upgrading of product day.

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 4>It's like if you're like, I just want home brand

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 4>one ply, I don't care sandpaper, but toilet paper. It's

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 4>in my budget and that's fine, and their friends like

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 4>I want the gold rimmed, yeah, hand woven toilet paper,

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:08.880
<v Speaker 4>then you're okay, that's a different story.

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. Like I just I'm making the assumption that

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 2>it's just like base level, like we're just buying the

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 2>stuff that you know, both of you would normally buy anyway,

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:20.280
<v Speaker 2>It's not yeah, the upgrade. We're not going from having

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, a normal dinner to oh well, actually my

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:26.800
<v Speaker 2>housemate keeps putting salmon philets on the weekly grocery budget

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 2>and I have to split that. Like, to me, that's

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 2>a different story if they were expecting you to match

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:32.839
<v Speaker 2>their lifestyle.

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 4>Also she's texting you to say it's your turn for

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 4>toilet paper. I'm just setting carrying the mental load a

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 4>little bit there too, because like I've been in that

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 4>situation in a housemate setting where one person is always

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 4>the one who notices that something's missing or notices that

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:49.319
<v Speaker 4>you're about to run out, and is therefore then the

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 4>person who starts carrying the load, because they're always the

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 4>one that.

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Goes, oh yeah, if she's texting you asking you to

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>do it and you have yeah, you're right. I feel

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 2>like the DM didn't expect us to have this response

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 2>when what about your house mate? Yeah? But yeah, do

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 2>you know what? I used to be the housemate that

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 2>would text people be like, hey, it's your turn to X.

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Also, as somebody who sometimes has earned more than some

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 2>of my friends, I am so happy to be generous.

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I actually love it. I really love being able to

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 2>be like, oh no, Beck, I'll grab a coffee or

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, oh Jess, I'll do this, Like that's fine.

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Second you expect it, I'll cut you off.

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 2>The second anybody's like, oh, well we can pay, I

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 2>do not think so. Yeah, that is not how this

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 2>relationship works.

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 5>That's so true.

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Does that make sense? And I feel like that's a

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 2>really common like if you're doing that to your housemate,

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 2>your housemate has picked up on that vibe. If I

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 2>was your housemate, I'd be like, no, got off?

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 6>So what did everyone else say to that we're being

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 6>really gentlest.

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 2>So someone DMed us. I'm not even reading a lot

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 2>of the responses that came through in our like our

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 2>question box, because it's too short. Everybody actually just sent

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 2>us along with the DM. So sit down. Oh hell no,

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 2>she is financially responsible for her friends. Everyone has choices,

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 2>and she chose to study in e minimal money wid Oh, like,

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 2>everyone does have choices, Like, of course you chose to study.

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Of course, the choice to study means compromising other areas

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 2>of your life. But I feel like it's just everyone's

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 2>on a different journey and that's okay. I mean that

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 2>was a aggressive response. That's fine. Someone else said, when

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 2>you moved in with your housemate, you agreed to split

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:42.800
<v Speaker 2>expenses equally. If you don't have shared finances or financial goals,

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 2>it needs to stay equal. Your housemates shouldn't have to

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.839
<v Speaker 2>carry more of a load because they have more resources.

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 2>It would be nice of them if they did, but

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 2>they may be working hard towards a goal where every

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 2>single saint counts. My husband can't work right now, and

0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I pay for everything because we are a team and

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 2>have entirely shared finances. But if he was my roommate,

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be paying his way. I know they may

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:09.279
<v Speaker 2>seem like small things, but if that's what you'd agreed on,

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 2>you need to respect them and their finances. I like

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 2>the comment where she said, I'm paying for my husband

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>for everything if he was my housemate.

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 4>Hell no, that's like a clear in my mind, there

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 4>is a clear delineation between you working towards something with

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 4>someone and you just kind of coexisting in the same space,

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 4>and housemates are coexisting doing their best, but on their

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 4>own path, and therefore you should be responsible for your

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 4>and shit. Yeah. Yeah.

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Another person said in a sharehouse, split everything evenly and

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 2>make a toilet paper roster. I feel like this is

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 2>getting petty, like a.

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 6>Star chart if they're pap roster like I have lived

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:50.399
<v Speaker 6>in a house with a star chart before.

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:54.439
<v Speaker 2>No, you have not, have you? Yes, a star chart?

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:57.239
<v Speaker 4>I implemented, that's really cute.

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 2>How did you get cute? You get too regressive as hell, Jesse,

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Why did we have star charts?

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.960
<v Speaker 4>There were two housemates who were doing it all, carrying

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 4>the load, and there was one housemate who was just

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 4>not at it with the naughty kid. Yeah, exactly, And

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 4>it's when there are three girls sharing a bathroom. You

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 4>know what, Sometimes you just got to find a way

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:18.320
<v Speaker 4>to equalize it, because.

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:18.840
<v Speaker 5>It's that's fair.

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 2>What do you get if you filled up your star chart?

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 4>Ah, when it wasn't that fun of a star chart.

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 4>It was it if you get stars, it's that I

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 4>did my chores this week.

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 5>That's so cute.

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:29.760
<v Speaker 4>That's very embarrassing.

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.399
<v Speaker 2>Hot girlshit, hot girl shit, all right, so this one

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 2>instead in a sharehouse, split everything evenly and make a

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:37.839
<v Speaker 2>toilet paper roster. It helps people feel like they're not

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 2>the only one buying, and you just get into a

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 2>mechanical routine. It's not personal and not a repeated internal battle.

