1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 2: Interesting story yesterday on Channel nine. So Australia's youngest MP. 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Her name is Georgie Pissel. She's in a Animal just 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: using the Animal Justice Party. She's thirty one years old. 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: And there was a story in Victoria about duck hunting, 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: so she was featured on the news. She put out 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: a post because what happens is there's an image that 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: goes with the story. If the newsreader is talking, there'll 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: be an image beside the story with maybe just a 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: photograph of the person involved. So there's a picture of 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 2: her with some pictures with someone with a gun hunting 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: some ducks behind her. And she put out a social 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 2: post yesterday saying I endured a lot yesterday, but having 14 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: my body an outfit photoshop by a media outlet was 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: not on my bingo card. Note the enlarged boobs and 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: outfit to be made more revealing. Can't imagine this happening 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: to a male MP. What gives? And so she's put 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: up the original image of her photograph. Plus what this technology, 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 2: the photoshopping has done, and what it has done is 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: it's made her breast look larger. They've enhanced the shadow 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: underneath the breast, and they've turned what is a regular 22 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: kind of strapless dress into a crop top and a skirt, 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: a subtle crop top, though they've added a stomach. They 24 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: made it look like she's wearing a crop top. 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course yes, but why do it? Why do 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: it at all? And Channel nine? 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 2: She called out Channel nine on this. This is director 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: of News in Melbourne who said in a statement, I'd 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: like to apologize for a graphic error. But they say 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: the graphics department sourced an online image of her to 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: use in our story on duck hunting, as is common practice, 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: the image was resized to fit our specs. During that process, 33 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: the automation by photoshop created an image that wasn't consistent 34 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: with the original. This doesn't mean our normal standards. We 35 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: apologize from what I hear a number of people who 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: work with this photoshop technol, including Jenna, a digital guru 37 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: here journal technology. This stuff doesn't happen on its own, 38 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 2: particularly for the news. You don't just resize an image 39 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: and let it do it. This has been humanly altered. 40 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: And her point is why why have you done this 41 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: to a female politician, the youngest one in our parliament, 42 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: who has to fight for authority and to be taken 43 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: seriously anyway. And another reason why this image, why this 44 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: issue is so close to her heart, is she's had 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: to fight to be taken seriously because when she was 46 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: nineteen years old, a photo of her was leaked as 47 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: where she worked as a stripper and as a topless 48 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: waitress to make ends meet at university. She also worked 49 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: in a call center whatever. So she, as she says here, 50 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: she was fearful at that time that her dream of 51 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: being a lawyer or a politician would disappear, and as 52 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: she said, she had to own it. She stood up 53 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: in Parliament and said, here's how I felt when those 54 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: images were leaked. She said, we all have a past 55 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: and a digital footprint, and for younger politicians it's more 56 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: traceable than for the average politician. So she said, after 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: I shared my story, I felt the weight was lifted 58 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: from my shoulders. So ever since then, she's had to 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: work to gain the self confidence and the respect of 60 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: others for her to be our youngest MP and to 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: have this image. But as you say, it's subtle, it's subtle, 62 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: but it's everything. Why all to her image to make 63 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: her bosoms look bigger, and to make her dress more sexualized. 64 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: Why do it? 65 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: We're talking about this this morning when I came into work, 66 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: and it's the classic guy girl di vibe, because the 67 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: girls here were all talking about it, and men would 68 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: have no problem with that. If I had a picture 69 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: of me and I was the duck hunting guy or 70 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: the anti duck hunting guy because I couldn't shoot a 71 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: little ducky, you. 72 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: Know, I'd be go, oh, you make me look better. 73 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't look like a big fat say get 74 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: rid of my gart And you know, look at Trump. 75 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: Trump loves all these. 76 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: He had a photo postal he had six fingers praying 77 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: at a church. 78 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: You didn't care. 79 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: Maybe you're right, But for young women, for all women 80 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: to be taken seriously in parliament, for young women to 81 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: be taken seriously in parliament, for a woman like Georgie 82 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: who's overcome a lot of a lot of stuff to 83 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: be taken seriously, this is a big deal. 84 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: But maybe they were just making it more visually appealing. Well, well, 85 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: what I put her in a bikini? 86 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: At what point do you stop? Why have to make 87 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 2: her more visually appealing? This is the point she's saying, 88 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: why do you have to make me look more visually appealing? 89 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: As I said, Channel nine have apologized and said it 90 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: was our technology was automated. Yeah right, but with you know, 91 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: a very interesting debate. 92 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: To be having, maybe get those graphics that they have 93 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: on sbs just boom like you know, that's what we're 94 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: going to. 95 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: Go back to. 96 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: Is there a serious conversation we can have, You're not. 97 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: Let's get their PCO graphics so they have no clothes on. 98 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: What solution sps have clothes on. I'm talking about their graphics. 99 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: They don't have the technology the channel see what you mean, 100 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 3: you know, just the basic graphic. 101 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: TV is a visual medium after all. 102 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but have a picture of her, just put her 103 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: picture up. 104 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: Maybe the digital guy I have a word to him, 105 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: say listen. Or the digital girl could be a digital girl. 106 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: You never know. 107 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: These are the times that we live. 108 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: Why has this decision been made? Though interesting