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Any super outstanding extras that only one person uses. So

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 2>for example, my housemate has a car, so she gets

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:54.320
<v Speaker 2>car space, they can pay extra. If it's only one slight,

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:57.399
<v Speaker 2>one person uses air con slightly more than the other,

0:38:57.719 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 2>then that's just life, and it's fair to split it

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 2>even at the end of the day. That's what you

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 2>agreed to, regardless of incomes or whether someone is profiting

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:07.840
<v Speaker 2>slash playing less or more because they're subleasing.

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:09.919
<v Speaker 4>That's a very thorough covers it all.

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:10.439
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 2>Someone then said I feel like the way or the

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:18.360
<v Speaker 2>tone of some of these messages is just not vibing

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:21.799
<v Speaker 2>with me, Like I feel like I'm being personally attacked. Yeah,

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 2>even though I'm not.

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 5>Kind of scary.

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 4>We've all had a shit housemate and it's.

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So this one said your choices have left

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:34.319
<v Speaker 2>you with a lower income. That's not her responsibility to

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 2>pay for you. I say this because I have been

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.720
<v Speaker 2>both the friends in this situation. She probably has goals

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 2>and she shouldn't have to compromise them because you're a

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 2>UNI student who just earns less. I'm saying this as

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm now a full time UNI student who actually earns

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:50.360
<v Speaker 2>seventy thousand dollars a year, which in itself is a

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 2>very privileged position to be. I like that you've disclaimed

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 2>it that thank you, But I wouldn't expect my friends

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 2>to be buying things for me just because they earn more,

0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 2>and being a UNI student working full time, it's really hard.

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 2>I want to use any excess I have in my

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 2>income to get a head in life and on myself,

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 2>which I think is very fair.

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 4>Slong and short of it is, sorry to tell you this,

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:14.479
<v Speaker 4>but no, she's not in a favor doile of favor.

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there were lots of other messages that said, this

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 2>is gross, this is weird, this really irks me, And

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I think I think it does because, as you said, yes,

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 2>we've all had a shitty housemate. Remember the time I

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:29.240
<v Speaker 2>told you about my housemate who decided to become vegan

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 2>one weekend and throughout all of the food in my

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 2>freeze us. Yeah, like we've all been there, right. She

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:37.240
<v Speaker 2>also used to borrow my underwear, but that's a different

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 2>story for a different very bad But I do think

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 2>that that conversation, it kind of makes sense that it

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 2>came up in our community because it's kind of like, oh,

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 2>I can see why, you know, if you're in a

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 2>position where you're like, oh, I'm just finding it really

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 2>hard to make ends meat and she's not, Like I

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 2>can see why that's come up because we always have

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 2>the conversation about equity versus equality in relationships, and I

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 2>do believe that those things need to be taken into consideration.

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't believe that if your partner earns your

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 2>your life partner earns more money than you, that it

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:09.839
<v Speaker 2>should be split fifty to fifty. I just don't think

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 2>that that is an equitable way of creating I guess

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 2>independence and an equitable relationship. I do think that things

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 2>should be split a little bit differently, but I do

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 2>not believe that that should happen in a housemate situation,

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Like you've got no idea. Also, you're only making that

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 2>assumption because you know what she earns. Yeah, that circumstance

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 2>would not be different if she'd never disclosed what she

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:32.840
<v Speaker 2>was earning and you just made an assumption she was

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 2>also on thirty seven thousand dollars because she was in

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 2>a grab position, right, that wouldn't have come up. And

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 2>money is private. Money is often really secret. Like, how

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:44.479
<v Speaker 2>do you know that your other housemate that is also

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<v Speaker 2>UNI with you and you haven't spoken to her? You

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<v Speaker 2>just assume she has not as much money as you.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you know she doesn't have a trust fund? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's actually worth millions. She just hasn't said anything

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<v Speaker 2>because she's managing her money. Well, maybe she's actually not

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<v Speaker 2>your business exactly. Maybe she's Beyonce and you just don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But like money and other people's money is none of

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<v Speaker 2>your business unless they've chosen to share with you, and

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<v Speaker 2>if they have shared that with you. It is a

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<v Speaker 2>privilege that you shouldn't be abusing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, good on you for thinking critically about finances, but

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<v Speaker 4>on this one it is a no from us.

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<v Speaker 5>If we could get about Bao right here, that would

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<v Speaker 5>be great.

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<v Speaker 4>Nah. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the one we did.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yes, self is nice.

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<v Speaker 6>Sorry about so star, Thank you so much writing. And

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<v Speaker 6>we really see where you're coming from. And I hope

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<v Speaker 6>that we weren't too harsh.

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<v Speaker 2>We were really harsh.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry. Let's go all right, have a beautiful weekend. Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>We will see you on Monday for a money diary.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you, Bye bye. Did buy shared on? She's

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<v Speaker 2>on the Money is generally nature and does not consider

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<v Speaker 2>your individual circumstances. She's on the Money exists purely for

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<v Speaker 2>educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make

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<v Speaker 2>an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to

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<v Speaker 2>buy a financial product.

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<v Speaker 7>Read the PDS TMD and obtain appropriate financial.

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<v Speaker 2>Advice tailored towards your needs.

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